I worked with a guy in the 1970's who was a Marine. He told me about boot camp and the depiction of it in this movie is an accurate portrayal for that era. One thing I recall him telling me is that when they weren't marching, or engaged in physical training/exercises, they ran. Everywhere and all the time. Moving from any point A to point B, they were required to run. There was a set of stairs they had to ascend in order to get to the mess hall when it was chow time. The word KILL! was printed on every step, just as it was on every single step throughout the entire camp. As the ran up the stairs they had to chant KILL! at the top of their lungs. So yes, there was some mental conditioning taking place.

The guy taking target practice from the helicopter was originally cast in the drill sergeant roll. Ermey was the technical advisor who smoozed his way into the part. It's hard to imagine anyone else performing the character so well. He came by it honestly because he was a DI in the USMC. Best. Leo.

The first part of this movie is a pretty accurate account of Vietnam era basic training. Their logic was they HAD to break the weak so they would react without thought in combat conditions. It is literally the difference between life and death. The actor that plays the Drill Sgt. is R. Lee Ermey was hired as a consultant and was a real life Drill Instructor in the Marines. He didn't like the actor originally hired to play the part so he went to Kubrick and convinced him to give the part to him by going full on Marine D.I. at him and the producers.

@ThatIndieGeekGuy

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that was really interesting to find out, I looked a bunch of stuff up after recording because I enjoyed the film so much. I was tempted to edit in a little thing just to say after sitting with the film for a little bit I feel like I have way more to say about it, however I decided the point of these videos is to give my gut reaction and discussion of it so I just left it as was. Also talked to a friend who was telling me about a friend of his who was in Vietnam which gave me even more to think about both in context of the film and the actual history of the event.

@spacecowboy_1962

3 жыл бұрын

Boot camp was like that when I went through it in 1980. I got busted scratching at sand fleas eating me one day. That night after mail call I got called into the DI's Hut inside the barracks. Was given the option of pain or sweat. I had just showered. Wasnt sure what he meant by "Pain", so I chose it rather than busting my ass doing mountain climbers until I was soaked with sweat. And having to sleep that way. SOB hauled off and threw a right hook into my stomach. Caught me perfect. Knock the wind right out of me. . I dropped to one knee, gasping for air. When I caught my breath I stood up at attention. He was still wearing his campaign cover, so I couldn't see his eyes, but he smirked and just said, get the fk out. Rest of boot, I felt I was treated a little better by him afterwards (3rd Battalion, Paris Island, 1980, PLT 3094) (FMF 1st Bat, 4thMarDiv, 0341)

@davisworth5114

3 жыл бұрын

I'm a Vietnam veteran and Drill Sergeants were not allowed to abuse trainees or use racist language. This movie is a cartoon.

@StinkFingerr

2 жыл бұрын

@Davis Worth I went through Boot Camp in the late 70,s, and it was very much like that, including some of the exact same lingo. The only thing significantly different is they couldn't hit you, unless you hit them first or were threatening.

@Commander-vf1lk

Жыл бұрын

@@davisworth5114 I think cartoon isn’t the right word. To me, it implies this whole movie is a joke. I’d say some were exaggerated but most of the scenes are accurate as it depicts in real life. And again, different experience. People with different or similar stories. Some never did certain things which is why it’s hard to believe. But then again, some movies show a “What if” scenario which is why some had to be displayed even though it never happened to them. Some rules have changed overtime. Some rules aren’t the same & don’t apply in certain states. Some DIs have their own methods. Some did it to prove a point whether it’s for good or bad. I even read others saying he was as real as he can be. Meaning he did those things in boot camp to get his point across. Some of his men even thanked him after they made it out alive. Even if he had illegally done those things. If I were a recruit at that time, I wouldn’t question him or bring him up on illegal actions unless I see it unfit for me. I would’ve understood why he did what he had to do but doesn’t mean I shouldn’t pay attention if he was doing it for fun or because he believes I’m an inferior race. In other words, power abuse. I don’t mind the racial slur, as long as I’m not being picked on for certain things that don’t make sense. Furthermore, you never mentioned if you were a Marine, Army, Navy or Air Force branch.

Pyle treats Joker like he's his dad. Looking at him for approval.

There are some interesting interviews with R. Lee Ermey about 60s boot camps. As the number troops the US government wanted in Vietnam increased the time they were given to train them was drastically shortened. The drill instructors were well aware that any mistakes made in the field would result in deaths so they had to ensure that the recruits _absolutely _*_would not_*_ forget_ what they were taught, and that there was not the time to nicely (even though boot camp isn't the nicest place in the world at the best of times) correct mistakes in a manner that recruits would remember. There is a consensus that Pyle's issues would have been picked up on and he would have been transfered out of boot camp prior to loosing it. Also that every live round issued is counted and accounted for and that although it may gave been possible to smuggle a doughnut back to barracks it would never have been possible for him to do the same thing with live ammunition.

@davisworth5114

3 жыл бұрын

The training time never changed. All countries use these tactics to train soldiers, but abuse and racist language was forbidden.

I was USMC recruit at PI. SC. All I can tell you is dont knock recruit training until youve been in or shoes. There is a reason for the DIs methods. Good or bad.

The military in the 70s was a lot different today. There is no direct physical violence from DIs. Most of the psychological aspects are still there though. Physical activity is used to break people down and build team cohesion. PT can be used for punishment and it can also be used to push recruits past where they think they can go. PT makes you physically and mentally tired which makes you more accepting of conditioning. Another big change is that there is a lot more on identifying guys like "Pile" and removing them from service. I think the movie was trying to show not everyone is suitable for combat service not everyone can adapt and be rebuilt.

This is one of the better breakdowns I've heard. Brilliant. Very thoughtful.

In that era, the Pentagon had a program called Project 100,000, which was to test whether recruits that fell below the normal minimum standards for IQ or mental/physical fitness could be trained and made into effective soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines. The program was variously nicknamed McNamara's Misfits and McNamara's Morons and Private Pyle is clearly intended to represent a person recruited under that program.

I think the point of the marines singing the Mickey Mouse song is to remind you that these marines are just kids. Just months ago, most of these marines were at their high school graduation.

@davisworth5114

3 жыл бұрын

no dummy, this is their response to Vietnam War.

@davidgagnon3781

3 жыл бұрын

@@davisworth5114 That's a very facile theory.

1. I was in the Navy and there were always more than one DI per company. Partially to keep from recruits being abused like this. 2. Vincent D'Onofrio also played THE BUG in MIB. 3. He also gained 70 pounds for this role. 4. "Blanket Parties" are a real thing. We didn't have one because we didn't have a "Gomer Pyle". However, we did have a guy that went to "marching parties" every night. 5. We sang, "I don't know but I've been told Eskimo pussy is mighty cold". (I still do) LOL 5. That "Me so horny" scene was so they could steal that guy's camera. I saw it happen in Thailand once. Before 1987. 6. He's an asshole but 'Mother' is my favorite character. 7. There is way too much blood for effect. Bullet impacts don't produce that much blood. 8. Another great Vietnam war movie to watch that I was briefly in is "Flight of the Intruder." Brad Johnson, Wilem DaFoe and Danny Glover. Written by the same guy as "Under Siege".

War movie?. Dr Strangelove. Worth it just for Peter Sellers.

Because the war was ramping up, bootcamp was cut from thirteen weeks to EIGHT weeks. The drill instructor had eight weeks to get these BOYS who just months ago were in high school ready to kill or be killed in Vietnam. Lee Ermey said because of this fact, the drill instructors did do some things that were illegal. But the purpose was to get these boys to survive. And whenever Stars and Stripes was delivered, the drill instructors would read the obituary column and if any of THEIR boys had been killed, the drill instructors felt responsible.

This is not an exaggeration of Marine Recruit Training during the 1960’s.. at least not from my experience. My sister’s boyfriend had his hand broken by his Drill Instructor after he smashed with a rifle butt for not hitting his targets on the rifle range!

That weight watchers line got me rolling. 🤣 🤣 🤣 👍 ✌️

My understanding of basic training in any service is the analogy of breaking something down so you can put it back together in the manner you choose. I assume that humiliation is one of those techniques intended to achieve this. Best. Leo.

Everybody helped the laggards because the whole platoon finishes so if one man doesn’t make it, the platoon didn’t.

I have to add that no matter how tough basic training is, it will never prepare you for the horror that is war.

I always get a chuckle when someone not in the military comments on our training and how we do it wrong. Yes, you have to be mentally okay with killing a person. We are trained for war...people die in war. If you hesitate you or one of your battle buddies could die. You are still trained on LOAC and given ROE. In terms of basic training you are put in a pressure cooker to learn how to accomplish the mission under duress. Again you are trained for war, you will be shot at and people you live and serve with will die around you. You need to be able to push through whatever the enemy throws at you and accomplish the mission. In terms of punishing the squad for your mistakes: you are a unit, and a unit is only as strong as its weakest member. Getting singled out and the cause for the entire groups punishment is good motivation to not repeat the same mistake. Everyone who has been in basic (myself included) has fucked up and been the cause of everyone getting PT'd. This is also part of the reason why they take away your individuality. Individuals are self preserving and selfish. As a Marine, Soldier, Sailor, or Airman you depend on on your brothers and sisters in arms to risk their life for you. I advise you interact with some Veterans. They will likely be the nicest people you have ever met. We have a dark sense of humor, tease and haze one another, and will do what needs to be done to win the war...but we are not brainwashed blood thirsty savages devoid of empathy.

@ThatIndieGeekGuy

3 жыл бұрын

I apologise if I caused offence, that's not my intention. I have been speaking to people here in the comments and I know people in my life who have served. The first thing I want to say is my reaction and comments are about nothing more but the movie and what it's depicting and how it's depicting it, and it's fictional characters. Not the real world. This video isn't about my views on the real world and the military as a whole (although I try to corelate it to what Stanley Kubrick might think about the real world). Your right I'm not the person to try and say "well this is how it should be done" and nor am I trying to, I just find it an interesting thing to think about, because I understand why the training is the way that it is in real life because war isn't going to be kind, so you have to be ready for that and that's what the training is for. Nor do I think people who serve are a bunch of bloodthirsty monsters, I think they are people who want to do the right thing and serving in the armed forces is how they see themselves doing that which I have nothing but respect for in real life. Like I say my reaction is to how Stanley Kubrick is artistically depicting these things and naturally he exaggerates some things to make a point. Thank you for commenting.

@clitcommander1681

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThatIndieGeekGuy no offense taken, we are a hardy bunch. In normal circumstances you would be correct about our training...a service members duties just require unique standards to be effective.

Was a good reaction but what did you think bootcamp did? Soldiers kill because that's their job. It's awful that such a thing is neccessary but it is

This is a pretty accurate depiction of Marine boot camp, except for one thing. The bulk of your daily interactions are with the ADI's, not the SDI. You really don't deal with the SDI all that much. Other than that, this is pretty much it.

For an interesting film about a troubled and misunderstood veteran returning to the USA after serving in Vietnam I strongly recommend (if you haven't seen it) watching "First Blood". If all you know about the character Rambo is what you have absorbed through pop culture osmosis (which the money grabbing lowest common denominator sequels will be responsible for) then you will be very surprised by the nature of this film.

That was a great reaction, really called alot of it correctly imo

Having been through USMC basic training in the early 80s.. I didn’t like it, but putting a group of people under stress for a long period of time it kinda simulates combat in a way, which makes REAL combat stress easier to handle. Although the individual abuse of Pyle is way out of line, even for the Marines.

Jocker loaded his pants on that shot. I didn't know a teenaged girl could be so sadistic.

6:23 I went to boot camp in 1998 and yes they were still hitting Marines then, although officially the Corps was eliminating corporal punishment and hazing. Also there was an unwritten rule about saying too much about some of these things to family back home. So yeah. One guy got alot of attention from higher channels, news reporters etc simply for telling his family about how our experience compared to this movie. I don't think alot of people get what military basic is because everyone assumes that this movie exaggerated or that things must have changed. Hell I didn't even know what to expect. If I'd seen this movie before I went in I would have.

Well I was in the service and I can relate to this movie.this movie was a true story.

Really good movie but hard to watch. I like that it doesn't glorify war, quite the contrary in showing what training to kill and then having to do it does to young men. R. Lee Ermey was a real (retired) Marine DI and was supposed to be a film consultant but wanted to play the part, and then got it because he was so authentic. A good movie you would probably like is based on a real person and events in WW2, Hacksaw Ridge (2016).

Boot camp... Accurate depiction. The only difference in 2000 boot, no racial slurs or comments and no physical assault. The idea is definitely to break down the person and make them capable of functioning under extreme stress. You have to learn to deal with stress and fear or you will die in combat, and you will get other killed. It's an odd duality in the training as well. Following orders was emphasized, but also they wanted you to be capable of thinking for yourself. Never follow orders that are illegal, if orders don't make sense and/or you have a better plan, speak up... But once a plan has been settled on, and orders given, shut up and do as you are told.

You have to realize a lot of these guys were drafted as well.

@ThatIndieGeekGuy

3 жыл бұрын

In a part i ended up cutting out of the reaction mostly because I just didn't go anywhere with the thought, I did say it's interesting he doesn't say if anyone here was drafted or not

@CinesterCharlie

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThatIndieGeekGuy It's pretty much assumed that most people didn't actually wanna go to Vietnam. I can only assume though.

More Kubrick! Good stuff thank you

You should never call a Marine, a Soldier. Those are two different things. People in the Marines Corps are... well, Marines. Soldiers are people in the U.S. Army. Calling a Marine, a Soldier... insults Soldiers... (as a former Soldier, I jest, of course). From your comments during Boot Camp (Marines go through Boot Camp, Soldiers go through Basic Training), I can tell that you've never been in the Military. This movie is set in the 1960's, so what was permitted then was different from when I went through Basic Training, but only to an extent. The Drill Sergeants couldn't hit, when I went through Basic in the late 80's, but the rest is pretty accurate. Also, despite how things turned out in this movie for the Drill Instructor, punishing the group for the misdeeds of an individual, is effective. It unites the men and teaches them to police their own. You saw it with the blanket party (the scene where they all put bars of soap into a towel and hit Pyle while he was in his bunk). Yes, it looks mean and I can understand how someone who's never been in the military wouldn't/couldn't understand it, but it works. Yes, they are being trained to kill. The purpose of the military is to kill people and break things. If you don't train and condition your Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines to kill people and break things, then you don't have a military. You have Boy/Girl Scouts. Killing is literally their job (during a war, of course). If their job is something other than that, then they are supporting those whose job it is to kill people and/or break things.

@2104dogface

3 жыл бұрын

Well said Brother i went to Ft Benning in 93

@ThatIndieGeekGuy

3 жыл бұрын

Your right I haven't served in any armed forces and that naturally gives me different experiences and a bias. An important thing to note is that everything I say is based on how the movie is depicting it to be. I'm not talking about real life situations (no matter how close to the truth the movie might be) I'm talking about the characters and the story the movie is telling. The movie purposely frames the soap beating as a bad thing with how its shot, edited and then when the fate of the characters involved comes around which also ties directly with the choice to punish the group rather than the individual and that is what my reaction is to. I couldn't give you a true opinion on those things in the real world because I haven't experienced it but my gut reaction to it is that it's personally not something I would subscribe to. I will say I have nothing but respect for those who do serve, and its been great seeing comments from people such as yourself talking about the reality of it all, educating me and talking about how close the movie gets to the truth. Thank you for commenting :)

@31Mike

3 жыл бұрын

​@@ThatIndieGeekGuy The first time I saw this movie, I was 18 and working as an usher at the theater where it was playing. I joined the Army a little less than 9 months later. I won't say that this movie influenced my decision, because I had planned to go into the Army since I was about 13 or 14. Maybe younger. But nothing in this movie would have altered my desire to do so. As for the blanket party (that's what the soap in the towel scene is called... at least in the U.S. Army), It certainly wouldn't be a good thing if you were the one receiving it, but I never saw that scene as being portrayed as a 'bad' thing in general. Not a pleasant thing for Pyle, to be sure. But in real life, sometimes those things were necessary. I was never on the receiving end, nor the giving end of a blanket party, but in Basic Training, I heard a few of them take place a time or two. Nine times out of ten, it was because of someone who was constantly getting others in trouble. One time, a friend of mine got word that he was going to get one (the reason was only because one person didn't like him). So he put his folding shovel under his pillow and waited for them. He successfully fended them off (without actually hitting anyone with the shovel). I'm sure that it sounds 'barbaric', but internal discipline is a valuable tool, as long as it's not taken too far. Remember though, the movie over-dramatized it to make it seem worse than it would be in real life. One of those blanket parties that I heard (it woke me up because it was the guy in the bunk to my right), I talked to him about it and he said that the worst thing about it was being awakened at 2 am (sleep is a cherished thing in Basic Training). He pretty much laughed it off, and certainly didn't go around shooting Drill Sergeants lol. As far as you not being able to give a true opinion, just because you've never been in the military doesn't make your opinion any less valid. Maybe a little less informed, since you wouldn't have the personal experience, but that doesn't make your opinion any less valuable. I think I heard you say something about "Jarhead"? Did I hear you right? I had to cut out for a phone call about half way through your reaction, but I'm going to finish it later. Anyway, "Jarhead" is actually a nickname for the Marines. It can tend to be 'fighting words' though, unless said in a kidding/rib-poking sort of way, like the way a Soldier would talk smack with a Marine. The Marine might call a Soldier a "Dogface" or a "Grunt" while the Soldier would call the Marine a "Jarhead". All in good fun, of course. We might tend to fight amongst ourselves, but we always have each other's backs. I know I'm writing a book here, but if you've read this far, let me encourage you to watch Band of Brothers (and Saving Private Ryan). Both are WWII and both are great (Band of Brothers being a 10 part mini-series). If I hadn't already seen both many times, I'd react to them. But if you do, you'll likely pick up some subs and some good view numbers. Of course, that's assuming you haven't seen them before.

@31Mike

3 жыл бұрын

@@2104dogface I went to Fort Jackson for Basic in '88 then Fort Gordon for AIT (31Mike is... was, my MOS). My brother was stationed at Benning for a few years, back in the mid 80's.

@2104dogface

3 жыл бұрын

@@31Mike yeah even when i was in we had a guy get a blanket party, but they didn't use soap, they used softer items as not to leave bruises. and i 2nd Band of Brothers great show and having met many of the org Vets from that unit i always enjoy seeing people learn about them.

One of my favorite first halves of a movie of all time

Other excellent Vietnam War films that you should check out: We Were Soldiers, Platoon, and Hamburger Hill. I highly recommend all three of them.

The movie you mention at the begining (The one that has the protagonist with his eyes wide open) its "A Clokwork Orange"

It's the Marine Corps not the Boy Scouts!

If you are a member of the United States Air Force, Navy, Marines, or Army, and you expect the men or women to analyze the emotions or micro-understand, if you will, the decisions of those in command than you will not be able to do your job effectively. You are there, where ever you are, you are there for the soldier next to you, & you are there for the life, liberty, & freedom of those at home. YOU do not have a right to criticize the decisions of any soldier until you've walked a mile in his ' boots '...

Subbed - if you're going through Kubrick films I hope to someday see Doctor Strangelove and Barry Lyndon. : ) Also two films I would like to recommend about command in war are Twelve O'Clock High (1949) and Caine Mutiny (1954).

@ThatIndieGeekGuy

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, both for the sub and the suggestions :)

Better to fail in training than in battle

Just be aware that at any moment one of those innocent civilians may blow you away -- or one of your buddies. Even women and Children will possibly kill you. You see that a few too many times, you get guys like that door gunner -- "Anyone that runs is a VC. Anyone who stands still is a well disciplined VC."

iconic movie by stanley kubrick!!!

Fun Fact: R. Lee Ermey (the drill instructor) was a drill instructor in real life when he served in the Marines. Another actor was originally cast for the role and Ermey was brought on as a consultant. The original actor apparently sucked and they put Ermey into the role and made it much more authentic for the time. Also, they did have to break them down and prepare them to be ok with killing because thats exactly what they'd be going to do....killing in war. Its done a bit differently now but the idea is still there. Especially in the beginning of the movie when hes having Pyle choke himself for smiling. You cant have soldiers laughing at their instructor and not taking things seriously. Its a bit excessive but at the same time, its a "wipe that f'n smile off your face" type of action...literally.

I recomend forrest gump if you havent seen that already, or tropic thunder its a real good parody of these types of movies and Hollywood in general.

@ThatIndieGeekGuy

3 жыл бұрын

I have seen Forest Gump, but I wouldn't be averse to doing a video on it in the future. Tropic Thunder I've not watched since it came out so that could be fun.

I did basic army training in the early 90’s. It wasn’t as bad as this but it was still a horrible experience.

The whole film was filmed in England

While you are thinking about the right and wrong of war, some woman or child will blow you away. And then you would "be in a world of shit because marines are not allowed to die without permission."

Vietnam had the draft. So yes, you're right that Pile shouldn't be there...but he didn't have a choice. Puts another layer on top of the analysis, doesn't it?

@luvlgs1

2 жыл бұрын

weren't the marines a volunteer army. ?

Kubrick has done at least three other war movies. Paths of Glory (1957), Dr. Strangelove (1964), and Barry Lyndon (1975). I'm purposely leaving out Spartacus. Best. Leo.

@ThatIndieGeekGuy

3 жыл бұрын

I have since learned this since watching this and looking up his other films I need to take a look at, so that's egg on my face haha

@michaelbastraw1493

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThatIndieGeekGuy It can be wiped off and is good for the skin. Invincible ignorance is not so kind. Best. Leo.

@sammacdaibheid

3 жыл бұрын

Paths of Glory is so underrated. That ending.

@slowerthinker

3 жыл бұрын

As an older Kubrick film that is in B&W Paths of Glory hasn't been seen by nearly as many people as this film, but the few that have seen it all rate it very highly.

@randolphwhite3406

3 жыл бұрын

@@sammacdaibheid Absolutely not Paths of Glory is considered to be one of the best films ever.

9:01 .....No he didn't.... He said that, to him, they're are all the same pile of worthless shit, and he's being treting them exactrly like that...

You need to figure out a different way of editing the movie. If you look at other reaction videos they actually have the movie running all the time but they managed to pause it so it's not a copyright issue. Your method is to just leave it blank and let people wait for you to turn it back on.

The only correct thing you said is that you don't know anything about the Vietnam war and the military in general.

I don't remember if that hat is an 80s movie producer, or an 80s movie. Robocop, was it? Terminator? I absolutely saw that G before... 🤔

If you want to see an authentic depiction of the Vietnam War, watch "The Anderson Platoon". (Marc Levy cut) As a Vietnam veteran, I think this film is a bit cartoonish. Learning to kill does not always destroy a soldiers' moral character and soldiers are bound by the rules of war. You say these guys are too happy to be there, fact is that most GIs in Vietnam kept a "short-timers" calendar and started crossing off the days as soon as they arrived. Army Drill Instructors were not allowed to verbally or physically abuse a trainee, and any racial comments were strictly verboten.

Why did I here joker say no in a different voice

They’re not soldiers. They’re marines. Every marine would correct you on that.

Who did the drill sergeant discriminate against? My understanding of the term does not bear that out. He's an equal-opportunity ballbreaker. Best. Leo.

@ThatIndieGeekGuy

3 жыл бұрын

Oh that's my point I was trying to make but it might not come across, he is discriminateing against them all as individuals, be it their beliefs or race or whatever but as a way to get them all on the same page.

@michaelbastraw1493

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThatIndieGeekGuy He is, quite specifically and intentionally, using whatever particularly degrading stereotyping he can. As insults go, sometimes they can hit the mark, which is intended. Best. Leo.

Hacksaw Ridge by Mel Gibson is an awesome war movie and true story

Y does he cut out all the best parts and explanations? Jw

@ThatIndieGeekGuy

3 жыл бұрын

I had problems with copyright claims on this one, mostly to do with the music so I had to re-edit around that. It's unfortunate that I couldn't have it up the way I originally had it, but ultimately this video isn't about me uploading the movie. What are some of the parts you referring to out of interest?

@stephenjones4182

3 жыл бұрын

Some of the stuff where the drill Sgt. Replies and the part where he promotes joker to squad leader on the part where he insult/hit him for not believing in the virgin mary. Btw good reaction. And the soap in socks beating was a real thing but your right it is extremely messed up.

@ThatIndieGeekGuy

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenjones4182 So as part of trying to avoid copyright issues, the video getting blocked places ect ect as well as avoiding music I try to keep the movie clip time low as I can. So in my original cut the Virgin Mary clip was there in its entirety but I cut it down for time. The scene with joker getting promoted I toyed with leaving in because your right its a good plot point however I didn't have a reaction/something to say about it at the time so it was just a shot of me watching the screen as it played so again for clip time purposes I had to take it out. Generally my point of view is if people are watching this they know the movie well enough, so I can make those sacrifices, even when I really don't want to haha but I'm still new to making this content, with plenty of stuff to learn about how people watch it. Thank you for taking the time to comment :)

Reaction videos are more entertaining when the reactor doesn’t talk constantly.

watch monty python marching up and down the square

@ThatIndieGeekGuy

3 жыл бұрын

I have seen it, all be it a long while back. I must admit it didn't come to mind while watching this, maybe it should have haha

Saving Private Ryan another great movie and must watch.. as for this being like today's drill sergeants ,Basically yes it depends on the drill sergeant also.. and where you go to Boot Camp..East Coast Boot Camp this is basically spot on.. They rarely hit ,, unless you push them enough..I personally seen a drill sergeant smack a guy ..It happened the first day or two... Remember alot of people that join the military We're either go to jail and do time or the judge says you can go to the military to straighten up..A few People I got to know actually had to make that Decision and this is less than 15 years ago , I'm sure it's still happening... So yes alot of these guys are messed up and need a firm hand ...Most of them straighten up within the first couple days... Then realize what they gotten into.. i am sure it still happens today go to jail or go to Serve the military.. Who wouldn't choose the military

@ThatIndieGeekGuy

3 жыл бұрын

Unless I'm mistaken at this time people were also conscripted? It's interesting that Kubrick doesn't detail how each of them found them self's here but also reinforces my idea that he wants us to see them as a unit who are being treated the same way.

The Things you said and thought was mostly wrong. The first thing is everything the drill instructor did was a part of train not to teach them to kill but to think, operate and ignore in stressful situations . even the insults help you not to react to them only to react when the time is right. also The reason why the military killed civilians is because the Country asked for them to help but the people where kill , steeling and deceiving the military when they got there. So the trust between the military personnel and the civilians became a conflict of interest. when you don't see the people who asked for your help not only do they not fight but they also harm you .... Remember the American people pressured the military to help Vietnam then turned on them when the Vietnamese started to want the military out of their country. I feel bad for them .

BTW they are not soldiers they are Marines!

Firstly, the boot camp half of the movie is entirely accurate with the exception of the physical contact and the swearing. Drill instructors are no longer allowed to strike recruits or use profanity ... but back during Viet Nam, anything goes. Secondly, the female sniper that they killed was the hooker that said "Me love you long time" ... that's why one of them said "No more boom-boom for this babysan"

Film is definitely too quiet. Can't discern dialogue.

I'm getting the image that you're made out of a hundred pounds of chewed bubble gum.

If you're going to do that much thinking and questioning, you would have no business in Vietnam. Or any war, really. My uncle was at Normandy beach, where wave after wave of soldiers charged into machine gun fire and certain death.

I just have one last comment which is I am glad that our freedoms rely on people with backbones not couch potatoes.

Semper Fi

Getting that worked up over a blanket party, it was a common motivation technique up until the early 80s. Still happens just requires more creativity now days to get by with it. In my day, they used to just 'help' you down the stairs the hard way. That way wounds are consistent with a fall. I'm sure now you've got to get even more creative, but I'm sure there is a way they do it. All your hand wringing, you don't understand that the whole point is to give you what you need to make it back home.

Why aren't most of these reactors not laughing hysterically and the bootcamp portion of this film.. It's hilarious...

He said he shot a kid I wouldn't be to happy tf you better would have also

I'm a 20 year veteran as was my father. I dont have time to explain what is effective in making a solider. Here is a veteran reacting to the same movie you did. Maybe he will explain it better than I can. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aayVtNCgm7PdntY.html And he never discriminated anyone. They are all equally worthless. This is one of the most effeminate reviews I've ever seen a man give. A Vietcong sniper shoots an American soldier and your response is, "I'm not sure where my sympathies should be. Maybe duality is the theme of the movie." Really?

@ThatIndieGeekGuy

3 жыл бұрын

Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti armed forces or anything like that. Everything I say here in the video is in relation to what Stanley Kubrick is doing in the movie, not in relation to reality or the actual event because I wasn't there for that I can't form an opinion of that in the same way . I also don't have first hand experience of boot camp or any combat situation so naturally that will give me a bias and anyone who has had those experiences will have thiers which is fine. In terms of what I see this movie doing I see that it's grounded in as much truth as Stanley Kubrick see's it to be, and to me Kubrick is expressing exactly what I'm saying, that boot camp is hard and harsh but serves a purpose and it's certainly not for everyone, as for Vietnam that's a whole other thing. My sympathy is absolutely with the amarican's being in a horrible situation, but there is a bigger picture to take into account where the sniper is concerned, especially when it's revealed to be a young girl which is a very deliberate choice by Kubrick to get the audience thinking , how did she get there, was she an actual combatant or a scared civilian, why did she make the choices she did to get there ect ect . I'm sorry if I caused offence that's absolutely not the intention, I'm just here to watch movies and respond to them. I have since seen a couple of videos of veteran's watching the movie and it's some really interesting stuff and naturally they see things in it that someone like me is never going to see, also I spoke to a friend of mine who was telling me about a friend of his who was in Vietnam which also has given me more insight into what the mentally at the time was. Thank you for commenting :)

Bro I love your passion for Stanley Kubrick. He is a very unique director, but his films have way too many layers that can leave you trying to understand one piece for hundreds of years. Don't get too lost into that downward spiral. His films are Masonic in nature and it's too complex for any of us to truly grasp. You looking to become a director in Hollywood?

Your reaction sucked. For not knowing much about that war you had a lot negative things to say about it. Wether we should of been there or not is up for debate for sure, but to talk down on the action of men sent there without knowing the scope of what they had to go through while there is pretty shallow. There were many tactics the Vietnamese used that were ways worse then what the Americans were doing.

@ThatIndieGeekGuy

3 жыл бұрын

You are of course aloud to take what you will from this video and my reaction, I would just like to point out my reaction is to the movie and what it is depicting and how it is depicting it, not the real life situations and events that happened. Yes your right, my overall opinion about war is that it's a bad thing hence why I view it negatively, but please don't mistake that for me blaming or hating armed forces personnel in real life, my reaction is based solely on the fictional characters in this movie. As for the tactics used in the Vietnam war I'm sure your correct that both sides had questionable ones, but the film isn't about that, atleast as far as I can see. I apologise if the video is an offence to you in some way but thank you for commenting.

Thanks for your weak politically correct reaction...