Full Episode - To Catch A Killer - Ep 102 Cold Case: Margaret McWilliam
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A small-town girl who had just moved to the big city of Toronto is on her regular evening jog in Warden Woods Park, when she is dragged from the path, beaten, raped and strangled to death. More than 26 years later, police still have not found her killer. Michael Arntfield and his team work hard to ease the anguish of Margaret’s aging parents by approaching the case with their fresh perspective and use of modern technology.
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I don't understand all the criticism to the series, at the very least what they are doing is to bring out into the public interest and to the television, cases that most people had forgotten about, making them "less cold" so to speak, these victims and families need justice, and often what happens is that the killer is dead or in jail and witnesses and even family members are now less afraid or are even free to speak out after years of silence, sometimes even new witnesses show up, because at the time they were not aware for some reason about the crime or that they saw something relevant . TV series such as this one are important and relevant even if " staged" like so many on the comments accuse them. What I like here is that they don't say names or show horrendous pictures of the crime scenes. They respect the victim and the family and know that they can not say names and accuse someone that only the law can act upon and put at risk a possible accusation. They try to help the police solve a crime and try to examine it again with new fresh eyes.
@crunchies4me
4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree!!! Unfortunately all to often these psychos get out early or are given a lighter sentence in which they can walk free and continue their crimes. I don't understand why the court system gives a set time yet always seem to let the monsters get out after a fraction of the time served. For example, If they are sentenced to 20 to life unless evidence comes up proving that they indeed are innocent the courts involved should stick to that.
@DavidPackluvr
4 жыл бұрын
I could not agree with you more than I do!! Perhaps only those who have tragically & suddenly lost our beloved ones can understand. 💜🙏💜
@ergyssulo1246
3 жыл бұрын
Everyone deserve justice...I'm so happy for the family of the victims that in the end take answers for their loved ones
@mirriulahwaterdog
3 жыл бұрын
They are really only TV people making a legitimate quid for themselves through the medium of unsolved and outrageous crime. In another example they would all be some sort of psychics.
@tfulch3715
2 жыл бұрын
They are just trying to revisit the case and look at modern advances to try and make sense of what happened. It states at the beginning of the programme, so viewers know what the show is about. I find the episodes insightful and they sensitively review data, I have no complaints, it's worth watching and highlights cases that may give the victims families hope again.
I love the way they pull cases apart and analyse every little detail and then bring everything together again. They are excellent at what they do. Thank you guys and girls.
I’m from Kitchener so hearing about all these cold cases for the first time and especially around my area has me glad to learn about the history of what’s occurred and grateful to this show for shining light by reminding everyone about these forgotten people and bringing new eyes to these cases. 👏
@Rose-lq4kj
Жыл бұрын
I’m in Waterloo and obsessed with these
I’ve only watched this show a few times... But as a child of a MURDERED MOM.... There is something about “MONTY”.... That I really like... You can SEE his compassion for helping people... The PAIN that MURDER causes... NEVER goes away.... NEVER 💔💔 I pray for all the families that are hurting.... HEAL THEM LORD 🙏🏼
@MrJohanOne
2 жыл бұрын
It's an fezlung that we can't understand until we experience it. For the people, life goes on around you but for you it's a lifetime memories that will never fade away. I feel that.
Would like to see a follow-up about whether the police they gave the info to got a conviction.
Your job is NOT to make bad things happen to bad people! If that is what youthink you should NOT be a cop!!
@nikifreeman9985
7 жыл бұрын
LuckyShitZu he is also a criminologist stupid and ya making justice happen to bad ppl ya that is his job to find the bad ppl and put them away cop job
@purple-nq3zd
6 жыл бұрын
...you people are too friggin literal...YES IT IS his job to make "BAD things happen to "BAD" people..thank goodness there are people out there doing this....Bad things like being tried, convicted and punished for his crime...unfortunately for us in Canada the ultimate "BAD" would be they are executed... but we don't have that option of that "BAD" thing happening to disgusting brutal sexual killer...what the hell do you think he means by "BAD things?...maybe losing his sock in the laundry?...geez, get over your darn selves!!!
@rob_3417
5 жыл бұрын
@@nikifreeman9985 shut up and feed your cats
I think this series is awesome it’s like cold case series and how they get justice for victims.....
once someone kills they should never , ever be released into the public domain again, good job guys :D
@traceyaz125
5 жыл бұрын
diankral2000 no they shouldn’t, they should be dead.
@c_huskerfan1814
20 күн бұрын
Does that include self defense? Just asking because I also believe if you kill somebody you should never be let out if it is not a lawful act to defend yourself or you family.
It’s worst when you just don’t know what happened and your daughter has been missing since 1985.
I’m loving this series so far but the only thing is I wish they would have updates on if the case was solved
She was such an innocent girl and for this to happen to a person like her (although to anyone is just as bad) is devastating....her poor mum and dad I really felt for them..
I am watching a couple of episodes, but no solving. Supposedly turned over to police, but we never hear the results. Four years later and no results from police? I googled for updates and there are none. I am disappointed that no solves.
Oh my. I am so gratefull for their work. Andmsobbing for her parents. God bless them all
I truly command this guy to have determination and as he said to be reinvigorated and reinvigorate this case. I have watched lots of cold cases in United State that a dedicated detective with fresh energy and different perspective begin investigation a cold case and eventually bring some justice and closures to the victims family. If American can do it. So can we.
@rationallyruby
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah America does take cold cases pretty seriously. We’ve got a lot of issues but they do have some pretty great databases and have gotten really good with interstate communication in the last few decades which has helped solve thousands of unsolved cases.
Lol ok this has to be a teacher running simulator cases with his students for training...
I feel so bad for the parents.
Fantastic show
Still unsolved. I remember this as a kid. The area never recovered. We lived about 5-10mins away at warden and danforth. People stopped travelling in the area, the malll was basically abandoned after that. Was scary. Paul Bernardo didnt kill until Karla, as far as we know and U of T Scarb campus no where near this location. Doubtful was Williams
Wait.... Did he say he is or was a cop and also said it's his job to make sure bad things happen to bad people? No no no boo boo... It's your job to make sure Justice is served. You don't get to make bad things happen.
@summersojourner
4 жыл бұрын
Jason Grimes or, that his job is to investigate and identify the bad guys which then sets in motion the bad things, i.e., prosecution, conviction, and then incarceration. I guess it depends upon your perspective.
Thanks for your crystal clear upload... great job 👌🏼👍🏼
why didn't the police make that connection and save years of anguish for the parents?
@loris466
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it should have been immediately noted by police. At least reopening the case enabled them to get the killer's DNA. Although they haven't found a match yet, they still could.
@horsegirlb7120
4 жыл бұрын
It's possible the computer program they ran it through wasn't available at the time
That composite looks like Phil Lynott from Thin Lizzy.
This show rules
Thank you so much for what you do!!
The geographic profiler is the love child of Spock and Sulu. 🖖
Evidently it's laundry day, and dude needed to borrow his little brother's Polo 👕 lol it's CLEARLY an entire three or four sizes too small. 🤣
I wish I could find more of these episodes
Well done.
a convicted murderer and their victims names are a matter of public record. why are these names getting beeped?
@danielueblacker9118
4 жыл бұрын
because if some good person sees this video and then goes out with a baseball bat and kills the person.... legal crap. if that someone could stomp on this guy's head and liver....
Whenever someone is murdered they will always be lost in time, stuck within the day they died and bound with no way to move on. Until the cases are solved and people take responsibility for their crimes. Many will people have unsolved cases and will never be able to pass on
@BlueKungFu
8 жыл бұрын
+Sizxer Henrī Kopurikku It's okay, I think you'll find that's your opinion rather than fact. Murdered people have already passed on; they are dead. It's the family members left behind that suffer.
@katcampbell954
8 жыл бұрын
+Sizxer Henrī Kopurikku Why do you say that? Don't you believe in heaven or hell? You must believe in reincarnation to say that? Why believe in an afterlife and then throw in a comment that the devil makes God wait based on the evil he caused. Why would God make people wait for heaven? Makes no sense.
@joyceelement5876
7 жыл бұрын
Kat Campbell Seriously not everyone believes in the Religious beliefs you mentioned! I personally don't believe in any of the things you stated why does everything have to be about religion? I agree everyone has a right to comment and have their comment respected!
The convicted killer they didn't want to mention is James Marr
@Halotest100
7 жыл бұрын
Who did James Marr Murder? I cannot find anything on him or his victim.
@OntarioColdCases
7 жыл бұрын
James Marr was convicted in 1994 of the May 16, 1992 murder of Martha Watson McKinnon. Her body had been found behind an apartment against a fence. She had been beaten, strangled and sexually assaulted.
Just found out about this.. I live across the street from Warden Woods park.
@richmoney9348
3 жыл бұрын
I lived in fir valley, i remember seeing this on the front page of The Sun!
Sorry but some of their assumptions are very presumptive, like when Monty said that Margaret didn’t know her attacker but the lady who was raped did. First, the lady who was raped had been introduced to him that day and how would he know if Margaret knew her attacked or not? She’s dead.
It's very disappointing that they don't follow through with the investigation, and just end it leaving us hanging.
It’s 1987 and they have the number of shoes sold in the area... can’t they look up at least some of those purchases? Credit cards/checks were still popular back then...
Interesting show. Somewhat in the vein of Cold Justice but with better results from what I've seen, so far.
I was shocked when he told the parents that the murderer had been paroled !!!!! I had not realized it happened in Canada . He would have gotten the death penalty in some US A States . I am not for it , but I am not against it either
@rationallyruby
4 жыл бұрын
The US is too hard on non violent offenders on charges like drugs but serial murders should never be paroled!
Omg. That poor girl.
I am really crying for the old couple. They same to have slim hope to finally and forever find out who brutally raped and murdered their beloved daughter. I believe that no homicide case must go unanswered. Everyone deserves closure.
OK Im watching this series for the first time-expecting results-none-where the information goes they've collected I dont know but they dont solve any cases-these families deserve results-my only salvation is God knows the who and why but while here on this earth it doesnt help the families--please just help solve one case
@Robocamp19
6 жыл бұрын
Bett Pike totally agree, they don't solve any and when or if they do pass on info, we never see a follow up
@maureenhastings2156
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, It doesn't work like that. Cold cases are a bitch, any development that can be offered will move the case forward. This is real life, not CSI Miami
@danielueblacker9118
4 жыл бұрын
@@maureenhastings2156 No my friend... with those sunglasses....
Warden Woods Park just sounds like a place you'd want to stay away from.
@A-pm7fr
7 жыл бұрын
Max Coller I live across the street from it lol. It's a decent area.
@kerrbear1980
3 жыл бұрын
The ravine (warden woods/taylor creek) is actually quite pretty. Not dangerous
They had to have been local, he knew the pärk.
They cleared Bernardo pretty quickly. Why was there no information on Russell Williams?
Are there any updates to any of the cases?
Why don't they run DNA against Marr, or did they not save the sample from the victim, I'm thinking they did not, smfh
Hope they get THE pepertrader. And i am sorry for THE familys loss 💝💝🍒🍒
It’s so frustrating to watch these to the end because there is never a real resolution.
I lived in the area when I was 10 in 95 and went threw warden woods a lot and it is nothing today like it was then. I walked this path 3 days ago including the path where Margaret was found and I think the killer would of ran straight up the hill out onto Warden ave other then walk straight out of the park entrance. I also think the type of shoe and the hat the man was wearing in the sketch doesnt match the style you would be wearing in 87 if you had those types of shoes you weren't wearing that type of hat and visa versa.
Was this story ever followed up on?
@TK-tf9bw
6 жыл бұрын
don't think it was
Could look to see what stores carried that bränd of shoe in 1987 sīnce onlŷ 300 pairs where sold and where that shoe was shipped by the bar code ôr number.
@OntarioColdCases
7 жыл бұрын
It was done, and narrowed even further than that. There was a Bata Outlet store (Bata was the brand of shoe) right in Warden Woods Mall, which is very close to the murder scene, that had sold seven pairs. Apparently there was no luck.
@A-pm7fr
7 жыл бұрын
Jay Nicoll Where is Warden Woods mall? Is it still called that? I live in the area and have never heard of it.
@georgeucos9650
6 жыл бұрын
It became The Warden Power Centre sometime in the mid-nineties and by 2005 was demolished. A housing development now sits on the former site.
@marklittler784
5 жыл бұрын
Suppose the Police could put out APB for the shoes...
@marklittler784
5 жыл бұрын
Tell shoe shops to keep them when somebody comes to change them for new shoes ?
To many "censored", lost all links of the story
@jimmyohara2601
3 жыл бұрын
Hey, you spelt too wrong. eg,- Too many to go. Get the gist ?
Why do people do this to other people!! Such EVIL! Those parents 💔💔💔💔
He's not confident because he said he couldn't find where the foot impression was?😂
R.I.P. x
Oof. You could tell the dad had heard they'd be able to solve this case before. Poor guy. 😔
Now he's checking other cases.
Sounded like the killer took her headphones as a trophy, it they were missing.
Read the file.
If there has been any DNA collected I know that science is now able to determine the probable alleles (ethnicity, hair color, gender, eye color, and even identify certain genetic traits and diseases). Wouldn't that help?
The mullet gives me total confidence in this team ... it’s like Captain Planet in real life
I dont understand bleeping names and things out? Thats kinda stupid. However, I hope people who watch and have information call in.
The Paris psychiatrist should not have shown the woman the sketch of the black man. It breeds bias she should have just showed the Hat.
Oh god this made me cry!
If she had no drag marks, no defensive wounds, he either had to get her from behind and strangle her... or my guess is that he used Ether or some drug to knock her out. It would help if they could tell whether or not the sexual assault was pre or post death. If it was pre-death he drugged her, if it happened post death he obviously strangled her first.
I'm not saying this show is perfect but why do people assume things are like they see on TV? Things do not get solved in a few weeks. This show is all about providing a new LEGITIMATE avenue for cold case detectives to pursue in order to re-ignite the case and hopefully lead to a conviction or at least to more avenues they can pursue. Nothing is worse in a case where you have ran down all of your leads. With that said his line about making bad things happen to bad people is definitely showmanship and that actually DID bother me. I think that's probably a line fed to him by a producer or possibly a line that was in poor taste created by him. It actually gives me a visual of a corrupt cop, which he doesn't seem like he is. So I just think its a bad choice of words. TL;DR: Good show providing leads to re-open cases gathering dust. I recommend.
Do the moral thing whether or not, it's what the law says. Shame on the other cops not standing by Steve, it might have made a difference.
Did you actually tell the family of the victim the possible suspect’s name, or did you bleep it?
who if anyone was released from prison over the 3 month period prior too the murder
Could the attacker see into her basement flat. Is it thought that he may have stalked her from her flat like a peeping tom.
Karla and Bernardo! This is Scarborough, hence those two! I would disregard the composite!
@katerilevasseur8119
4 жыл бұрын
Joyce Yagoda St-Catherine's actually
So, first the clothes are "carefully" piled up near the victim, and 20 minutes later the clothes are "scattered around" just like the ones from other victim. Interesting. You definitely are taking us for fools.
I just feel for the family and getting their hopes up if it doesnt pan out...and its a little too slick and dramatic for my taste
@26:00 dang, talk about profiling, what’s she going to say next he eats chicken and watermelon, Air Jordan II knockoff, looks more like a boxing sneaker to me but they’re not really showing the entire profile of the shoe so it’s hard to tell. Did I miss something or did they ever say how or who provided the details for the composite sketch?
@BLAZENYCBLACKOPS
5 жыл бұрын
Ok, so after seeing the sneaker a bit more I can see the similarity to the AJ II, and I was only joking about the profiling part because after all that’s exactly what they’re doing, creating a fashion profile.
I don't like the way he talks to his experts and the fact that he never smiles while talking to them. He seems cold and arrogant. After watching two episodes I need to get warm.
So a discount "Hip-Hop" killer?
Why dont you use familia DNA, seen they have a profile
No smae person wastn't wêäring tht cap and shoe they would be two different people.
Danya Dixon 🔥
Anybody know the name / picture of the suspect they eventually came up with?
@vadaharris4855
3 жыл бұрын
Someone else commented that it was James Marr
So....to catch a killer....but no one is caught. It is most definitely NOT a police officers job to make sure that bad things happen to bad people. That is the type of mentality that gives cops a bad name. Officers are here to protect and serve, they are not vigilantes. The shows theatrics are ok, but nit much actual substance.
She didn't have the muscle to fight him off. The serious of brutality I think came from realizing he was in wide open area. I think it scared him. He needed her shut up, put down asap! Panicking back then it was bell bottoms and stilts with a hat like that. The guy that did this takes control, likes the fact he can put you down. He walks away a winner in his mind. Been rejected. He don't fight with men physically. Serious anger, over kill, resentment. Bottled up hate.
@rationallyruby
4 жыл бұрын
The killer most likely had a terrible and cruel mother and had a horrible relationship with her.
@bettyamorris3742
4 жыл бұрын
@@rationallyruby not enough evidence to suggest why any man rapes a woman. I think most just resent their lives. Never learned to take control of their own destiny. So they take out their self hate of not getting handed a silver spoon ( sit on their asses all day and bitch at others that worked to get an education a EARNED their wealth). You want something?? GET A JOB, EDUCATION OR A SUGAR MOMMA YOU CAN USE. I refuse to be a sugar momma that is used by a young punk that refuses to find his own self respect.
Might be deAngelo?
anyone else laugh at that drawing , serious we have one lead.......... jazz band guy
if ya dont know where a footprint was compared to the body what do ya really know about its relevance?
@jeffreymanestar5319
2 жыл бұрын
It was found imprinted on the victims body. Held her down standing on her while strangling her.
Why all the beeping out names??? Those names are public records. They were in the newspaper for Pete’s sakes.
@petej8556
4 жыл бұрын
These guys are doing a Civilian Investigation. They don't have the legal authority to publicly name someone who is just Suspected of a crime! Not actually Convicted! If it were actually legal to make such statements anyone could publicly accuse anyone of whatever they wanted without any repercussions.
@rationallyruby
4 жыл бұрын
Ana Arredondo by Design, Welcome Home because that leads to vigilante justice... they don’t want to be liable for anything.
Didja notice the team's table looks like a homemade coffin? Just sayin'!
It was OK, but I do prefer cold justice.
Did they ever catch him ?
@Nitarakaf
7 жыл бұрын
Don't think so www.insidetoronto.com/news-story/6499565-police-closer-to-solving-mystery-of-who-killed-scarborough-s-margaret-mcwilliam-in-1987/
Why do u hide their face
Cut from the same cloth, geez cant stand this voice!!
Is this some kid of reality show? so disrespectful to the victim's family if it is. Not watching it aynymore
Whatever you, don't come back and tell us that the perpetrator had to be black. You would be pissing me off if you say that. I hope you right and would find the sob that murdered that poor woman. Also, don't give me to be continued.
What a BS. Looking for foot print in the forest 28 years after to check out for biometrics?!!!
Although this is clearly scripted this nigga cashing in on doing what I wish my taxes did so fuckit good show
who cares