Other ideas (if you like crafting) -embroidered patches. You can just stitch the name on them, you can make a tiny one with just the favourite colour, you can (if you want to) make a huge one with the name, how the alter looks in the inner world and eventually the pronouns etc. -you could clip a little whiteboard (like 3x3 cm) or chalkboard to your shirt and then write the name of who's fronting on there

My fiance has different types of bracelets and necklaces for his alters to wear when they're fronting...that coincide with their personality style

We've seen that someone designed a pronoun pin with a rotating indicator for genderfluid people. something like that, but with names or colours, could work for smaller systems

@lorelaigilmore8668

Жыл бұрын

Do you have a link to that design?

One of my closest friends is part of an OSDD system, and your videos have helped me understand her system better and has helped her learn about living and collaborating with her alters. Thank you for doing what you do :)

@TheRingsSystem

4 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad!! Thank you so much for learning to better support your friend ❤️

@scarletsilver1026

4 жыл бұрын

I'm the friend! She told me about this comment. My system thanks you. It's been incredible to feel more whole now that we're all together and communicating!

This fits into the jewelry-categorie, but I immediatly thought about chokers. They come in a variety of colors and some have those ... rings, were you could clip little name-charms on. I was like "we should do that!" until I realized that one of our alters hates if there's anything on her neck, she can't even wear scarves. :( Scarves though! If you're living somewhere where it's always cold that is. ^^ I also thought you could do something like: necklace for alter A, wristband for alter B, ring for alter C, ponytail for alter D and so on. Obviously, that would only work for smaller systems.

We use a rewritable nametag with a magnet fasten (easier to attach/detach than a pin and doesn't leave holes in your shirt We had to get it custom-made (and KZread doesn't like links in their comments so i can't share) but it wasn't expensive

We use a lanyard and name badge for fronting, of course we're out entirely, so it definately should be done with concideration for safety but we actually created little tabs to put behind the name sticking up from behind the holder that tells people if we are co-fronting. We created special tabs for our therapy program so the directors know if a little is fronting and if that little is alone or with a caretaker or protector. Also a tab for our non-verbal headmates so people can instantly see, "oh this alter needs to use the phone to speak." 🍀

@TheRingsSystem

4 жыл бұрын

What a good idea! As always, we're so proud of y'all for being so out :)

Changing out clothing and sweater if and when possible. Changing to the style or color set your alters like.

It's a little bittersweet watching this, we came out to someone who doesn't even notice it when one of us is speaking in a different accent... ;-_- so still getting over that... I might ask my roommates about the whiteboard thing, I hear that's a great way to communicate who's around, and they've been asking me to clarify I'm just never comfortable with coming right out and saying it - Cub

@TheRingsSystem

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I understand that! Our friends and partner still don’t catch noticeable switches all the time, thats why we use our clips :) for singlets it’s so far off their radar that they don’t know what to look for or how to recognize it, even if it’s super obvious to us!! I hope they get better at recognizing differences soon ❤️💕❤️

This is bittersweet for me too, since I'm with an older gentleman who is a very covert system, and I'm a singleton. It has taken almost to years to get to the point of trust that we're at, and that's not saying much! I wish it was possible for an easy indicator in our situation, but will never be. I'm doing my best though!

We each have beaded bracelets with our names on them that our host made. Everyone chose their own colors of beads, and it has worked great for us :)

I thought of charms too! You could have a whole bracelet or keyring to keep them on (as I know they can get in the way or be a sensory issue for some) and wear a chain necklace to clip relevant charms to that indicates who is out. It might help those with amnesia to see who they have switched with and you could even have indicators to show if the people you're with know you're a system. I just thought this would be a good method as the act of swapping the charms can be quite subtly done, and give the person out front a moment to ground themselves and consider their surroundings while looking like they are just thinking. :)

@TheRingsSystem

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah!! Charms are amazing :)

We thought of one today; we have a pretty big system (around 200) so having 200 different charms wouldn't really be the best option. So, we have a few different charms with pretty big difference so people can clearly see the difference. Then we have a necklace where we can hang them on. And the thing here is that they don't indicate who it is, but ''what'' the fronter is. For example, we have 3 heart-shaped charms with the colors yellow pink and blue, and if the fronter is male, they can pick the blue one (bc of steriotypes blue is often associated with boys so yea) same for the other ones with female-pink and 'nonbinary, xenogender, etc..'-yellow. Then we also have ones that tell if the fronter is a little or big and if they're animal-alters, nonhuman-alters or introjects. And we also have ones for ''interect with care'' and ''interact with caution''.

We don’t intentionally indicate but it’s generally easy to tell who got us dressed (or who complained the loudest lol)

Thank you so much! We’re a rather recently discovered (suspected OSDD-1b) system, and for some reason it is sooo hard to find fronting indicator ideas online, we love the little key ring idea as it will be subtle enough to not make our super shy alter anxious. The hair clips are also a fantastic idea! Another idea we had that is a little bit more fancy is snap jewelry, little bracelets or necklaces with interchangeable snaps to show who is fronting, you can also get some for multiple slots for several snaps, which can be great for showing co-con members!

Just style of clothes can be a fronting indicator. I have seen this with other systems like TeamPiñata where one alter always wears glasses and plaid shirts, other always wears bandanas and dark clothes (and no glasses), etc. I don’t even need the subtitle about who is fronting: I recognize them just by how each one presents themselves. Of course, you would need to be in a safe place where you can present radically different “aesthetics” without confusing the people around you, LOL

@TheRingsSystem

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah! That too. It's just hard because 1. you can't change clothes when you're out and about, and 2. It's a lot of work haha. It's why youtube is a lil weird in that way, recording is often like presenting yourselves a certain way, and just like you would brush your hair or do your makeup before recording, alters put on their favorite clothes :)

We use lapel pins that each of us chose and one for alters who are new or don’t want to be named. Lapel pins are available on Amazon and can be found in a range of prices.

Thank you for the ideas! We've been talking with our husband about different ways we could start using indicators. This video came up just when we needed it! We were thinking about something to put on our wrist, but after watching we like the idea of putting something on our shirt more! -Missy (The Deku Sprout System)

We're thinking of making buttons! Although we're a fairly large system (around 30) and switch quite often with minimal dissociation, sometimes someone will front just to say one sentence and then leave again. So that could make things a bit difficult.

Oh this is really neat! I was going to ask if there were more subtle ways to do this but the hair-ties one seems subtle enough. I'm not sure if this will ever be relevant for us because at least for now we're strictly unsafe (our family is horribly ableist so we cannot let them know about our system and we currently have no friends IRL that we can see often enough that are safe to tell unfortunately) but God thinking about a future where we're safe enough IRL for people to know and care about us all instead of just the host is so encouraging. Thank you so much for the hope you give us with these videos!

@fuzzypanda5300

4 жыл бұрын

We care about you :)

Finn, our host, has thought about getting colored contacts for us. I feel like that's very noticeable, though we've never worn contacts before, so it might take come getting used to. It also might be expensive. - Tristan of the Quixotic System.

@TheRingsSystem

4 жыл бұрын

Oh that's so interesting! Let me know how it goes! -Silver

@finne0n

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheRingsSystem I will revisit the idea when I get my next paycheck, and update you (...if I remember)! :)

@finne0n

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheRingsSystem Okay, update! So we're a pretty recently emerged system and none of us front long enough (i.e. more than 2 hours, or days at a time) to make it worth it for us to have contacts for each of us at the moment. But maybe it's a good idea for another system!

@TheRingsSystem

4 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: Since this comment, we've ran into another system that uses colored contacts - not for each member, but for some of them!

@finne0n

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheRingsSystem Oh that's so cool!!

We’ve created a physical and digital spreadsheet and there’s an internal instant messenger so internally we use IM, externally we use the physical directory. If asked who’s on front we compare internal instant message status to directory and nitrify locally at request. Internal IM Status Icons: 🟢 Online 🔴 Busy 🔵 On The Phone 🟣 In a Meeting ⚪️ not logged in 🟠 Out to lunch 🟡 Out of office ⛔️ Do Not Disturb 💤 sleeping 💭Typing And other’s too numerous to describe. Our internal IM is kind of a global status boatd to know who’s doing what just like a buddy list on AIM or MSN (I’m dating myself)

One of my online friends is a system so I'm still discovering how to tell who's who. I'm just grateful they were willing to meet me. I'd been about to ask y'all for advice and then I found this video. Y'all are doing awesome with these videos. Thank you so much for making them

@TheRingsSystem

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!! ❤️❤️

I honestly just accepted my system after knowing for years and I really love the keyrings. We just bought a bunch and because we couldnt find enough variation in color and didnt want to deal with paint chipping we got a bunch of different colors or embroardery thread to wrap around the rings but leave the clasp available still for use. We plan on having all representation rings on at all times and using a chalkboard pendant to write the name of the person whos fronting and having a plain plate pendant to go next to it so that we can seperate those who are co fronting from those who are not. So we will have the name of the main person fronting and theyre ring in front of the pendant, co fronts rings behing that pendant but in front of the blank and everyone else behind that in order of whoever is closest observation wise. Im really excited to get it finished because then we will be able to accuratly show whos where with ease. Sometimes even we lose track of that so Im like extra excited. And we plan on being open with friends about whos actually out and ill probably just sent them a list on what means who soon. 😁😁😁

Hehe, Mona hangs our hair over her shoulder too Sim The Phoenix System

I know this could be expensive and I’m not saying you go out and buy a smart watch but if you already have one (for example we have a Fitbit) then you can change the straps of the watch to your favourite colour or design or pattern also because in our school we aren’t allowed accessories (bracelets, necklaces etc) we use pins that we put on the collar of our shirt or blazer, I hope this helps

We started doing this with our realizing in a way. As one alter always wears kitty ears, and one always prefers a hat, and a few are more prone to be out if I have my extensions or wig on. So in a way I used specific accessories with our realizing. But having one solid item to switch through that's discrete will be so helpful. My alters will still probably continue their specific accessories....but coming up with a method like these examples is super inspiring and honestly kinda necessary sometimes because it's crazy how people cant tell obvious differences, so this helps everyone. It helps with your own grounding and others to identify easily! Thank you soooooo much for this video!!@

🎲We've been working on different fronting indicators that would also work for our job since we have to be a Very Serious Business Woman (not that we're out at work, but still keeps us thinking about who's where) Right now we're gonna be experimenting with different colored watches, since you can get cheap silicone watches on eBay, and pocket squares since we wear a blazer to work :)

@stateyourthesis

4 жыл бұрын

What is it like working with this disorder? Does your employer know? Do co workers know? Could you do a video on it, if you haven't already? Thanks

This is really useful and I like the hair clip idea, It's not very obvious, so that if there are people that don't know you're a system you can still wear them publically and stay incognito if you have to. that way people that do know you're a system will know. Currently our system doesn't have this, but the other alters don't front as often. but I certainly love this idea. It could help friends and even the system itself keep track of daily life. I want to invest in starting something like this.

Thank you so much for these ideas. Our system currently uses personalized rings for those of us who have partners in our partner system so we have matching rings but we are currently looking into either getting rings for everyone or something that appeals to everyone - we have a fictive who is the only one that wears a watch we were given, and another who wears a bracelet that we had from our teenage years. these have given us some other ideas of easy and cheap things to look into! Thank you !!!

Hey, you guys may wanna turn up the audio levels just a touch. Silver is very soft spoken. Love the channel it is VERY informative. Have you all thought about getting into Psychology field after graduation? I assumed you guys are in high school.

@TheRingsSystem

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! We're writing our thesis on DID/OSDD, so we have a little bit of a headstart on your suggestion (:

@stateyourthesis

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheRingsSystem That is awesome! Good luck with your paper!

Ook. If 13 peops is "small," we might take a while to learn to recognise every one here since we lack the amnesia barriers- at least, unless there's another poor subsystem hidden from us. Hopefully we can form those boundaries: some aspects have thoughts which are fine to remember but can squick out other aspects if experienced realtime, so being able to more comfortably be up at the same time would be great! Privacy might be desirable for some parts, too. In our case, fronting indicators might be useful for helping every one recognise every one else internally, not just outsiders.

@TheRingsSystem

4 жыл бұрын

Still to this day we mix people up! We haven't finished figuring it out yet, so we haven't talked about it yet, but recently we realized that there's been 5 alters thinking they were Silver. It's always an adventure! (also, the average for systems is 20ish! But it can be all the way down to 2 alters and still be valid!) -Silver1 (because we don't have individual names yet, bc we're not focusing on that yet!)

@rainbowsprinkles4234

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheRingsSystem It's a relief to read that others experience the same sort of confusion too, and we hope you like to know that. Thank you. We presently just use our collective name with our hubsband when it's not entirely clear which of us is/are being referenced. (or "system name," "brainhold name," "human's name," etc. depending apparently on who's choosing, lol)

Thank you all! there are so many great ideas in this video and also in the comments section!! we've not done fronting indicators yet, but we can definitely see the usefulness of doing so. we are taking these idea on board so we can find something that works for us! thank you so much for sharing!

I wanted to be crafty and make something with those wooden letter tags from Michaels, but that didn’t give us the clean, clear look we were going for especially as we keep discovering new folks. I‘m thinking we‘re gonna spring for a pack of multicolored rubber wristbands on amazon, they‘re quite affordable and we found a set of 36 different colors. Another pro tip for systems a bit too big to all have different colors - you can each have a pair of colors, eg D wears a blue and a green band, L wears a blue and a black, etc. This rapidly increases the number of alters you can label even with only a few colors, and it retains the clarity that is lost if you are trying to distinguish two fairly-similar colors. You do lose the ability to show multiple fronters clearly, so take that into consideration.

OH! This gave me an idea, We wear this safety pin choker that has a pendant, on it for protection. I could paint some safety pins for indicators!

i just found your channel and I'm really thankful! you're really pretty and smart and cool! - flowering system (bee)

@TheRingsSystem

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! ❤️❤️

Thank you so much for these ideas!!! I have a feeling this might really help. I like the detachable pendant idea and bracelets. Very good for a little because it's super easy.

I really love the way you design the cover picture for these videos!

Keys on clips paint the key a different collor or even use sharpie on them wear as a necklace

This is awesome Silver! Your videos are great, and I somehow end up finding your content when a thought is right at the edge of existence! Exactly what I needed to get some wheels turning! Thanks!

@TheRingsSystem

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! I’m so glad they’re helpful

What works for my system is each of the 8 known alters has their own necklace charm that we clip onto a chain that we are always wearing and the charm has the alters first initial on it

You are so creative! Great ideas!

@TheRingsSystem

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Scrunchies! (one of us loves scrunchies but I don't think it'll work with us all)

Your videos have been the most helpful resource for me, thank you so so so much

this is a really good idea - we were just thinking of doing headscarf things to show ours :)

I stayed up till midnight once and when I woke up at 7am I looked in my journal and there was a children’s drawing. Probably one of my Littles xD

I love the clip idea!

This was a really helpful and informative video, thank you :-) Something I thought of for us, as we’re visually impaired and so colors aren’t always the best thing for us to go off of is enamel pins.

We plan on making those bead lizard keychain things once we’re out! It’s a bit childish, but who cares as long as we get to have some fun

This kinda gave me an idea to tell who’s fronting in our system, Since we have a ton of small beads and safety pins I was thinking maybe we could make safety pins with different coloured beads on them and use a piece of string and essentially make a changeable necklace. So say if I was in front I could put a safety pin on the necklace with my favourite coloured beads on it and if I switched with someone else, they could swap it for a pin with their colour on it! And it’s also fitting since our system name is Pin Point System lol - Clay

if you want somting with paint you can also use nailpolish this wil stay on even with body heat

we're a newly discovered system, and i find glasses really helpful. i believe i have 3 alters plus me, but they hint there might be more of us. as far as i know, our system manager M. wears screen protection glasses, and my social protector Th. wears any kind of crazy glasses we have. i, as a host, don't wear any. the little wears none as well, but she fronts extremely rarely. but obviously that is not very convenient since we cannot carry a bunch of glasses everywhere we go.

what if your system wants to be hidden to some people but not all? like if I were out with friends and someone asked why I had _____, I could have a convenient reason. but so then people who know of the system can still know who's fronting without it being obvious ? I like the button idea and instead of having names, different symbols or designs that each alter chooses

@TheRingsSystem

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah! Anything that doesn’t have names could work for that. Symbols, necklaces, or anything :)

Your videos have helped me a lot in understanding DID/OSDD. I do have a question though (idk if it's going to be worded very well tho). When you have an OSDD system, do you watch what happens and feel the different alters personalities through the body or, if you're the host, do you watch what happens through the body's eyes when you're fronting then when you switch it's like a blackout until you switch back in? I'm curious about this because from what I read, OSDD is like DID but with no amnesia so I'm curious as to how daily life looks like to the alters. I'm sorry if this is worded very badly

okay but those rings at 4:16 look so cool i would love to make some of those aAAA do you have a link to a tutorial or anything?

I have a question in a OSDD system I want to know are switched less frequent as DID system ? I Mean do DID system switch more frequently then OSDD system?

@TheRingsSystem

4 жыл бұрын

OSDD systems can switch either more or less frequently than DID systems. It really doesn't matter what type of system you are, but it just varies person to person! :)

@Goose_Schmidt

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheRingsSystem ok thank you for responding

I usually have different pieces of headwear such as wigs and hats for different alters.

You can use nail polish to paint metal or other materials

I wanna know something I've been wondering about for about a year or so. So at the beginning, when I was just getting to know the others, there was one called Jada...She didn't front that much because she was kind of annoying to people so she was either dormant or co-conscious with me (the host) or the others. After a while I noticed that she wouldn't talk as much anymore and she wouldn't stay in the front for too long and after a while she went completely silent. I'm kinda scared and confused because that's still how it is. Is that normal? Or can that happen to an alter?

Do you always know who's fronting? And when you didn't have your inner world yet, where were the alters when someone else was fronting? And as you have OSDD-1b and don't have the amnesia, do you sometimes notice that you switched at some point but didn't realize it until a few minutes later?

@TheRingsSystem

4 жыл бұрын

1. Not always! We actually have a grey clip for when we don't know who's fronting :) 2. Just kinda floating in the void 3. Yup!

@mistfall5478

4 жыл бұрын

​@@TheRingsSystem Hey, does that mean it's possible for someone to switch out but then not realise that they have straight away because they just weren't thinking about it? Sorry if it's a silly question, there's just so little info on OSDD-1b out there! xx

@TheRingsSystem

4 жыл бұрын

@@mistfall5478 Yeah! This isn't something we experience nearly as often, and is usually accompanied by dissociation and blurryness, but it can happen :)

@mistfall5478

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheRingsSystem Thanks so much for replying! I think I might have OSDD. Well, I know I have headmates but part of me just thinks I'm making it up, but this is one of the many things that makes me think I can't possibly have it so hearing that is helpful!

I think for us specifying who is out woukd be really hard since we switch so often and rarely are ever fronting alone. So ive been thinking about making this snap button bracelet with specific indicators like child non human pronouns, needs help. Something a lot of us struggle with is our senses chsnging when we front or who we are fronting with. So indicators like that woukd help those around us, even if they dont know who specifucalkt, figure out whats appropriate.

wow - cool idea - but i cracked up because i'm trying to imagine ohhhhhh over 50 hair clips on my clothing here or in pocket

How did u mad those rings? They’re so cool

@TheRingsSystem

4 жыл бұрын

Which ones? We didn't make the ones on our fingers, but the colored ones were key rings and embroidery floss :)

Should we need this if we have OSDD 1b?

@TheRingsSystem

4 жыл бұрын

Fronting indicators are never a "need!" It's a fun thing to do if your system wants :)

01 says "we are soooo goinna use this later"

Topic: Fronting indicators My mind: Wait 13 is a small system- wow

@deltatin2758

4 жыл бұрын

This coming from a system of 2 (possibly 3 but not sure)

@StormyRayneParade

3 жыл бұрын

I only have 3 confirmed rifht now (doesnt include me bc i was born in the body), but we are suspecting a little.