It’s actually pretty funny how that shot managed to surprisingly ricochet right off the tank like it did in the movie. We all know that shell had no business doing that, but it’s almost as if dumb luck really does exist 😂

@ReichWarLord

10 ай бұрын

It actually shot instead of AP ,it is recognizable by the way the shell reacted w/ the armor

That 1st part though was basically an entire recreation unintentionally XD Beautiful I gotta say.

@wonghy1115

Жыл бұрын

It was entirely intentional lmfao shot for shot

@humanhuman5024

Жыл бұрын

@@wonghy1115except the part where the tiger 2 somehow non penned the Sherman 76

@wonghy1115

Жыл бұрын

@@humanhuman5024 didn't that happen i nthe film? in that same spot or something

@humanhuman5024

Жыл бұрын

@@wonghy1115 it was not supposed to happen in game though

@wonghy1115

Жыл бұрын

@@humanhuman5024 mhm

5:56 Muffin: How?! Warthunder: Magic

@drip.th.7618

Жыл бұрын

I​ think he ues HEAT​ shell.

The director knew about how the tiger 1 shouldve shot the leading tank then the last in the collumn but said in that "If he had killed the leading tank that brad pitt was in, roll credits"

@FM-tw9sb

Жыл бұрын

I always think that they could have simply put him in another place, like even in reality I wouldn't have put the best sherman to lead the group. But maybe there is a reason.

@thejason1054

Жыл бұрын

@@FM-tw9sb well he wasnt in the front at first, the lead sherman was destroyed by a panzerfaust and then Fury had to take the lead. I dont remember but im also sure that War Daddy was in command of that tank collumn after the panzerfaust incident

@Tripintrios

Ай бұрын

@@thejason1054it was a M18 at the lead not a sherman

@thejason1054

Ай бұрын

@@Tripintrios Are you fucking high?

@thejason1054

Ай бұрын

​@@Tripintrios are you fucking high

I love how in the movie the Tiger hitting the side of the Sherman should have killed it, and in the game it did the same thing lmao.

@Gutenburg100

Жыл бұрын

Sometimes luck is just on your side lol.

@halodude4481

Жыл бұрын

@@Gutenburg100in the case it’s literally on his “side”

Awesome video. May I suggest that for future videos, a scoreboard of how many tanks/airplanes remaining is placed in a corner of the screen, to keep track easier of how many are left. Thanks ^^

@VunderGuy

Жыл бұрын

I second this motion.

@toucanman1372

Жыл бұрын

This

@johntuffy5721

4 ай бұрын

ditto

Beautiful editing muffin, was a very fun event to partake in. Thanks for the little shout out also :)

@west_adv

Жыл бұрын

Who has won the final round, shermans or tigers?

The Chieftan actually commented on this scene. His explanation was that German doctrine at the time was to take action over inaction. Seeing as the Tiger had its position covered with smoke and could not longer see, it had to move to continue engaging. He also stated that if anyone made poor decisions it was the Sherman's for not splitting up and attempting to engage on multiple fronts from the very beginning. Side note, it was Tiger 1 in Fury, not a King Tiger(Tiger 2)

@ThunderWithMuffin

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment and interesting to know. Also the purpose of this vid was to demonstrate what would happen if Fury faced a king Tiger instead of a Tiger like the scene to see if the outcome would have been any different

@Swagmaster07

Жыл бұрын

Man did u even read the video title?

@pugs-r-awsome

Жыл бұрын

@@Swagmaster07 honestly tho like wtf dude read the video title? And awesome video thunder with muffin definitely gonna sub

@whispofwords2590

Жыл бұрын

truth be told the shermans or really any tank are always going to be at a disadvantage caught out in a field like that.

@ZombieSlayer-dj3wb

10 ай бұрын

And they were to hit the lead tank first then the rear one , trapping them and once 76s and fireflys were main targets

You should recreate Fury, but with vehicles of different countries, like how would a couple T-34s with 76s and one 85 do or how’d a couple Cromwells do, etc

Nice editing. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING DISCORD VOICES

This was such a fun video to record, minus delays lol. I can’t WAIT for the SPAA. Great vid muffin!

Mr. Muffin. Idk how you do it, but these videos are amazing! When ever I have a bad day at WarThunder. Seeing these in the feed remind that the game can be fun. Keep up the amazing work, love the new setup of these battle videos!

omg, really nice ! Good job !

Awesome. Now do this again but replace the tiger 2 with an IS-7.

Awesome video. Very happy i was able to see myself😁😁😁

Could you do the third round again, yet with all the Shermans having to parade around the map only on roads, with the tigers waiting to ambush them at their own leisure?

@angkaiyangethan8486

Жыл бұрын

urban maps will help increase the chances of the shermans because the germans are forced to brawl in close combat where the sherman cannons can be effective, if it was a field map, it would be a point and click adventure for the german tigers

@leotruuut245

Жыл бұрын

That would be fun!

@jakedavids9017

Жыл бұрын

It'd be cool too if it were multiple Sherman platoons entering a map with Tigers assigned to ambush them as they'd run along. Having simultaneous confrontations and probably multiple engagements throughout would produce a variety of outcomes.

@dailyamountofstupidness979

Жыл бұрын

The Germans will absolutely dominate because they have impenetrable frontal armour on hull and turret while Sherman’s are easy to pen and have no cover

@ARealItalian

3 ай бұрын

It would be a massacre

This looks awesome my guy! Now let's see what happens if they faced against a maus (Troll)

I just have found your channel and its bloody awesome. I tried searching tips about warthunder anywhere and there isn't good videos that are formal. Can you make a tutorial about this game? I'm just got on Tiger but Idk any technical details. Anyway i'm subbing, too good videos HAHA.

@ThunderWithMuffin

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and to be honest I don’t do a lot of tutorials but my second channel of war thunder best replays has gameplay from the war thunder community that helped me a lot when watching what other good players do if that helps:)

@TheGrace020

Жыл бұрын

Lots of good warthunder channels out there that do that my friend

This was a cool video, I love playing the Sherman at that BR just cause it’s so satisfying to kill these Titian’s, I found out tho the the Tiger 2 H is literally impregnable from the front, even with HVAP round. The only exception ain’t very good and it’s the machine gunners port🤣

a good idea that i think of for one of your video, would be to do a big caliber vs small caliber challenge

Great video! Modern AA against ww2 planes might also be cool?

@ThunderWithMuffin

Жыл бұрын

Yep and already in the works being made:)

@xapocotacox

Жыл бұрын

This is a great idea lmao

This is awesome

Sherman had gyro stabilizers which hold the gun stable up to 5-10 mph i believe

@zjanez2868

Жыл бұрын

it only really helped to be able to shoot first after stopping 16 kph isnt much

@Arthur__Morgan_

Жыл бұрын

@@zjanez2868 it was a lot more at that time

@Beuwen_The_Dragon

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, gyro stabilizers were such new state of the art technology, that the War Department had the ‘brilliant” idea of Not Training their Tank Gunners how to use them, and not issuing instructional or technical manuals with the tanks… For fear of the technology falling into Enemy hands…. So the overwhelming majority of M4 Tankers in WW2 either dismounted the gyros first chance they got, or simply never used them. The US War Department has a history of thrusting new and experimental weapons onto their soldiers, but refusing to actually train them how to use them, (M4 Gyros) Clean them (early M16s) or holding them in reserve, negating any tactical advantage they might have gained in battle. (Browning Automatic Rifles)

Wow this one is well made ❤

bro is just having better and better ideas man like whole fury scene wth

Good movie and good recreation

@ZombieSlayer-dj3wb

10 ай бұрын

Ok movie

This is awesomeee

R.I.P urkindadead you did well and 1 of the best Sherman users in this vid

6:46 naaaaaaah, that laugh is something unique 👏🤣

i just see a lil detail,the main tank wasn't a normal sherman firefly,it was a M4A2E8,it's like an uprgarded sherman with the 75mm newer gun and the modern suspension of the time,it was allso provided by a tank museum in great britain

@TxMONEY28

Жыл бұрын

It’s got a bigger 76mm the fire fly had a longer 75mm this easy 8 with the 76mm was a big deal it could finally penetrate the nazis armor same with over in the Korean War is Americans used it over there and it was fantastic most of our men preferred that over the bigger m26 Pershing with the 90mm because the m26 transmission and engine were weak af had a hard time in the mountains over in Korea ! Due to the fact the Pershing literally entered the war at the end it didn’t get much field testing so they would realize the transmission problems until Korea since the land isn’t very flat there in Korea

@O_0195

Жыл бұрын

@@TxMONEY28 thx for the info! i shure missed some details

You guys are the best

epic video :)

Know one gonna say how the E8 was having a hard time trying to get around the tiger 2 when it was reversing? Lol

that was so good !!!

Fun fact that is tiger 131 and I've had the pleasure of siting in it and getting a ride same as the fury sherman

This is why a King Tiger should've been there, fighting Fury with at least 19 other Shermans.

What if Fury was made by war thunder players. By that I mean Maus vs 1945 vehicles from USA

@GustSergeant

Жыл бұрын

Luckily for you, there's already a video that muffin made of this exact scenario. Slight spoilers; the Maus doesn't do so hot

@Wasattsi

Жыл бұрын

@@GustSergeant “sLigHt SpOiLeRs” *spoils the video*

That was a fun event hope to be part of more in the future

@Lamosamo67

Жыл бұрын

You kicked ass in round 3 man, I was one of the tiger 2’s in that one

@TheKingHanged

Жыл бұрын

@@Lamosamo67 yea I enjoyed it a lot.

Very cool shallow deflection is a thing even in warthhunder

I love this movie thanks for making this video 😊

my all time favorite movie

Fury is a fun movie to watch, if you can suspend belief/don't know much about tanks. But yeah if you think of IRL...it hurts.

I missed this event but i was able to join as a geopard in the next one

This is genius!

Hell yeah!

you should always put the discord conversation so that it would be more fun

It only took 2 hours to complete filming :)) i was there

@Lamosamo67

Жыл бұрын

Same, I was lamosamo67. It took ages. Mostly to find the right tanks lol

Would have been nice to see the Tiger 2's perspective on the non-pen to see what kind of shell he used. He may have used HE or HEAT just to keep the tank alive and finish the reenactment. But I guess the good old "War Thunder sucks" joke was too easy to pass up. Also would have liked to see the hit camera at the very least.

Only difference is that this 76 Sherman actually had to close the gap since it can’t pen king tiger frontally, only from the side and rear

Ah yes a warthuder youtuber judging a Holly wood movie

@ThunderWithMuffin

Жыл бұрын

I guess that’s me now lol

@j0ck054

Жыл бұрын

@@ThunderWithMuffin I don't judge I almost raged when I saw the movie

Good job holding up tiger

If the tiger commander was smart in the movie he would’ve destroyed the E8 Sherman first to get rid of the main characters

I don’t think angling armor was common for tanks in that era. That is what people nowadays do in video games

@tank7275

Жыл бұрын

well some instructions and diagrams were included in the Tigerfibel (Tiger 1 Manual) which basically boiled down to: angling shows the enemy armour they can't penetrate. in other words, angle the tank. though as far as i know the tiger is the only tank where angling was explicitly taught, so you are right that it's not common

I honestly expected the shermans to stomp the tigers in the last bit, they just can’t pen the T2H from the frontal arc.

muffin, try a high tier spaa like the 2a6 or adats and have a swarm of biplanes and othe 1.0-2.0 fighters

@ThunderWithMuffin

Жыл бұрын

Already in the works of being made:)

Let’s face it… if it was a real scenario, brad Pitt and his crew would of been the first to die, followed by the rear tank and crew. Then the two trapped and confused in the middle.. end of movie…

That last sherman was a hero

Tiger in Fury is basically 5.7 Wittmann wannabes in War Thunder so it’s actually accurate.. to a certain extent 😂

in fury the tank "fury" be to have the 75 mm cannon instead of the easy eight that seen in the movie so the tiger scene was written as tho "fury" had a 75 mm cannon.

I need to watch fury ngl

1:15 to take out the rear tank was also an accepted method. Should have still gone for the 76mm sherman though

For the next video ostwind 2 vs low tier tanks (m2a4, pz35..)

Tank doctrine dictates......First shot, lead tank....second shot, rear tank.....then clean up the middle. Maintain distance because of greater velocity and firing range.

Yes

can you recreate the canyon dogfight of topgun Maverick? (there aren't Su-57 so i thought about the last ones )

Good break down on what the tiger did wrong in the movie however I’d like to just point out that nobody really actually angled their vehicles during ww2 so that’s not really a fault

@qee4617

Жыл бұрын

Only Tiger 1 crews were instructed to angle their hulls, as it was mentioned in the Tigerfibel (the manual)

Idc what is nitpicked about its unrealistic parts, the movie fury is an awesome one

the commander of the Tiger in Fury thinks this was World of Tanks, cuz he always shoot tanks wothout knowing the weaker panels

This is the exact situation where flanking DOES make sense. The 76mm could easily penetrate Tiger I's frontal armour.

next one of these type videos you do is it possible to let me have a crack at filming the replay? I've spent a lot of time in war thunder replays learning cinematic strategies + i am very experienced with editing. this is a very cool video but the camerawork/editing flow feels shaky and disjointed. Let me try to help

@ThunderWithMuffin

Жыл бұрын

Send me some work you’ve done. I’ve love to check it out

I hope to see early cold war jets vs ww2 planes :))

5:57 me in every match of WT ever

10:50 mans not even angling lol

realistically, there wouldn't be any americans or germans shouting orders in war thunder, rather, it would be 'capture the c point'

It’s sad that the fury in the recreations was a M4A2 and not the M4A3 like it should be.

@ThunderWithMuffin

Жыл бұрын

It was the M4A3

@TetrumRiot

Жыл бұрын

@@ThunderWithMuffin in your video it is a M4A2 that was used

@Bifferpag

Жыл бұрын

Fury is an M4A2E8 so technically, its impossible to recreate in WT cause the M4A2 76 W has vvss not hvss like Fury did

@TetrumRiot

Жыл бұрын

@@Bifferpag the Fury is not a m4a2 it is a m4a3

@Bifferpag

Жыл бұрын

@@TetrumRiot Historically, it should be an M4A3 but the one in the film is an M4A2 chassis

It would be so cool if they did fight a king tiger

Fury would work with a Tiger 1 EASILY if the German tankers wouldn‘t be that stupid in the movie.

Maybe Brad Pitt was playing War thunder

Bruh that’s he that hit the Sherman

6:00 he most likely used he muffin

She the thing is with the tanks of tigers we weren’t able to get the exact measurement of armor we weren’t able to simulate the exact hardness of the armor

i think you should decide more if you want show a simulation on a open field or in a city and don't mix them up so much. There is a big difference. Ofcause the weaker tanks have much more chance in the city cause they can hide and atack from close distance where they can pen them. I would find the final round more interesting if they would stay on opfen field to compare it better to the other rounds. Btw. i would find it great when you repeat the match tiger 1 vs Abrams in a city. I think in the city the tiger would win in this majority

Tiger Ace (Michael Wittman) V.s Fury with 2 M4 Sherman (S)

What tank did you use for Fury since the M4A3e8 isn't in the game

Maybe the commander of the tiger tank is the first breed that say "GeRmAnY SuFfErS"

The Fury scene becomes more realistic with a Tiger 2 Edit: Tiger 1 would be a goner at the first 76mm hit. But the Tiger 2 kept its frontal invincibility.

I think you were a bit harsh imagining the shots the tiger could have hit as in real life, there are many more part inaccuracies and miscalculations than in WT.

Next : The danger zone operation ?

Angling intentionally wasn’t really a thing in ww2 as you don’t really know where all the enemies are. For all you know you’re already angled where your periscope is facing. And then you follow commands from the commander. Not your brain meats.

Although the armor is 102 mm thick, the production of Tiger 1's armor It is as flexible and high quality as ordinary steel armor up to 130-140 mm thick. War thunder haven't system quality armour because for balance game. Sometimes simulation games just don't prove comparable to reality.

You forgot another factor. Warthunder German bias as well. In addition, warthunder is going to do whatever it wants too (not pen when it can pen).

The tiger didn’t angle In the film because they were using a real legitimate king tiger the last in existence and turning it was believed it would damage its treads

There was only one thing and it was that in the first scene the tiger was supposed to reverse

Was HE used for the fury getting hit scene It looks like a HE shell

3rd round all the tigers should have retreated to higher ground outside of the city and just pick them off one by one

0:49 why hè didint shoot while hè was standing still is because the was smoke so hè couldn't see

Ok what would you do in this situation if a normal Sherman was leading and the Sherman’s with the better guns were in the middle and a normal Sherman at the back Would you still shoot the first then last Sherman knowing the other two can pen you for Or would you get the better Shermans first And in what Oder would you shoot them Im just wondering because its on my mind every sense i started watching this

How can I get involved with these videos ?

I know this was a bit ago, but the Easy 8 should have been an M4A3 instead of an M4A2.

Basically angling the tank is not a thing in ww2 tankers or modern tankers