Well what a way to end 2022 with a great flight followed by disaster!

100% tip stall. You was lucky it didn't happen the first two times.

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

I also discovered a short in the rudder servo lead where I screwed through it. it was the type of mistake that took some time and normal vibration to set the time bomb off.

It looks very much like a tip stall due to a quick rotation not using the full length of the runway. I always go the full length of the runway on all my models as it doesn’t cost anything

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Yeah this one of those hind sight is 20/20. if only I could roll back the clock and not treat her like a prop plane. I got careless. I also discovered a short in the rudder servo lead where I screwed through it. it was the type of mistake that took some time and normal vibration to set the time bomb off.

@BriNaCa

Жыл бұрын

If you watch in slow motion you can see hard right rudder. I am pretty sure that was caused by the short.

@notbadgerbutrich

Жыл бұрын

⁠@@BriNaCa regardless of whatever rudder input it was horsed off the runway too quickly, you can’t do that with jets. I’m aways amazed how pilot error never comes in to RC model crashes

I feel your pain. I'm the guy that crashed 3 70mm F16's on their maidens never flew before thinking, I got this. They did not live 30 seconds each. Now I hand toss a 64mm F22 and she's been a beauty. I'm happy with a less powerful RC.

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

We all have to live and learn. But if we don't learn then it truly was a loss.

So sorry my friend. Just part of our hobby. Happy New Year. ✌

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Part of rc flying. Just a reality you must learn from.

I have this exact plane. I learned REAL quick that you cannot pull hard with very little air speed or else it will stall. The elevator acts like an "air break" when fully deflected at low speeds.. almost cost me the plane during maiden. MUST be gentle on elevator when taking off or making steep turns.

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I should have dialed down the throws on the elevator.

Nooooooooooo!.. So sorry. Thats a bummer. You'll fix her and have her going in no time... New fuse is only $70... Sorry brother... Will

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

After the post mortem I found a whole lot more than a new fuse. Nose gear, some servos wings , new drop tanks pylons needed a decal set....etc...etc....

5:04 oooh nooo😱😢😭😭

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Yeah next jet gets the whole runway to take off!

So sorry to see this happen to you.Looking forward to the L-39.Thanks for sharing with us.

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

No worries. Thanks for stopping bye. The L 39 will be here Monday.

I was surprised the impact caused so much damage, it didn't go in that hard. It can be a tuff gig this hobby. I know you will get back on your horse. Thanks so much for your presentations during the year, I have really enjoyed your presentations, so many are sponsored so we never get an unbiased appraisal, this makes your offering so valuable. God bless, happy new year.

@old-rcplane-phart

Жыл бұрын

Crashing is part of flying. It WILL always happen. Everytime it goes up, there's a 50% chance it will land.

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Thanks I really appreciate that. Crashing is just part of it!

The deformation in the foam can be relieved by placing the compressed sections in very hot water. Then glue it back together and repaint that repaired section. I rode EA-6B's in the Navy and they often had panels and areas with obvious paint repairs.

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

I will fly a a6 again .

Oh no!

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

It happens. Thanks for watching.

@dogfoodking

Жыл бұрын

@@FatGuyFliesRC thanks for sharing your hobby! Happy New year! All the best.

Fat Guy.... Unfortunately we've all been there,,,I lost a FMS thunderbolt to a bad board last year. The cost of fixing it was almost as much as a brand new plane. I love the idea of recycling the good parts into another ARF though. ;)

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Yeah my new L39 camo will be here Monday.!!

Sorry for your loss , better luck next time .

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

I learned from this mistake so not a total loss.

It's part of the hobby 😕 I wish you all a happy new year

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

BUMMERS!

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

The EDF unit and ESC live on in a FW L39

Jeff, will that’s terrible! Do you look up and see how much it’s going to cost to replace all them parts? Don’t forget to get the new extension cord for that Rudder that was shorted! Well on a sad note in 2022 but hope you have a Happy New Year in 2023! 🎉😊

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Well I to get her back to full new condition it will require right at $300 well a new one is $359 so I will back off for a while and use the power system in a L39 ARF plus.

Man that's rough. I feel ya about the amount of coins you had shell out for her. UGH!

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Well I accept that I am burning the money the moment spend it. Its like trying to gamble responsibility (if that's possible) you going into it know your going to loose money.

Aww FG such a shame it’s a lovely plane but I’m sure you can fix it back up and yeah I found with a couple of mine that I’ve crashed they flew better after lol

@FatGuyFliesRC

10 ай бұрын

Well I like them pristine for as long as possible, Bit the bullet and the replacement finally arrived today. But i have a bunch of spare parts now also.

That's too bad man. Jets are pretty nutty in general. They're a heart attack fest that's for sure.

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

True but when you get that perfect fly by or that grand sweeping dive that looks like an attack strafing run, well that makes the risk worth it!

@larsulrich3356

Жыл бұрын

@@FatGuyFliesRC yep, cuban 8 into a strafing attack dive. I just got a backup replacement for my freewing su-35. They're discontinued. I found out people started making STL parts for her 3d parts. I need to try to replicate her somehow. I want to get into plane building instead of flying. I don't trust the rate of inflation, overall cost of RC planes are too expensive and I want to compress the cost via 3d printing and scanning. The power to make your own planes is pretty important since you don't want to lose an discontinued favorites.

that's to bad gregg, much respect for the honesty, its a shame these suppliers don't help you like they do the sailors and phillips, as many videos as you do with your own money, take it with a grain of salt my friend

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Well I learned from this so it was a good experience after all. lesson here: use the whole dang runway to take off.

Sorry Greg she was a good looking plane! I've already read that your going to put the power plant into your new plane at least not a total disaster. I'm wishing you and your family a very happy new year 🎉 and I will see you in 2023 your friend Marty from Canada 🇨🇦 🛩 🛩

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! and happy new year to you and yours!

Sorry about your plane my friend. I know how it feels. Flew my commander for 3 months with 1 pretty bad crash, then 2 weeks ago my last flight until probably April here in Pennsylvania I destroyed it. Pilot error practicing low inverted passes. Panicked, pulled up too hard to a stall then big time lawn dart. I'm so bummed the way my season ended too 🤨. Happy New Year and hoping for a better 2023. Better flying season too

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Yes it is a money loss but I gained something far more valuable!!! I learned a good lesson. YOU CANT FLY edfs the same way you fly prop jobs. USE the whole dang runway, save the short take offs for the highwing stol planes.

Very sorry to see that ... - anyway, you made an effective troubleshooting. God bless and happy new year.

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, you too!

Sorrry for your loss. I haven’t seen anyone bring this up but you should check your lipo charge after every flight. You wouldn’t want to go up and have your battery die on you.

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Great tip.

Oh no..

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Part of rc flying.

I liked the vid but don’t “like” the video , crash’s suck ! For any reason, but glad you figure out why , so the wiring could be stuck somewhere else ?

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Yes I could have rerouted it a little or taped it down. Not sure why I did not. Hitting a thumbs up has nothing to do with the content of the video it is wither you support the maker or not. I wish you tube made that more clear to people. anyways I appreciate you taking the time to watch regardless of what symbol you hit.

Gosh I can't stand it lol. 😫 The crashing part of the hobby hurts my heart, I have a Viper 70, and a FMS Yak 130 v2 I still hadn't flown for this very reason lol. Crashed into a tree with my beautiful Blitzwerks T28 after hours of prep on its maiden and so. I could be pro a body repair guy at this point, done more repairs then flying these days. Hope you get the chance to put it back together down the road, she was a beauty! Happy New Year!

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Part of rc flying. Thanks and it is important that you reuse these parts and learn from a crash. One of the reasons I show the mistakes on my channel. That way we all learn from them and It may save another pilot from the same mistakes.

Sorry about that Greg, I been there and know it hurts, especially with the more expensive planes. When someone at my field crashes I feel almost as bad as me planted one

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Part of rc flying. If some says they never crash then 2 things are happening. Either they are lying or never flying!

Sorry about your plane, but I am sure I have more crashes than you. You have a good attitude about it, and, I have watched enough of your videos to realize you are a good pilot. I am now 80, have flown about 15 years, but I don’t own EDFs. There is a younger guy here who often gets me to buddy box his EDF, but I don’t land them, and usually don’t do takeoffs. Suits me fine, I will stick to my 3D planes, eflite 300 extra and Flex Innovations. Easy to takeoff and land, but, of course, you can get into trouble with them, and I have. Carry on, you obviously enjoy what you do.

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, yes i love it. I have the Ultimate 3d from Eflite but I am not much of a 3d pilot.

Tuff luck dude! Never take off soon i saw that coming. Tip stalled due tomlack of power. Especially on edf if you have run way use it don’t loose it

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I got cocky!

damn thats a shame...such a nice bird...

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

When I can afford it I will get another one.

Do your research lots of freewing planes have servos fail on new jet's and several other problems.. I had to get 3 new f22 fuselages sent because they kept coming damaged.. i would definitely go over that video footage and contact freewing to me it looked like defective equipment..

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

At the end of this video I did a post mortem and discovered a wire I had put a screw through that was a time bomb that went off in the third attempt of flight. It was the rudder servo lead that caused a sudden left rudder movement that caught me off guard and I over compensated with right aileron and caused a unrecoverable stall at low altitude.

Sorry bud. U will have it back in the air in no time. It will probably fly alot better than ot did

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Well not for a while...

Greg, I have spent a lot of time watching your take-off (with the crash) in Slow Motion and zoomed in using video editing tools - I could not see any issues with the moving surfaces - for what its worth (and it is no consolation - I know how you feel, I lost my XFLY A10 in about 2 mins after take-off on her maiden - complete right off - turned out I forgot to secure the battery and it moved forward into the nose) - the more I look it seems as if it was a tip stall - induced by lifting off too soon (no flaps) - I think all your damage was caused by the actual impact with the ground - However as you say you had indeed trap the Rudder wire and pinched it, IMHO - a Rudder fault would not cause the movements I saw on the video - I am sure other people have other views, I do feel for you and its one of the issue with the price one has to pay for the EDF Jets these days - $$$$$ - Sorry...

@andystoybox1723

Жыл бұрын

I agree 👍🏻 not enough airspeed on take off .. pulled up on elevator to soon and to hard … on the maiden I noticed pulled up to soon .. this time it got him 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Well it is only a true loss if I don't learn from it. After much reflection , it is true there was a bad wire time bomb but I also have rewatched the video multiple times and yes It was completely my fault. I cant keep switching from props to jets without also adjusting to their separate disciplines.

Awesome jet sound! Is the 9blade or 12blade fan?

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

12 blade, and thanks!

EASY repair! Some epoxy, 1.5 to 2mm cf rod, & an hour & be back in the air tomorrow! CA hinge the ailerons n fly!

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

I am walking away from the wreckage for a while . I will in the mean time use the power system in a ARF.

If my calculations are correct you flew the plane at a cost/rate of $68.30 per minute. 😊 Good troubleshooting job and a heads up for another thing to watch for when we do our builds.

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I believe we can all learn from mistakes. That why I show the good AND the bad.

@BillKisel

Жыл бұрын

@@FatGuyFliesRC Amen to that!

I commented in your Eflite A-10 video that you were flying it very gently. Well, it looks like flying gently and turning and too much pitch in take-off with this jet is not a good idea!

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I just got cocky and did not have anywhere near enough runway.

So sorry to see this… but, at least pilots ejected safely. Ejection seats work. 😢

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

They never even broke a smile...lol

I will pass on the crashing ! And just stick to flying 😆😆 if your crashing then something is wrong with the pilot 👨🏻‍✈️ or the mechanic 😂Lol 😂 sorry about that buddy 😢😢😢

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Well here is was the pilot and a secondary build mistake that was bound to come into play at sometime.

Get the speed up before take off ?

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Yep, next time.

Man, that sucks sorry that happened, but you need to give Jets alot more time to build up more speed Haha you're taking off way to early and steep.

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Yeah my fault.

@lucaspoole8866

Жыл бұрын

@@FatGuyFliesRC it happens haha happens to the best of us. But, I know what it's like to crash and burn to haha don't matter how long we've been flying or how good we are it happens!

Can't win em all bruh!!

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

No But we keep going!!

hapend the same to me bust turning over and crasht i thing freewing planes are not the best

@FatGuyFliesRC

5 ай бұрын

Well this one was pilot error.

Why do you yank it off the ground. You need to build speed up

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Because I got stupid and was trying to fly her like a prop plane.

Oh I see what happen. It hit the ground. You can’t do that.

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Yeah kinda hurts the plane...............LOL

runway has speed bumps

@buckreynolds1779

Жыл бұрын

We've all had that walk

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

There is no flying without some crashes!

100 Tip stall. Didn’t build enough speed before takeoff

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

I also discovered a short in the rudder servo lead where I screwed through it. it was the type of mistake that took some time and normal vibration to set the time bomb off.

Your takeoffs looked awfully slow to me as well as being too steep after rotation. I can’t see the control surfaces well enough on my cell phone to tell what they were doing. I always use takeoff flaps on my EDF’s and don’t horse them off the ground. I recommend more speed and less throw. I hope you get it going again without much expense.

@FatGuyFliesRC

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I was getting complacent