I just came here from a 7 day trip, "creating" a complete metal-album. love it! some minor issues i came along: 1. the engine ignores some prompts completely, e.g. add a "storm" or "rain" effect to an intro with nothing else. so, the later you add the intro to the whole song the less will it be composed. 2. female / male vocals are complete randomly used or even ignored. 3. as it is mentioned in this video: chorusses are rarely the same. could give the song a more natural touch, though. (if the differences are not too extreme) 4. add [piano solo] and udio will give you a guitar solo instead...oO..or a vocalist 5. instrumental intro tend to have singing bots in a fantasy language^^ after 15 seconds. 6. The creation of the CD Coverartwork crashes if the song has too much text. a. i would like to have (besides the cutting tool) an option to shorten or stretch the single parts. b. and an option to modify the whole song structure after finishing it. like text, prompts, [x], and so on And futurepedia, thx for the video :) a question: is there a list which things i can put in brackets?

As a full time musician…. This is truly unbelievable. You nailed it that anyone who says “bro, I know this is totally AI generated” is lying. Pretty mind-blowing stuff

Wow. I was feeling depressed because of my circumstances. Nothing was shifting my mood... then your video came up. Now I can't wait to play with this. Thank you.

@futurepedia_io

Ай бұрын

Glad it could help! I’ve been having a ton of fun with it

@insurancecasino5790

Ай бұрын

Have fun and stay strong. Depression always fades.

@thewiseowl8804

Ай бұрын

@@insurancecasino5790Thank you, skull friend.

I really appreciate your videos because you not only provide a "how to", but also discuss the extremely important philosophical considerations. Great stuff, man!

The human voice sounds rich when recorded/mixed well - but the key with AI is to not make voices sound 'tinny' when shifting registers and keys. BUT it's getting there. Love this video.

In my experience in using both Suno AI and Udio, I found Suno both easier to use for longer songs and better overall in terms of music and vocal composition and continuity within each song (remembering how the verse/chorus/ sounded earlier) whereas Udio's overall sound quality is better. Udio sounds less compressed/aliased in general as compared to Suno. This is especially apparent with orchestral music which on Suno can sound like a low-bit-rate mp3 while Udio sounds nearly "CD quality."

@futurepedia_io

Ай бұрын

That’s a really good analysis, sums up my experience pretty well. Definitely depends on what you want to use it for, but I prefer the experience in Suno most of the time, even though the fidelity is better from Udio

@samnectar

Ай бұрын

The music quality in Udio is definitely a lot better, both in the audio quality and compositions.

@BKMUSIC-22

Ай бұрын

Suno ai music is good

@Snakeblood1969

Ай бұрын

I agree but I decided to remaster all my SUNO songs before uploading them somewhere, this helped A LOT.

@Cross-CutFilms

Ай бұрын

@@Snakeblood1969 how did you re-master? I saw an an Ai thing somewhere, which is now mixed amongst my 300 or so Ai related tabs and booksmarks lol, and it apparently has the ability to remaster the sound quality of music and audio. i.e. increasing khz bitrate etc.

If suno was higher fidelity it would win hands down. If Udio solved the consistency issues it would win hands down.

Multitrack AI music will be the game changer for this industry and whoever does that first will win the game

@powerpackip112

Ай бұрын

Up

@johnwalkerlee3465

Ай бұрын

can already split songs into tracks online using AI, does a pretty good job for TikTok level music. Band In A Box also reverse engineers songs. But yeah, studio grade vocals would be amazing

@bobbyboyderecords

Ай бұрын

Why do we need that? What could we (the 'industry') do with this multitrack? AI will be able to arrange, structure, mix and master it better than you and then there is no game to win, this game is now over and in the space of a hobby like fishing is to commercial fishing. Legally who owns the stuff that comes out of these AI sites also, not the button presser I think, can you copyright it - I don't think so as far as my knowledge of music copyright goes.

@nemesisone8927

24 күн бұрын

Inpainting Udio

@BenjaminTemplar

24 күн бұрын

I just learned about RipX DAW Pro which does just that. Separate all instruments and vocals. I tried their trial version last night and it is truly amazing!

Amazing!! Wow and yes blown away by Suno and Udio and big thanks for Noisee, am creating some vids now 🎉

@futurepedia_io

Ай бұрын

Been having lots of fun with all of them!

@jlaurifer4732

Ай бұрын

Where’s Noisee? Cant find it either in appstore nor google.

Suno and Udio should join forces!

@zaphenath6756

Ай бұрын

sunudio!

I’m blown away how well mixed and mastered these sound.

Happy birthday, Irvin!

Don’t get me wrong, this is crazy tech. However as of right now there are a few things that I find AI music does consistently that can set it apart: 1 - it has very little idea of song structure, often putting emphasis in weird places and structuring lines in unconventional ways. (It can have a cool effect, though) 2 - AI tends to layer the vocals a lot more than normal songs (I assume to cover up slight inconsistencies in the voices) and the mixing is always a little instrumental-heavy (likely for the same reason) Again, this is still crazy tech, but as of right now those are a couple things that set human made music apart.

I am a song writer and this has really helped to make my demos to present my songs I write to the artist, if I choose to use an artist.

@thesidneychan

Ай бұрын

That's awesome. Great that you still approach real artists.

The part where they had Udio just doing comedy and sports commentary and such just blew my mind. The ASMR made me chuckle. But yeah, singing is so hard that when you can sing, you can do anything. Artificial human voices have been solved.

is it okay to use for your youtube? Who owns the final project and music?

That's mind-blowing. Thank you for presenting those tools👍

Not gonna lie, as a musician myself, the thought of AI cranking out radio-ready hits does make me a little nervous for the future of human artists. But you make a fair point that true artistry will always have a space. Maybe this leads to dope human-AI collaborations?

Udio definitely helped me more to create unique songs for my channel.

This is the best video about AI Music on KZread right now.

Wow, a acompetitive alternative to Suno already?!? Scary for the whole music industry, from Berklee and Juilliard to Avid and Waves and of course all instrumentalists, media composers, songwriters and singers. One ring to rule them all.

Man!!! Delta sorrow touched my heart.

As a creator of tracks with a jazzy vibe Udio works great!

In UDIO it is much more difficult to make a good long composition than in SUNO, but if you try hard, you can achieve simply amazing results. Using my own lyrics, I made several tracks in different styles. And some of them, I dare say, are really good. Alternative rock in the spirit of Skunk Anansie: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hqOTvNKgnrjHfag.html Progressive rock slightly reminiscent of Porcupine Tree: kzread.info/dash/bejne/daOZmqxwgZrTo7Q.html Progressive metal similar to a mixture of Mastodon and Haken: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qaGq1ZSEY9Ddm6g.html Alternative metal vaguely reminiscent of Tool and Deftones: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e2V60rqsc7O_hNo.html Progressive rock in the spirit of early Genesis: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gKl3zct9kbjfm6g.html Alternative rock in the style of Alanis Morissette: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kZyOtZilYtyZado.html Eric progressive rock with female vocals: kzread.info/dash/bejne/inyZyK-MYt2tnbA.html

i couldnt't sleep because this was way too amazing to use haha xD

@oliviagrubbstrom

Ай бұрын

Me too 😜 haha ;D

Thanks for the Info. But question is will the youtube channel be monetized if i generate song with Suno?

@oliviagrubbstrom

Ай бұрын

From what I have read I think you can monetize it if you payed for Suno. Suno "owns the songs" if you just have the free version.

The number one problem has been noted by a lot of us who write songs. It's a deal breaker for me. I don't care how realistic it sounds if I can't write a full song with consistent choruses. I still prefer Suno. ***UPDATE: Issues fixed, now using Udio 100% of the time. Suno started running downhill as fast as possible to a point where it now often sounds horrible.

@StephanBuchin

Ай бұрын

Then do your work and edit or try again.

@aimusictv1

16 күн бұрын

@@StephanBuchin I've done over 100 songs for my channel, so I do work and edit all the time. But I wasn't alone in my opinion. Before it was fixed, it had more issues that just inconsistent choruses and I was fine with Suno. But that and other issues have since been fixed plus new features were added while Suno rapidly declined. Now, I prefer Udio.

It's CRAZYYYYY how much of a Nas this sounds like 3:48 :D

First AI came for artists, and i said nothing because i don’t draw… then they came for photographers, and i said nothings because I don’t take pictures. Then they came for songwriters and there was no one left to speak for me.

@Justise

Ай бұрын

you sound like a horse breeding in 1908.

@allocater2

Ай бұрын

First AI came for artist, and i said nothing because i don’t draw… then they came for photographers, and i said nothings because I don’t take pictures. Then they came for musicians and I said nothing because I don't sing. Then they came for coders and there was no one left to speak for me.

@hotshot6674

Ай бұрын

Cringe.

@w3lshm3n

Ай бұрын

Lol, love this

@ArmaGeddon-iu1vv

Ай бұрын

@@hotshot6674 If something goes over your head.. "cringe"

Too cool! I jumped right on it, and gave it a try. Wow!

13:04 "Extrarrestial" craft lading :D

thank you, very informative

Hi do you know if i can use the songtext from Udio Users and make new Songs with it?cause in udio u cant Write to a Creative and ask

As a singer can I use this tech to create the backing music ? Then what can I put it into to add my voice ?

Great help, thx a lot !

hi. If we use the songs we produce here on KZread, will we have problems with copyright?

Impressive! I did two songs with my own words

The idea of "musical brands" using AI to pump out songs, then hiring artists to perform them on tour is both genius and dystopian at the same time. I could totally see that model taking off though, as sketch as it sounds. Hopefully transparency about the AI involvement at least.

Imagine an endlessly generated playlist, where you can press "like" so it learns and generates more songs like this in the future and if you press "dislike" it generates less of this in the future. Getting better and better, running on millions of humans to train the AI, ...wait are we the tool-user or the tool?

I've already impressed clients with this - THANK YOU!

AI implementation in the plugin/Daw will come soon

@futurepedia_io

Ай бұрын

For sure. Will be awesome once you can do everything on one platform

like your prompts they are good

Also, I could not figure out how to start new section of a song in Udio at certain time like

It's all getting close but you can definitely tell that it is off quality wise and mixing wise but most people will probably not notice except mix engineers and music producers. Is there an AI that can generate the same solid vocal and then be able to export the stems for use in a DAW?

What does the future hold if AI can be used to make music and videos ?

it would be cool if you did a updated version

I have been making punk industrial techno, heavy metal on suno and it takes me a few tries but I got great results (the singing not the best at times), But with udio so far I'm having a hard time making something that "new", or making longer songs, in suno I'm making at times some 9 minutes electronic songs that are great beginning to end. Hopefully Udio is gonna get there too.

@RubenMillsOfficial

Ай бұрын

To be clear you didn’t actually make anything

@Noellexafael

Ай бұрын

@@RubenMillsOfficial I composed the song so I made something? I was mostly trying to find the beat to go with it

@RubenMillsOfficial

Ай бұрын

@@Noellexafael I guess that depends on where you want to draw the line when defining making something. To me typing in some lyrics and rearranging what the AI does doesn’t qualify as being an artist, but you do you. Maybe you did more than that. The weird thing is people won’t know the difference especially when listening on phone speakers, not to mention when the quality improves.

@ArmaGeddon-iu1vv

Ай бұрын

@@Noellexafael You are completely unaware of the AI's creative process - it's not considered "composing" when you request someone else to do it for you. The AI generates something like"sample collages" using data sourced from non-copyrighted material found on the Internet. Your use of AI is essentially not even on par with the least skilled DJs from the early '90s, who were never considered musicians/producers. If you wish to convey yourself artistically, why not learn the proper methods? Authenticity is crucial in music - this is merely a feeble effort to mask the absence of creative inspiration, Music is fckn human skill and art.

@Noellexafael

Ай бұрын

@@ArmaGeddon-iu1vv I strongly disagree, what is different from that or a fashion designer that doesn't draw or sew ? Some huge fashion designers only have a vision and they get someone to draw and make the garment for then and what I do is exactly the same. I have my lyrics and I have my vision and I use the aí to make it for me. It's not like I type rock and get what I want, I'm playing with a new style that is very underground so it takes me several times to get something of my like. Several real artists are just the face, they have producers and composers that do everything for them, I'm very involved in the production of the music I'm making. I wouldn't go as far as calling myself a musician but it has some credit to it if I'm the one composing no? Makes me at least more hands on than several famous artists.

A lot of thanx 👍

Omg I can finally have the asmr I want and not the horrible ones (or the same ones I have watched hundred times) yipi

Can we use the music in our content though? Or will we get copyright like most of the other ai music generators

@APOWER385

Ай бұрын

Good point

@kiapandora2510

Ай бұрын

i would like to know too.

@DanDoesGame

Ай бұрын

@@kiapandora2510 no its copyrighted unless you pay for a subscription.... issue with that is once you stop paying for the subscfription all your content will get a copyright..... so

How do you get udio to do non singing stuff?

Site appears to be down. Can't seem to login, keeps coming up with errors. Pretty amazing overall though.

Thanks great vid ai is just amazing

Anything like STABLE DIFFUSION which runs locally for THIS MUSIC GENERATION?

Wow, wow, wow! for decades I have dreamt of this kind of software and now it's here. It's beyond my expectations.

15:40 "the nr 1 problem... chorus" SOLUTION: use=> [chorus repeat]

Yes it beats suno in many ways and their new addition Inpainting is even crazier.

I like udio, but Suno is better when it comes to doing full songs. I've been using it to re imagine songs I've written. Genius stuff

@RubenMillsOfficial

Ай бұрын

What do you mean songs you wrote? You mean the lyrics and then you just let it do whatever with it?

@UmpORama

Ай бұрын

@@RubenMillsOfficial yes. Ive taken unreleased lyrics and even songs I've recorded and re imagined them in different genres.

Anyone can tell me how they did the non-music like sport analysis ?

You're wrong, I can definitely tell it's AI, but not because of the lyrics, phrasing or instrumentation. There's a tonne of phasing issues with current AI generated music, as well as mixing (and lack of mastering). Having said that, this is early days and I don't think it will be long before these things are resolved. As a composer I'm horrified but intrigued. It's an absolute marvel, with horrifying prospects.

Right now I'm using suno but I'm willing to try other ai tools

I wonder if u can use the same singer across the Generations

@RubenMillsOfficial

Ай бұрын

That’s what all the posers are hoping for for sure. That way they can fully pretend.

It's perfect for video game tracks and advertisement jingles!

First was audio effects, text and Image in 2022, then Fotorrrealism in 2023, then Music and Emotion recognition and generation in the face mimic muscles at the beginning of 2024 next are coming short Videoclips at the end of 2024. Architecture, measured and rendered images and coding in 2025, engineering, medic and humanlike robotics in 2026 and finally science and AI discovering new matterials, new physics in 2028. AI is copying and pasting Biology at an astounding pace.

Can you pay to have the copyright on these songs? Can you download stems and midi?

@ArmaGeddon-iu1vv

Ай бұрын

No, it will never happen. One Day this will develop into a shop for regular consumers - no musicians needed anymore.

We are getting out the hood with this one $

I'm waiting for traditional tracks to add, chop and splice from other songs that were generated, then let the AI do its magic from there. That would be "true" AI music generating. Can't believe that is not a thing yet.

AI music is not even boring anymore.

Have your tried BFF AI? Has all the tools you want

One thing I don't like about Udio is that it's hard to go from say a female singing a hook to a male rapping without it becoming the same female voice sing rapping. Suno handles this much better the majority of the time. The audio quality though is a huge factor in why I'm hooked on Udio right now though.

Suno makes better, catchier, _music_ , Udio makes better quality and _voices_ .

@futurepedia_io

Ай бұрын

That’s a good summary of it. They’re both awesome, but I think I have more fun in Suno

I was today years old when I found out The Wiggles genre is pub rock

Has anyone tried making reggaeton? How good was the result?

@Kr4nni

Ай бұрын

I tried it's awesome you should try 👌it can sing in multiple language too

I for one, welcome our new AI beat master overlords.

tried 5 different prompts and crashed every time ???

I Like Udio's Interface but notice a lot of the songs sound like they are stealing someone else voice. One song I heard on Udio sounded Like David Bowie.

Humans can’t compete with this. New regulation is required. They’re feeding all of humanity’s expression into a blender to spit out made-to-order songs built on the backs of everyone, but without compensation. That’s what I see at least (and I know I’m not alone).

@bjul

Ай бұрын

finally someone who gets it !! people are truly stupid and brainwashed

It is difficult to get the right mood for classical music on Udio.

Poor Seth

KZreadr Monzon Media shows you how to get consistent choruses.

09:37 - GEMIDÂO DO ZAP [LOUD MOANING GIRL MEME]

I don't know. Even in your examples, I felt every Suno song sounded better than every Udio song. Suno follows lyric inputs pretty well whereas my (limited) experience with Udio has it almost completely ignoring my prompts. I think that once one of these companies makes a generator that will follow lyrics to the tee AND will allow input of musical notes, they will have won. I've made hundreds of gens of a couple songs I'm working on and neither service will generate what's in my mind so these are just toys really where we can roll and get something fun but can't use them as tools.

Will A.I replace me and the rest of type beat producers?

Help!! Ai jobloss is the only thing I worry about anymore.

Not working . Constantly giving errors.

@futurepedia_io

Ай бұрын

Really? I’ve been using it a ton with very few errors

@sniffrat3646

Ай бұрын

I thought it was just me

@nayyarrazakazmi8386

Ай бұрын

@@futurepedia_io yes gave up after one hour of constant errors and finally unsubscribed. May be overloaded servers but definitely didnt like the first impression full of errors

@WickedMTG

Ай бұрын

Same. Site actually not working.

Only reason i still use suno is that udio does not remember its own chorus, so repeating chorus is impossible unless you do it 30 seconds aftet the first one, nonsense

Going to just copy paste my dilemma. I felt a little nicer when I wrote this, so I'll keep my rage to copy and paste. Been playing professional Bass and Drums for 20 years now. This is the beginning of a very dehumanizing future, fun stuff now but long term is something people don't take into consideration Of course when new toys come out that is currently mind-blowing everyone is going to be so positive and defend it to the death. But this isn't my idea of something that will be a companion to help you expand your music. It is replacing your creativity and will make alot of people who already struggle with confidence they will get to that place they dream about as a musican, completely give up. Why spend a year of ups and downs as you are start from nothing but ideas in your mind and see them turn into complete songs. This will become the norm like everything else, our collective attention span is awful. Nothing slows down so anyone can catch their breath before something bigger and better arrives, its pretty unreal I don't see more people being realistic of the path this will most likey take for the majority of humans who lived a life already feeling left behind by society. Where does that lead us? There is beauty in creation over time to see your final product and look back on the hard work. Those are moments that makes life have meaning. Family and those accomplishments that lets you show how hard you've worked as you publish who you were at that moment in your life, captured through the language of music (something I beleive is such a beautiful way to say who you are and around the world its the language you don't need to learn too understand the meaning of why it was written). I really hope I'm wrong, but seeing people already pushing this so hard it doesn't matter about what I'm saying. Its becoming more impossible everyday to have anyone step back and realize this could push us completely out of the way in place of a prompt that takes less effort then making coffee in the morning. And its not just the music apps, its a frenzy to see if they can make AI for everything eventually that gives you the proud moments we hang on too. I know theirs amazing possibilities in this. But THINK. I'm more concerned about where we sit with these amazing creations. It's pretty F*cking low already. And it gives me a sense of sadness cause I know the feeling of not understanding where you are supposed to fit. Be excited, just sharing a different perspective on what its making me feel.

Cool! Hope you guys like Noisee!

My limited experience with udio seems that suno makes much better music while udio does superior voices.

UDIO IS NOT WORKING FOR MANY OF US Does someone from here have this issue ?

@futurepedia_io

Ай бұрын

Is the site just not working at all? For some reason I have to use a vpn every time I access it, not sure why

@puntidioma

Ай бұрын

@@futurepedia_io That is correct is not working at all for me since yesterday I saw some posts in reddit where some other users have the same issue.

I found udio to be very inconsistent when extending songs. Hard to create a longer song. Suno is way better at that.

Suno is still way better.

@cg.man_aka_kevin

Ай бұрын

For music with vocal, I agree Suno is very good especially the voice sounds feels natural. But for instrumental no vocal, Udio is far better. I've tried orchestra with many vibes and theme, I shocked that it's not feels stiff like in Suno, just super duper realistic!

I hate Ai in terms of full production music and video. I also hate those who promote what will ultimately be the END of humanity. Regarding music generation it breaks every copyright law that exists. It cannot work without sampling all music that is released over the years.

What I don’t like about you is that they want you to shout them out or - give them arbitration. So I think right now Suno is better because you can do whatever you want with your generated music and you don’t have to shout them out. Does anyone know of a good AI stem splitter that will also help us create notation? Because I do want to take these songs and make them more of my own and bright parts to it.

My prediction is at some point the big music studios will start buying up all these AI music generators so they can claim rights to anything anyone makes.

Like Suno, udio hallucinates massively when trying to create something in other languages, for example in Russian. It creates stuff in some non-existing language, that it thinks resembles Russian, but it is senseless sounds. But it is funny nevertheless.

First, you have zero rights to any outputs, under any circumstances. So you cannot use even 1 second of an output anywhere commercially. Non-commercially you have to give credits. This is understandable, it may change when they move into a paid plan, but... There is a big BUT there, I tried it with my own lyrics, non-english language, Turkish actually. The prompt was "alternative rock, male voice". It gave 2 outputs. I started to play and I was like WTF!? They were like; the first one is exactly the same vocal from called "mor ve ötesi" and almost exactly one of their song with my lyrics. Second was the same vocal of a singer named "Teoman" and almost one of his songs with my lyrics on top of it. The outputs were copy-cats, nothing creative. So that makes me question the capabilities of their ai model. Also while they have such legally binding and strict "terms of service", the way of they are violating artists' rights felt a bit hypocritical. I am not against using such training data on model training, all data should be usable on model training "in my opinion". But the model you created must be used as a piece of knowledge, not a source to copy and paste. If the model does this, that means you failed in model creation. PS: I didn't have that experience with Suno. All the outputs i got, felt unique (I barely used both of them so take the Suno part as a grain of salt)

Chapters 0:00 Intro 0:41 Prompting overview 1:27 Blues examples and comparison 3:26 Rap examples and comparison 5:15 Mind-blowing example 7:00 Noisee for music videos 7:56 Rising Sun Gospel 8:55 Noisee reference image 9:28 Alien Ocean 10:06 Disco Funk 10:25 Pop Punk 10:52 Classical 11:08 Broadway 11:43 Classic Pop 12:27 Non-music examples 13:33 Remix 15:00 More tips 15:40 Limitations 16:43 Thoughts on the future of music 20:50 Futurepedia

Seems no one ever uses harder forms of "rock", why is that? Could it be that all A.I.s are bad at it. and what about "intros"? it ALWAYS places what sounds like vocals

Udio is great