I have had mine for several months now. I have almost completely stopped using VR since I got it. 90% of the effect of VR without the uncomfortable, hot VR goggles. I like it better than TrackIR because I don't have to wear reflectors on a hat or headphones. It has been 100% reliable since I got it. I find it most helpful when lining up for a landing, especially turning base to final.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

It is quite a marvel in the world of headtracking utilities.

Having used mine for over a year... wouldn't fly without it now. Very handy when flying into coffin corner 😁

I have had one of these for a couple of years and it has been a real game changer for me, particularly as I can’t use VR without feeling dizzy 😢

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

This is the perfect advertisement for the Tobii ;)

Great video. Thanks for posting

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Thanks.

I have this from 10 years ago with fs2004 with the trackIR5 and the track clip pro. It works perfectly with fs2020 exactly like the tobi. You shown in the video. It is very precise with the IR as well and allow all movement. Only cons is there are some cables and the clip attach is fragile. My wife broke my first one. I bought another one. I would have prefer a more solid attachment. You have to carefully handle it to install it on a headset. But except that after you are like in vr experience with precise 6 DOF and with the headset you feel in the plane. There is also a less expensive track clip which works as well and not fragile as there are no active light anymore. It works but it is not as good as the track clip pro. Very good product and it can replace a vr headset and give the advantage that fs2020 has only one screen to render and it is easier to get ultra settings and far less expensive. I have a vr headset but still use my trackir5 in fs2020 with high/ultra settings at nearly 60 fps when i do only 23 fps in VR at 2880 x 1600 and only at medium settings with ultra textures. So the difference in rendering difficulty is huge between normal pc and vr. So the trackir5/to i are good solutions.

I've had one now for about 6 mo. now. absolutely love it. Takes a little time setting to your liking.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

Thx for the review and honest opinion. Leaning towards this but the cost in Canadian dollars is hefty.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it's firmly in the Luxury item bracket.

I love my Tobii tracker! It’s a must for any flight game that supports it. Cheaper than a VR headset and more comfortable.

@Huddison

8 ай бұрын

I totally agree.

You just saved me £20 as I now know I don't need the mounting kit... Thank you. Great review BTW.

@Huddison

10 ай бұрын

Great to hear & thanks.

One thing worth mentioning with the Tobii Eye Tracker; it might seem expensive but compared to the cost of a decent VR headset and the price to be added for the right PC specs to run VR well, it's a bargain! I've been using mine for about a month now (I bought it when they had a 25% saving) and it's been a godsend. In addition, being able to see my flight panel switches and controls (which you can't do with VR) is a bonus. My situational awareness - especially when landing - is so dramatically improved I never fly without it. Well worth the money!!

@Huddison

9 ай бұрын

Excellent points & comments.

I love my tobii, I had track 5 but the camera was a bit flimsy and the clip was annoying. Just me I suppose but the Tobii took all the stress out of using it. Thanks for the tip about sensitivities.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Having to set nothing up (after the initial install/setup) is one of the very best features of the Tobii.

Eye tracking is used in Lasik eye surgery to keep the laser on the right spot as your eye twitches and moves.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Very innovative technology.

Good video and explanation, what aircraft game is that you played is it on PS5 VR?

@Huddison

4 ай бұрын

It's Microsoft Flight Simulator and not on PS5 atm.

We need this for Xbox X/S

@jamesscott8120

10 ай бұрын

it's always the same result no eye tracking no VR for xbox X/s when will Xbox ever compete with pc half the job done

@iknowbricksgood

8 ай бұрын

You need a pc

@user-ez8gv

7 ай бұрын

​​@@jamesscott8120no console will ever compete with pc

@frank7131989

5 ай бұрын

We need it for everything who are we kidding. I'd love one for my steamdeck to use mouse programming with it

@Mikinct

20 күн бұрын

​@@user-ez8gv Xbox is PC, it even runs Microsoft windows OS. It basically crushes any PC at the time it debuts & still crushes PCs for a few years. Sure a PC might match it's specs but you'll have to spend 3 or 4 times the money just to match the Xbox gameplay. Xbox is a closed system so can't upgrade GPU, Ram Memory etc So after 3-4 years PC hardware prices come down a bit and you then can match or even surpass Xbox that is stuck with 3-4 year older hardware etc. If they made a Xbox where one can not just upgrade storage but ram memory it would still hold it's own. Ability to upgrade GPU & they'd be no rival. Xbox would crush it.

I bought the tobii eye tracker 5 before having to use TrackIR 5. Tobii is a great product but depends how you have your simulator setup. I use a 55" TCL tv as my primary display and sit my butt in my recliner approximately 5' away. Then between me and the tv is the Turtle beach stand with honey comb alpha yoke and bravo throttle quadrant mounted. on top of the bravo I have my logitech multi-panel and 15" touch screen running air manager panels. On top of the alpha I have my 10" tablet running my six pack air manager panels. Then to my left I have a snack tray which I mounted the logitech comm panel, my keyboard and 22" monitor displaying little nav map. So this makes using tobii difficult if not impossible to use, being it has to be mounted on the bottom of your display. So I had to get TrackIR which mounts on the top of my display. So yes they are both good products, but look at your setup and see which will work best.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Great points for consideration.

@ska042

5 ай бұрын

Maybe they recently added this option, but I believe there is a tripod mounting solution and software support for putting the tracker between yourself and the monitor now.

Another great video buddy! Personally, after using VR for MSFS, which is incredible by the way, I'd much rather use this. That's just my opinion though, lots of VR pilots would definitely disagree with me 😅

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Thanks PG. I'm with you there: I love VR in General and I was an early adopter of it; but I prefer to fly in pancake mode and the Tobii is the next best thing to VR, without wearing a headset.

@PracticallyGeek

Жыл бұрын

@Huddison Absolutely, I'm the same, I've actually worked in VR venues for the past 5 years and had a play with some of the PC ones and mobile ones. It's amazing to witness the sim in VR with a good resolution and POV, but you definitely need a PC VR headset with great specs to really appreciate it. And like you said, it's sitting there wearing a VR set for extended periods.

Great video! Love your style. I did try Track IR 5 about a year ago. The issue I had, was using it "bright" conditions (sunlight with windows around me) did not play well with the IR interface. At night it was fine, but during the day it was hit and miss and overall, I just said, "forget it" and sold it. How would this do in a situation like that?

@Huddison

10 ай бұрын

From what I've experienced, adverse lighting does not seem to affect the Tobii tracking whatsoever - sounds like this might be for you ;)

Great video. Is it affected by the use of glasses I wonder?

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

I wear glasses when simming and the Tobii works well with them.

Great review - How does Tobii work in DCS, what about hitting the buttons with the mouse? I have the Delanclip and I found it super annoying that it has to sit on my headset and the rendering on the screen is very choppy, I have a hard time hitting the buttons. I have now switched to a free version where you only use your webcam, it works just as badly as Delanclip, but I got rid of wearing my headset (AiTrack together with Opentrack) which I would recommend to everyone, no one difference compared to Delanclip, which costs money.

@Huddison

6 ай бұрын

Tobii works very well with DCS; I have a video on that: kzread.info/dash/bejne/g5dlqa-hkdqnqZM.html

Had mine for a couple months now: LDDW: Yes it is justified.

I run 43 inch triples ...Track IR stopped working ...I think I got a "knock-off". It was hard to position the receiver on the huge displays & I was constantly hitting the headphone attachment requiring a recalibration. This looks like a far better system. ...thanks

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

This should work better for you.

i'm hoping they do a decent black friday sale it seems great been waiting on getting one but its just to much money for a extra £150 more you could get okish vr headset most im willing to pay is £220. £279 is just far too much hopefully it comes down to less than £240 on black friday deal.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

The 5% discount will bring you nearer to £240 ;)

Slightly off topic, do you ever visit Manchester Airport viewing Park? Will you be going to the TAS fare on the 22nd July?

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

I've not been to Manchester Airport for a good number of years (I think the last time is when I flew out to Glasgow). I'm contemplating the TAS fare.

@PracticallyGeek

Жыл бұрын

@@Huddison I'm attending on the 22nd July, lots of the Airliners Live community there and a couple of Flight simmers I believe.

Do you notice any major improvements in your general flying. ie flying circuits, turning base, final etc ? It must help with perspective and positional awareness somewhat ?

@Huddison

11 ай бұрын

It certainly helps with situational awareness and very easy to enable/disable Tobii, depending on your flying style.

I might have to get one of these. I have an Oculus Quest 2 but I find setting it up, plugging in a cable, putting it on etc a total faff. This looks way better.

@Huddison

11 ай бұрын

It's quite amazing: always available for when I want to use it in a flight and no setup (aside from the initial setup).

@paulthurston2883

11 ай бұрын

@@Huddison You've sold me. I just ordered one. Can't wait to try it.

thanks for the videos always! what key u use or what key name should I use to activate and deactivate the tobii using my joystick? thanks.

@Huddison

4 ай бұрын

Search for 'TOGGLE HEAD TRACKING' in 'SEARCH BY NAME' in Controls Options.

@77flyer

4 ай бұрын

@@Huddison thanks

How do you turn the tracker on and of its a bit fiddly trying to pull and turn knobs with it on I got one yesterday.great video huddison.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Eddie. I use a button on my flight yoke to turn on and off tracking. Search by name in Controls Options 'Toggle Head tracking' and set a button to start/stop head tracking.

@eddieb.drones4866

Жыл бұрын

@@Huddison thankyou I am enjoying it

It works very well, my only gripe is no ability to pause, unlike trackir. The only way to pause it is switch it off, then the view returns to default cockpit view, very unhelpful if the pause was needed for viewing say the FMS CDU. Great for GA, not so for tube flying imho.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Good point, a pause feature would be fantastic. There may be some kind of setting, or added utility, that may allow this. I'll investigate.

@peterellis49

Жыл бұрын

@@Huddison cheers buddy, and as ever a first class video, I’ve done some digging but haven’t found anything or even any plans to build in a pause feature, which is a shame.

@gavinblackford4219

Жыл бұрын

There are a couple of keybinds you can bind in MSFS to pause & reset Tobii

@peterellis49

Жыл бұрын

@@gavinblackford4219 yes you’re quite correct, I have those key binds set on the HC Alpha, however, there is no ability to pause on a view of one’s choice.

@jmace1957

Жыл бұрын

There is a widget if you have Flow Pro that will let you pause it. I use it (the pause) when I am doing lots of in-the-cockpit setting up for a flight.

Like a not insignificant number of other people, I have a lazy eye - that is, when my right (dominant) eye is looking straight ahead, my left eye is looking somewhere off to the left. (I don't see in 3D because of this. My eyes can't focus on the same object at the same time to provide the necessary parallax.) I wonder how the Tobii would know which of my eyes to follow?

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Great question : I can neither confirm nor disqualifiy. You may be best contacting Tobii directly on this.

I just got mine a week ago, and while I do like it very much, I can't figure out how I am misconfiguring it, but I cannot figure out how to make it zoom in when I lean in to the screen.

@Huddison

5 ай бұрын

Watch the video through, I show you how to do that.

Wouldn't be without mine now, as for the cost if you compare with a vr headset and gpu to run vr, the cost is far less.. I am just not interested in vr so this is the best option, also nothing wrong with trackir, tobii is just spot on for flight sim.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Spot on Shaun. VR has it's place: total immersion in the SIm etc; but I prefer to be able to see my flight controls and panels, so this is the next best thing.

Tobii can track only the head or its eye dependent? I ask cause I use glasses with blue light blocking, só I do note know If Works with It.

@Huddison

8 ай бұрын

Yes it can track either independently.

If you're using a Thrustmaster Joystick or even the Thrustmaster Boeing 787 Yoke and it's Coonected to you Desk, will that Yoke or Joystick interfere with the Tobee being able to Read your Eye and Head Movements? And if those Devices do cause interference, How do you get around that problem? If you have to Raise your Monitor, how much higher? 🤔

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Just make sure the Tobii is in clear line of sight with your eyes. I have my monitor raised on a small box (as shown in this video), because I have the Logtiech Radio & Multi panel fixed atop of my XPC yoke.

I chucked mine, only because I have honeycombs, bunch of panels and didnt have much use if you're looking at those deivces to control radios, auto pilot, etc.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

I still manage ok with them.

@chriswhigham86

Жыл бұрын

@@Huddison yeah tbh I never tried it with VFR flying always in the airliners. Just got real twitchy when trying to look up at the overhead. But hey, works for some doesn't for others.

Was looking at the tobii 5.as my pc is on my left.can i have cable coming from left of tracker not right.?thx

@Huddison

6 ай бұрын

I don't believe you can alter which side the cable connects to the Tobii. But you should be able to loop it around to the left quite easily.

James: Are you actually using the Tobii most of the time now? Or have you put it aside? Also, how does it work when looking down, such as changing fuel tanks settings?

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

I have it permanately attached to the bottom of my monitor and turned on - great way to sight see on long flights.

@tomjanzen9278

Жыл бұрын

@@Huddison Okay, I bought it and installed it. Very enjoyable and I appreciate your recommendation. One question: How do you set up the keyboard toggle to turn it on and off?

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

@@tomjanzen9278 Search for 'Toggle Head Tracking' and set a key or button for that.

@tomjanzen9278

Жыл бұрын

@@Huddison Thanks!

Can you mount the eye tracker on a curved monitor?

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Yes it's designed to do that.

Anyone try this with a 34" screen? Thier website states it works up to 30" screens.

@Huddison

5 ай бұрын

Many folks are using much larger screens.

that price is too much for me, the best value for money head tracking is open track with AI track. its definitely not as smooth and struggles with leaning forward but for the price of a webcam you get deaccent head tracking. cost me £10.

Ok thx.

Maybe you try flying planes or helis in DCS?

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

The DCS Spitfire is the absolute first aircraft I'll be trying ;)

@888Huberto888

Жыл бұрын

@@Huddison i personaly love Huey

I have a 27 inch Curved Monitor, does that cause a problem putting the strip on?

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

It's also designed to fit on curved monitors. You get 2 types of fitting options - check their website for more info (my link is in the description).

@rogerferraro6661

Жыл бұрын

@@Huddison I have a 32 inch curved monitor and it attached with no problems and works fine. (MooseP)

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

There you go^ ;)

Hello, what screen do you have to use this?

@Huddison

3 ай бұрын

Just a standard flat 27" Monitor. It also works fine on my gaming laptop screen & others have reported it works fine on their larger curved screens.

Great video, thanks for sharing. Can it be used on a large screen TV for lazy ass armchair pilots and, will it work in darkened rooms or does the room have to be fully lit? How far do you have to turn your head lets say to see out the RHS cockpit window in relation to still being able to see the screen?

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

There's a limit on the screen size that the Tobii will work with. You're best contacting Tobii directly regarding this. You only need turn your head slightly (10 degrees or so), to look out of the left and right cockpit windows.

@davidsandberg6179

8 ай бұрын

The room doesn’t have to be lit … the unit is sending out its own invisible light to illuminate you. It also works even if there’s sunlight behind you, and if you are wearing glasses. In most supported games, the amount you need to turn your head can be adjusted to your liking. There are limitations on the monitor size and your distance from the tracker, but I’ve seen multiple people using Tobii successfully when they are a bit outside of those recommendations. I love mine, especially now that I also bought FaceTrackNoIR which has a Tobii input plugin, allowing me to use it in a wider variety of games.

Any idea if this ever coming to xbox?

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

My hopes are that something similar might; just not sure of the whole feasibility of it working on the Xbox platform.

@TPHI17

Жыл бұрын

Definitely be nice on Xbox seeings how we had Xbox connect years ago, we know it’s doable.

I wear glasses. Can I use Tobii?

@Huddison

10 ай бұрын

Yes 100%. I also wear glasses when flying.

Can you turn off eye tracking and only use head tracking?

@Huddison

8 ай бұрын

Yes I use headtracking only myself nowadays in MSFS.

@carlosceron5258

8 ай бұрын

@@Huddison Awesome, thanks.

stupid question here.. can you play call of duty with this thing?

@Huddison

8 ай бұрын

Here are the compatible games that you can use with the Tobii Eye Tracker 5: gaming.tobii.com/games/

how do you turn it on and off in Sim

@Huddison

9 ай бұрын

Set a binding for disable head-tracking

Are the lights really that bright or it is the camera?

@Huddison

7 ай бұрын

It's the camera picking up the beams - not visible to the naked eye.

@bmp713

7 ай бұрын

@@Huddison The lights are not visible at all??? Several people that use Talon Voice have said the lights are distracting.

I wonder why my comment was removed from this video. Was it for I being honest in my opinion? Again, I like this video and I’d love to have one of these, but I wouldn’t forgive myself for paying $299 for it. It’s too steep.

@Huddison

11 ай бұрын

Not certain why your previous comment is no longer visible ( I don't recall removing it ). It's a luxury purchase for sure.

Will it work on a laptop

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Here's a quote from Tobii's webpage 'Tobii Eye Tracker 5L can be mounted on any screen or monitor, including built-in displays on laptops as well as curved monitors.' It also works fine on my own gaming laptop.

Lol u could have had mine for nothing, VR is so much better (for me), works once on a clean system then cant find it the next time! Customs phoned me after it arrived wanting payment on it,was cursed from the start! To u half price! ;)

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Oh no, sounds like it might have been cursed from the very start ;)

does work on windows 11?

@Huddison

8 ай бұрын

It should do.

Windows 10 ??? BTW Welcome to 2024 - Don't dilly-dally !!!

@Huddison

5 ай бұрын

Are you asking whether it works on Windows 10?

@pdep

5 ай бұрын

​@@Huddison - No, I was highlighting you appeared to be Dilly Dallying in Windows 10 😄

@Huddison

5 ай бұрын

Even if my desktop PC allowed me to, I don't feel the massive urge to do so currently. @@pdep

@pdep

5 ай бұрын

@@Huddison Okay - Fairy Nuff - understood 😃

Just wasted a whole load of money on it, may be ok for flight sims but not for FS22 which I use alot. I watched FarmSim Guy,s review on it and what an unreliable, dishonest streamer he is, he said it was brilliant, huh. NO WAY.

@davidsandberg6179

8 ай бұрын

Yes, the FS22 internal implementation for the Tobii is really bad … that’s one of the only games where I’ve had problems with it, though. The TrackIR implementation in FS22 is better from what I’ve seen, and if you are willing to spend a couple of extra bucks on the FaceTrackNoIR software to act as a front end for the Tobii and then have it output TrackIR info to FS22, that could potentially work a whole lot better, I suspect. At least that’s what I intend to test one of these days when I get back to some virtual farming.

Off topic ...but how did you change the name plate fonts & colors for the other players?

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

This should help: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lHhopKayabmbdsY.html

@MsTheCops

Жыл бұрын

Thank's Huddison.

Thank you as always great review . I have a Samsung 49in Monitor UK0309926346 I was told by Tobii that it only supports up to 32in I would love this . Has anyone tried it on a large screen . Thank you all

@TheFalconJetDriver

Жыл бұрын

I Have a 50 inch monitor I am glad you brought this up! This is a game killer for many, a 32 inch monitor is small.😫🛫

@phillipbeharall6271

Жыл бұрын

@@TheFalconJetDriver from Tobbi Oscar (Tobii Eye Tracking) Jun 12, 2023, 02:53 GMT+2 Hi, Thanks for contacting us. Our recommending screen size is 15" to 27" [16:9] or 30" [21:9]*. If you would like to use it on the monitor larger than this, the eye tracking part will be unstable, especially at edges and corners. However, the head tracking part will not be affected. And it works fine in our office computer.