Air vents have an overpressure. 2 kg for regular and 20 for high pressure gas vents. When using liquids to create infinite storage, keep the mass of liquid under the weight of the gas vent overpressure to prevent flooding status.

@engineertroy_

9 күн бұрын

Ah, that totally makes sense now! I can't believe I didn't make the connection after coming to that number through testing.

I really enjoy listening to your explanations! Very Clear, Concise and not over bearing with information.

@engineertroy_

9 күн бұрын

Thanks! I try my best!

Very noice, i got back into this game and built my first Rodriguez a few days but that was at cycle 25, i done it way to early i realised so it sits there as a relic. And now this design comes into light, brilliant game.

@engineertroy_

11 күн бұрын

I’ve done that too! 😂

Side note, if you try to build one in an already vaccumed room, do not use polluted water as the bottom layer, use brine or salt water instead🥲

@engineertroy_

11 күн бұрын

Very true. Thanks for adding that. 😊

@yaki_ebiko

11 күн бұрын

@@engineertroy_ mistakes were made

@engineertroy_

10 күн бұрын

Oof. Hopefully it wasn’t too bad.

@yaki_ebiko

10 күн бұрын

@@engineertroy_ Just need to re vaccum the box, nothing too bad, but I do learn to treat polluted water a bit more careful aince that

Thank you so much. I finally found a video that can help me.

@engineertroy_

3 күн бұрын

Glad it helped

I'd have never imagined somebody would make the Rodriguez better! 🤯

@insomnia2411

10 күн бұрын

Not a Rodriguez design

@yeetdabeans3883

10 күн бұрын

Not a rodriguez

@DreamingBlindly

10 күн бұрын

This is not a Rodriguez since it's a flooded one and actually doesn't need balancing.

I have used the single electro dumping air out in so many bases its phenomenal and way easy to add more 'nodes' enjoying looking at this hefty beast too

Very good, I like it! I've using the horizontal version of the Hydra (O2 on top and H2 on bottom) for a while now (9 tiles tall or equivalent to 2-4-tile floors) H2 feeds to a separate room that's a power plant and that powers up the entire base (for the corresponding Achievement). The water to be split is piped across the O2 chamber to try to cool it down a bit using a bunch of radiant pipes, it works very nice as the O2 is a dash higher than 30 °C, which can be later cooled down by other means. There is a ante-chamber on the side that contains a couple of mechanical filters, a water tank and a H2 tank as backups, with a liquid drop and a door, so the whole thing is serviceable and expandable (horizontally). I remembered reaching 1000 kg of pressure in the O2/H2 chambers in my later games.

@engineertroy_

9 күн бұрын

Thanks 😊

I definitely enjoy hydras don’t get me wrong, but as of late I have been leaning more towards brute force mechanical filtering, which is equally as cheeky in terms of breaking the game, just more easily scaled

@engineertroy_

6 күн бұрын

You talking about the method using bridges and a gas valve? I haven’t messed with that much as it seems like it can break fairly easy.

I recommend making it just 1 tile taller per electrolyzer so that you can climb into the electrolyzer area. Very helpful for when something breaks. The water puddles require a wall 2 tiles high. Dupes can jump 2 tiles vertically.

@engineertroy_

3 күн бұрын

Good tip!

You could use less airflow tiles. You only really need 2 per electrolyzer (unless someone does it with less). Also, I'd recommend crude oil or petroleum instead of water for infinite storage purposes. Dont want your water to turn to steam.

@engineertroy_

6 күн бұрын

Good suggestion!

I like pipe sensors and shutoffs but holy HELL are they fussy. I was fiddling with a bathroom/cooling loop the other day and it would just randomly let polluted water through into clean. Probably something to do with mini packets maybe. Anyway, you really have to make sure the flow is v e r y even and the in game filters are nice for reliability if you can spare the power.

Others have already mentioned it but you always want to use radiant pipes (gas or liquid) inside the SPOM for cooling. It may not look "cool" but as long as it keeps the machines from overheating from their own waste heat that's what matters, otherwise they'll potentially cook themselves, especially since gold amalgam is a poor conductor and will not exchange heat well with the gasses inside the spom

I personally build and design Hydras in all my games and I'm afraid this is not the best design due to quite a few things: 1. It's not expandable - so once you build it, you'd better be happy with it. And replacing a hydra is much more of a hassle than your regular Rodriguez so be careful. 2. Not enough cooling for the entirety of the system. Use radiant liquid pipes and the temp of the liquid that's coming in. 3. No security. You need to make sure the player is informed if there's a shortage of water coming in if you want to limit the amount of gasses it can hold. 4. Complicated automation. Just use 3 atmosensors and a NOT Gate. Put 2 atmosensors in Oxygen with 1 connecting to the gass pumps and the other directly to the Hydrolizers. Put 1 atmosensor in hydrogen connecting it to the gass pumps and the input of a NOT Gate let its output connect to the Hydrolizers. Automation wires will always send green if it receives green so you don't need an OR Gate. 5. If you're gonna use disgusting poo water then limit oxygen generation to bellow 9K and put in a Buddybud plant in there to at least mask the smell. My god have mercy on the dupes! Also, only one type of germ can exist within a tile so it'll help fight against food poisoning germs. And here's some useful tips: The gass generated by electrolizers have a bias on where they'll end up on and on the latest update, hydrogen almost always ends up on the left and oxygen at the top. It sometimes changes depending on the setup and version but that's their general flow. If you put your battery and generators to the left or right of the setup and not on top then you can give the design a better chance at expandability.

@engineertroy_

9 күн бұрын

Mercy? You must not have seen what we did to poor Devon in episode 7. Muahaha! I appreciate your detailed feedback on the Hydra design. I'll have to work on it a bit more. Thanks again!

Hydra can glitch sometimes, especially on save-load and on high speed at later-game stage. To at least partially protect yourself from this glitch hydrogen chamber must be on left and oxygen on top diagonally. Look at your video starting at 3:16. There are little moments where hydrogen appears and stall for a part of second. If at this moment random gas movements happens and hydrogen moves left, you get hydrogen in oxygen chamber. As you see, there are no such stalling for oxygen, it moves nearly instantly. So, left of electrolyzer must be hydrogen, in this case if hydrogen moves randomly it just join hydrogen. This glitch is rare, it needs very bad luck with timing of gas movement and gas production, but it happens and ruins this design. This problem never happens in hybrid design. In hybrid design you place a drop of liquid left of gas-spawn point, so both gases must move up-diagonally, removing any possibility for glitch

@engineertroy_

7 күн бұрын

Ah, that’s an excellent observation! Thanks for the feedback!

Niiiic FSPOM. Question why the buffet gate?

@engineertroy_

7 күн бұрын

Just to reduce the amount of cycling on and off the gas pumps do.

Hey if you have any ideas for infinite liquid oxygen and hydrogen storage, i would love to hear them, I’ve had to use a door compressor system for my infinite hydrogen rocket since Escher waterfalls give me trouble with freezing the two gasses.

@engineertroy_

6 күн бұрын

I’ll have to check it out. Thanks for the idea!

Do the automation components need to be made of gold to prevent overheating? What about the conductive wire? Can wire even overheat?

@engineertroy_

Күн бұрын

Those components should be ok, though it may be best to avoid making them from lead.

What would you reccomend for reneable source of water? I'm finding this to be my main problem

@engineertroy_

Күн бұрын

Geysers are great if you have access to them.

why the 2 extra not gates? you can simply invert the behaviour of the atmo sensors.

@engineertroy_

9 күн бұрын

Your right, it must've been an error I didn't catch after finalizing the design. How did I miss that?! Yikes! It is safe to say they can be omitted by changing the atmo sensors to below 20 kg.

Thxxxxx

@engineertroy_

11 күн бұрын

😊

Beautiful design, one thing i do is only vacuum the hydrogen side if I have already have oxygen on the other o2 side.

@engineertroy_

11 күн бұрын

Good point!

Usage of five-years old hydra design after invention of hybrid design looks slightly outdated. Did you read Compendium of Amazing Designs?

@engineertroy_

8 күн бұрын

I have not. I’ll have to check it out. 😃

Nice design. Small improvement : you can put your water through the oxygen part, and benefit from both cooling the oxygen and gaining less thermal energy from the fixed temp output of the electrolyser if water is

@engineertroy_

11 күн бұрын

Great tips! Ill have to try the water cooling. I had not consider it as I just assumed the temp followed the gasses into the chambers.

@cedriccouderc9647

10 күн бұрын

​@@engineertroy_ Indeed, the electrolyzer has a fixed lower bound for its output. If the water is over 70°C, the gases will be at the water's temperature. So you are right in this case: "the temp followed the gasses into the chambers." However, if the water is any lower than 70°C, the gases will still be at 70°C. So any electroliser that uses

@engineertroy_

10 күн бұрын

Wow, such great info! Definitely gonna snake a radiant pipe through all my SPOMs from now on. Thanks again for taking the time to teach me something new!

For some reason almost every time I use the liquid trick to fool gas vents, after a while the liquid disappears. :(

@engineertroy_

6 күн бұрын

It tends to disappear in one tile wide but seems fairly stable when two or more wide. That way the liquid has somewhere to go other than straight up when gas is pumped into the tile.

Please make a noob video about Chlorine.

I cant even dig out a base without a super drowning..this is...beyond me!

@engineertroy_

5 күн бұрын

You can do it! 😂

GDI Troy and here I was taking a break from ONI

@engineertroy_

11 күн бұрын

😂

Personally I always thought it was dumb to encase the hydrogen generators. Why not open it up and include a Power Control Station? 50% extra power goes a long way, especially in the early-mid game when you are building this thing. Even later on you are probably looking at like 2-5MW depending on the size, from tune ups alone. I get that there's a small risk of using too much power, blacking out the pumps and electrolyzers, and then spiraling into death. A gas reservoir for hydrogen (because it can feed the generators even without power) and some extra battery storage (smooth out power and prevent blackouts) can mostly eliminate this chance as long as you are paying attention to the game. If you do ever get into a really bad situation, you can just disconnect the wire from the main power and let it be self-powered only until you've fixed things.

@engineertroy_

6 күн бұрын

Good points. This is just one possible solution. I agree, each has their pros and cons.

I put it into infinite storage mode and apparently, after exceeding a certain limit, which I forgot, because I wasn't double checking on it, the entire thing will just break and flood your base with oxygen and hydrogen. 😢

@engineertroy_

3 күн бұрын

Yikes! That’s no good. I wonder what happened 🤔

Good, now build a "hybrid design" 😈

@engineertroy_

9 күн бұрын

LOL

Hate those design. This is not ONI but pointless sandbox design. Later you might learn that cheating kill your game. One of the game fundamental aspect is colony management and you make design that simply denied that. Sandbox seems to be the name of the game you're playing. Depriving the universe of dimension seems to be the specialty of Human, such failure.

@SK-ny5ei

3 күн бұрын

Have you ever given any thought to maybe not being such an insufferable boor? I've heard it can work wonders for your mental health, not having every human you interact with instantly repelled by your awful personality. And a little known fact, you don't even have to give up your unjustifiable notions of intellectual and moral superiority to all other human beings. You just have to keep them secret. From everyone you meet from now on, by which I mean, the family and former friends who already know what you are will never be fooled and will still not want anything to do with you. Give it some thought. Before it's too late and you waste your whole life like this.