Free fix for Deere mower deck - bolts broke off in spindle housing

Trick to reusing a spindle housing after the bolts have snapped off in the aluminum housing. This fix will show you to drill new bolt holes. You can also drill out the holes a little larger than factory and use bolts with nuts on the bottom side of spindle rather than using the self tappers that break off. This is a free fix that will help you reuse a good part rather than buy new.

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  • @southernmaid
    @southernmaid4 жыл бұрын

    Very clear video, delivered good information without elaboration. Speaking voice is calm, clear and to the point. Good idea on "clocking" the holes. Thank you.

  • @stifflers69mom1
    @stifflers69mom16 жыл бұрын

    Thank you please keep making videos it’s people like you that save the average joes hundreds of dollars

  • @GTObearclaw1

    @GTObearclaw1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Check out my newest video about greasing bearings that have inner seals. According to come experts I just made magic happen. Lol

  • @rcfallis3399
    @rcfallis33997 жыл бұрын

    Russ, Great video and a top shelf mechanic for sharing your tips. The Lord gave you a gift, keep sharing.

  • @GTObearclaw1

    @GTObearclaw1

    7 жыл бұрын

    RC Fallis Thanks, greatly appreciated

  • @TheIronDuke502
    @TheIronDuke5024 жыл бұрын

    Great Suggestions. I have a 38 inch John Deere deck that has the very same aluminum spindle housings that so far have not needed a bearing replacement. Seeing this video makes me want to use the grease gun more often.

  • @GTObearclaw1

    @GTObearclaw1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Check out my newest video, I show bearings before and after greasing to show how grease enters bearings even if they have dust seals. So much bad information out there from morons who don’t even know what they are talking about. Have to be careful what information you trust. So I show the bearings before and after to prove where the grease goes.

  • @dnlmachine4287
    @dnlmachine42877 жыл бұрын

    Thats some nice work. Actual, functional improvements and information that save time and money. Good camera work too. Subscribed. Stay gold.

  • @GTObearclaw1

    @GTObearclaw1

    7 жыл бұрын

    dnl machine thanks for taking time to comment. That's what fuels me to add more vids when I think of things that might help others.

  • @shawnasick8550
    @shawnasick85507 жыл бұрын

    so glad I saw this.I'm fixing the mower while the bf is out of town for 2 weeks.I bought a new spindle but broke off the STbolt when trying to remove the old one.Spindle came with new STbolts...but I think I'll drill out the broken one and put a regular bolt in there like u said. I think the Self Tapping thing is a bad idea when something will eventually need replacing...I understand it makes the fit tighter and I hope it doesn't loosen up if I don't use it. Thanks!(ps.Ive never worked on a mower, just my old Camaro, but I am bound and determined to get this 3 acre lawn mowed b4 its up around my butt

  • @GTObearclaw1

    @GTObearclaw1

    7 жыл бұрын

    shawna sick Glad your doing it yourself, something to be proud of when it's completed. I prefer nuts and bolts, I very much dislike the self tappers. I almost always go with the nut and bolt over a self tapper. Just remember, you may need to drill hole out a little bigger to use a larger bolt and nut.

  • @captcosmic7402
    @captcosmic74027 жыл бұрын

    man, I love that. priceless info! This will save me a bunch of headaches. Of course I'll create my own in the process

  • @GTObearclaw1

    @GTObearclaw1

    7 жыл бұрын

    captcosmic Thanks for the comment. Hopefully you don't have any issues. It's nice to do the work yourself and know it's done right and save some $.

  • @captcosmic7402

    @captcosmic7402

    7 жыл бұрын

    fer sure

  • @dddddd2100
    @dddddd21003 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video, I tried just drilling out the broken off bolts, I was able to get one but broke 2 drill bits in the process.

  • @GTObearclaw1

    @GTObearclaw1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yea. Ghat sucks. I hate to ruin a drill bit. And chances of getting all 4 holes drilled out exactly on center is highly unlikely. That’s why I like starting with fresh holes.

  • @enriquemendoza8209
    @enriquemendoza82093 жыл бұрын

    Great idea.....kudos

  • @danmcleod7365
    @danmcleod73655 жыл бұрын

    Good info to have , I will be tearing mine down this winter, there is some new noise coming from down under. Gotta be bearings?

  • @dddddd2100
    @dddddd21003 жыл бұрын

    If you drill the holes at 5/16 what diameter size bolt do you use? 1/4" or will 5/16 go through the hole? also are the deck holes large enough to accommodate a 5/16 bolt? do you use lock washers ? Thanks.

  • @michaelrickman3161
    @michaelrickman31613 жыл бұрын

    Good info, thank you. If you haven't heard, you can fix thoe hiccups with a teaspoon of sugar. Just don't overdo it with the sugar.get a packet of sugar, or use a teaspoon, let the sugar dissolve in your mouth, then swallow it. Gets rid of hiccups nearly every time.

  • @GTObearclaw1

    @GTObearclaw1

    3 жыл бұрын

    They gone already

  • @aeridyne
    @aeridyne7 жыл бұрын

    I didn't know they made those rings, so need as my deck is rusted and cracked badly. Glad I watched! Biggest issue right now is that I can't get the darn top pulley nut off for anything!

  • @GTObearclaw1

    @GTObearclaw1

    7 жыл бұрын

    aeridyne it's rare for those top spindle nuts to stick like that, but when they do, no impact will budge em. Iv felt with hundreds of spindle nuts and so far only had two stick solid and had to blow off with a torch

  • @aeridyne

    @aeridyne

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the tip, I wonder if my impact just isn't as good as I think, which it probably isn't and needs a rebuild. Bought it used. Did end up just buying a whole new spindle kit and two of these reinforcing rings, appreciate the answer .

  • @aeridyne

    @aeridyne

    7 жыл бұрын

    By the way, I have another whole deck that is a nightmare, the tops of those spindles & nuts are so rusted it would be hell, haha. Wanted to use the spindles & blades off it because they are still good but I knew there was no way I was getting that stuff off without meticulous cutting so I just bought the kit.

  • @GetRealBaby

    @GetRealBaby

    5 жыл бұрын

    Did you take the time to add WD40 to the tops of those spindles? WD40 (or another penetrating lub of your choice) will and does work IF you don't expect the stuff to work over night. WD40 takes a few squirts a day for several days (I go with 5 days for most jobs) and after adding a touch of heat to the offending bolt or nut, it comes off like magic. Rust is porous, that's why WD40 works...it seeps over time through the rust and lubricates the threads. Penetrating lubs are cheap compared to the time, trouble and expense of a stuck or busted part.

  • @timbrown2637
    @timbrown26377 жыл бұрын

    Great idea!

  • @GTObearclaw1

    @GTObearclaw1

    7 жыл бұрын

    Tim Brown Thanks.

  • @p5377
    @p53776 жыл бұрын

    I am planning to redesign spindles, any ideas for design improvements?

  • @GTObearclaw1

    @GTObearclaw1

    6 жыл бұрын

    mala modi - the spindles on this specific equipment (Deere L,LA,D series) are actually very strong. No need to do any redesign. Just need to beef up the deck mount. The deck actually breaks where these mount because it’s the weak point on these units. That spindle is a solid piece of aluminum and very strong itself. Actually one of the best designs out there. So nice it’s got room for drilling new mounting holes if the self tappers break off. Beautiful!!!. Unlike the aluminum craftsman and mtd cub troy bilt and others that are basically a tripod or quad post mount. When the bolts snap in those, they are trash.

  • @dddddd2100
    @dddddd21003 жыл бұрын

    what would cause a john deere 42" mower deck vibrations, worse when grass cutting height is set higher (5) when set lower on (2) not as bad but still vibrates. I have replaced the belt, both blades they are balanced, both idler pulleys and both spindles. Is it possible that the new belt is defective? or could the Spindle Pulleys be causing it? they don't wobble or look bad but the center where they are keyed to fit the spindle shaft shows some wear and the fit loose but the lock nut tightens down and then the pulleys are tight.

  • @GTObearclaw1

    @GTObearclaw1

    3 жыл бұрын

    If belt looks good it’s probably fine, if it has a thin spot it will cause vibrations as the belt passes pulleys but iv yet to see a new belt do that. I’d suspect the mounting bolts where spindle connects to deck is loose or a bearing is going bad considering the new parts you mentioned.

  • @dddddd2100

    @dddddd2100

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GTObearclaw1 I have replaced both spindles, both idler pulleys, the belt and blades. tightened down all bolts and nuts to very tight. the only thing left is the two spindle pulleys, they have a 6 sided area called a hexagon where they mate up with the spindle pulley, the 6 sided area on the spindle pulleys is worn so there is slop and you can move them left and right.BUT once the nut is tightened down these pulleys are secure in place. do you think the could be off center slightly and cause a vibration? Thanks for replying back.

  • @vtrombly
    @vtrombly5 жыл бұрын

    Have you building weld up on the bolt then using a vice grip to get it out?

  • @GTObearclaw1

    @GTObearclaw1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Vince Trombly - I’ll give it a try. Sometimes heat will do the trick. But in most cases when all four are locked tight, it would be a challenge to get all 4 out without snapping one. Maybe a great tip if it works for the MTD and craftsman spindles that don’t have room to redrill new mounting holes. In the case of this style like in my video, it takes about 2 minutes to do it this way. I’ll try your idea, maybe just weld a bigger nut on top so I can get the heat into the bolt and have something better to grip with a wrench.

  • @GetRealBaby

    @GetRealBaby

    5 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget to WD40 your work as I've mentioned before. Those who bad-mouth WD40 are the same ppl who squirt the stuff on on second and expect it to work like magic the next. It takes time for any penetrating lub to seep through the rust, which is porous, and work as designed. Over zealous mechanics bust bolts when they should take their time and let the lub do its job. I squirt a rusted bolt as many as 4 times a day and then let it sit "soaking" for as many as 5 days. I can almost hear the stuff working away on that stubborn bolt. It's a joy not to bust off bolts!

  • @vtrombly

    @vtrombly

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@GetRealBaby If that isn't a true statement. I do wd followed by a couple cycles of heat gun heating and cooling days prior to removal like you say works wonders.

  • @josephwilliams1352
    @josephwilliams13523 жыл бұрын

    My blade bolt broke so I can't remove the pulley nut without the entire spindle turning, any suggestions?

  • @GTObearclaw1

    @GTObearclaw1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Joseph Williams. Old the pully in your hand tightly and use an impact to bust the nut loose. Or if you can’t grip it tight enough weld a blade to the bottom of shaft so you have more leverage. the shaft is most likely trash if a bolt is broke off in it. I can usually hold the pully and knock the nut off with impact.

  • @robbyers7614
    @robbyers7614 Жыл бұрын

    I have a taiwanian nut stuck in my spindle. I've used a Dremel and I still can't get it off so I'm probably just going to replace that whole part

  • @GTObearclaw1

    @GTObearclaw1

    Жыл бұрын

    Depending on what brand the mandrels fit. Most can’t be saved when nuts break but the Deere housings have plenty of room to drill new mounting holes

  • @jacobmullins5966
    @jacobmullins59665 жыл бұрын

    Did anyone have the bolt from the spindle snap inside the deck as well? How would remove the bolt without ruining the treads

  • @GetRealBaby

    @GetRealBaby

    5 жыл бұрын

    What do you mean "snap inside the deck"? This video is a good example of why WD40 is required before you attempt to remove any bolts from anything. If you give WD40 a few days to work, giving the bolts a squirt a few times a day, it will penetrate through the threads and allow the bolts to be removed. The only reason bolts break under pressure is because of a rust build-up around the threads. The rust is NOT solid, it's porous. WD40 (or a penetrating lubricant of your choice) will seep into the rust (not overnight...it takes a few days!) and will eventually lubricate the threads enough to turn them out. You're welcome.

  • @GTObearclaw1

    @GTObearclaw1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jacob Mullins I don’t guess I understand

  • @GetRealBaby

    @GetRealBaby

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jacob, it's me who doesn't understand what you meant by: "Did anyone have the bolt from the spindle snap inside the deck?" What do you mean by "inside the deck"? Sorry, I guess I'm slow.

  • @JustMe-mg6vw
    @JustMe-mg6vw3 жыл бұрын

    I want that green sizing tool!

  • @GTObearclaw1

    @GTObearclaw1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just Me - are you talking about the green ring clamped onto the spindle housing? They can be purchased on Amazon and eBay and most likely available other places too. Listed as a deck repair ring.

  • @PaulWinfieldCollector
    @PaulWinfieldCollector5 жыл бұрын

    Cant crack that top nut 7/8" seems to be frozen or need an impact wrench :(

  • @GTObearclaw1

    @GTObearclaw1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Paul Winfield - Iv never attempted to remove without an impact but I can imagine it would be hard. Leave blade on and put a block of wood between blade and deck. It will hold the shaft in place while you turn. I have ran into many that even an impact won’t remove and had to cut the top nut off to disassemble. The spindles don’t come with a pully on this type so you got to get it off.

  • @GetRealBaby

    @GetRealBaby

    5 жыл бұрын

    Did you try adding WD40 a few times a day for several days before attempting to crack that top nut? You might, after addition of WD40 a few times a day for several days, hit the nut with a bit of heat to expand it. It'll come off no sweat.

  • @PaulWinfieldCollector

    @PaulWinfieldCollector

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@GetRealBaby Yes, on WD, the biggest issue is that there was no leverage since the blade busted off the bottom, and the shaft and bearings had ripped part of the top deck. So, just grinded it off saved the threads, got a new nut!

  • @JustMe-mg6vw
    @JustMe-mg6vw3 жыл бұрын

    The replacement parts w the spindle were nearly 150. $ for aMurray 54 “ for 3.

  • @GTObearclaw1

    @GTObearclaw1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just Me sounds a bit high if only 3 spindles but if included belt blades or other parts that would sound better

  • @JustMe-mg6vw
    @JustMe-mg6vw3 жыл бұрын

    The corrosive electrolysis that takes place w/ steel self tapping screws into an aluminum spindle is nothing less than bad engineering unless Cadet, Murray, etc al. really want you to spend big bucks to replace the aluminum spindle assemblies. This is nothing less than the Cost engineering incorporated into everything American made.