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The ability of British, French, Dutch, Italian, Belgian, Australian, German, Japanese, American, and other Western nations to operate together is priceless. Like the rest of France's military, the Marine Nationale is a top notch organization. La Royale can learn from the US Navy and vice versa. It is a win-win situation for all Western navies to focus on interoperability.

@jamesmasonaltair1062

Жыл бұрын

@@jeanclaudevillenave4484 Je suis désolé si mon français est rouillé. Ce que tu as dit me fait plaisir. J'espère que la plupart des Français se sentent comme vous. La plupart des Américains aiment la France. Certains pays pour lesquels l'Amérique se battra toujours. La France fait partie des têtes de liste. Vive la France !

@eligebrown8998

Жыл бұрын

We may give France a hard time sometimes but you all have cool planes and the United States still has your back when the crap hits the fan.

@gringologie9302

Жыл бұрын

@@eligebrown8998 as De Gaulle said, we always loved USA, but they were not there in 1914 or in 1940. So don't be mad against us if we take independant decisions in times to come

@eligebrown8998

Жыл бұрын

@@gringologie9302 I never mentioned anything like that

@olivd3406

Жыл бұрын

Only usa F18 and french rafale can be launched and land on each orters carriers 🤟(sorry for my english i am french 😉) WE are allies since Lafayette, 1775, indépendance War 🇨🇵🇺🇸👍

You can tell it's a rafale just by hearing it whistling. Love that sound.

@tri3852

Жыл бұрын

Indeed, I was doing an internship at French naval air station Lann Bihoue in Britanny. Rafales came to do simulated carrier approaches on the runway for a few weeks. Everyday, they would come over from their homebases, Landivisiau, do an hour of training and return to their homebases. Altough one day, I was in a building on the base working when I heard that very familiar whistling and thought to myself "They've landed?!". I walked outside and saw like a whole bunch of them passing by one by one on the taxiway and all parked nearby. Got to see them uplclose, was one hell of a surprise.

The Rafale is absolutely beautiful....wow...just wow.

@paulcarfantan6688

10 күн бұрын

Absolument (that`s French for absolutely). Can`t wait to see the first prototype for the future Franco-German and I believe Swedish or Dutch combat aircraft. Mind you; will there be a navalised version ? Well, probably not, but maybe.

IM BRITISH , WOULDN'T EXPECT ANYTHING LESS THAN PERFECT FROM THE FRENCH PILOTS, ! .

@annecy49

4 ай бұрын

Thank you, Sir!

@maxmoore9955

4 ай бұрын

@@annecy49 I am not a Sir .

@andytraill

3 ай бұрын

You do shit then?😂@@maxmoore9955

The French do know how to design and build a beautiful fighter jet!

@indragominardi4047

Жыл бұрын

Thx dude Americans too !

@michelverleyen7155

Жыл бұрын

There's a lot of people on the deck to watch this awful french aircraft 🤣

@Motormouth2112

Жыл бұрын

There Corporate Aircraft are just as impressive and beautiful. Maintained a Falcon 50, and a 900 truly beauty's, but needs TLC..

@henryairconcepts2999

Жыл бұрын

I prefer Swedish Saab

@vitek924

Жыл бұрын

And trains and helicopters too!

it's especially the technology that we don't see that is impressive, and especially the records that it still holds since its release!! it is still the only aircraft in the world to reach 11G positive in combat! the Rafale C, for an aircraft weighing less than 10 tonnes (9850 kg) it carries almost 100% of its empty weight in armament (9500 kg), it carries almost 150% of its empty weight in armament and fuel (14650 kg), it makes slow passages at 80 knots or 152 km/h, it can land in a smooth configuration at 100 knots (180 km/h) and it lands on an aircraft carrier at 120 knots! its SPECTRA computer system behaves like a sponge, it receives all the information, makes a summary which it transmits to the pilot, this allows the pilot not to receive too much information and he can concentrate only on piloting and control. success of the mission, and it has two types of stealth, a passive one, certainly much lower than that of an F22 or F35 but it exists, SER of 0.06 m2, and an active stealth, it receives the enemy radar wave on antennas in its wings, SPECTRA analyzes it and sends back the phase-shifted radar wave, this allows the Rafale to erase its radar signature! so far, he has used it very little! for the moment in 2023, it remains undefeated in confrontations with other planes, it is especially the Eurofighter which took dearly, in 2009, 18 fights, 16 to 2 for the Rafale!! the very great qualities of the Rafale are: the solidity of these wings, the reliability of the M88, its SPECTRA system and its incredible maneuverability!! when France and the USA work together, we do wonders, example: the creation of CFM international, between SAFRAN (France) and General Electric (USA) we built the most incredible engine of all time, the CFM 56, the the best-selling airliner engine in the world and the one with the reputation of being the most reliable!! and now we are doing LEAP, another success!!

Without any doubt the most beautiful fighter jet. Just georgeous.

@_Jake.From.Statefarm_

5 ай бұрын

I wouldn't go that far but It's a damn good looking aircraft though.. The 14 and 22 are the most badass looking jets IMO.

Le Rafale c'est vraiment un très bel avion de chasse

Thats a beautiful aircraft.

For the non military here, I can’t emphasize enough the complexity of these operations and the invaluable training for both the carrier crews and ESPECIALLY for the French pilots.

@geraldfranklin8685

Жыл бұрын

Great comment rotorhead V8 great comment keep up the good work

@zeitgeistx5239

Жыл бұрын

Few people know that USN trains French Navy pilots for carrier ops, CDG sails with US sailors to maintain the steam catapults, and that Rafale had to visit Patuxtent River for ground based catapult during its development and then subsequent weapons integration testing.

@balkar1681

Жыл бұрын

It's not so hard for the French pilots, the US and French procedures are identical, the French naval pilots are all trained in the USA and the French aircraft carrier is much smaller. In fact for French pilots it's very easy, on the other hand, to land on the Charles de Gaulle for a Navy pilot with an F/A18 there it's a feat the bridge is much shorter and there are only 2 strand.

@kylrean3891

Жыл бұрын

@@geraldfranklin8685 It's not that complex. Not anymore than usual anyway. The French systems are identical (on purpose) to our own. They modelled theirs from ours, so there is almost no difference in mechanical or procedure. They even use the same jersey coloring system we do.

@whomagoose6897

Жыл бұрын

Not only the interoperability of NATO members. A lot of ordnance is comparable. Every NATO member Infantry rifle is chambered in 5.56-NATO. All the magazines are the same. Most of the artillery shells can be shared. All aircraft in NATO uses the same air-to-air refueling couplers. That means an American KC-135 refueling plane can gas up every NATO aircraft that needs a drink. There are 2-axle cargo trucks used in NATO. No matter who made the truck, no matter which country, the engines have the exact same measurements. So if I was driving an American cargo truck with a Caterpillar engine. And the piston and valve covers blew up. A German Buffalo recovery vehicle can tow me to a German repair station. Remove the Caterpillar engine and directly replace the broken engine with a German MAN diesel engine. Even the electrical harness wiring is the same. Bad engine out, new engine in PDQ. Same with tires. Got a flat tire? Every NATO member repair facility can swap out tires. Not everything is compatible. But, a lot of things are.

I'll bet the French pilot loved landing on such a huge platform. Go Navy! 👍

@davehalliday9399

Жыл бұрын

3 acres of floating Freedom baby!!!

@jmariliou

Жыл бұрын

Charles De Gaulle is quite 50 mètres shorter

@Fox-One1937

Жыл бұрын

And enjoy à rea American l McDonald's cheese burger

@anubis5397

Жыл бұрын

I bet they do ! But they do know how to do it, France doesn't have proper training naval aircraft so they train carrier landing... on US carrier with american training jet 😁

@sttmw

Жыл бұрын

@@anubis5397 i hate americans thinking that theyre the best bc they have the best budget, Mr. Oil

The Rafale is a gorgeous plane, a purpose built fighter.

@Greippi10

Жыл бұрын

If only the refueling probe wasn't sticking out like a sore thumb!

@michaeldoyle2725

Жыл бұрын

Is it better then a tomcat ???

@brunol-p_g8800

Жыл бұрын

@@Greippi10 two advantages of the refuelling probe sticking out: it frees space inside and unlike deploying probes you’re sure to get a refill, no probe stuck inside for mechanical problems (a big reason why they went for outside refuelling probes since the mirage). On top of that, the probe has been designed in such a way that it doesn’t impact stealth and aerodynamics.

@bultelpascal3819

5 ай бұрын

In the late 1990s there was a joint training with tomcats, as the tomcat​ leader sais : we have been butchered. It probably was medium/short distance fight where rafale is AT its best. This pushed to replace tomcats with superhornets. This is little known. But tomcat remains logically beloved by everybofy. Fully justified@@michaeldoyle2725

@hunterh1175

5 ай бұрын

@@Greippi10 once you get used to it, it kinda adds to the charm lol

Watching a Rafael is like watching a saviour ..with love ❤️ from India 🇮🇳

@balkar1681

Жыл бұрын

It's not Rafael but Rafale like a "gust" of wind. the English translation would be "gust" not Rafael. I say that because the Indians operate this plane it's better if you understand its name. झोंका

God bless our troop, Go Navy. Vive la 🇫🇷

@gillesmatheronpro

Жыл бұрын

"Viva" is Spanish and Italian. In French, the word spells "vive", with the last letter being muted (as for most words in French language).

@mdc734

Жыл бұрын

🙄🤔

@Fox-One1937

Жыл бұрын

Viva zapata

@sttmw

Жыл бұрын

@@mdc734 ķ

@Motormouth2112

Жыл бұрын

@@gillesmatheronpro wewe...

When the missiles start flying, glad these birds are gunna be on our side.

I was stationed aboard USS Hancock CVA-19 1968-70. This carrier is huge compared to the older carrier. Go NAVY!!

Beautiful jet, and a very smooth landing🤘 hats off🥂

D assault Rafale, awesome jet. Cool catapult videos !

Merci pour ces images! Un respect mutuel est important entre marine

After landing, the French pilot opened the canopy and asked the closest deck crew, "Excuse me, what island is this?"

@thefishboneexperience7697

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@brunol-p_g8800

Жыл бұрын

You’d better get a clown diploma, that wasn’t even a bit funny

@louv4437

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@hunterh1175

5 ай бұрын

cry about it@@brunol-p_g8800

@willita66of34

5 ай бұрын

😂😂i dont think so😂😂

Yeah, Dassault sure know their stuff when making jets.

Happy to see french plane on a famous Us carrier. Happy to see both navy work together. NATO for ever ! Strong together !

A fact many people won’t know is that French naval aviators destined for the Rafale, all undergo basic flight training in France, but report to the US Navy for advanced (carrier) training. France has no advanced trainer aircraft and only one aircraft carrier, which can’t always be operational. The French aviators train in US trainer jets to operate on carriers, and then transition to the Rafale jet. The US and France are the only two countries that use catapults on carriers. Because of this, the catapult designs are the same, the launch and recovery procedures are the same, and the aircraft use the same landing and take-off hardware. US Navy jets also train landing and taking off with the French Charles de Gaulle carrier.

@StrikeFighterExperience

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for that in-sight! Good stuff

@ddg2114

5 ай бұрын

Bullshit

@alainbrochet5610

5 ай бұрын

Anything! We don’t have training planes? Who? does not know that the rafale is the best fighter in the world without forgetting the class of mirages. We have a nuclear carrier and three other aeronef carriers. Little yankee shit

@afcgeo882

5 ай бұрын

@@Scidzcopter What drugs are you on? The US Navy’s been working on the CDG since it was launched. Prior to that, they worked on other carriers too. There are many videos on KZread of this.

@afcgeo882

5 ай бұрын

@@Scidzcopter No one said anyone can just unilaterally land on it. Even French planes would need permission. What are you, a child?

Everything on deck stops while the crew stand around staring at the pretty foreigner- exactly as it should be! So lucky they were on shift for it!

Thank you from France 🇨🇵 ❤ 🇺🇲

RAFALE beautiful aircraft . Europe has 3 very excellent aircarft ..............RAFALE , TYPHOON and SAAB GRIPEN . A very nice TRIO . Well done EUROPE . The FRENCH pilots know their stuff . RAFALE a very fine MULTIROLE BIRD .

Merci !!! From ST Malo France.

Leave it to the French to design something sexy as that Rafale

@paulcarfantan6688

10 күн бұрын

Imagine it wearing a big bikini....oh wait a second...no never mind, that image is way too disturbing. My bad, lol, bad idea. 😄😄

I do love those French jets.

French engineers are the absolute boys.

What a cool jet! Love the style and looks of so many European rifles, jets, tanks, etc

Just say beautifull rafale !!! Wow 👍 ❤️

I gave this video a thumbs up even though the second takeoff was cut short. That was a good spot he was standing at with no one in his line of view.

@StrikeFighterExperience

Жыл бұрын

Here a good vid for next Cat Shot kzread.info/dash/bejne/k6F1q6yPn8qboNI.html

@nateasonjames

Жыл бұрын

The second shot was canceled. The nose wheel was damaged and they had to spin around and wait for a part to fix it. They flew it over on a helicopter and we launched it later that night.

@cliffords.8341

Жыл бұрын

@@nateasonjames Okay thanks for the info. Thank you for your service and Sacrifices Sir. Are you still serving?

the best !!! VIVE LA FRANCE !!!

Hell yes love this jet

Magnifique ❤

Il est magnifique le Rafale ! 🤩😘

Merci pour le partage de cette vidéo 👍🏼

Rafale looks wicked sitting on the catapult

@lukeamato2348

Жыл бұрын

It looks fast just sitting there

@hunterh1175

5 ай бұрын

@@lukeamato2348 I think the canards add to the "fast" look

What a gorgeous aircraft

Oh tks America to allow us on board ❤

@tucheolaw137

Жыл бұрын

🇫🇷❤🇺🇸

@Motormouth2112

Жыл бұрын

Thank you France for allowing us to keep our heroes buried with honor on French soil. Most importantly thanks for Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de Lafayette

@johndoe-cd9vt

Жыл бұрын

@@Motormouth2112 "for allowing us to keep our heroes buried with honor on French soil" well these guy are also at home in France ... I'm french and each time I think about what this entire generation of young american did for us, it breaks my heart... So I can't even answer "you are welcome" it's not a service, we owe you this, it's a minimum for your sacrifice!

@Motormouth2112

Жыл бұрын

@@johndoe-cd9vt Beautifully spoken, God bless you young man. But alot is owed as well to France for our Independence, more than the average American knows. Be well..

@Pakal77

Жыл бұрын

@@Motormouth2112 Thanks for these kind words about our two countries. John Doe is also entirely right ! 👍

This happened also in 07-08! What cool experience. I miss the line shack days lol.

@geraldfranklin8685

Жыл бұрын

Hey shipmate Jeremy I know what you mean about you miss the old line Shack days LOL I used to dip in there to get out of the cold between lunches and to grab an apple out of my pocket and chew it like it was the end of the world

@jeremy7383

Жыл бұрын

@@geraldfranklin8685 lol! I feel ya. Worked to death hated and loved every minute of it. Nothing like watching the sun come up or go down before flight ops!

@geraldfranklin8685

Жыл бұрын

@@jeremy7383 you got that right s h i p mate LOL great line great line you know I wouldn't trade those experiences for nothing and I hope nobody went hungry down on the m e s s d e c k from me stuffing oranges and apples and wrapping a half of sandwich or something else under my float coat man's got to eat LOL

@sttmw

Жыл бұрын

@@geraldfranklin8685 *eats*

Sound of M88 snecma roaring is so good

Le plus belle avion de chasse au Monde .

Rafales are so badass.

Hi Metz!! JJ VF-142 Ae 3 75-79 Shellback USS America 2 Meds USS IKE 1 Med. Cheers & Blue Sky and Smooth Seas.

Life on the USS Harry S. Truman must be very interesting!

Definitely a sucker for a beautiful delta wing aircraft, let it be a Rafale, Gripen, Typhoon or the king of aircraft beauty the Vulcan.

Hey! Spotted my old squadron VFA-81 !!

Techniquement, le Rafale est au top et le design est magnifique!!

Even no time for a coffee and donut ?!? 😉

@joso5554

Жыл бұрын

Agree! That was a very fast « visit »!!!

@sttmw

Жыл бұрын

We had to leave to say hi to Afganisthan

@sttmw

Жыл бұрын

Besides, we dont mess around after landing.

But where is Buck Danny ? 🤣 Thank's for these videos. A french fan

Good job !!! 😀👍 .

It's so easy for French Navy pilots to land on the runways of giant US aircraft carriers. ^^ It is more difficult for US Navy pilots to land on the smaller French aircraft carriers. ^^

@chrisdel2564

Жыл бұрын

French pilots are so professionnel they can Land on a tennis court

@_Jake.From.Statefarm_

5 ай бұрын

The landings are the same lol. The boat is just longer.. they learn on US carriers... before even getting in to the Rafale.. The extra 50m doesn't equate to a harder job landing the aircraft.

@clio2rsminicup

5 ай бұрын

@@_Jake.From.Statefarm_ Continue to play to your virtual videogames ... LOL

@_Jake.From.Statefarm_

5 ай бұрын

@@clio2rsminicup Wtf does the fact that I fly in a flight sim have to do with anything?... Continue to play with your car LOL...

OMFG ! Such a huge carrier... 😮😮 Incroyable 😍

love the hooters patch

Beautiful landing

Just rafale ☝️😉

Very cool.

What an amazing job

God Bless The USA. Thanks for your service. God bless.

@geraldfranklin8685

Жыл бұрын

And let us keep praying for our Navy Force that's in service at the moment and I'm not saying that because I'm retired Navy it's just something that needs to be happening. Go US Navy the first line of defense

Looked like “a little flair in close” paddles on that 1st trap

Does enyone enlight me how Rafale equipment cooperated with ILS from american carrier, or french pilot only used the "ball" light system in this landing?

Yo that's cool

Interesting to see that the French pilots don't wipe out the controls before saluting. Wondering if everything is already trimmed out because of the flight control system?

Having a clear day I See

The French driver must been thinking this is a dam big Deck

@pascalf764

Жыл бұрын

no he thinks "There are people today the deck is crowded I wonder why ?"🤣

@fastone942

Жыл бұрын

One reason I said that is their own ship the Charles DeGaulle is a lot smaller deck in fact to operate the Hawkeyes length and the deck so they could land

@pascalf764

Жыл бұрын

@@fastone942 it was a joke don't worried The Charles de Gaulle is smaller than the American aircraft carriers but the Rafale is a small jet and it matches very well with our aircraft carrier In France we do not have the budget of the US Navy big planes and boats are too expencive

@chillout1109

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure he is used to it. The French have been landing Rafales on US carriers since the early 2000's

@sttmw

Жыл бұрын

@@pascalf764 surtout le bugdet, le gouvernement réduit le bugdet de la défense quand il fait AUGMENTER le bugdet

SWEET

What is the difference between green red and yelow staff ?

Hey now, that's me Shooting!

Hell of a Lot more room on that Deck ,then we had on the Midway .Less chance of a young Airman getting blown into the Cat walk ,on his first cruise like I did,.

@hunterh1175

5 ай бұрын

you can't just drop this crazy anecdote and not elaborate, we want details

It’s so cool seeing allied militaries training and operating together. This I’m sure will be invaluable in the near future as foes like Russia try their hand

Better than those hornets 😅

@StrikeFighterExperience

Жыл бұрын

Pshhhhhhh 😒

0:18 i needa know where i can get a hooters patch

What number wire did he catch?

can4't wait to see the rafale F5

landing on an American aircraft carrier should not be too hard for French pilots, the deck of their aircraft carrier the Charle de Gaulle is shorter, on the other hand, it must be traumatic for an American pilot to land on the Charle de Gaulle ^^....the Rafale is so cool !

France uses 200 naval aeronautics aircraft divided into 15 flotillas and 3 squadrons, or 4000 sailors, anchored in 4 aeronautical bases. France has 4 nuclear ballistic missile submarines, 6 nuclear attack submarines

what's the 32 & 00 on the screen shown and agreed with the pilot mean?

@Tahoe_Z71

Жыл бұрын

Weight of aircraft. See the glass bubble sticking up out of the deck... the guy down in the bubble adjusts steam pressure of the cat based on weight of the aircraft. The nose gear would potentially be ripped out of the airframe if pressure were not adjusted. CVN-71, 2/87- 12/90

@neilgrant873

Жыл бұрын

@@Tahoe_Z71 Thanx for that👌

He just stopped and asked if we had any Grey Poupon

@manolosantos1983

Жыл бұрын

Grey Poupon doesnt even exists in France btw

French also have aircraft carriers

@drikuslourens1854

Жыл бұрын

correction France has A aircraft carrier , (with one under construction)

Problem with the holdback bar on that second launch?

@StrikeFighterExperience

Жыл бұрын

That’s a good guess. They used a unique hold back for the Rafale. Also different catapult shuttle

@nateasonjames

Жыл бұрын

No. It was the nose gear assembly. We had to spin it around and wait on a part to be delivered before launching it that night.

Do the US and French Navy’s use the same deck hand signals?

@UNMENDered

Жыл бұрын

Years ago, there's slightly differences, like the "Go" signal was different. On US Aircraft carrier, the Yellow guys (alco called "shooter") are crouching while doing the Go Signal. On Charles-de-Gaulle french aircraft carrier, the Yellow guys are standing up while doing the Go Signal. You should check some Charles-de-Gaulle french aircraft carrier videos. Nowadays, I read that the French Navy personnels are starting/using the same signals as US Navy because of interoperability between both Navys. Also, I read too that British Navy personnels are using US signals because they are using US and UK F-35B on their own aircrafts carriers.

@balkar1681

Жыл бұрын

All French naval aviation pilots are trained in the USA and also have US wings.

@markhepworth

Жыл бұрын

@@UNMENDered The Royal Navy and US Navy have been swapping carrier pilots for 50 years..

@UNMENDered

Жыл бұрын

I know that but before HMS Queen Elizabeth and Prince of Wales, have you seen both US Marines and UK Navy airplanes operating on the same ship ?????

@sttmw

Жыл бұрын

Non, there's no diffence (least according to the US NAVY, i think we have the same hand signals, besides, the US NAVY is the only army who can land on our carrier without causing a diplomatic incident.

On l aime notre rafale!😊

Almost looks as though the Rafale has a slower landing speed than the Hornet. Is that true or just the distortion of the camera speed?

@sttmw

Жыл бұрын

The Rafale as a stall speed of 120 knots (210 km/h) And the F-18 is 125 knots or 246 km/h

@straatanga

Жыл бұрын

@@sttmw mmmhhh, strange conversion...

@sttmw

Жыл бұрын

@@straatanga Are you american ?

RAFALE

Special freedom fries delivery

Merci à l’US navy de nous aider pour la formation de nos pilotes de l’aéronavale. Un grand honneur de voir les Rafale Français sûr le pont d’envol d’un porte aéronefs Américain.

Butter

Aye I was on that deployment!

Meilleur avion de guerre au monde, le Rafale F6 🇨🇵🇨🇵

The Dassault Rafale M is a version of the Rafale modifided For carrier operations on Charles De Gaules (CDG)

@balkar1681

Жыл бұрын

sorry Sttm : Charles de Gaulle

@sttmw

Жыл бұрын

@@balkar1681 oui mais C plus facile de mettre Charles De Gaules (CDG) que Charles de Gaules (CDG) Edit : Et puis on a (nous les français) on a + l'habitude de dire CDG que CG.

@balkar1681

Жыл бұрын

Ce n'est pas CDG qui me gène mais le "Gaules" qui me pique les yeux, mon coté psychorigide certainement mais c'est "Gaulle". Charles de Gaulle

@sttmw

Жыл бұрын

@@balkar1681 T sur que c'est de Gaulles ?

@sttmw

Жыл бұрын

@@balkar1681 apres verification, voici ce que Wikipedia à a dire : Charles de Gaulle

C'est quoi l'événement pour être aussi extasié ? La première fois que les américains accueillaient un rafale sur leurs porte-avions ?

is it acceptable to carrier land with a tank on the belly?

@StrikeFighterExperience

Жыл бұрын

Yes, they usually dump the fuel from the tank before landing though

How does it get off the deck

@StrikeFighterExperience

Жыл бұрын

Catapult shoots it off. They fixed the jet and it left soon after

Faut S'UNIR et travailler ensemble pour FAIRE RECULER le FAUVE de RUSSIE

アメリカ空母の性能良すぎだな… 癖のあるデルタ翼機を射出・着艦させるとか

that ai thumbnail tho 💀it's a Raf ff alllle

Great looking jet. Something about that really short nose and of course the the fuel probe that doesn't retract kind of turns me off. It probably out dogfights the f18 but not is good looking as the f18.