I really enjoyed having saltwater tanks. Lost a reef while a friend was taking care of it while on vacation. Took me out of the hobby for a while. Now large heavily planted freshwater is what I’m intro these days. Large schools of fish are awesome.

@highbrass7563

2 жыл бұрын

Yesss, I adore large heavily planted tanks

@azrael7200

2 жыл бұрын

My story is about the same... 😂 😢

@poor_mansreef8908

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah ive come to learn with a reef that if your going to be gone for a week max its beat to just have your auto top off container filled up and dont even worry about feeding the fish. Anything longer like 2 weeks a reliable auto feeder is good and someone to come by and just top off the ato container if needed.

@bloxanaterlegostopmotion1409

2 жыл бұрын

Same, sorry for your loss

@jameswiedman8379

2 жыл бұрын

Green is very relaxing.

We are blessed to have a little slice of nature in our lives no matter what.

As somebody who keeps both, fresh is SOO MUCH EASIER. My fresh tank it’s self contained and I haven’t done anything aside from add water in over a year, my reef tank takes weekly maintenance, but I love both of them equally.

@zakosist

2 жыл бұрын

I keep freshwater fish (200 liter aquarium) but still change water weekly just in case and want my fish to be as healthy as possible. But is that not really needed?

@brandonclaflin5213

2 жыл бұрын

@@zakosist it depends, my fresh system is beyond heavily planted and is only guppies. They are omnivores so they eat the plants and roots encouraging growth, which creates a really nice ecosystem that is forever changing

I setup a freshwater tank 1 year ago. I use to sit and stare at it for literally hours. That being said, I’ve recently setup a reef tank and I find myself much more drawn to it. If you’re thinking about switching to saltwater, I 100% recommend it. Newcomers don’t be afraid! Maintaining a reef tank is kinda like raising your first child, initially it can be hard and definitely requires attention to detail, but over time you really get use to it and it becomes much easier.

@matthewpetersen4417

Жыл бұрын

Be careful it gets addicting the salwater tanks, there's so much you can do!!!

@Yofuggindaddybich

6 ай бұрын

I did saltwater for a decade it got old for me

@Mr.Lawton534

5 ай бұрын

@@Yofuggindaddybichalot of work huh?

Whenever I have the urge to have a salt water tank, I go to our favorite seafood restaurant where they have a huge salt water aquarium on display. Clown fish, blue tang, puffer fish, an angel or two, parrot fish, squirrel fish, sea urchin, and more are cruising in and out of a reef. The whole thing is magnificent and professionally maintained. Then I go home to my fresh water aquariums that make me happy in Pennsylvania.

Always go fresh first. You have to make sure you’re able to do the maintenance and fresh is much more forgiving. I tried SW back in the day and it was too much and ended up losing $300 in livestock. Did FW for a while and now moving onto my first reef. Finally feel educated enough.

@dinosaurpro6592

Жыл бұрын

Tbh I'm only doing fresh to practice for salt.

@yurigaming4068

Жыл бұрын

You are lucky you only lost 300 for a saltwater crash. Some corals cost more than that for a single polyp. And some corals would just decide to die without any apparent reason. 😂

@dinosaurpro6592

Жыл бұрын

You don't need experience in fresh for salt. Very helpful but not a must have.

@LukeBurl22

Жыл бұрын

@@dinosaurpro6592 my first tank was a saltwater reef. Never had a freshwater tank and it thrived for over 3 years

I've been recently getting into the fresh water, hobby what got me into it was I saw it as an extension of plant care: I saw all these really cool planted aquariums and I needed to build one. Salt water looks amazing and I'm always really impressed, but for me nothing beats a green aquarium.

@huum4430

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it's impressive those beautiful, colorful corals and fishes. But in my house, I feels better with green plants

@janmalini2293

2 жыл бұрын

Look into macroalgae, not necessarily plants in a traditional sense but its some very unique and diverse greenery in the saltwater hobby

@Trashalchemy

2 жыл бұрын

@@janmalini2293 Yes! And mangroves!!

@planetarybeat473

2 жыл бұрын

There’s probably thousands of green corals lol

@abrqzx

Жыл бұрын

@@huum4430 Corals are animals not plants tho. So in a saltwater tank, y’all are just taking care are the animal inhabitants while freshwater tanks have both the fauna and the flora

I had both Reef and Freshwater aquariums and you're definitely right about the delicate of having a Reef tank. Anxiety sometimes struck me on my reef.

My local fish store has had their coral frag tank quarantined for like 6 months because there's a bit of hair algae and the owner is terrified of the reef snobs who will freak out if they see a single filament in their precious tanks... Personally, I like having a bit of algae as long as it doesn't overgrow my corals. I'm trying to create a realistic aquatic environment, not a sterile show piece.

My roommate has salt water tanks. I have freshwater. Whenever I go to do something for my tank, like cleaning the filter, putting in plants, rinsing something off, whatever, he always has to “give me advice” then proceed to mansplain how to do stuff I already know how to do. He thinks because “saltwater” is harder that means he knows more than me about how tanks work. Obviously not everyone who is into saltwater is like that, but man, he’s a snob about it.

I agree with the points made in this video. I'm almost 70, and have kept freshwater since my teens. In the 80's I dove into saltwater. Even kept an octopus. However, I lost $1000 worth of fish over a couple of days due to ich. Devastated, I dropped out of the hobby for 30 years. Last year I returned to the hobby doing a freshwater planted nano tank. I'm enjoying fishkeeping again. I will never do saltwater again.

@Satoru_stardust

Жыл бұрын

Aww im sorry about your salt tank, but its good you came back to the hobby. I hope everything is going great!

@dinosaurpro6592

Жыл бұрын

It looks like you should chose fish that are good for begginers; even with a tight budget saltwater is much more mesmerizing.

We are currently attending Macna Aquatic Expo which traditionally was a saltwater only event. This is the first year freshwater was invited and we gave the only booth! Getting to talk to the reef folks this weekend has been great! There are going to be quite a few shows this year from what we heard that are going to now incorporate freshwater, so I think this may be the start of something beautiful!

I’ve recently got myself a reeftank after being in the saltwater hobby for a while. A freshwater setup is much easier to keep and maintain for sure. And there are many cool freshwater fish aswell. That being said, there is something special about keeping a reef in your own home.

In Scotland. Salt water peeps are the nicest folk. No snobs here. All great to go to for issues, problems and general advice. I found them a great community and great help when I was dipping into salt water....... but due to health I opted back for severums.

One thing I like with freshwater tanks is that most species are raised in captivity. Catching fish in the wild involves a lot of unintended mortality.

The two main barriers for me are money and maintenance. Don't get me wrong, I'm neither poor nor lazy. I spend quite a bit on my freshwater tanks and I love to fiddle around with them whenever I have the time. But this all just lets me know that I'd spend way more on saltwater and spend a lot more time being anxious about my fish. Planted tanks just take care of themselves.

@cesarsalazar8618

2 жыл бұрын

If I'm trying to make a planted aquarium, do I need to take out the activated carbon?

@typicallyusual6984

2 жыл бұрын

@@cesarsalazar8618 That would be best yes, especially if you're dosing fertilizer :) If you still want something like it, then Seachem Purigen would be good, though I personally don't use it and do not think it's necessary. Let me know if you have any more questions!

@Learning_The_Human_Mind

3 ай бұрын

I used to run a 20 gallon nano reef in 2020 as a Junior in high school. Spent more than I’d admit. With SW there’s just way more you have to worry about in a delicate ecosystem - way more testing, dosing, tuning your dose, coral disease, coral pest, pest algae, pest hitch hikers, stability, quality lighting. Taking your eyes off is not an option. That said, I freaking LOVE the saltwater hobby. I’ve been debating to set up a tank, honestly I’ve been feeling impulsive. My issue is I get too anxious, and too caught into trying to learn everything it affects my schedule. I’m just not built for it, especially as a young adult looking to grow in other areas. I truly believe it has to be a lifestyle I have a 55 gallon freshwater I enjoy maintains however, it’s almost plug and play

There are a lot of fish being aquaculture now. There are no longer any wild caught Clown Fish (Nemo) or Yellow Tangs in the hobby any more. Also many more and a lot of us have decided to buy only aquacultured fish for in our aquariums.

@Monocle2

2 жыл бұрын

I remember reading last year that even some Butterflyfish are beginning to be aquacultured. Shows you how far things have come. Double good too, since once they become more common, you will get fish used to eating a diet that can can be more easily provided.

@foogoid8682

2 жыл бұрын

I noticed that part, too. He mentioned most salt water fish being wild caught, while showing clown fish. These are being bred to the point that color variations and “designer” patterns are now available. Another fish prominently featured in the video are lion fish, which are invasive and destructive in many areas. You might even get a bounty for removing them. And many fresh water fish are mostly wild caught as well. For example otocinclus and kuhli loaches are all wild caught to my knowledge (and many die before they even reach your LFS). To me, it’s neither a point for/against fresh or salt water, but to be aware and research what species you get. Personally, I don’t like to buy fish that do not readily reproduce in captivity. Because if we cannot produce conditions for breeding, then we probably don’t keep them adequately.

I remember seeing this humorous tag on a beautiful salt water reef tank at an aquarium show sometime ago! It said:”This is not a hobby, it’s a full time job!”

loved the video and as a saltwater guy I promise that from now on I will try to make more of an effort with freshwater people.

I've watched both videos and I think the only way to settle this is for you and Jake to have an arm wrestle 😅

I’ve had both fresh and saltwater, and I like both. Two things that are also nice about freshwater fish and where not listed in the video is you can keep bigger fish relative to the tank size. The other thing, particularly with cichlids, you can find fish with significant personality.

I kept many saltwater fish in the mid-80's with just a canister filter and regular water testing. Love them, miss them!

@bovice1766

Жыл бұрын

Exactly it doesn't have to be that complicated and expensive. Filter, heater and lights... done.

I am a fish keeper since I was a kid, had them on and off throughout my life. Got fresh fish tanks I got my first reef tank about a year ago, no way you can compare them, if you like challenges, salt water is a endless path of constant battles, all and everything said in this video is truth but he fail to mention, it's so rewarding the fact you can keep a very complex ecosystem clean and going is like symphony master piece orchestrated by yourself, that feeling can't be achieved by fresh water and I repeat I have them both

I'm just starting my first marine tank. I've always wanted to do so, but finally decided to go for it. I'm not going the sump and protein skimmer route though at some point I may add a HOB skimmer. I'm running an Aquaclear HOB and have a power head for additional flow. It's a very low tech 20 gallon nano reef. Since my focus is on corals I only plan on having a few small fish and a invert clean up crew. My first fish is actually a gold dust molly who is clearly the queen of the tank. The aquarium is only two months old so livestock is sparse but so far so good. There's more parameters to test and I'm a bit neurotic when it comes to making sure I'm doing weekly water changes, otherwise it hasn't been that different from keeping my planted 38 gallon freshwater. I've even added some macro algae (seaweed) to my reef because I'm a plant geek. I have my aquariums flanking my TV and I love the contrast between the fresh and saltwater environments. I'll probably always lean more towards freshwater because of cost and ease, but I'm loving the idea of my colorful saltwater garden.

Cool video. Just started fresh, wanted salt, eventually. You made excellent points. Does not deter from wanting salt, but it will probably take me a decade to build the confidence to attempt such a feat. FYI, if your ever near Charleston, SC, there's an amazing shop called Ocean Realms in Goose Creek. Small, but incredible tanks. She even has seahorses! I've got all my fish there because they are so happy and healthy. Your videos have helped so much! Thanks for all you've devoted to these creatures!

I have a reef tank and an African cichlid tank too and In general the reef tank is easier to maintain once everything is stable and not very labour intensive

@racingbeats1493

2 жыл бұрын

How long have you had it? Definitely the opposite for me

@sobeit5857

2 жыл бұрын

@@racingbeats1493 have had the cichlid tank for about a year and the reef tank for about 6 months, at the 3 month mark everything got stable

Thank you. I will be going with the fresh water... I think you really saved me a headache.. it is appreciated 👍

I’ve done freshwater my whole life and was afraid of saltwater. One day I got bored and decided to try saltwater and never looked back. Saltwater is soooo easy. Just gotta take that first step. Great video though !!!

@corbincordell1878

2 жыл бұрын

So is freshwater but fresh water is way easier then salt water

@annebartells777

2 жыл бұрын

I've done fresh water for 50 years, now I do salt. I prefer salt. The difficulty of a salt water tanks lands in what type of livestock you want. I grow sps corals and that is very challenging. Sps reefs tends to be the most expensive as far as the equipment is concerned

@3ghostman332

2 жыл бұрын

@@annebartells777 I basically went with the easiest coral to keep alive so I can be as lazy as possible and do as little water changes as possible. So far so good. Also here in California the power is constantly going out for 24-48 hrs at a time so it helps having easy to keep livestock.

@annebartells777

2 жыл бұрын

@@3ghostman332 I here you there. Salt water is just so addicting

@corbincordell1878

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not about being scared it’s about saltwater being a little more complex where as freshwater is way easier to maintain

I just got into a fish keep hobby a year ago with a betta. Now I have a 20 gallon community tank, 5 gallon betta tank, and 1 gallon shrimp jar. I really enjoy my fishes and enjoy learning more about them. I want to set up a 10 gallon saltwater tank and keep a single baby clownfish and then eventually upgrading to a 20 gallon when space becomes available.

Before I watch I'm going to comment through experience to compare, I have had a 90-gallon reef with a 30 sump for years now. It is extremely expensive! Not to mention how fast you can mess up an established reef with one addition. Every fish was $80 and up, each coral was $20 and up(this is an addiction) not to mention the 100 pounds of live rock at $15 a pound. $350 light, wave makers, heaters etc. I spend $55 a month on a bucket of salt, I have a science kit just to make water changes, and all these socks, stones, carbon, I'm getting exhausted. There's a reason I'm changing over. I will be setting up the 180 for my Oscars, they are still very very small and will move accordingly.

After we complete our apartment downsizing move, we are thinking of installing 2 tanks, a 20 gal. long & a 10 or 15 gal. Tank to serve as a quarantine tank or nursery. It’s been 40 years since we had tanks, so we are basically newbies again & need to decide - fresh or salt. This discussion has been quite helpful, & it’s likely leading us back to fresh. We still have time before deciding, so all comments & information will help. Budget is a factor. Thank you for posting this.

I started in Freshwater, then I went to a reef tank. I had it for about 3 years, then I had to move from WI to ND. I did not think it wise to move the whole thing, so I sold it. I then bought a bigger tank and went into Discus. I miss Saltwater, but not sure I will ever go back.

I liked your video. I had a 30 gallon saltwater tank in the 1980’s. This was before all the high technical things that are in the tanks today. My tank was crystal clear all the time. In my tank I had 2 Cowries, 1 Pacific Giant Green Anemone, 1 Pistol Shrimp, several Peppermint Shrimp, 2 Cleaner Shrimp, 1 Arrow Crab, 4 Mollies, several Guppies, 2 Clown Fish, one oyster, and 2 clams. The oyster and the clams came from the grocery store…honestly! I dipped some tank water out into a container to put them into so their temperatures could equalize. I put them back into the tank where they thrived! I will stop at this point however if you would like more information on the filters and so on just leave a comment to this one. Thanks LAM

I just wanted to let you know, the new website looks REALLY cool! I can't wait to have some room to get some betta fish from you guys!

i'm now a both freshwater and saltwater aquarium hobbyist. Its hard but just seeing them both makes feel at ease. I'm now trying to have an aquarium brackish you know where the river meets the sea

I have a 40 breeder, with a hob tidal filter you recommended me. It’s been great, no skimmer no sump. 2 years running strong, good coral growth and happy fish. No skimmer just means more water changes and less fish in your tank

Yeah I know that feeling I have a big reef that’s cost me close to 10k on 1 tank but it’s worth every penny and the satisfaction from it is so worth it

@RomeosReefAquarium

2 жыл бұрын

Yes the satisfaction and relaxation is great!

I really enjoy your videos John and totally agree with you I have had fresh water for approx 20 years my latest 3 for the past 14 years and I stick to fresh and love plants 🌱 😂 My ex kept a 10 foot reef marine for many years and after watching him basically live in the tank it shyed me off salt . Fresh water 💦 are still work when dealing with larger tanks and fish 🐠 but I agree reef, with corals fish and anemones are a one step up With your thought about keeping wild fish 🐠 I always felt that way until watching videos from Heiko in Colombia that so many fresh species are dying out due to loss of natural habitation it is vital we keep species alive Absolutely have a lot of respect for your videos and you definitely hit the nail on the head !!! Huge hello from Australia Nat 🐠 🐠🐠🐠🐠🐠🐠🐠 Look forward to your next

I think you will love North Carolina. I lived there 3 yrs. and I loved it in Jacksonville. But Im from Northern NY and really love the snow. Snow won! Congratulations on your and Lisa's new Journey!

I live in FL and I like keeping native fish. I’d love to do a FL saltwater marsh grass tank, but it seems like unless you want to do reefs there aren’t resources.

You bring up some good valid points John. I kept Central & SA cichlids for 22yrs before I made the switch to the salty side. The cost of maintaining a reef is definitely more costly than freshwater. I find the show stopping colors in saltwater a lot more appealing than fresh but also to see a planted tank is very amazing as well.

I was a freshwater hobbyists for about 20 years.... About 5 years ago I decided to go saltwater and never looked back. It's a lot of fun and more enjoyable in my opinion than anything the freshwater hobby can provide to me.

My brother has had aquariums for decades. He currently has saltwater, and the aquascape was incredible, corals, live rock, the full shebang. Truly beautiful 😍 but I'm just getting into freshwater, as I'm a reptile girl, obviously I have a turtle in mine. Real fun building a community tank for him with little fish. I've got some shrimp, snails, neon tetras, a bristle nose pleco and 6 corydoras. The snails weren't exactly the best idea though, as they can't move out of the way in time, and sadly ended up as a snack. Other than that though I'm very pleased with everything and it's a perfect little ecosystem! My live plants, sand, large river stones and driftwood look pretty good too 😃 Moving them all into a 600 litre 6 foot long very soon! Which I can't wait for 😁

I have four freshwater tanks. I love them. So easy to maintain. And just as beautiful in my opinion. Great video!

I have kept a few freshwater tanks and currently have a CO2 planted freshwater. Reef tanks have completely changed the hobby for me and I will never go back. So many different animals fill specific niches and they all look unique and incredible. Coral adds such an amazing variety as well. The industry is also going towards captive bred as well. This was mentioned but the most popular fish, clown fish, are all captive bred. You can search many seller by captive bred but in general at this point yes, freshwater still has a lot more captive breeding. My lfs also only sells aquacultured coral aka they grow their own and don't buy any wild caught.

Please make a video with all of your aquariums ... I really wanted to see that ... Also I think it will be a very good memory for you guys .

Awesome video! Very interesting to learn about the different aquarists being somewhat segregated. I love fishkeeping and have both fresh and salt tanks. 100% agree with the major differences between the two. Varieties of marine species are not easy to get a hold of (even living in Hawaii due to strict buying/catching regulations). I lived in NC for a while and even they had more marine animals available than here lol. Tyvm for the great videos and I hope you and your wife are able to continue educating and entertaining us fish lovers for many years to come! 🙏

Had both Freshwater tanks and now Saltwater reef tanks, and although you were right that Saltwater in general can cost more, there’s certain advantages SW has over FW. I enjoy simple maintenance and nano setups. The biggest dealbreaker for me is that FW can have mold buildup overtime and I have allergies. I’ve never had any mold issues with SW. Lastly, there’s a few things mentioned in the video that aren’t true. All of my nano reefs never use protein skimmers. In fact, SW or Reef tanks with protein skimmers have the danger of being too clean and getting dinoflagellates which is really bad. Also, there are a lot of common SW fish you can buy online that come from farms, not wild caught. Look up ORA for instance.

Hey folks, so I used to only keep freshwater tanks, goldfish specifically. But since I was a child I always at a point keep a volitan lionfish (min 75gal). Last week I purchased the volitan and if you're only doing fish the only difference is literally salt and a refractometer. I still keep both fresh and saltwater and they're both amazing and the fish from both sides of the hobby have crazy and awesome personalities. BTW many reasons for the volitan, they're awesome, they're really intelligent and b/c they're invasive I technically rescued my volitan. I named him Shaggy Rogers. I love ALL my fishes the goldies, my Oscars and my volitan I LOVE EM ALL ❤️ 💕 💗 ♥️

I agree with most of the points. Saltwater has the wow factor, but I have a job and family which means freshwater fits me. I figure if I had the income to go saltwater, I am hiring a company to maintain it. I also looked at my freshwater tanks and saw the algae the eaters can’t keep up with. Where did I put that scrapper.

@DirtNassty

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but IMO... paying someone to maintain your tank takes the fun out of it! Half the fun (for me) is doing the maintance, cleaning stuff up, helping my fish thrive. It's so rewarding. I understand alot of people don't love the hobby enough to do the maintance but want a tank in their house for decoration etc... So for them yes that's the way too go, but most of us love the maintance part! 😁👍

@hurricanevolf7165

2 жыл бұрын

@@DirtNassty Yes it's true. I didn't think I would but I really enjoy the cleaning of my freshwater tanks.

@DirtNassty

2 жыл бұрын

@@hurricanevolf7165 absolutely! It gives me my personal time away from hectic life and I whole heartedly enjoy keeping my fish happy and thriving!

@curtiscrump7153

2 жыл бұрын

@@DirtNassty for me I have enough work to do. Taking care of a thousands of dollars of fragile environment is why I would do it. I don’t enjoy cleaning anything, tanks included. It something I have to do and I have the freshwater down to less than 30 minutes, not enjoyable minutes.

@sdghtjsdcgs

2 жыл бұрын

Refugiums and auto top offs have made it more or less the same for me, between salt and freshwater.

the cool thing John is that the hobby grows as your knowledge and experience grows, and exploring the saltwater is in my humble experience just a-natural progression. This started by getting my son an Oscar , and it grew as we learned about water changes, ph, acclimation, nitrogen cycle and tank husbandry. For us its been a natural progression to quench this curiosity and love that comes once you get involved in the life aquatic. There is no better or worse, but if you study fish, you see that there’s just ones that are living in freshwater there’s ones to live in brackish water the rest in the sea. There’s no way that you can get involved in this hobby, and be any kind of a thinker without pondering the fact that we may just be a fish tank for some alien creature

Super Video John and Lisa! Never had much interest in Salt water tanks but it’s great to know it was the right idea to start with freshwater!🐠😁🤩

I assure you a successful saltwater tank can be VERY simple and cheap. I've got a 10 gal reef tank that cost under $100 to start including lights and it's been wildly successful for over 4 years

I have both. My planted is so low maintenance I barely even feed the fish at this point and they are thriving. But even that one, I never had a moment were it was change the water immediately or have a crash and everything dies. Salt, that does happen, and yes, I am one who buys the premixed water cus if you gotta get the RO anyways than you might as well just get the salt too. This happened last week on Monday actually and I thought I had enough saltwater to fill it back up, nope. And apparently all the stores (which are pretty far already) were all closed! I ended up driving 2 hours just to go find salt water! Plus the drive back. And I live in Florida where there are a bunch of fish hobby stores. Salt tanks are def when you have more time and disposable income. But I always will have fresh tanks. One for every room! lol I also watched the other salt vs fresh vid. :)

Hey John so I am a salt water to reeder . And I want to tell you I love watching you and Lisa. Because Lisa I got me a sorority beta tank. I love you guys and I will see you at AquaShela in Chicago this year. Love you guys!

As a beginner in the hobby i have been told by some who do reef tanks that the entry level complexity between fresh and salt is massive. And that is the just starting out in salt. I personally want to keep a salt water tank to keep a toby puffer because i love how they look but I'm sticking to my freshwater oscar and jack dempseys for now.

I totally agree one of my clients asked me to build a 200 gallon saltwater and I ask him y he said it’s gorgeous I told him u know how much work u going to put on it ? He said work?? I was like yeah work and love to have a salt water reacquainted a lot of experience He was like never mind then I was like if u do want a tank I can do it for u but u got to show me how much interested u have to keep one otherwise I can give u better option he was like better option? Yeas we look at salt water tank because of color and beauty they are they look much more fun to have them But if u see a planted fresh water with discus u might change your mind of fresh water Then I showed him one of my discus that a keep for my self he was totally amazed by the art and landscape he told me he never thought the a fresh water could be so beautiful I told him I love fish fresh salt don’t matter but if u a beginner on fish u should go for fresh first so u see how much work u have to put into it he agreed and now he got a tank tha looks better then my over a few days ago I asked him once you tank die let’s do a saltwater tank ? He was like man I kind felt in love with fresh I will one they but I do want to keep my discus for ever they are so gorgeous I know I told him most of u guys go on pet shop and see raw tank with a few fish for sell But u guys don’t know how many species are out there and how much plates are beautiful Everything on saltwater and fresh water are beautiful u just have to know how to deal with it to getter better read about understand first before u buy any fish don’t try without read our u going to learn in the hard way and we fish sellers that love what we do we not going let u buy a fish tha u think it breathe water when it don’t understand it’s the key and the gas it’s read and the engine is the work Love is the path and your eyes is the pleasure Stay fish and keep the nitrate low Your tank is the reflection of you hart How u see things but remember do not over stock or tank if u like big go for extra large if u like small go for large I think 10 gallons tank should be prohibited 🚫 maybe for a single betta fish but still I put my on a 20 minimum Give you fish a happy life because if u think it don’t deserve it u don’t deserve to be in the robin love you videos makes me Poetize my love for what I do thank you for talking about fresh and salt salt it’s hard but beautiful then fresh fresh is gorgeous and easy the salt big msg for big love love I love what I do

I had a Tropical Marine Tank and successfully kept a variety of fish. Tangs, Wrasses, Hawkfish, Damsels, Clownfish, Dwarf and full size Angelfish. I also kept Barber Pole Shrimp. No Protein Skimmer as they were a new item. Eventually I went on to African Cichlids.

It's the plants for me

I’ve had both and saltwater was not fun to me. It became a chore and the payoff to me wasn’t worth it. More expensive didn’t equal better to me. End of the day it really comes down to what you prefer which I know is such a lame statement. I really enjoy watching my plants grow waaaayyy more than I liked watching my coral grow.

Something about reefing makes people gadget obsessed and those gadgets are majorly inflated in price. And the focus is on collecting shiny things (fish and coral). I wish there was more on cool aquascapes with a deliberate/elaborate design like freshwater planted tanks. And fish selected for more reasons than utility/it fits the tank size. No color coordination or anything and it all looks like a big collection of living things.

I have been in the freshwater hobby for 12,5years before i decided to go with a saltwater setup for me the difference s you mentioned here are accurate and i have had my Challanges going into the reefkeeping and i have to say that corals are more forgiveing in the hobby then the fish are for example tangs are ich magnets so if you want to keep then you need a uv that adds extra costs to your tank so you can kinda see it like as keeping wild discus its a challenge and everything has to be maintained correctly otherwise you lose a lot of fish

I say this every time: the most-competent aquarists in the world keep both. They don't argue one is "better" than the other. Too bad for whoever can't accept this.

I already subscribed, I just wanted to say, you, for some reason are very well-spoken and I like your videos more than others, yes the popular others.

I keep both fresh & salt; I went into this video honestly expecting to roll my eyes, but these are very valid points, and I have had each of these thoughts myself

@davidhorizon8401

2 жыл бұрын

I don't agree with the item of keeping saltwater fish in a small area, ok well I do agree with that, but it is true with freshwater fish too.

@opethmike

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidhorizon8401 Please add 'Zero Dawn' to the end of your name.

Freshwater still has a ton of colours, while leaving you more margins with money, time and effort you have to put into, a plus if you have to still worry about job, family etc. . Also, I love planted tanks, so freshwater has this plus, too; and I very like the delicate, softened tone palette of freshwater aquarium organisms: the awe-factor of marine/reef tanks works for some time, then you kinda end up appreciating both, at which point by a pragmatic point of view you can understand all of the advantages of a freshwater aquarium. My tap water is unfortunately quite weird (relatively low °gH, but with very high °kH) and finding matching fish is extremely tricky (even platys struggle in such water...), so I've had to start making osmotic water again, but still if you want to make the best possible synthetic marine water you have to mix the salts in osmotic water, thus the 110€ / ca. 120 $ you'd have to spend for an osmotic system still are a cost you should consider into the budget for both kind of aquarium.

@dinosaurpro6592

Жыл бұрын

Practice with freshwater, then go to salt once you want to see the rainbow.

@TenorCantusFirmus

Жыл бұрын

@@dinosaurpro6592 Sincerely, I have Congo Tetras, which alongside with Melanotaenias are the closest thing there could be to a swimming rainbow... You can have it in freshwater too.

@dinosaurpro6592

Жыл бұрын

@@TenorCantusFirmus what about a mandarin goby? A tailspot wrasse? A emperor angelfish? A flame hawk? Freshwater can be cool, but saltwater fish just can't be ignored. You just have to keep them if you have the money. I'm really tempted.

@TenorCantusFirmus

Жыл бұрын

@@dinosaurpro6592 I don't ignore saltwater fish. It's just that I don't find the little bit of extra color to justify the cost. The captive-bred vs. collected in nature issue is still the most important one - Maybe, if saltwater captive breeding will start becoming more regular and involve a wider variety of fish, there I might start thinking about them.

@dinosaurpro6592

Жыл бұрын

What's wrong with wild caught fish? Are they less hardy? More expensive?

I've been keeping freshwater tanks for years, and this video was one of many that inspired me to try out saltwater...and now that I've had my salt tank up for nearly 8 months, I can surely say that freshwater is way better, at least in terms of costs and payoffs. A good sized freshwater planted tank can cost under $100 to set up, can run for months without any maintenance aside from feeding fish, and can even pay for itself through the plants grown and livestock bred within. My tiny 20 gallon salt tank is by far the most expensive I've ever set up, and needs constant maintenance and water changes. Corals and macroalgae don't grow quickly enough for me to even consider selling them, and there aren't many types of fish or inverts that readily breed in a home aquarium. I'm probably gonna dismantle the tank in a few weeks to relieve the mental and financial burden it causes me, and will likley stick with freshwater from now on

@paulshockley8632

8 ай бұрын

I been doing fresh for over 25 years and saltwater for 10 years with about 15 tanks ranging from 10 to 150 gallons. Since I started a family, 2 dogs, and still working 2 jobs, I only 1 saltwater tank left. But really thinking of converting it to fresh due to the less maintenance. No more caring big jugs of water

When l had tanks l always kept it small, simple, and cheap. Biggest for me was a 20 long with White Clouds, Cardinal Tetras, and Cory Catfish.

I love my freshwater and marine tanks, may as well go all into the hobby and have both ay 😉 I still don't understand why there is so much smart equipment on the reef tanks though, they can basically run themselves now haha. The smartest equipment I have on my 120g reef tank is an ATO and light timers, no need to spend thousands on automation. Look forward to checking out Jake's video on it, cheers John. Aaron

What an excellent video. I'm just starting to learn.

Awesome video bro!!! Thanks for posting it!

Cool video! I'm a fresh water keeper but I'm about to start a 20 gal. reef tank!

@osamadeveloper

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck buddy

@CJ23taylor-animales

2 жыл бұрын

@@osamadeveloper Thanks!

Just moved my first reef tank and everything survived besides one of my lps frags. Temps got down to 70 degrees too. It isn’t a big deal to move a reef tank as long as you have the resources to make it smooth.

I made the jump from fresh to Salt, I Stuck with Salt but your points are absolutely valid! Imagine my shock when learning that my 160 liter Tank is still considered nano.

I went from DC to NC last year. Luckily we only have one 10 gallon. Good luck with your move.

Freshwater 4 life!!!! I love the saltwater fish and the corals but seeing how much goes into a well-established saltwater aquarium is definitely off-putting but I would like to try one day... I love the collaboration between both channels. You both definitely did a great job explaining the differences between freshwater and saltwater.

I like them both. I have had more fresh water tanks but I did like my salt tanks. When I get my new place I'll set up both. The salt at the stores you just go buy those big jugs already filled and you bring back the empty ones for a deposit.

This is something I’ve trying to tell people for a long time now. I’m glad that there’s actual good video on you to talking about it. Those one video of a saltwater biased buy saying that freshwater is just as hard as salt water, one of his biggest points was that you can’t use a protein skimmer and fresh water. As somebody who use a protein skimmer and has two saltwater tanks I want much prefer not to have to use a protein skimmer.

I want saltwater one day when I have time. This is a fun collaboration in that you’ve decided to partner with someone doing the opposite of you within the hobby. Awesome idea! Very clever.

You are so right in that freshwater is much easier than saltwater but in my opinion there is just something about seeing saltwater fish and corals that draws me to them.

I'm really looking forward to the Jake Adams follow up video. Keep us updated. Cheers!

Im a reef keeper and I agree with most of your points . for example my saltwater fish valued about at $1200 . its not a cheap hobby. I have to say most reef keepers are type A personalities . if u only keep saltwater fish u can get away with less cost . on the nano tanks u can keep Catalina gobies without a heater .just a example . I have gotten back into freshwater heavily planted nano tanks I currently have a 1.2 gallon cube housing 5 neon tetras and 4 albino corys . I love the challenge of a small ecosystem. btw we are not snobs .

Awesome video and some great points. I have both ( 2 fresh and 1 marine reef ). I find it's as difficult as you want it to be, my freshwater tank takes alot more time as it's fully planted etc, but the marine is the money pit😂

This hobby is fun, second to my gun keeping. When its too hot to go shoot outdoors, keep it cool indoor with my fishes, when its cool outdoors, go shooting with my buddies and come home to a warm aquarium and a hot meal.

Kind of makes you appreciate how amazing nature is to keep all this in balance in the wild

I love following yall 😍 I am not afraid to start my own..

Hello I just want to ask you about my filter so I bought a top fin aquarium 20 gallon which has everything from air pump to filter to lights etc.. the problem is I'm starting to hear a rattling sound from my filter and I've been looking for the same filter but I can't find it even if I want to buy a new filter the problem is about the hood the old one had the an opening place and you can close it over the filter so you want smell anything so what should I do?

The respect one is true. I started with freshwater tanks. Had a reef going for a few years. Decided to start a planted tank. Literal jungle in 2 months. Reefing gives you a better understanding of the componants of plant growth as well as coral growth.

the background music you guys use always reminds me of when i first started keeping fish

Never tried salt, but have considered it a few times. I did hear more and more salt water fish are being captive bred though? At least Compared to 5/10 years ago 😜

@kathenderson3778

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of saltwater species also aren't as hardy in captivity, like cow fish. I myself don't think I could morally keep a cow fish.

I have kept both fresh and fowlr style marine tanks (fish only with live rock) I prefer fresh water tanks and have just recently started keeping plants alive. I have started looking into having a brackish tank with mudskippers.

Yea, as much as I love both saltwater and freshwater im gonna have to say freshwater is better for beginners. Saltwater is very difficult at times and I think somebody getting into the fish hobby in general should take care of a freshwater tank first to get to know the basics of fish keeping as they are pretty universal. But I do think saltwater is 10x more entertaining as the variety of stuff you can keep is just about endless, though you will need a deep wallet. Overall I think they're both insanely cool hobbies and I don't prefer any one over the other.

I understand where you are coming from. I am one who keeps both. Yes you can get by with much less equip in freshwater but I also have built a lot of my tanks fresh and salt to use a lot of the same equip. Personally I enjoy both sides of the hobby. I currently have 4 freshwater tanks and one reef tank. Some equipment is more expensive but there are some fish in freshwater that are pretty expensive also not as many as in salt. Automation is making a lot of the Maint that needs to be done easier and much less work especially as knowledge in salt has been increasing it has changed so dramatically. I do love both sides of the hobby. Yes there isn’t that many that do a lot specialize in one side or the other but I like the challenge of doing both

Thank you for this video!!! I always wanted to keep Saltwater fish but it's alot work if you have the time.

Awesome man. appreciated

I've had many years on the hobby and Ive had saltwater and freshwater as well as reef tanks. I never really got much enjoyment out of my saltwater tanks it was always alot of stress and felt more like work. I am strictly freshwater now and actually these days mostly native freshwater. I source my own fish locally so no buying fish I LOOOOOOOVE stream tanks. 6 ft long tank with with a powerhead and little strong swimmers. My best tank is a 125 gallon with a bluegill, a green sunfish, 3 longear sunfish, and 3 chub minnows. Native freshwater is so underrated since Ive been keeping them tropical freshwater doesnt even appeal to me anymore. But thats just me.

I would love to see a spotlight video of your choice of fish you used in your thumbnail. The Golden barb❤. I’ve yet to see any with some good detailed care, tank mates etc.

I went all salt in my 13 tanks this Spring. You're all missing out on the better side of the hobby ;)

Want to bring salt and fresh together? Build a reef tank with acclimated mollies!

You’re not kidding about the tightrope analogy of saltwater tanks. My husband’s boss has a large setup. It went south a few years ago. It was like watching dominoes fall. 😬