Fun fact! Envy being a dog was likely due to the fact that horses are one of, if not the most difficult animals to animate. Notoriously do in fact. You'd never guess from the amount of horsegirl shoes how difficult they are because they take either an insane amount of skill or simplification (no harm in it!) Dogs on the other hand are very easy! At least in comparison. So its probably a lot easier to find someone who can make a dog look good as opposed to a horse.

@APinchofBazel

2 жыл бұрын

Unless you're James Baxter, of course.

@Cliffviewnightradiodj

2 жыл бұрын

They’re a pain to draw as well

@SingingSealRiana

2 жыл бұрын

weird

@Silver-Arm

2 жыл бұрын

I also doubt many people can make a horse look as intimidating as Arakawa, just check Silver Spoon cap 1 and ep 1 to see the massive difference.

@slevinchannel7589

2 жыл бұрын

The whole 'Dont ever close your eyes and always seek the True Truth and just question yourself all the time'-Message: How do Theists react to it? Especially Christians and Muslims? Lets be honest, only a very small percentage really ever questions the Bible; and of those who do (i hear it all the time:) all of those become Atheists. If you stop being gullable and discuss Religion for real and have a real talk about it, it all falls apart, as Atheist-Channels prove all the time, yeah? Or am i looking too harshly on all this? Let alone a ‚never-ending Search’, but do they not (most, at least) totally ignore other Religions as well as Atheism and their Arguments. If anything, they are so massively gullable that they believe Pastors making up the stuff that Atheists supposedly say/argue - aka Narrative-Manipulation or outright Lying.

I honestly didn’t even realize this was a new episode…… how many times have I fucking rewatched all your FMA episodes….

@slevinchannel7589

2 жыл бұрын

The whole 'Dont ever close your eyes and always seek the True Truth and just question yourself all the time'-Message: How do Theists react to it? Especially Christians and Muslims? Lets be honest, only a very small percentage really ever questions the Bible; and of those who do (i hear it all the time:) all of those become Atheists. If you stop being gullable and discuss Religion for real and have a real talk about it, it all falls apart, as Atheist-Channels prove all the time, yeah? Or am i looking too harshly on all this? Let alone a ‚never-ending Search’, but do they not (most, at least) totally ignore other Religions as well as Atheism and their Arguments. If anything, they are so massively gullable that they believe Pastors making up the stuff that Atheists supposedly say/argue - aka Narrative-Manipulation or outright Lying.

thank you for mentioning the voice acting in the Mustang vs Envy scene. there's this one PHENOMENAL moment of perfect marriage between VA and animation. the cut where Mustang goes to snap again, but it's like his hand has tensed up so much from anger that his fingers, for a solid swing of motion are just locked together, tenser than a bow-string. and Travis Willingham in the dub matches this with this impeccable growl that pitches into this almost feral crack leap in pitch , his voice cracking with pure emotion, just before he finally snaps again. it's utterly incredible

@chaoscontroller316

2 жыл бұрын

Are you referring to that godly roar Mustang lets out before burning Envy's body entirely to cinders?

@rhondahoward8025

2 жыл бұрын

I also noticed that Envy's suffering sounds more horrific in the dub. Their pain is more pronounced as Mustang repeatedly and ruthlessly burns them alive.

@benobrien7920

4 ай бұрын

I love how I know exactly the moment you're talking about from this description

@TheSoulCrisis

3 ай бұрын

I agree.....both of Mustang's major battles against Lust and Envy were incredible in detail and execution......especially Mustang's rage roaring through his flames at the agonizing pain of losing his dear friend!

Knowing that there was a scene in the manga where Hohenheim passed away and returned to the remains of his house where he finally met up with Trisha, and they spoke a bit about how proud they were of their sons’ and how their job looking after them was done, makes me wish we had some of that extra finality with Trisha and Hohenheim at the end. It’s just so sweet and feels so nice to see Hohenheim finally able to be with his wife again.

I feel the same way after reading the manga. I questioned why so many scenes were omitted but at the same time felt that Brotherhood had amazing delivery on the scenes it adapted. I think without seeing the manga prior, Brotherhood is amazing but I can understand why some people feel the adaptation is an injustice to the series. Personally, I prefer the manga. Despite that, I still love the story from both mediums.

@FranzoOnLine

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I'd be more forgiving to Brotherhood's shortcomings if it wasn't touted as "the greatest anime ever made" constantly, to the point that its fans on MAL will score every show that surpasses it or comes close to surpassing it a 1/10 in an attempt to keep it at the top. The parts it does well it does very well, but even before reading the manga or watching 03 I got the impression something was missing from Brotherhood and I only really got that when I read the manga. No show should have such a reputation, it just leads me to having very high expectations and being disappointed when they aren't met.

@thomasweyand7954

2 жыл бұрын

@@FranzoOnLine I have only seen Brotherhood, and anything else I’ve gotten from these videos. While I liked the show, there were many parts where I thought it felt underdeveloped only to find out that’s because there was cut context from the manga

@kori9779

2 жыл бұрын

@@FranzoOnLine I think the anime is among the best. Top 3 definitely. And it's #1 since it has a wide appeal. The only anime that have surpassed it are movies and sequels. While many people give 1/10s to other shows, this applies to FMA:B as well. They get more 1s than any other anime in the current top 5.

@doublekey8931

2 жыл бұрын

@@FranzoOnLine Exactly what I think. While the show is very good and enjoyable, I thought some things were disappointing and a bit underwhelming. Since it was #1 on the list, I came in with extremely high expectations and, I don't want to say they were disappointed, but I thought it had more to offer. Despite all this, I still think it's a solid show with a great cast of characters.

The fading of FMA 2003 from the most popular show to obscurity is one of the great injustices in anime.

@sprawlz6466

2 жыл бұрын

So true. It’s mega under appreciated. It’s in my personal top 5 favorite shonen animes with brotherhood. The biggest crime is that people tell you to start with brotherhood for some reason, what’s up with that? I looked up which one to watch first and people said brotherhood. I see 0 advantages to starting with brotherhood over 2003.

@haosmagnaingram6992

2 жыл бұрын

@@sprawlz6466 I definitely wouldn’t consider 2003 to be shonen, it falls way closer to seinen in my opinion, and expecting it to be shonen often I’ve found is part of the reason some people get disappointed.

@sprawlz6466

2 жыл бұрын

@@haosmagnaingram6992 I just go by definition. I agree that it’s basically incomparable to dragon ball in terms of maturity, but there are seinens that are about as deep as demon slayer too. Two more of my favorites, Trigun and Chainsaw Man, are technically shonens too and they’re about as mature as it gets. And I’m pretty sure Parasyte is seinen and I think it’s one of the dumbest things I’ve seen. So I just go by whatever genre Japan considers it to be.

@haosmagnaingram6992

2 жыл бұрын

@@sprawlz6466 I'm not even purely talking about maturity but just basic conflict resolution and how fights are portrayed the only real shonen feeling fight was ed vs greed and arguably Izumi vs ed & Al vs wrath and just the entire tonality is way closer to a creeping mystery exploring the human condition like monster or parasyte than it is to a power fantasy shonen epic like say Hunter X Hunter or Yu Yu hakusho.

@sprawlz6466

2 жыл бұрын

@@haosmagnaingram6992 I guess I agree with that too. FMA 2003 really changed the game for shonen anime. All shonens previously had similar tones that felt fight oriented, “badass”, and formulaic except for Trigun. But I don’t think Trigun was very popular when it first came out. FMA03 proved that you could be popular without having the same tone of a traditional shonen. Then followed Samurai Champloo, Death Note, Code Geass, and later on we got Attack on Titan, Mob Psycho 100, etc. It’s like FMA03 created a brand new style of shonen anime, or at least popularized it. When people ask me if I like shonen anime I never know what to say. Because I pretty much hate every traditional style shonen whereas I love the “new” style shonens. My favorite traditional shonen is probably Hunter x Hunter and I’d give that like a 7/10 lol. Though I feel the 1999 version of HxH is like halfway in between something like Dragon Ball and something like FMA03. No doubt that series also helped in the new variety of tones for shonen anime.

There are four types of people: -the ones that prefer brotherhood -the ones that prefer the 2003 adaption -the ones that prefer the manga over both adaptions -and lastly there are people like me that likes every version equally

@sprawlz6466

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve never read the manga but I plan to. My next experience with FMA will be through the manga.

@Jirodyne

2 жыл бұрын

You missed the 5th type of person. The people who don't watch Cartoons or Animes, and don't read Mangas, so have never seen or read anything FMA, and perfer none of them.

@Lowart

2 жыл бұрын

I'm definitely in the 5th category myself

@dashman8499

2 жыл бұрын

I think the manga will always be my favorite, but I love every version of the series, they all do different stuff well

@jeffthomas9768

2 жыл бұрын

There's a 6th option: people who enjoy both! the manga and the series. (either series, 2003 or brotherhood) personally, I prefer Brotherhood to 2003 v. but I do plan on getting Brotherhood in a DVD boxed set soon.

In my opinion, episode 27 is the best recap episode I’ve ever seen in any anime. It works as a good reminder of what happened (as recaps do), but it also explores the significance of all the events it covers. And it’s executed in such a creative manner because it also manages to expand upon hoenheim’s character simultaneously. That is how you should make a recap episode if you choose to include one. I found this one episode so intriguing because recap episodes are usually trash. The only other recap episode in existence that I remember enjoying was the one in evangelion. But that was mostly because it moved hella quickly with some neat presentation and it only spanned half of the episode.

@wisdommanari6701

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@LunarJaguar

2 жыл бұрын

Avatar the Last Airbender has an amazing recap too

@sprawlz6466

2 жыл бұрын

@@LunarJaguar facts. I forgot about that one but it’s technically not an anime so I don’t think I would’ve brought it up anyway.

@LunarJaguar

2 жыл бұрын

@@sprawlz6466 that's fair

@Shalakor

2 жыл бұрын

@@sprawlz6466 Most actual anime are technically not anime, since they're being animated in the same studios that the "not Japanese so not anime" cartoons are being animated in. ...Um, I mean, Kill la Kill's "Recap Episode" spans just one short cold open to preface a huge crazy lore dump.

Part of the reason Brotherhood has a better reputation as an adaptation than it probably deserves is because, honestly, a lot of the stuff cut isn't super obvious or detrimental to anyone who never read the manga. You rarely get the sense anything is truly missing, outside of when it's very blatant like with the mining town where the show basically goes "hey remember this thing that totally happened but we just didn't show it". But I would guess 90-95% of the time, people who haven't read the manga will have no idea and I think that's a testament to the fact that on some level, they knew what they were doing. There are definitely adaptations where even as an anime-only you can kinda tell they're rushing something, or that something was probably cut or swapped around. With Brotherhood, which I watched first, I almost never felt that. Whether any of that matters in regards to judging it as an adaptation is a matter of opinion, I guess it kinda depends on what you value in an adaptation. But I think it's worth mentioning.

@TheSoulCrisis

3 ай бұрын

This is an excellent observation.....for example I watched the 2003 version when it came out but never read the manga (I might have one or two volumes at most). Many people compared all versions with the manga version having the full details and context, which is what I wanted for the adaptation but they skipped out on certain details that doesn't benefit the story or characters by doing so (yet they are not huge blunders that it detracts entirely, it's more like a neutral change that doesn't effect too many things). Still those details are great for having as it fleshes the story and characters out more, but it's unlike the massive and jarring changes that 2003 implemented when it ran off the rails from the source material that made little sense onwards to major consequences in the plot and characterization. I hated how Brotherhood removed the mining town mini arc because I don't want studios skipping small arcs or details just because it has a previous version already, I want adaptations done right with the understanding of why those small segments and details matter. They should know how it affects, changes, or builds up plot elements and characters later on. I also admit it bothered me more because I already knew about it, I imagine time and budget constraints forced their hand in these instances. We know anime production cycles are rough as hell, but I have to give them props for cutting out the smaller details that would least negatively impact the story and characters. In a story the small details build up to the big ones.....so while every detail has some meaning at least they made the best choices under their circumstances and production cycle. If they had all the time and budget in the world I'm sure we would have gotten a perfect anime adaptation, often those above them won't allow it. One thing I always agree with is the 2003 version has superior opening and ending themes, along with a superior soundtrack and truly intense and dark emotional scenes that really suck you into a character's despair. It is often mentioned that Brotherhood doesn't match the heights of these emotional and dark tones in some instances (from voice acting to background music). If you combined the best parts of 2003 with Brotherhood I think you'd get that perfect anime, so it's still great to have both interpretations as it gives us insight into where each falls short versus just having one interpretation. I at least always count the small details when evaluating adaptations, it shows how passionate and committed the team was to preserving the original vision and substance of the body of work (with the understanding that realistically they sometimes need to make adjustments or cut things due to time and budget constraints).

I find it interesting that some of the "Changes you don't like" were kept in 2003 but not put in Brotherhood. I guess they didn't bother because the assumption is that people have seen both? Idk

@Lowart

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know if the creators have ever confirmed that anywhere, but that's my thought as well

@scottvgamer1163

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I did. Because of that, I'm fine with them not having those moments in both versions, even though it would make Brotherhood truly the superior version. TINY MINISKIRTS!!!

@genyakozlov1316

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottvgamer1163 It would not, because it would still be based on the inferior manga, but it would make it worthy of the praise it received anyway, for being the most faithful adaptation, and it wouldn't be inferior to that already inferior manga as it is now.

@scottvgamer1163

2 жыл бұрын

@@genyakozlov1316 I meant the superior between the two anime versions.

@TheGamingSiri

2 жыл бұрын

Fortunately, many of those options having been animated already offers a degree of possiblity to a somewhat improved version of Broho season 1. Check out that project here!: kzread.info/head/PLP9JcGPkD9pYW7GSppZz6xIv6bo0Tx0pt

I just started the manga (the kanzenban edistion has arrived recently here in my country), another difference is that in the manga is clear that Ed saw the truth a second time for giving his arm, before reading the manga I didn't even think about it

@slevinchannel7589

2 жыл бұрын

The whole 'Dont ever close your eyes and always seek the True Truth and just question yourself all the time'-Message: How do Theists react to it? Especially Christians and Muslims? Lets be honest, only a very small percentage really ever questions the Bible; and of those who do (i hear it all the time:) all of those become Atheists. If you stop being gullable and discuss Religion for real and have a real talk about it, it all falls apart, as Atheist-Channels prove all the time, yeah? Or am i looking too harshly on all this? Let alone a ‚never-ending Search’, but do they not (most, at least) totally ignore other Religions as well as Atheism and their Arguments. If anything, they are so massively gullable that they believe Pastors making up the stuff that Atheists supposedly say/argue - aka Narrative-Manipulation or outright Lying.

It's been a while, and I'm not disappointed. I hope you're doing good and have a great day

EDIT: Thank you to Mr. Edit down below for pointing out that some of Alex being dismissed is included in a brief flashback in episode 29 of Brotherhood. My mistake. Also, I've had a few comments/messages asking me how I'd recommend mixing the manga and Brotherhood. While I'd definitely recommend going through both if you have the time, if I was going to mix both versions I would read chapters 1-62, then watch episode 27, followed by episodes 31 to the end of Brotherhood. Fullmetal August, babyyyy The next Fullmetal Alchemist video will be released one week from now, on August 20th. I can say that with full confidence because the video is already done, so there'll be no goofy flip-flopping from me this time! It's also up on Patreon currently for all $1+ patrons who'd like to see it early: www.patreon.com/lowart If you'd like updates on future videos, you can also follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/TheLowestArt I'm only moderately stupid on there, I promise. Either way, thank you for watching, and I hope you enjoy it! Have a good one

@thebonfireofgains

2 жыл бұрын

Niceee When do you plan to cover AoT Final Season Part 1?

@Lowart

2 жыл бұрын

@@thebonfireofgains I have another FMA video in the works, so after that one I will do AoT Final Season Part 1. (The script for it's almost done, so getting editing done is the current roadblock). I would have done it sooner, but I was waiting to see if the blu-rays would contain any presentation changes significant enough to change my opinion on the season.

@rumle5

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lowart You truly are one of the best video-essay people on KZread and your videos are made to be so perfect I can't do anything but keep watching and rewatching them over and over

@thebonfireofgains

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lowart Nice. Yeah there have been quite a number of those presentation changes. Anyway take your time. Looking forward as always

@Boxygirl96

2 жыл бұрын

Pls, what would be the best transition point for a manga/anime viewing approach. I NEED IT T°T

Brotherhood is the goat anime for me, I honestly don’t think anything will ever top it. Even though it cuts some early material, I like the pacing of it because it gets to the best stuff after only 15-20ish episodes, whereas if they had been more faithful to the manga, the series probably would’ve been a few episodes longer. Either way, it may not be perfect, but I couldn’t love it more!

@slevinchannel7589

2 жыл бұрын

The whole 'Dont ever close your eyes and always seek the True Truth and just question yourself all the time'-Message: How do Theists react to it? Especially Christians and Muslims? Lets be honest, only a very small percentage really ever questions the Bible; and of those who do (i hear it all the time:) all of those become Atheists. If you stop being gullable and discuss Religion for real and have a real talk about it, it all falls apart, as Atheist-Channels prove all the time, yeah? Or am i looking too harshly on all this?

currently reading the manga, and was suprised by some of the things left out in the anime, especially izumi's interactions, talking about how she can't bring the cat back to life, and how if you can do something without alchemy, you should

@kristofgriffin384

5 ай бұрын

Ironically, this is an instance where the 2003 series is more faithful to the source material than Brotherhood.

Still sad that Ling saying he was proud of Lan Fan was removed. Also Lan Fan vs Envy

The ishvalian massacre is my favorite part of the manga , I can't believe they cut so much stuff from the it.

After watching the video I do wanna say that the beginning of the show is interesting for Brotherhood. I tried to show one of my friends FMAB while we were at my place and she ended up not enjoying the beginning too much and all I could think was how??? Like this is my favorite series of all time and I always forget to realize how I accidentally watch the 03 version first where so much more characterization was fleshed out for those first few arcs and realized while in Brotherhood they really did just expect you to know and just kinda glossed over what I feel like was some pretty important stuff. Anyways there was no point to this just something I thought about after watching the video LOL

@xtoadsannom6704

2 жыл бұрын

Brotherhood just came out way too soon after 2003. 5 more years and they probably wouldn't have felt the need to glose over the stuff already covered by 2003.

Back when I first read the manga, having already watched the 2003 adaptation, it *really* stood out to me how bad the character assassination of Basque Gran was. And then Brotherhood did nothing to remedy it. Why do the anime adaptations have it out for that guy?

@Lowart

2 жыл бұрын

Poor guy can't catch a break

@xtoadsannom6704

2 жыл бұрын

Basque Gran isn't really character assassination, the guy didn't even appear in the manga until long after the end of the first anime.

I have an important question. Have you read the physical last manga volume of fma? There is a chapter that you will only find in the 27th volume where Eds mother and father talk to each other in the after life next to the iconic tree seen in the ops of fma. It’s beautiful you have to check it out and if you need it I have some pictures of it. It’s my favorite part.

No FMA:2003? Owwwww. Anyway, great analysis as expected. P.S.: FMA:2003 can't get enough love.

A lot of the stuff cut in Brotherhood was in the 2003 anime. Which is sad to me because 2003's existence hurt Brotherhood because it gave them an excuse to cut corners. It's a shame because I love 2003 as well.

@haosmagnaingram6992

2 жыл бұрын

One of the creators of brotherhood, directly denounced this theory of brotherhood’s writers consciously assuming the viewer already watched 2003. With the limited episode count something was going to get cut, somethings would get less focus. The writers wanted to focus on the later stuff which may have been unofficially/unconsciously influenced by their previous work on 2003 but it wasn’t something used as an excuse (at the very least not openly)

My primary issue is how overdone the comedy is in the anime. Its much more intrusive imo and undercuts a lot of scenes

@Lowart

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I had a section complaining about that, but then I realized I'd already mentioned it previously so I had to cut it haha Worst offender imo is when Ross is getting rescued from jail by Barry, and Brotherhood adds in her falling to her knees under a spotlight with goofy animation and sound fx

@blipe992

2 жыл бұрын

How do you feel about the comedy in the manga? I can never settle on a opinion, on one hand I'm used to Arakawa's style and it doesn't take away from the feeling but also it's much more than I remembered

@samlerf

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lowart Have you seen the video "Fullmetal Alchemist Retrospective | A Series Made Fullmetal"? It's pretty great.

@sprawlz6466

2 жыл бұрын

I personally only thought it was terrible in like the first 10 episodes (which weren’t great anyway). After that, the jokes become less abundant and more funny. Like when Ed and Al get to Briggs and they got assigned to knock down the icicles but Ed couldn’t reach them. I thought that was funny. Or when Winry goes in her room to relax and she starts undressing only to see that Ed is just in there watching her while stuffing his face with a sandwich. I thought both of those jokes were funny and well timed. And the humor gets pretty rare in the second half of the series which I thought was very fitting for the increasingly serious mood.

@Lowart

2 жыл бұрын

@@samlerf I saw a little bit of it, but ended up turning it off because I've been avoiding watching most other FMA-related content for the most part. From what I saw, he did a great job with that video, but I'm paranoid I'll accidentally copy something he says without remembering where I heard it before, if that makes sense haha

Another great video! Your FMA content is always a joy. I will say though that one cut part of the Ishvalan War that actually was in the anime was the scene where Armstrong is dismissed from the army. It's a short flashback in episode 29.

@Lowart

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! And yup looks like you're right about that. Time to update the pinned comment haha

So happy to see this series is back, the wait was worth it! Thank you for all your hard work

I have been rewatching your FMA videos and I really appreciate how objective you are on both anime series and the manga and how each medium has its strengths and weaknesses. Thank you so much for the years you've spent working on these videos and the other videos you plan to do!

What an interesting video, I always wondered in what aspects Brotherhood differs from the manga. Thank you for summing it all up for us!

I have been waiting for the next FMA video from you for like a year and a half.. YES!!! Finally!! Much love bro! Keep up the good work. Great content!

Thanks for subtitles, you are the best

glad you're continuing this series. I've watched broho since your last video on FMA!

GREAT comparison, really enjoyed the way you structured your video :)

Nice, the perfect video to start the weekend with.

Good work Lowart, I always enjoy your fma videos

Well Can't say I saw this video coming. Great as always.

this is why i like the characters a bit better in 03 a lot of the stuff you mentioned that where cut from the beginning of the story where adapted into the 03 version, it gave a lot more depth like the part with edward defending al with the knife and izumi with the children

@luckygirlumid7627

Жыл бұрын

Yepp i thinkk too

So happy to see you back!!! I look forward to when I get access to free wi-fi!! I’m always hoping for more 03 vs brotherhood as well as more excellent critiquing of Brotherhood.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched the videos in this series. I love all versions of FMA so it’s fun to see the differences so closely examined

Aways great to see your videos

Ishbalan war should've been an entire OVA or a short movie of its own. I will sound like an elitist/manga purist but I really hate what Brotherhood did to it. Armstrong letting go of those Ishbalans, only to be killed by Kimblee, was the most scarring scene in the manga in my opinion. And yes there's also Hawkeye. There were so many details about her and Roy's past that brotherhood didn't find important. Her fear of her father, the more accurate scene of her father's death and the conversations in front of the grave, longer conversation with Roy about self-deception, the emphasis of watching each other's back. So, so many rich, tragic details that have been omitted, yet the stupid episode 30 ending where May Chang falls for her idea of Alphonse was given screentime? It wasn't even in the same volume as the Ishbalan war. I love FMA but that was one of the stupidest decisions in the series.

great viedo, like always. Great job

Missed you, man

Oh shit, it's been a minute since you dropped one of these 🙌🏿

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LOWART UPLOADED A FMA VIDEOOOO

Thanks for this video.

Always love the fma content

bro you have the most settling voice ever i love your videos

great video bro

A lot of the stuff cut from early chapters is still present in the 2003 series and I think that's why they seemed to rush passed it in Brotherhood to get to the new stuff.

@thomasffrench3639

2 жыл бұрын

Which is really unfortunate, and even tho I get it, it’s pretty backwards to assume that the 2003 is expected to be seen first. The anime will always be second to the manga in Japan, and western audiences don’t really understand that because we see comics as lesser to filmmaking.

It's back let's go

Ayo I appreciate you linking the songs you used in the backround.

I absolutely love this show! I don't watch much anime since it hasn't really been my thing, but FMA has to be one of my favorite shows I have ever seen. The one way I haven't experienced it is the manga. I plan to buy it here soon so I can read through the story. I have seen this so many times. Thanks for these great analyses. Great stuff.

I never thought you hate Brotherhood. you just dont like that things were cut xD which is perfectly fine. Because you just want more brotherhood : D

I had forgotten about this video series! Oh well, time to rewatch the whole thing!

Man, I wanna go back and watch Fullmetal Alchemist now

YES!!! I was worried you canceled this!!!

Bradley's return was so fricking awesome! He is a beast!!

This came out at the perfect time. Just finished a rewatch of Brotherhood the other day while also introducing it to my girlfriend for the first time. I used to read FMA back in the day but dropped it around the Briggs chapters and I always wondered how the anime and manga compared past that point. Thanks for the info!

1:54 I'm no mathwiz... *see what ya did there*

The way he got so emotional towards the end... Man, same.

I still prefer FMA 2003's much darker overall story. how it ties in with the core of the show and the saying that Edward uses so often "equivalent exchange, all throughout 2003 have one on one fights with very little huge shonen battle anime moments and the one on one fights were always more engaging. 2003 feels beginning to end like the same show that had a girls dad fuse her with a dog and then a revenge hungry serial killed out out of a twisted yet somewhat sympathetic sense of mercy. I know this video isn't about 2003 but I wish people would stop recommending brotherhood over 2003 there missing the strong beginning that hooks you into it.

@ThePreciseClimber

2 жыл бұрын

I don't wanna be a jerk but the way Lowart describes the depth of FMAB characters, well it doesn't really sound all that deep. Good is good, bad is bad, trauma is traumatic. Selfishness vs. friendship. It kinda reminds me of a certain scene from Thumb Wars: "You are bad! You are bad and we are good! Your badness will be the end of you, and our goodness will be our triumph! Bad is bad - good is good! Bad-bad-good-bad! Good-good-bad-good, bad! Good."

Great video man! But gotta say, I'm surprised you didn't talk more about the difference in Roy's scene in the last episode. I really love that Havoc mention, but it's quite the change from how crushed Roy was at that point in the manga until Marcoh appeared. I get why it was changed, just surprised it didn't get talked since at the time there were some discussions about it.

@Lowart

2 жыл бұрын

There is definitely a difference there, but it didn't stand out to me for whatever reason. Good to point it out here still though!

Welcome back leys do this

Some of the scenes you mentioned like Izumi telling the kids about not using alchemy to fix toys and the kitty dying those were in the 2003 anime, same with Ed automatically passing, the train hi-jacking also in the 2003 anime, however for me in Brotherhood I pretend these cut events happened offscreen.

How many years have I waited for this day

I really love the 3 versions, but there's one scene in brotherhood that I could never get behind. The truth about Hughes, in the manga, when Ed, Al and Winry ask Mustang about Hughes, he looks at them with such anguish, sadness and even desperation, in one look you can see all these emotions, all of his pain, but in the anime, this entire event is totally rushed, and Winry isn't even there, she's already at Hughe's house.

Loved your analysis! Definitely agree with you that the Ishvalan conflict should’ve been put into the anime more…

that part of Izumi telling kids not to use alchemy to solve all of their problems was shown in 2003

One change I'd like to mention is regarding Alex and Sig teaming up against sloth. In the anime, they met for the first time in this scene, whereas in the manga, they had already met during the Greed arc and became fast friends. When this scene happens in the manga, it's a reunion between two friends and Alex gets motivated by Sig's words to "Stand up" and their teamwork wrecks Sloth and it's the greatest scene ever and I LOVE IT!!! In the anime though, it looked like Alex got motivated because... he has a hard on for muscles? (I mean, he probably does, but...) Yeah, you can see I'm not fond of that change.

15:16 I love this part even more because as Winry is walking to the door, Trisha's theme plays in the background. It's usually used as a sad song but now it's being as a dramatic uplifting scene

I just finished FMAB and its pretty nice to know the stuff that wasn't in it.

Another change was that I'm the manga, father was able to flex longer after he achieved his full powered form. In the anime, the reversal happens almost immediately so there is no time to take in what has just happened. Maybe there was an episode limit, but I think they couldve extended that episode showing father's skills and then have the heros resolve it by using the counter measure.

Great video, I think you have improved a lot and I am glad to see that you are receiving more views. I agree with most of the negatives, like for example: about how brief and short it was the treatment of the ishvalan war, considering the gigantic impact that it had on the plot... although i dont think its rushed at all, at least in terms of pacing, it's more like the manga has some details that add more layers to the conflict and character progressions, but overall i think the did a find job. Or about the training with izumi or the yoki incident. But i think most of the other complais are really irrelevant or well too small to be really significant, so yeah even if you count them as nitpicking, there are really quite pointless. ( So i do not count them as flaw or things that affect the plot or narrative in a significant way) But i really agreed with the positive points; especially about the the recap episodes and the character of van hohenheim in brotherhood... At least for me his death moves me a lot, because; it is not only seeing a father dying in front of the grave of his own wife, but also seeing a man who has lived through various tragedies throughout his life, accepting that he had a life full of happiness. And that it was thanks to his family that made his life have a real purpose and meaning. Being able to see value in his life even knowing that he was going to lose what he loved the most and giving thanks for having had the blessing of having lived such a fulfilling life, dying with the " biggest smile he had in his life ". al's So overall i think brotherhood it's not a perfect but a pretty good adaptation of probably one of the greatest stories ever told. So... what is your favorite thing about the manga and brotherhood overall? and what are your thoughts on the animacion/ art of the series?

Missed you brother

I remember almost feeling bad for WANTing Mustang to fry the little bastard, lol. Something about the way your worded your analysis hit me in the feelz HARD -- srsly, you made me cry in that best way possible! It Travis Willingham's voice hitting every possible note of the frenzied and grief-stricken man Mustang is as he screams and lobs those final firebombs at Envy. That scene gets me every time. Anyway, thanks for sharing. :)

big eyes roy mustang will never get out of my head

Man, the Hohenheim scene at the end of the series always gets me regardless if I read it or not. It's just so good

Love this video, and agree on all of the points you make (I wrote a looong rant about Ishval a while ago because they really screwed that up). However, the ending of Brotherhood was a little bit rushed in my opinion. The manga showed more aftermath of the battle, helping the wounded, a bit more closure for some characters like Fu and Buccaneer. There's a couple of changes I'm surprised you didn't touch on: 1) In the manga, when Ed yells at Hohenheim and calls him a useless father, Hohenheim smiles and is happy that Ed finally called him Dad. In Brotherhood he just apologises sadly. I was sad to see this cut because it was a nice rounding off to Hohenheim and Ed's relationship. 2) After the final fight, still on the battlefield, Mustang is talking to Dr Knox about his eyesight. He talks about the irony and how he accepts that it's lost forever. He gives up on his dream of becoming Fuhrer but states that there's still plenty he can do for his country. That's when Marcoh steps in with the philosopher's stone. A small change but one that I personally like, as it shows Roy accepting his blindness but is a bit more of a sombre scene than Brotherhood's jump straight to optimism. 3) At the same time, Lan Fan sees Dr Knox talking to Mustang and remembers his words about not wanting to see kids fighting one another. She immediately speaks to Ling and asks him to protect the smaller rival clans when he becomes emperor, to which he agrees and goes and speaks to May. In Brotherhood this was cut, and Ling approached May on his own with this decision. There's also a small scene of Lan Fan saying goodbye to Fu. 4) The scene with Ed and Winry at the train station has a different tone. In the manga Ed is excited about travelling west, and there's a bit of back-and-forth banter between them about Ed's automail. In Brotherhood they made Ed really sulky and passive in this scene, which I found really weird. I get that it's because he was nervous about proposing to Winry, but it seemed very gloomy somehow. Anyway, always love to see your FMA videos! I'm glad that I'm not the only one who finds fault in FMAB as an adaptation.

4:55 I do think that is a really powerful moment and a good lesson. Don't avert your eyes from things you don't like. That line really did make me respect Kimbley as he never averts his eyes or denies things unlike so many others. If you do cruel things you need to owe up to them.

The fmab anime is one of the only ones where I enjoy it subbed and dubbed. The voice actors are amazing throughout with emotion in their voice. Something you miss in a lot of dubs.

19:50 I wish more comic book animated adaptation shows did this

Been a while, guessing you got a real job now. Hope you are doing good!!

@Lowart

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I got a summer job. Gotta keep some sort of financial stability lol I hope you're doing good as well!

The content of the war being removed is bhs worst crime imo

I m glad this video exist, so i, a manga reader, can see how diferent are the manga and the anime (i thought the brotherhood version would be identical)

Yayyyy more of this, I was a little worried Promised Neverland season 2 actually killed you

20:22 Actually, I tend to blend media often. I love to see what people do with ideas when done well and recognize the flaws of both old and new. I mix *gasp* dub and sub regularly, I love the English (it's the male leads VA in the og that killed that) Kare Kano and finish it off with the more serious manga at the Asimov based play. I love the original Secret Garden Especially the Red Fox Garnett reading on youtube) and the 90's movie as each brought important, thought provoking aspects. I love Every Pride and Prejudice version and will someday do comparisons like this on those myself (Very long time, don't go looking or anything), even the terrible musical which oddly has my favorite version of Darcy as the music opens up his inner workings and gets you to like him earlier. Why they made Mary a nun and Liz Jo March if she were also Scrooge, no idea, but the songs of Ms Bingley's letters were priceless. I survived Vampire Knight by mixing dub/sub and manga as there was just enough depth in the mix as it felt like a metaphor for the dangerous world of sexual abuse amongst the great stupidity and unhealthy messaging. Looking at different versions broadens the horizons and I generally recommend it, barring a total lack of respect for the source material and those are obvious. It's not that I hate the netflix "death note" movie; if they had called it Heather's Final Note and we could sit back and enjoy the bizarre combination of Heather's, Final Destination with a few Death Note story ideas, that would have been cool and clearly what the creator wanted to make, but that would mean licensing three movies, admitting that's what they wanted to do all along and they couldn't ride the coat tails of a superior work nearly as easily. No respect at all, they wanted the name and a few cool aspects, not the wealth of ideas. Anywho, generally good to take the time to look at all the versions in my book.

I feel like people who say "Brotherhood is accurate to the manga compated to 2003 there for better" had never read the manga and is just going by what others have said I am glad 2003 is getting the love its deserve and people are looking at brotherhood through a more critical lens instead of blindly praising it just for having a similar ending to the manga I love all 3 series I feel they give you a whole picture

a perfect video

I really like how detail it is about the subtle changes in the manga and brotherhood i wished you had used the anime to some part to reference how the parts that are not in manga is in the anime adaptation but not brotherhood

Hype!

Fun fact: in the dub, Lust is voiced by the irl wife of the guy who voices mustang

I'd argue that any chance at surprising us with Bradley's duplicity in Brotherhood was kinda set on fire in the first episode when he killed the antagonist in a cold-blooded rage and then five seconds later acted totally unruffled by the dead body once he had an in-universe audience. (*sigh* Seriously, how does such a great series have such a lousy first episode?)

I like Fullmetal alchemist 2003 more then Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood

Do you think then, that it's too late to make a new FMA anime? One that brings both 2003 and Brotherhood together in a giant reanimated retelling of the manga story, something like what Kai did to Dragon Ball Z?

@antarticstorm7991

Жыл бұрын

It would be really nice to have a one to one adaptation to the actual source material but I doubt Studio Bones would want to do a Another remake as they've done it 2 times already and if its really worth the money? Anime watchers enjoyed FMA:B as it is, does it really need it? Other then Manga readers complaining about it there isnt a large enough outcry to justify a reremake. So its doubtful unless a larger group of people complain and demand of it.

@thefrog4990

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. That would be nice.

I have a lot of the same thoughts about the stuff you brought up. I really can’t say which I prefer because it depends; on the one hand there are a lot of little moments in the manga that really flesh out the world and characters, plus the Ishval flashbacks are 100% better done in the manga and it honestly feels cowardly on the anime’s part to shy away from the depth of the war crimes presented in the manga. But on the other hand there are scenes like Lust’s death, Mustang vs Envy, and pretty much all the Promised Day battles which while the manga art is great are so, so much more impactful with motion and sound. In particular Mustang’s beatdown of Envy and the scene after that where everyone has to convince him to let go and then Envy’s true core character is revealed is so much better and more emotionally impactful in Brotherhood, especially the dub. Mustang and Envy’s VAs really carried that scene. It’s still good in the manga, but with the knowledge of how Brotherhood does it, even though it’s essentially the same scene it just has so much more emotional impact in the anime. So yeah, like you said, the manga is better in the first half mostly and Brotherhood is better in the second half. They’re both still amazing, and I feel like consuming both gives me a fuller picture. Great video; I love how you edit the manga panels! Edit: oh also! You talked about how the recap episode helped characterize Hohenheim but it also presents one of the main themes of the story - that people are capable of love and change, and I feel like that episode really gets to the core of both Hohenheim and the story as a whole despite also being a recap. It’s good!!

Fun fact the voice actor for Roy Mustang and Lust are married.

4:11 i remember that in the anime

One thing I miss from the manga was the final seen of Hohenheim meeting Trisha in the afterlife and talking about how the new generation will continue on. I get why they didn't include it, but I felt that it was a bittersweet ending for a story whose ending was already bittersweet.

Brotherhood needs the Brotherhood treatment ☠️😭

@JuniorRDZ04

Ай бұрын

EXACLTY!! But it's already done so many things right when portraying the manga, despite the removal of things.

The one omission that wasn't mentioned was after Al gets his body back and the armor that was old body is returned and melted for automail.

@thomasffrench3639

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a nice detail, but honestly it’s something that’s not really necessary

This was a great video and accurately summed up how I also feel about Brotherhood as an anime (despite it being my favorite anime)! I think a huge reason why most of its fault was with early plot (earlier episodes, the war in ishval, etc.) is because these were plot points consistent in the 2003 anime, and Funimation might have been worried that if it spent too much time on parts of the plot many fans had already seen, it would feel repetitive and boring for 2003 fans watching brotherhood. Ultimately I think it was a relatively poor on their end to rush the first half of the anime (if this even is the reason), because it not only underestimated the willingness of existing fans to watch something familiar, but it also neglected new fans watching brotherhood who had never seen the 2003 anime. But it’s like you said; the latter part of the anime is just so unbelievably perfect and more than makes up for the slow-yet-underdeveloped issues from the first part of the series I think the ONLY other major issue I had was how the soundtrack and selected scenes basically screamed “King Bradley is a villain” in the beginning of brotherhood. When I read the manga, there were no ominous pieces playing to his dialogue and scenes, so while you knew there was something suspicious about the military, you could never tell if Bradley was part of the conspiracy (which made the Volume 7 reveal that much more impactful). But honestly, his character was the only one that I felt was a little disserviced in brotherhood, so I can’t complain too much

@haosmagnaingram6992

2 жыл бұрын

Firstly funimation has absolutely nothing to do with anything regarding the production of anime outside of dubbing and distribution. Second a lot of the lengthy cuts are because it’s been documented that The director of Brotherhood didn’t get the episode count he wanted having to fight for extra episodes he only managed to get due to the proven success from the 2003 adaptation. What’s more likely is they utilized the existence of the 2003 adaptation to decide where things would get cuts because without more episodes they needed cuts, and ishval was cut as it was flashbacks so while it built lots of characterization it wasn’t necessary to get the plot in motion. Brotherhood also just feels more rushed than the manga in those early parts because the directing in a lot of those episodes was some of the worst in the series and the focused too much of their time on jokes. The liore episode is especially bad in Brotherhood.