What nonsense, these knives are quite sought after and retain most if not all of their value second hand...spartan have even expanded the line with custom graphic versions. so much for your predictions.

@anthonyb2990

3 жыл бұрын

Just means most people have garbage taste, look how many Mercs and BMWs are around and how much they cost and how they become trash/fall apart after the warranty's up. This knife is about $70 bucks more expensive than a Hinderer and not nearly as well constructed/finished and it's not even on the same planet as CRK. Doesn't even have a sharpening choil lolll.

@Alex-yg5uh

3 жыл бұрын

@@anthonyb2990 I never said the Spartan harsey was a "good knife" I don't own one or intend to own one but they are sought after and do retain value on the secondary market so I'm not sure what your point is? Also I have owned several CRK's and sold them all, Over hyped and over priced is the best way I could describe them. lol lol lol.

Hi Rob I love your channel and I love your very knowledgeable reviews of knives. Has your opinion changed or remained the same on this Spartan Harsey Folder approximately 4 years later? I am a big fan of this knife! I also own and carry a large 31 in a Crk slip! I own a fancy version of this knife called the Plague Doctor. My favorite brands are CRK, I own a large 21 sebenza, large 31 sebenza, a full titanium Xm-18, along with Koenig Arius/mini goblin, and my other favorite brand is another USA maker Skiff Blade works Drifter! I love all of them! The one thing that appeals to me so much is the use of phosphor bronze washers. It’s one it the reasons I love CRK! Don’t get me wrong bearings are awesome but I love that glass smooth feeling of bronze washers. I have my xm-18 running on washers and I love it. Just wanted to see if this Spartan Harsey has crossed your path again since 2016 and was wondering if your opinion has stayed the same on the knife? Take care my friend and thank you for your videos!

Theses knives continue to sell at $460. There is no secondary market for them. They are worth what people are willing to pay for them and you see nothing but out of stock when you search for them. This video is just an opinion of a person who doesnt have his name on a knife blade.

I'll keep my original Harsey D2, thank you very much. One of my all time favorites!

Got one of these when i saw your review, i love it.

I was considering adding one of these for my knife collection, then I watched your review and quickly considered getting another Chris Reeve Sebenza with the Insingo blade.

Thank u so much for this review much appreciated

Thanks this is very thorough.

Some great honesty !! Thanks

Hey Rob, your would love the Fantoni Harsey knives!!! I know I sure love mine! I would love a review on them.

very interesting review. The things I have learned from your reviews have added greatly to my enjoyment of of this hobby. Thank you/ ever consider writing s book before you forget it all. (i would buy a copy)

The Lone Wolf Harsey that I own from years ago is a Double Action. I love the knife.

Thanks for another honest review, Rob!

I could never dislike something made in the USA. You know, if it wasn't for religion this'd probably be my favorite channel. I love the patriotism. Wait, did I miss something, the scales are titanium so that is why they carburized the lock face. It also helps with lock stick, but it also prevents the titanium from wear.

I've been watching a ton of your videos recently. Your insight into folding knives is superb and clearly comes from a lot of experience. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Koenig Arius.

@TheApostleP

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks Max. I haven't seen one yet.

What's the big benefit of shouldered stand offs and why is it such a deal breaker on this knife that it doesn't have them?

Well I must say good sir. Despite what some of these other knuckle heads say, you bring up some excellent points. Keep up the good work.

spartan has got some nice blades for sure!!! I wish they were slightly cheaper but I hope they are here to stay

Beautiful knife!

Geez, I like the clip

Hey Rob what do you make of the Fantoni Harsey? The limited edition s125v version in particular?

I had to break down and buy one. I already own a fantoni hb01....love harsey designs.

I talked to Eugene about over-seas machining at blade show. He said they do ( i think it was italy?) because nobody does what they needed for a reasonable price in the us. He said it would bring their prices up too high to sell for what they are worth.

What are your thoughts on the Pallas?

Very nice knife! i liked!

. . . what is the update on the.. motorcycle ? ? ?

hahaha awesome video Rob!!

I own both this knife, absolutely love it and the Lone Wolf/Harsey T2, got from an Army buddy.

Nice folder! :)

Spartan fixed blades have been around for a few years now. I have never bought one due mainly to the price.I like that they didn't make this a flipper. I was never really into the whole flipper trend.

@Alex-yg5uh

8 жыл бұрын

"flipper trend" lol get real bud. flippers are an evolution, a different way of doing things and some would even say they are superior to thumb studs just as thumb studs are Superior to nail nicks. one thing is for sure they ARE here to stay.

@supertrickyrickyandtheslip1473

8 жыл бұрын

I prefer flippers any day

Hey Rob have you had any of the Fantoni Harsy folders in hand? The 01 and 03 are awesome! If hard to find.

@thoricdavid8174

8 жыл бұрын

Harsey*

I never liked the edge quality. Specifically at the base of the edge. You opened my eyes. Thank you

It looks like the love child of an XM-18 and a CRK Inkosi!!

You asked what knife this reminds me of. Sng/XM-18 came together and had a child

This, Sebenza or inkosi?

Two questions: (1) Isn't carbidizing a good thing in that it hardens the surface of the titanium? (2) are you aware of any design changes to this folder since you did your review in 2016? thanks

@TheApostleP

4 жыл бұрын

Dale Jacques I actually prefer carburizing to either carbidizing or a steel insert. Carbidizing deposits carbide granules on the surface of the Ti. It can cause more problems than it solves - odd lockup, dimensional issues, gritty feel. Steel inserts are slippery. Carburizing is a heat treating process that essentially case hardens the working surface without changing it dimensionally or in micro finish. Chris Reeve and Spyderco use this process to perfection. I’m not aware what if any changes Spartan has made to this model.

Its been almost 2 years...have these improved?

The design is there, it's soo close but I agree with you, it falls a bit short on the execution. I really appreciate your honesty Rob! I want to love Spartans. I don't own any, which probably tells you more than my words could but I believe they are eventually going to get there..... But they have to listen to feedback like yours and make the engineering changes. They are a fixed blade company dabbling in folders. Again I don't own any of their knives, but their fixed blades look pretty squared away. So I hope in the future 2.0 versions they can make those improvements.

what is the price of this blade? I can't find it anywhere!!

@WatchmanNiel

8 жыл бұрын

I recently saw it on Ebay for $475. Pricey.

Talk amongst yourselves... ha, that's great

I enjoy looking at my Spartan st Michaels s45

the detent sounds good

Thank god your channel is more than just a knife sale channel again!!!

I was really hoping someone would pick up the harsey folder design, but was hoping for something more reasonably priced and better made. I love my 710, but have to hate benchmade for killing lone wolf...

What kind of dive watch you rockin there boss.

@watchreport

8 жыл бұрын

Im not 100% sure but I believe it's a Casio.

@fatshadow2062

8 жыл бұрын

WatchReport.com Yeah. I thought maybe something like that based on the markings at 12. I've tried in a few AP videos now to get a good look at it. Thanks.

@TheApostleP

8 жыл бұрын

Casio Duro

@fatshadow2062

8 жыл бұрын

TheApostleP Thank you sir. Knives and watches - two symptoms of the same disease. Love the channel, btw.

i love ya Rob but i cant get with you on the china thing...some of my fav blades are my reate and WE knives. they make very very good stuff.

Benchmade management never fails to piss off many of their biggest fans.

Love the pocket clip. And the design. but the non shouldered spacers and poor machining make it a no go. Pretty from a distance though.

Original Harsey T-3 blade is 4 3/4" and overall length is just over 10 1/2". Mine has the LAWKS lock which was designed by Ron Lake and Michael Walker, both great knifemakers. For those commenting about China, well, China is still a Authoritarian Communist State. After the fall of the USSR, and the signing of NAFTA by Clinton, China began embracing Capitalism by making parts of products, then shipped them to Mexico to be assembled into finished goods. Once assembled, they were labeled "Assembled in Mexico" then transported to the U.S. via the free trade agreement we had with Mexico. Those officials that are part of the elite in China were rewarded with privatizing. So, there is limited privatization in few parts of China. But, in no way is China not a Communist State. Do your research before you post. SF

I always wanted a Lone Wolf Harsey. I still am somewhat miffed at Benchmade for killing them off. Instead of making Lone Wolf a budget model, they should have made Lone Wolf a luxury knife brand somewhere between the blue and gold class.

It would be cool if you would design a knife! You seem to know more than these knife makers that make a living doing it!

Thank you ! Beautiful knife but to high for me. I will stick with my ZT's.

@Player_Review

8 жыл бұрын

ZT is so amazing for a production knife. Honestly, they're significantly better than most custom knives. I have four of them and they all represent the epitome of perfection.

@Player_Review

8 жыл бұрын

***** If you have $450 custom folders that have better tolerances and action than a ZT, I'd be interested in how to contact the makers and get on their backlog.

@Player_Review

8 жыл бұрын

***** Depends on how famous the maker is. $1000+ are makers that everyone knows, supply and demand increases the price because of the value of their time. The majority of customs aren't made by the guys everyone has heard of.

@Player_Review

8 жыл бұрын

***** A custom knife (non-folder) can even be some guy with a little homemade foundry in the backyard, a railroad spike and a hammer. Many custom knives I don't consider to be customs, since they sometimes advertise themselves as custom when they're actually mid-tech. If they make every single component, including the bushings or even the ball bearings, then it is a custom knife. But, we all know there are only a couple guys that make their own bearings and cages. A custom is pretty much what you said, the handiwork of close scrutiny with plenty of hands on, though I'm okay with CNC, whereas some guys just use a file on it all instead of machining. Some guys just make knives for a hobby, or sell to friends or at trade shows (not the big shows). You won't find them at the websites you mentioned. I work at a software company and have at least two colleagues that make knives as a hobby, it isn't all that uncommon (one of them has sometimes cheated by buying blade blanks). I appreciate your argument, and trust me, I understand. The saying is, production knives have a ceiling (somewhere around ZT, Chris Reeve and if your flush you might get a Rockstead), then you have to go more money and custom to break through the ceiling. I know that Marfione for instance, will often make a knife that is better than a ZT, though I saw one in person that the chemical for anodizing had gotten on scales where it shouldn't have been. But, yeah, there are guys that make folders that aren't listed on the websites, just waiting to be found, and they're not asking $1k+. If we say there are 50 or so really good knife makers, then there are thousands that nobody has ever heard of, that have no web presence. This is why I say 'better than most custom folders', I'm not comparing them to the top 50 makers. Wouldn't you rather have a ZT than a hammered railroad spike with bronze or silicon bushings in a wooden handle with a non-hardened liner?

@Player_Review

8 жыл бұрын

***** Probably 'high-end custom folders'. The custom knife community does use that term to separate the nice customs from the mediocre. Some high-end customs are still made with no CNC and a file for the handles. To each their own, most custom knife makers deserve being supported.

More and more knife companies are sticking with S35vn steel....don't you think Rob?

@TheApostleP

8 жыл бұрын

I seems so. Apparently that crusty curmudgeon Chris Reeve knows a little bit about what makes a good knife steel. Who knew?!

BM messed it all up.....i STILL DONT HAVE A T2/T3..... :(

My first thought was, it looks like something Zero Tolerance would make.

NO WAY is that knife worth more than a Hinderer or CRK in price or value. The only reason they won Knife of the Year at Blade was due to an aggressive marketing campaign. Great observation and review.

@TheApostleP

8 жыл бұрын

Are you suggesting that advertising dollars spent with Blade Magazine might improve one's chances of winning awards at Blade Show? 😱

@FlipFlopsQ

8 жыл бұрын

Wasn't thinking of it in that context. I was thinking about a marketing / public relations campaign with the general public. I know on Facebook I saw a marketing campaign / appeal for people to vote for that knife at Blade Show. For the record, though, I don't own the knife and probably never will. Just has no appeal for me. I have, however, done plenty business with the owner's son on other high dollar knives. He is a great guy and businessman.

Nice knife and high end steel, but the fit and finish vs. price is a dealbreaker. I have a Harsey T2 Lone Wolf, and the Spartan is essentially the same, but the Lone Wolf has a flat ground blade--which I prefer anyway. I applaud your support of American knife companies, but in the end, the product stands or falls on it's own merits. For the same money, a Chris Reeve Sebenza is much more logical. Great review, however! Keep it up.

Arrow clip looks good but wish it was deep carry

Love Harsey's designs. To DavidMN the soviets were not socialist ether and if the USA sees democracy any where in the world it stamps it out as quickly as possible.

I was thinking Hinderer in the blade but Strider in the handle

China is not communist by nature. Not saying communism is good, but China is not communist. At all. There's nothing wrong with WE Knives, Reate or Kizer. They're all making great knives, mostly with US made blade steels (money comes around, baby) and great craftsmanship, not made in sweatshops, made by people who love what they're doing. So, yes, while you have every right to love the US and US made knives, it makes completely and utterly no sense to boycott Chinese knives from quality companies, especially when you'll go and buy an Italian or German knife and talk about how great it is.

@CASTRO45ACP

8 жыл бұрын

Everyone always says what you just said and then boom the industry is flooded with Chinese knives and all those great American companies are gone along with their knives.

@TheStabbyCyclist

8 жыл бұрын

If they can be put out of business by the Chinese companies than maybe those great American companies weren't so great after all.

@hellcatdave1

8 жыл бұрын

+CASTRO45ACP US manufacturers are disappearing because they overcharge simply because of where they are made. A generic knife for 400 dollars? Who would pay that? Why would anyone pay that much simply because of where it's made, when the cost of labor and cost of materials are the exact same in another country except for a price that isn't a rip off purely because of the place it is made. Big Chinese knife companies like Reate and WE Knives aren't winning because they're underpaying their employees (they aren't) they're winning because they're fairly priced and well made.

@mrbz900

8 жыл бұрын

+DavidMN it's called greed my friend. Greed 🤔

@TheStabbyCyclist

8 жыл бұрын

Luckily there are still makers out there like Bill Koenig. Bill is a class act and I encourage everyone to take a look at his offerings. His recent model, the Arius, is around $500 but has basically every feature you could want in a modern folder/flipper. Even better is Bill's customer service, which I have first hand experience with. I'm curious to hear what TheApostleP's opinion of the Arius would be.

It will be nice to see “Proudly made in USA” on $20 knife!?! That would be a sight!!!!

A good price point for that knife should be. around 175 to 200

But Rob, it's a "custom" or something, so they're impervious to criticism! You're just supposed to fawn over this thing.

@Mister_Phafanapolis

8 жыл бұрын

Also, WTF do the organizer of Blade Show do the rest of the year? Their website blows, their twitter hasn't been updated in two weeks, no KZread channel, and a multitude of other things they DON'T do. I guess I could subscribe to the magazine for twice the price of what Guns and Ammo or Motortrend ask per year.

@Mister_Phafanapolis

8 жыл бұрын

"Custom" doesn't mean anything.

@Mister_Phafanapolis

8 жыл бұрын

It doesn't matter if it was made on the moon in a furnace powered by unicorn farts. Is it a quality, well made tool that represents a good value? I don't like the attitude that something like a Kershaw or Spyderco knife is made by some sort of super robot and are never graced by a human hand until it's unboxed by it's original owner. People work in that factory and they screw it together. Sure, they're not "tuning" the knife, but they're still doing the best job they can and aren't sending out complete garbage. So what if the screw is made by the maker? Bet he didn't make the screw driver he uses, or the band saw or the grinder. Where does it end? I argue that's a massive waste of time, they should be focusing on design and QC instead of spending time on a commodity part. Just because they spent a lot of time on something doesn't necessarily mean it's of higher quality (it may, but it isn't a guarantee.) And yeah, I'm kind of trolling.

@Mister_Phafanapolis

8 жыл бұрын

You state that a "custom knife is a knife that is not manufactured." What do you mean by that? They're being manufactured, the maker isn't willing them into existence. They're being made in a very small batch quantity compared to say something like a Kershaw or a ZT.

I wanted to love this knife but after receiving mine with loose thumb studs, atrocious blade centering, flimsy pocket clip, and awful lockbar stick, I'm beyond disappointed.

@TheApostleP

7 жыл бұрын

Mike Usmiani That blows! Sorry to hear that.

@knifeaddict1014

3 жыл бұрын

Man that does blow!! I got mine today and it is perfect!!!

@michaelusmiani688

3 жыл бұрын

Just an update, I ended up buying a second harsey folder (the faith, hope, and love edition) and that one was perfect. You would think the knives came from different companies. The scales weren't as nicely chamfered as the first but overall a much better built knife. Evidently my first one is one the very early versions where my issues were echoed by others.

@knifeaddict1014

3 жыл бұрын

Michael gotcha glad you was able to be satisfied, I know I am and the s45vn steel is a plus! Did you get the s45vn steel as well?

@michaelusmiani688

3 жыл бұрын

Both are in s35vn

I can't get excited about this thing though it's too plain looking. i like a few of their other designs though

Rob, the USA is the greatest country in the world. And it would be even better with the MKS metric system. Meters and kilograms are WAY better than inches, feet, miles, pounds, etc. Pounds aren't even a mass measurement, they measure force and how many people even know that?

Leave the clip alone!!!!! Oh and I wouldn't buy a Chinese knife for one communist Red cent.

and I definitely have nothing against you trying to promote American made knives I love my American made knives as well but don't knock the Chinese just cuz they're Chinese.

@jonathanchamblee7863

6 жыл бұрын

DavidsAddictions how about knocking them because child labor, work camps, destruction of churches, imprisonment and execution of Christians , America's enemy and a few more . Can I knock them for that?

@terrenceluther3188

6 жыл бұрын

With all due respect, we're not exactly lily white when it comes to human rights issues. We may be the land of the free, but we also have the highest per capita incarceration rate in the world. Number one. Ask the people in Maricopa county jail during Joe Arpaio's tenure, and honestly explain how those are not work camps. Often times, imprisoned on the most minor offenses that were not deemed worth having served the time they did once brought under federal scrutiny. I know what you're saying, but until we clean our side of the street, it's important to remember we had child labor at one time in this country(obviously that changed with progress), our forefathers committed genocide on the Native American people(and continue to break treaty agreements), and we've held people in brutal prisons such as Guantanamo without any charges and awaiting trial indefinitely.

@gym55rat

6 жыл бұрын

American people can be so hypocritical

this knife reminds me of unflavored oatmeal sure you wont starve but id rather be eating steak

American made blade of the year? Looks like it was rolling around the floor boards of an f150 for a few months.. Not for me. That knife was NOT graceful and thoughtful in engineering. Its a run of the mill titanium framelock. And yall wonder why folks buy ganzo's...

@knowyourhistory

8 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say it rolled around the floor boards for a few months, but this is basically the same Harsey design that's been around for decades. Absolutely nothing new or unique about this knife.

This is such an absurd review. You spend over half of the 32 minutes SPECULATING about the design choices as a form of criticism. You point out perilously little that actually IS flawed about the knife. It's all conjecture. You say things like "It's not strongly constructed" but then you never actually mention testing it and observing how it measured up. It's fair to mention potential problems in design choices, but these must ALWAYS be taken with a grain of salt since YOU are not a knife designer. It's like a car enthusiast complaining about leaf springs on a Corvette's suspensions. Sure, leaf springs are an old technology, and usually mean BAD handling. However, Corvette engineers have found a way to make the leaf springs work very well and retain advantages in simplicity, reliability, and affordability. You really ought to reevaluate how you review knives.

@TheApostleP

7 жыл бұрын

Forgive me for the upcoming snappy retort, but... I handle and service thousands of knives every year. I have an engineering and machining background, enough to know the basics of how to put metal together in a structurally sound way. I have over 700 knife review videos on KZread. I've been collecting knives for over 40 years. My "cred", while always open to examination, is beyond question. But ever open minded and looking to learn, I jumped over to your channel to see how you do it. To my great surprise (not), you have exactly ZERO knife review videos posted, out of ZERO total videos posted. I think you need to reevaluate how you comment on KZread videos, so as not to reveal yourself as ignorant and arrogant on a channel with 20K subs.

@ampark09

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for demonstrating exactly what i stated in my initial comment: that you have a tenuous grasp of basic logic. Just as you failed to understand that speculations on design decisions are not in themselves criticisms, you fail to understand that having zero youtube videos does not guarantee that I know nothing about knife making or knife design. I could be Chris Reeve for all you know. Second, even if you were right and I know absolutely nothing about knife design..my original point still holds. You were speculating about design choices rather than making observable criticisms of performance. I tried to make this distinction extremely clear with my Corvette analogy because I knew you (or someone) would talk about how smart you were and how many knife youtube videos you have. Well, if that logic held, I could simply say Bill Harsey knows WAY more than you do, so his design decisions MUST be correct. If your speculations are automatically correct bc you have youtube videos about knives, why aren't Harsey's automatically correct bc he actually frikkin designed and built some of the best knives ever? Sure, you're free to speculate about design choices all you want. And it's not unhelpful to do so. But don't rag on a knife purely for that reason. You should at least go out and test it to see if your conjectures hold up. As someone with a background in engineering, you'd think you'd understand the importance of testing your hypotheses. But I guess you never thought to do that since you don't even seem to be aware of the distinction between hypothesis and evidence.

@TheApostleP

7 жыл бұрын

ampark09 I think I see where the misunderstanding lies here... perhaps you can dial back the attitude enough to learn something. You don't seem to understand the difference between design and engineering. The designer, in this case the preeminent Bill Harsey, is responsible for shapes, dimensions and features. The engineer then takes the design and makes it work for manufacturing. This function was probably done by Spartan Blades. I criticized this knife for engineering, not design. There are basic concepts of engineering, tool making and structural integrity that are not sound in this knife. They don't need to be tested AGAIN, since they are long held truths. Let's look at one: You don't locate components under dynamic stresses with screws. Precisely machined pins (or shouldered standoffs) perform that function. Screws are designed to fasten, not locate. I don't need to test this -- any more than I need to let go of a bowling ball held over my head to see if it will fall on me. A knife in this price range should get things like this right, much like your knives do, Mr. Reeve.

@ampark09

7 жыл бұрын

I don't want to get into an inane argument about the differences between design and engineering. Engineers DO design things, but they are not responsible for the "design" of the overall product. It's always a sticky issue negotiating the preferences of designers and engineers and the best in each field do a good job of working together. Which is why it stands to reason that a great knife designer like Bill Harsey would probably be involved in key engineering choices of the like you pointed out. They would affect how the design of the knife works. When Todd Begg designed a knife for Reate, do you think he had zero input on the engineering choices that went into the realization of his design? I have to reiterate how ignorant and incorrect it is to argue that a "design" means zero input on engineering choices. And since you mentioned the guys at Spartan Blades, Curtis and Mark have experience working at CRK. So I'm fairly confident they have more knowledge about this sort of thing than you or I do as well. Again, I wouldn't employ that logic, but you did, so there it is. Lastly, saying that you don't need to test your conjectures is like saying there's no point in engineering, which I find ironic given your distinction between engineering and design. If we didn't need to test a design (bc we already know it works) there wouldn't be any real work for engineers and designers could take care of everything. If you really want to be nitpicky about the distinction between the two, that's the conclusion you're committing yourself to. The fact is, I've read dozens of reviews on the SHF and not one has made these points, or raised any issues with the engineering choices made. You'd think if these are such obvious errors that you'd see many reviews pointing this out. I can't find one. But then, maybe that's why this video has so many dislikes on it compared to your other uploads....

@TheApostleP

7 жыл бұрын

ampark09 I'll look forward to your next design, Mr. Reeve. Apparently the guys at Spartan didn't learn much from you. Good luck testing that bowling ball drop theory. You can't just trust gravity!

Yeah. Bill Harsey knows nothing about designing blades.

It looks boring for an expensive knife!

Communism is good! But xm-18 3,5' better