I made an updated video! Check out Part 2 here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oWt7m61rh8vYf9o.html Thanks for checking these out!

Dude, both of these amps (and guitar!) sound phenomenal. Clarity and space between notes. Love this vid. Let’s play!

1:34 Friedman 6:04 Marshall 2:20 Friedman 6:46 Marshall 3:06 Friedman 7:42 Marshall 3:40 Friedman 4:36 Friedman 4:58 Friedman 8:53 Marshall 5:32 Friedman 9:52 Marshall Ambos están geniales, pero me fascinó más el Jcm 800.

Those are some really nice tones you got there thrown in with some nice 90's era songs. No demos like this way back then. No KZread too. Excellent work. Subscribed

The open sound of the jcm 800 is very pleasing. Such a staple.

I love the JCM 800!

@michaeltrust5121

2 жыл бұрын

I prefer the super leads over the JCM 800 but that’s just personal choice. A Friedman BE-100 makes the Marshall sound like a lunchbox with a empty thermos rattling around inside. You really should try one, traditions were made to be broken

@musicproducer27

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaeltrust5121 Not into it. But, I'm glad you like them! Variety makes a much better world of guitar playing flavors for our ear.

Although it has less gain, the top end on the JCM sounded more harmonically rich to me, than the Friedman... but they both sound incredible!

The bb preamp I love this pedal, it sounded good on any amp I tried so far. Perfect video, not too much talking, and many riffs, played perfectly, good job !

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!

I love how you played songs, and didn’t just solo/noodle around the fret board. Solid video 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

Every time I start getting gas for a modern high gain amp, I watch a vid of a jcm and forget about them. Awesome vid man!

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks a bunch!

Very cool......thanks for taking the time to make a quality video.

Fantastic demo. You are an excellent player. That LP sounds amazing. You got a really good one there!

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

You do really good demos..bravo! This one, and the VH-2 & BE100 videos were awesome. Keep goin' brutha...

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks man. Really appreciate it.

JCM 800 is definitely more articulate. You hear every string and I would bet it will cut through a mix just fine.

Excellent vid my dude. Only note I would make is I think gear shootouts like this work better when you intercut the two amps, pedals, guitars whatever. So play a riff on one amp then switch to the other, then back to the first for the next riff then back to the second etc. Makes it much easier for the viewer to get a feel for how they stack up against each other! Other than that, great playing, beautifully recorded! All sounds awesome!

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks a bunch! I definitely hear you on the AB / AB style format. I was thinking about that when I was putting it together, but I was finding it a bit boring. I think ultimately you're right though! Regardless, thanks a bunch for checking out the video!

I just found this video. Instant Subscribe. I’ve been looking for this type of comparison for a while and this is awesome. I have a ‘79 LPC Silverburst, Friedman BE-100 (just before the deluxe came out) and a ‘76 Marshall JMP 2203. Very close to the same gear you’re using. If I had to sell one I’d probably opt for one of my kidneys. Awesome video man, I’ll be sure to check out your other videos.

@ZachWish

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Tom! Really appreciate you checking out the videos.

Absolutely the best of the best here, That silver burst is my dream guitar with the Brown Eye or 800 you cant go wrong. Always loved your videos buddy you have great tones and great playing.

@ZachWish

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Bob! Really appreciate it.

Congrats for the pleasent alternative riffs as Smashing Pumpkins and STP 😉. I was surprised there were almost no clean sounds or at least relatively clean sounds 🙃

Dear lord the BE-100 sound gnarly 🔥🔥🔥 this and the 5150 are easily my favorite amps on the planet

Very nice comparison video!! Both sound Great!

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Right on! Thanks a bunch.

In my ears the treble and presence departement sounds more convinient on the Marshall. Plus more focused audible mids. I think the reaction of playing these amps says a lot😉

Holy hell!!! Finally someone who demos using songs that I'd use in my own application in terms of tone. There is a god. Insta sub. Not to mention same guitar I use. This really helps.

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Right on! Appreciate the kind words. Thanks for watching.

Touche with the Rancid and Deftones! 🤗🤗 I prefer the JCM though, more string details & less compression; it relies more on your power picks for more drive, as well as simplicity & less is (always) more (at least for me). Cheers for the great riffing dude!

Really enjoyed this! Thanks

My Marshall JCM800 & my PEAVEY 6505+ are the best investments I’ve ever made. Love them both

You seriously should release that backing track! I dig it.

Best JCM / BE comparison I've heard.

Something about the bite, clarity, openness of the JCM800 makes it clear winner. The Friedman sounded great however all the knows and switches would be tying your own noose when playing out live.

Great comparison! Friedman sounds amazing, but not going to lie it sounded a bit compressed, Marshall was more open and had a bit of extra bite. I do like the "plexi cleans" on the friedman a lot. But you probably have to pay twice as much to get a friedman, migh tas well go for the real deal. Also Wangs makes a hand wired jcm800 that sounds amazing for 500 bucks

Hah! Loved the lil Rancid medley. Great playing and tone, can’t go wrong with either amp, I love my Small Box to death. Cheers 🍻

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Right on! Thanks a bunch!

@posarelli

4 жыл бұрын

That's why I own a Small Box and a 2203. Love Both. ❤

What a coincidence, I am so close to pulling the trigger on a silver burst on reverb and then this video pops up on my feed. Lol!

had the jcm and it was amazing... that being said, i bought a friedman combo for gigging as its easier to transport than a 1/2 stack...... never looked back. as far as getting a good mix in a venue, the friedman is effortlessly perfect everytime.

@turtleshell6181

4 жыл бұрын

on a side note_ bogner helios..... holy cow

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

I would love to check one of those out again. I only played one at NAMM for a few minutes which is not a great environment to check an amp out. Thanks for checking out the video!

@johnk-ht4yj

4 жыл бұрын

where do you gig during covid? asking for a friend.

@joemaxdenty783

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZachWish would love to hear you demo some Bogners like the 20th Anniversary Shiva amongst others. Never played through a Friedman or Bogner myself

The Friedman is insane but the JCM can get raunchy too. Really regret selling mine, even more so after seeing this video haha.

JCM 800 is perfection.

Idk if that‘s just me, but Plush is one of the best riffs to check if your Distortion sounds good. If it sounds harsh you have to change something. Great demo!

@ZachWish

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much. I feel the same way, definitely been a soundcheck riff haha.

So damn good either one of these amps is all anyone would ever need

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Love both.

Thanks for the awesome demo !. I prefer the Marshall !!

They both sound amazing! Great shootout!

I briefly owned a JCM800 in the mid 90s but because I had spent many years playing solid state amps, I was used to getting a good, high gain sound at low volume. The 800 sounded thin, buzzy & dry at low volume. I bought it cheap and quickly sold it cheap. Man I wish I still had it. However, I'm very happy now with my DSL40c. It's more versatile & higher gain than an 800. It also sounds great at reasonably low volume and it has built in reverb. It's the amp I always wanted. PS. I also had an early 70's metal panel 50watt head that a good friend basically gave me(for $200!). It sounded fμ¿king AMAZING! However, I severely hurt my back a year later and lost it in pawn. Although I regret selling the 800, it's that early 70's Marshall that still haunts me. She's the one that got away. Btw, Great tones here bro!

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Right on! Cool to hear you're digging the DSL40. Really dig that amp. They cover so much ground. Thanks for checking out the video!

Did not expect Rancid in this, but delighted.

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Love that record! Thanks for checking out the video.

If I blind fold myself and listen, it's the Marshall for me and I didn't expect that!

I know Iha plays a humbucker guitar but if you put a strat for 1979 I bet that Plexi channel would sound absolutely beautiful, good demo you usually get most out these amps!

Nothing beats that JCM 800 when it comes to Grunge rock and RATM!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻💪🏻🔥 it just sounds bigger and rounder. Love the BE100 too, it’s an animal no doubt. Just different tools for different things.

@O.mundo.emoçao

Жыл бұрын

With the JCM he used a boost. With Friedman he just changed from plexi sound to BE channel. Personally I think Friedman sounded a lot better.

@7n1s7er

8 ай бұрын

​@Omigueldageografia a LOT better? Nah, it sounded pretty identical

I was preparing for some crazy metal lead playing. Instead I was presently surprised by some good rhythm. Both killer heads, I think I like the Friedman.

@1thess523

4 жыл бұрын

I can't stand a demo that's 99% leads mainly because I'm just a simple rhythm pop punk and skate punk guitarist 😂, but leads also don't full show the amps full potential.

@Bobby_Uterus

4 жыл бұрын

Same, and agreed.

@Stefan-Van-der-Pulst

4 жыл бұрын

@@1thess523 You are right about that last part and I am guilty as charged for doing that!

@instrumentalist28

4 жыл бұрын

I personally find it harder to find good soloing tones than good rhythm, and for me soloing is a lot more fun than chugging two or three strings, that's why I usually test amps for 99% solo tones because I know once I find the sweet spot, all I have to do is turn down the mid and gain knobs and it's instant power chord mayhem bliss

You should try the suhr Celestion greenback irs. Really like how that sounded with my Friedman.

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Right on! I'll check them out. Thanks for the heads up.

you got that Smashing Pumpkins tone there...

I own both amps and they are great. If I had to have only one then it would be the Friedman for its versatility, and wailing tones. I should say that I also own the Marshall Jubilee which is a killer sounding amp too.

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

I agree with you on the Friedman. I'd love to check out a Jubilee at some point. I've only ever played one in a store real quick at low volumes, but it's been on my list of amps to check out for a while now. Thanks for watching!

@jackleyton5504

4 жыл бұрын

@@ZachWish you wont be dissapointed in the jubilee live or in the studio through a decent box like the OX. As a matter of fact i was blown away by the sound through the OX. Its a great amp.

@guitarexpert2245

4 жыл бұрын

It just never ends how many amps one can have. Fun! Have a Jubilee Mini, killer sounding amp and so small , easy to carry. Has EL34's unlike the all the smaller Friedmans , which have EL84's tubes.

Like always great playing spectacular sound love it. Way to go thank you very much

Loving the Aerosmith, cool demo!

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thanks for checking it out.

@user-qr7ee2cp4y

4 жыл бұрын

not JUST aerosmith... Done With MIrrors aerosmith. love that album! couldn't go with one of the easy ones like walk this way or last child could he?

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-qr7ee2cp4y Love Last Child. So groovy. Thanks for checking out the video!

Love the choice of music. Jcm i think had a more clear sound.

Great amps. For me I prefer the JCM 800. I think a 4210 risk to be more aggressive and modern than the Friedman.

FIRE! Plz review a PEAVEY TRANSTUBE NEXT THANK U FROM BELGIUM

Great choice of tunes you play to demo these fine rock amps. excellent. no silly blues wankering or impossible endless chugging.....just pure rock rythyms.

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Right on! Thanks so much!

Sick video. First time watching you. 5:30 rift? It’s familiar just can’t remember.

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! That's "Born of a Broken Man" by Rage Against the Machine. kzread.info/dash/bejne/mpuh0dyygt2oqKw.html Certified banger.

hey Zach, awesome sound and visuals, what camera and lens are you working with?

@ZachWish

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I use a Canon EOS R with a 24-70mm and a 50mm lens.

Awesome demo and playing as usual! What was the first riff you played with each amp?

@ZachWish

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! That's "Shame On You" by Aerosmith. Great tune. Thanks for watching!

@Andy-km3pg

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZachWish Cheers mate! time to learn it!

What year is that silver burst? Probably my favorite of all your guitars! Just scored a great deal on a mint 2012 Les Paul Custom in Ebony. Fairly confident it has a richlite board based on the serial number. Super cool regardless 😎

@ZachWish

6 ай бұрын

2007. Thanks for checking out the video!

@cshades8026

6 ай бұрын

@@ZachWish Nice bro! Have you done any mods or upgrades to it?

Very nice tones and great playing my friend. Did you used the IR or 2x12 cab / mic? What speakers are in the cab?

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much! In this video I'm using the Suhr Reactive Load and this IR: Celestion Neo Creamback 412 C Hi-Gn All+Room. I'm thinking about making a "Part 2" to this video, because I'm not super happy with that IR choice. I think it sounds a little too bright/brash. Happier with the tones I'm getting in this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qop9pdeuqci9ZcY.html. In that video I'm using a 57 on the Suhr Cab that has Celestion Creamback H75's.

@Kenmusicrigs

4 жыл бұрын

@@ZachWish Thanks.. Look forward to see it.. Always enjoyed your demo..!

Is there a modern marshall that does the superlead thing but maybe with master volume or other modern feauters?

There is a clarity about the Marshall that, as awesome as it sounds and as versatile as it is, the Friedman doesn't match.

I love em’ Both!!!

@These_go_to_eleven_1959

3 жыл бұрын

This man KNOWS how to solve a problem with making decisions!😁 I like your style,, BUY EM BOTH!👍

Both sound great, but I think I like the JCM better. Very rich harmonic content. Not as compressed as the BE

I read a lot of people saying Friedman’s don’t cut that well in a mix....which I think is largely user error. However, haven’t got to bring mine out since this Covid mess started. In your experience, is there a noticeable difference in live cut between these two?

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, definitely user error. If you're not cutting through with a Friedman, you're doing something wrong. They can both be dialed to be very up front sounding. They're pretty different amps though. The Marshall is very stiff and bold and the bottom end can get a bit loose as you push the gain up high, where the Friedman is a lot more pleasing under the fingers in my opinion. A boosted 800 is a pretty undeniable tone though! But I wouldn't worry about either amp cutting. They'll both get the job done. Thanks for checking out the video!

I like both but I'll take the Friedman since it's more versatile and probably more reliable.

it is true, that jcm800's fx Loop has a volume drop ? I ve got an evh 5150 III and im considering change it for an jcm800. But because i use a fractal fm3 throught the evh's fx loop im having second thouths about the marshall... the evh fx Loop is cristal clear =/

Great video! Two great amps! If you want the plexi sound, buy a plexi. If you want the 800 sound, buy that. If you want both in one box buy the Friedman. All beautiful amps! JT

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out! I've got a part 2 coming up soon!

@jtguitartv

4 жыл бұрын

@@ZachWish nice, I look forward to it. I subbed too.

Hai...Zach..your Riff and sound really crush my ear...🔥🔥...what is your pick up on your silver gibson...thanks

@ZachWish

3 жыл бұрын

They're the stock Gibson 490R & 498T pickups. Thanks for checking out the video!

Bravo! Is the od box Always on?

800 sounds glorious! Friedman is also amazing!

cool power chords!

Thanks to this video I went poor. And got me BE-50 Deluxe. Its amazing.

@ZachWish

3 жыл бұрын

Right on! Congrats on the amp and thanks for checking out the video!

@MyICONIC

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZachWish Yeah its a freakin mindbending piece of art!. All the possibilities with the 3 channels, gain switching and so on. I completely love it! I have never own an tube amp that lets me tailor every aspect of the sound in this manor. It can do all of the JCM800 to Plexi stuff and more. On top of that its very easy to find "your" sound. Im mainly playing it with my Gibson R8 LP, equipped with Dimarzio Super Distortion.

Both amps sound good. But they can sound great. What you have to do is to put 12AY7 pre-amp tubes. That will give you really fat tone and super focused. Right now tone is lost in too much gain as 12AX7 sound harsh here .2 Thanks for making this video.

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think this recording sounds a bit harsh. I made a part 2 here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oWt7m61rh8vYf9o.html where I think they sound a lot nicer. Thanks for checking out the video!

The Small Box is an outstanding amp, the channel switching seems to be just right. The 800 is still the business. Record with 800, gig with the friedman

Very well done Zach how would you like to be a guest on my weekly talk show that Aires on Facebook and KZread at the same time

Damn that smashing pumpkins was perfect!

@CreeplessOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t think so, but it sounds nice

Rad comparison!! Both rock!

Personally i would go with the friedman just because of the build quality, but both are just phenomenal.

Yeah you're getting a sub from this pop punk and skatepunk rhythm guitarist here 👍. Nice quality demo (sound and visual)

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks a bunch bud!

@1thess523

4 жыл бұрын

@@ZachWish you bet, what's funny is your videos remind me of my buddy Sam Cavelo aka 90's punk covers so i was going to send one to him but I see he already follows you on Instagram 👍 ( i do now 😁)

Marshall sounds more articulate in single notes and cords but the freedman has more hair and its always best to back off it a little bit especially in a band setting too much drive doesn't mix well with all the other frequencys makes it harder for me to hear what I'm playing. Maybe its just me.

@qua7771

2 жыл бұрын

So true. Also, when I hear isolated guitar tracks, I usually notice less gain than I thought was in the mix. I'm not sure why that is. The band makes the guitar seem dirtier.

Both sound great. What is that riff at 4.00? I know it but have gone blank.

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Plush - Stone Temple Pilots

Man its real hard choice. Because i like the natural knock and tone of all marshalls up to the 800 series. And other amps based off the marshall transformer power section. So, do i spend $3000 on a friedman BE 100 deluxe? With multi channels and options? Or do i buy a new 2203X? Other thing is..... all the options on the friedman, im only going to be settling and playing mostly that one favorite overdrive distortion tone. So, do i buy a Marshall the real thing? Or? Hmm? Because really, the 800 here does seem more articulate and has a higher mid-snarl we all love. Or honestly, im thinking just settle for Marshall JVM 215C as in the peach guitars video demo of that amp. Do i really need 100 watts? I like the sound and tone in that video and the footswitching options capable of storing your settings. And, i can still use the the JVM on my 4x12 Marshall vintage cab w- 25 greenbacks. Basically playing in our basement studio and some outdoor small stage band jams. Im 59. Love all old classic and hard Rock. Can be very frustrating picking and choosing when chasing tone. Uug! Lol good video!

A volume pedal for the 800 will open up a whole new world for you and that amp. The 800 with a volume pedal to clean it up and a od pedal to kick it up a notch will sound way better and be way cheaper than the Friedman....

@guitarexpert2245

4 жыл бұрын

This is so true. The only beef with the 800 is it has to be cranked too loud for it to thicken up by then it's just ear piercing. The 'Friedmans i don't think have this issue. But tone wise .... 800's. They were recorded on more records than one can imagine.

JCM by miles but i may be a bit biased i have a 86 2204 and also enjoy the BB pre amp along with it ,,

Where you boosting the Friedman with the BB or just the 800?

Hey is that Roots Radicals at 3:08? Edit: Your riff choice is so vast in this video. AMAZING demo. Also, sweet Custom! I just got a used 90’s white custom that’s getting worked on by a tech in less than two weeks. TUSQ Nut etc. it’s already that Randy Rhoads Marlboro color. Can’t believe it’s mine \m/

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Hah! Yep, Roots Radicals. Love that whole record! And yes! Tough to beat a white Custom. I'm on the hunt for one at the moment. Thanks for checking out the video.

Veddy nice veddy nice

The Marshall just has the correct mid tone bite.

If you ever made Kemper packs i'd buy them all

Your playing is disgusting. Super precise. You had me at the My Own Summer riff.

Friedman kills it,But you can hear how far ahead of its time the jcm 800 was 30 plus years . I agree, a stereo rig would be incredible. What pickups are in the les paul ?

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely! The LP is stock with the 498T and 490R pickups.

@guitarexpert2245

4 жыл бұрын

@@ZachWish That's what I have in my Les Paul. I won't change them. High gain and can back off get great cleans.

@Stefan-Van-der-Pulst

4 жыл бұрын

The Marshall wasn't far ahead (in the eighties), it lacked gain. You can merely get an AC/DC sound with it. You have to get some type of boost pedal in front. If it was far ahead they would have built it in..or add an extra gain stage. I know these amps so well, I used two of them in the eighties. In fact, Marshall was behind in the mid to late eighties.

@guitarexpert2245

4 жыл бұрын

@@Stefan-Van-der-Pulst That's not totally true. I don't recall what kind of guitar pickups were around then. However, I have a 2204, and once the master volume get past 5 with my Les Paul with Gibson 498's in it, does more than AC/DC. But yes a boost helps.

@Stefan-Van-der-Pulst

4 жыл бұрын

@@guitarexpert2245 First, past five on a 2204 or 2203 is ear blistering loud. You won't hear your drummer. And still, at that level you will have a bit more gain (output tube distortion) but not enough for metal. I used Dimarzio Super Distortions and later Duncans JB's, high output pu and still had to boost my 2203 with whatever I could get my hands on.. The 2204 I later had would break up a little sooner but I missed the punch and headroom from my 2203. In 1987 I bought the silver Jubilee but sold it after a few months. Didn't quite like the voicing although it had more gain.. But by that time all kind of amp and rack gear manufacturers had already surpassed Marshall.

How’s the taper on the newer Marshall Amos? Decent at home volume?

@ZachWish

2 жыл бұрын

Nice smooth taper on the newer Marshalls that I've played. Especially so on the Silver Jubilee, to the point that I was wondering if something was wrong with it haha. That amp didn't start getting decently loud until the master was around 11 or 12 o'clock which isn't like any other Marshalls that I'd played. Great amps though! Thanks for watching.

The 800 sounds more articulate and warm. Friedman too compressed.

800 and bbpre putting a world of hurt on the Friedman!!

The Friedman sounds a bit brighter, but otherwise they both sound very similar. Both are excellent amps that really fit your playing style and influences. I'd think in a 2 guitar band, these would play well together, but hey since you have the gear, run them in stereo and let it rip!! Keep up the great work, your videos are excellent.

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks a bunch for the kind words. I agree with everything you said. It's funny though, in the room, the Marshall is a bit brighter to me, but very similar. My main band is a trio, so I'm always looking to sound as big as possible. Stereo rig is the dream, but I haven't mustered up the energy to bring two heads and cabs to a show yet! One of these days.

So hard to beat the versatility of the 800, especially if you add in an overdrive and even a modern effects loop.

@qua7771

2 жыл бұрын

The Friedman circuit has an extra switchable gain stage in front that has the same effect as boosting with pedals.

I love your videos but you mention that you didn’t clean the high end up. Part of the reason I think is that those Neo Creambacks have an awful splatty high end in reality and the IR is going to emphasize that.

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

I agree! I've actually been planning to do a "part 2" to this video for that reason. At first I was thinking it would be cool to have it raw, but now I'd rather hear the smoother, more pleasing top end. Thanks for the comment and checking out the video!

Yah but WT F knows what he’s playing through and if there is a pedal in the chain etc... Good riff choices and gotgeous LP.. I want it.

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Full signal chain is in the video description.

Can you do this with the Friedman and a Ceriatone AH Deluxe?

@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

If I ever get my hands on one, definitely!

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@ZachWish

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Stephen! Got a bunch more vids coming.

JCM 800 sound great with two or three in series LIVE turned up more than half way. But Friedman just has them beat if just for consistency in build/tone quality. JCM's tone is not the same on every unit. Friedman? you can bet on it. I'll stick with My Mesa MarkV. for right now though.....although its in the shop again LOL. great tone & chops. You'd make any band better.