Haven't seen this big of difference since I've retired from doing this stuff, great vid😊

Those gains are not with the same tune. I get that those turbos were likely starved for flow already but those results are literally impossible without changing the calibration for increased fuel to compensate for the increased airflow.

90whp and 80ftlbs with a manifold swap? How much additional tuning was done after the manifolds were swapped? I feel like a bit more transparency in the tuning process after installation would give some more insight. I have these manifolds on my Gen1 with Powermax Stage 1s and didn't gain anywhere near that power. I must have faulty ones.

@FullRaceTurbo

7 күн бұрын

Full details are found in the write up here: www.full-race.com/resources/blog/Full-Race-Formline-Manifolds-vs-OEM-Log-Style-EcoBoost-3.5L-Back-to%20Back-Dyno-Test Keep in mind the gen 2 power max are much bigger turbos than gen 1 power max

@ProjectAjax

7 күн бұрын

@FullRaceTurbo That makes more sense. The Gen2 Powermax has the potential to flow so much more air. Do you have a favorite Gen1 exhaust? Right now I have a res delete 3" SS SPD pipe welded to stock muffler.

@ProjectAjax

7 күн бұрын

@@FullRaceTurbo Will you be releasing a Gen 1 Formline/Powermax combo Dyno?

@FullRaceTurbo

3 күн бұрын

@@ProjectAjaxdefinitely a possibility. I suppose if the community finds this type of content useful we will consider it!

@ProjectAjax

3 күн бұрын

@FullRaceTurbo I will definitely share it and help get it out there. This type of content def helps the community grow and also helps get people to go beyond tune only to push the platform to the next level. Id love to see these mirroring the B58 platform of growth and push past where we are right now to more turbo options to 4 digit hp builds.

Great work Geoff!

I would have love to seen this done on a bone stock truck

Hard to believe

@FullRaceTurbo

4 күн бұрын

Here's the full write up: www.full-race.com/resources/blog/Full-Race-Formline-Manifolds-vs-OEM-Log-Style-EcoBoost-3.5L-Back-to%20Back-Dyno-Test If you have any questions just let us know - we're happy to help clarify anything!

@blairellis642

4 күн бұрын

Log manifolds are TERRIBLY inefficient. A good manifold like this will really make that turbo sing. This power gain is entirely believable with a good tune.

@FullRaceTurbo

3 күн бұрын

@@blairellis642agreed. there isn’t anything new or ground breaking here. Turbo engines love a good header!

Any plans for 21’ and newer 3.5?

Interesting 👍🏻

Anything for the 2.7?

What if you have a stock truck and you need to replace the factory manifolds but don't plan to do any tuning? Can you swap these out without changing the tune?

@FullRaceTurbo

3 күн бұрын

Yes, with the stock tune these can be swapped in just like any other part. The engine computer does not allow any power adders to increase output without a tune.

Ran them on my truck. Ran out of fuel system the moment boost came on

@FullRaceTurbo

4 күн бұрын

@minnesotawaterneckmiller5430 What was your exact setup and the final boost level / power? Would love to help you get the most out of it!

@minnesotawaterneckmiller5430

4 күн бұрын

@@FullRaceTurbo I had full race manifolds power max turbos stainless works y pipe to a 3 inch cat back. K&Nintake. Nobody in Minnesota wanted to tune it. I used the truck to haul cars for my dealership. First it didn’t like the electric gate. From turbosmart so had to switch to there other one. Then when ever it would make 17psi it would start cutting power.

@minnesotawaterneckmiller5430

4 күн бұрын

@@FullRaceTurbo I’m pretty sure I have data logs for the truck still if you guys want them from my build. I ended up selling the truck. It was becoming a pain.

@FullRaceTurbo

3 күн бұрын

@@minnesotawaterneckmiller5430 the tuning side of these trucks has evolved alot the last couple of years, and the mechanical work is fairly straight forward and well understood at this point. Things have gotten much better for enthusiasts

Damn, that truck is almost too wide for the dyno

When are you guys gonna do some GEN three stuff?

@FullRaceTurbo

4 күн бұрын

Working on it - more updates will be announced soon!

Holy Fawk. If this was true these manifolds would yield the biggest gains for the ecoboost platform beside tuning. I would have figure 10-15 hp 25-30tq on 91 octane. The gains posted here feels like E85 and revised tuning was added to the mix plus the full race manifolds.

@FullRaceTurbo

3 күн бұрын

If you look at the oem ecoboost manifolds it makes a lot of sense. Whether ecoboost 3.5 or 2.0 they are all designed for earliest possible spool and restrictive at increased power levels. Keep in mind we’re on stock fuel system and pretty much maxed on gasoline. Have a plan in place for bigger fuel system and a lot more boost

@nmotionproductions29

3 күн бұрын

@@FullRaceTurbo I appreciate the response! I hope you guys offer a setup for the 2021-2024 Raptors

@FullRaceTurbo

3 күн бұрын

@@nmotionproductions29 its in the works! we are close to releasing more info

@nmotionproductions29

2 күн бұрын

@@FullRaceTurbo Beautiful. I look forward to the upcoming information release.

gen 1 2015 here stock on 93 stock tune i feel i dont need to be faster in a crew cab truck pulls like a train already

@FullRaceTurbo

3 күн бұрын

2013-2016 Gen1 is a great platform, and 2017+ Gen2 are even easier to go faster with!

Is it possible make it more then 700whp i wanna faster then rapter r

@ProjectAjax

8 күн бұрын

F150 ecoboosts making over 850whp and in the 9s in a crew cab 4x4 right now.

@FullRaceTurbo

7 күн бұрын

Yes - the 700+ power level requires rods, pistons, gen 3 crank 4:25, and gen 3 timing chain components

@tyranicalteabagger

5 күн бұрын

@@FullRaceTurbo I assume you have to upgrade both fuel pumps and injectors along with the internals?

@FullRaceTurbo

3 күн бұрын

@@tyranicalteabagger for the 700+ level that is correct and we are building another truck for that power target (motor, trans, fuel, etc). This orange truck in the video here is a 100% stock long block with OEM fuel pumps / injectors / internals - all bolt ons! full details in the writeup here: www.full-race.com/resources/blog/Full-Race-Formline-Manifolds-vs-OEM-Log-Style-EcoBoost-3.5L-Back-to%20Back-Dyno-Test