that face is just the perfect accompaniment for this

@DeathBringer769

4 жыл бұрын

It's a classic Meshuggah face, lol. You see their singer do it all the time on stage too :D

@MaXaNoMaLoUs

4 жыл бұрын

schpleeb it’s like the pained look of being possessed haha

@MrJackrockerman

4 жыл бұрын

Lol 👍👍😂

@silvercloud1641

3 ай бұрын

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The track itself isn't on Sol Niger Within, but there certainly are major influences present in this song. I hope Fredrik does another Special Defects album!

@Heliosphan33

Жыл бұрын

He’s now built a studio and he’s working on a new solo album.

fredrik totally nailed the holdsworth tone.. awesome!

What's so amazing is that fredrik is so consistent in the quality of his music. He is such a talented guitarist!

Incredible! Fredrik has a very unique style. Really good guitarist as musician.

Arguably one of the greatest and underrated musicians of our time... Thank you so very much for this upload. Peace..

@MaXaNoMaLoUs

6 жыл бұрын

Luke Hultgren influenced by the Most underrated musician, Allan Holdsworth who sadly died broke, Eddie Van Halen was influenced by Holdsworth and even played with him in 85' and was devoured whole by Holdsworth lol I wish EVH could have paid for his funeral. Whatevs, and the world keeps turning.

Fredrik is definitely a Holdsworth and and a fusion influenced guitar player for sure ....sounds fantastic!

i just like to imagine that the sound of the lead guitar is coming from his mouth in the photo

@jakeGE

4 жыл бұрын

considering he used a frequently used a midi breath controller it basically was

@williamcozart8158

3 жыл бұрын

You broke the cipher! Nine years ago, Mr @z s, by imagining the lead guitar sounds coming out of Fred's mouth you figured out that Fredrik Thordendal's solos on Secrets of the Unknown demo were an ALIEN LANGUAGE!!!! Fredrik was giving us clues, or using subliminal messages through the lead lines that made you think about the sound coming from his mouth. The language of Thordendal's guitar string worshiping species, from the planet... uh, I don't know some far off alien planet, or some exotic moon somewhere. Fred comes from a species who speak with their guitars, he's actually considered a shitty speaker by his fellow aliens standards, he sucks at guitar compared to them, they'd blow you the fuck away if you ever heard their great-and-poweful species' equivalent of say, Buckethead. I know this whole thing i'm doing here is not that funny but I wanted to keep it going more, I just ran out of ideas so I can't. I'm baked and sleep deprived, that's my excuse.

@williamcozart8158

3 жыл бұрын

I was gonna say that on Fredrik's home planet they grow another guitar string every decade or so, and fred is still a youngun, and he's a lady, on his planet. Lol IDK, I was also gonna ask if in the 9 years since you discovered the Thordendal alien conspiracy by OPing this comment if aliens had contacted you and like, you know, probed you with a guitar... anally?

@williamcozart8158

3 жыл бұрын

I sure hope all this made at least some sense, I'm so high I can't really tell. Thanks for reading.

@zakktothefuture

3 жыл бұрын

@@williamcozart8158 bruh that comment was from like 9 years ago. Im sure I was high then but i forgot this track existed until now. Thanks for the reminder.

this is a stunning piece of music, fred's solo work should be made a bigger deal of!

@zakgrigerek1530

2 жыл бұрын

I mean😅he is tho

@BourgeBoo

3 ай бұрын

@@zakgrigerek1530no BIGGER lol

I love his solos

On the picture he looks exactly like Terry Gilliam from Monty Pythons. Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition!

one of the best guitar tones ever. perfection

The ending melody is clearly from Tathagata, the final part of Sol Niger Within. Don't know if anyone said this already though.

Fredrik used to have a pretty amazing tone back in the days, kinda miss it.

he solos beautifully

@koalamusic812

Жыл бұрын

some of his solos in meshugahh kinda sound metal and jazzy. and its awesome

I don't see the problem with how similar this sounds to Holdsworth material. After all, when you are learning any musical genre, it's necessary to make your own works in the style of others. Look at classical composers for example and see how they learned. Do you think that they just sprout forth with masterpieces like Clair de Lune without having learned other masters works? Holdsworth is a master, he deserves to be studied rigorously. I'm tired of Eric Clapton clones, give me Allan and Fredrik

@robertdukarm2578

6 жыл бұрын

I don't think people understand how hard people try to sound like this and it shows how truly great Fredrick is.

@EgoShredder

3 жыл бұрын

@BooBobly So hard that to date nobody has ever genuinely done so. The very best examples are just providing a likeness and no more. Allan was a one off with his own chord and scale system, and he took the knowledge of that with him to the next world. We can only stand and marvel at what he created.

@andym28

3 жыл бұрын

His dad was mates with Holdsworth apparantly.

@franzsperginand113

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think most people care either. I think most people who make a big deal out of it are just desperate to show other people that they know who Houldsworth is.

@pivit7816

2 жыл бұрын

Literally one of his biggest influences lol

Ive been waiting almost 10 years to hear this... !!!this is great, awesome chords, holdsworth infuence FO SHO

That tone is just pure heaven. Just brilliant!

Happy Birthday! Gratulerer med dagen Fredrik! :)

Excellent post

it would be cool to listen this man and holdsworth on a fantastic jam

That's some smooth joyriding music.

Fredrik would be a fool not to do another solo album! This may be just a demo, but imagine more of this gold meticulously written out for a full album!

This is beautiful!

that unknown was the living Legend Allan Holdsworth 💪

@deluge71

8 жыл бұрын

+jumborat12 Was just going to post a comment to this effect, but you beat me to the punch. :)

@Star_Sn1per

8 жыл бұрын

Allan Holdsworth abducted by aliens = Fredrik thordendal

@awertyuiop8711

7 жыл бұрын

LOL Alien Holdsworth!!

@ricardillapujagut8073

7 жыл бұрын

Still a legend, not living anymore though...

@ap06476

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe look up "Zarabeth" from the album "Wardenclyffe Tower".

awesome song, so atmospheric and epic

i love that this video is bringing together all the fusion/metal nerds, and lacks the negativity and ignorance that we all know is so rampant on youtube. thumbs up to all you guys!

The beauty of this Fusional Endeavor never ceases to amaze me, every time I Freaking HEAR IT!

Love this sound absolutly Holdworth influence truely magic

Ahhh...thataggatha at the end. Awesome.

This sounds like a Mats/Morgan piece with Fredrik shreddin' the 8 string! Beautiful brutality!!

Allan Holdsworth and Fredrik Thordendal needs to do a collab together, it'd be out of this world For those who'd doubt, i know it accounts for nothing, but i once saw on Ron Jarzombek's site a pic of him(Ron) along with Allan I know it could turn to reality AND IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN!

@The_Kevinist

8 жыл бұрын

Update: listening to it again since it's so eargasm inducing... Even the drum parts sounds like Chad Wackerman haha

@alilacherruse

7 жыл бұрын

Chris Pouliot, Those Drums sound Wackermanish to me as well.

@nishadnadkarni7874

7 жыл бұрын

Chris Pouliot Allan Holdsworth is one of Frederik's influences so that would be cool.

@jamespeterson4275

7 жыл бұрын

Now it's not possible... :( Rest in Peace Allan Holdsworth

@tarkenton3895

6 жыл бұрын

It's a damn shame it never will now. Fredrik has one hell of a tasteful lead voice, and really carries on the legacy.

Impresionante!!

I loved ChimpSpanner!! Great melodies and skill. Thanks for the referral friend

I like this cover art.

Excellent picture choice.

Great playing This was the sound of the late 70's Fan of Allan Holdsworth

Can it get any better? I just can't stop listening to it over and over again. This is what I'd call complete musicianship...

this is effing amazing

This kicks ass!! I'm mad I didn't discover this sooner! \m/

Sublevels at the end

I love this

So good .......Amazin

Most of this (notes and sound) sound like it was inspired by Holdsworth's Metal Fatigue-are prog rock. We all know (from FT himself, that AH is a major influence, in terms of style - more than a coincidental nod... Its great of course, but frankly, I miss the implied chaos of SNW - which was mind-blowing... This just seems like Frederik phoning in a circa 90's prog album...

good news man , thank you very much.

absolutely!

You can really hear that Fredrik is inspired by Allan Holdsworth in this one

im loving this thordendal fusion work,, its very holdsworth ,bill connors esque....im loving the fuck out of this

This is just one reason why I love the metal scene, the people aren't so closeminded and make music they like, not music that follows the rules. There are no rules.

This is GOOD Music.

goosebumps

woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow... YEAH!!!! IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i love it

it kicks ass : o

Totally agree - sure it sounds like him but dude had his thing and it is most certainly beautiful

@mvunit3 Lucky for you, and everyone else, he is releasing another solo album! He's recording it right now. I can't wait!!!!!! It can't get here soon enough.

Reminds me of snes era JRPG game soundtracks. Excellent stuff.

Never heard this tune before... It is really really Holdsworth-ish, even the synth sounds. Cool.

Try to find the song 4.15 Bradford Executive, I think its on the Album called "SAND" by ALLAN HOLDSWORTH

i listen to this everyday, 333 times

@Pitacle2009 I know! I found that out a few weeks ago. I'm SOOO excited for it.

Fredrik should do more solos on meshuggah, just like on None and Destroy Erase Improve.

Reminded me on Steve Vai's 'Passion and Warfare' album. Great stuff!

Allan Holdsworth influence, Fredrik is amazing!

Very lovely prog/jazz-fusion tribute to Holdsworth!! I like to imagine the end of "Sublevels" as something inspired by Allan's "Material (Un)real".

After hearing this song, I felt myself feeling bad for the fact that deaf people will never be able to hear such musicianship.

@marcissobadass

6 жыл бұрын

Not true, they can feel it vibrationally through their hands and body. I have played guitar for deaf people and have seen them smile ear to ear when they placed their hands on my acoustic guitar and felt it. Badass shit man!

Fedt at Høre thordendal i den sammanhæng :-)

Bleed is in a major key.

Theres been a few times in my life where music came out, and no one ever matched it again. Fred Thordendal's solo career is like that, even Meshuggah somehow pales in comparison. I cant name a single of the big "progressive metal" bands on tour right now who take you this far outside of planet earth. Im referring to bands like Periphery, Born of OSiris, etc not classic prog acts that are still going

@Purkinje90 Actually, Fredrik Thordendal is working on a new solo album. If you search for Fredrik Thordendal on youtube, you will find a channel that has this name : it is his. You'll see that he's in the recording process. What a good news ! Is'nt it ?

@DC33879

7 жыл бұрын

Péjoraman 7 years later...

@EB1089 Yeah I read in Guitar World (i think it was) of an interview with him that he said he was brought up with jazz because his dad listened to it. A lot of people try to over analyze Meshuggah's music by saying they use weird meters and stuff but really their music isn't exactly "musical". They really break the rules of music and do their own thing, its just crazy how it all works out in the end. In my opinion that is true uniqueness, where most bands really suffer from copycat techniques

@mvunit3 No problem, always glad to turn a fellow fan onto good music, new artists, etc. I think he is recording it with 2 different drummers as well. Dirk Verbeuren from Soilwork and I wanna say Morgan Agren again too. I may be wrong, but I think that's right. You can actually read some studio updates from Verbeuren somewhere (google it), where he talks about how he and Fredrik jammed out for hours, just doing improv drum patterns for Fredrik to play on top of. Should be badass. Can't wait!

dude, who DOESN'T love that little riff? haha

This guy is amazing. I wish I knew what this was from.

wish i could make my music sound this good, Fredrik is God!!!!

seconded.

9:06 Sublevels

@tobytruman33

7 жыл бұрын

Hahaha yes!

@GriniteGaming

7 жыл бұрын

Which again is from the outro of Allan Holdsworth's Material Real!

@awertyuiop8711

7 жыл бұрын

Oskar Oh really?! Damn, I'm searching it right now!

@benceabraham4909

5 жыл бұрын

not only Sublevels and this...that's his signature melody :D

@U2SaxFan

5 жыл бұрын

It also sounds like Tathagata (the ending of Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects' Sol Niger Within album).

I will! thanks

yeah its kind of mind boggling when i hear him say he doesnt know music theory.i guess some people are just naturally gifted

@blackdeathgrind I'd buy it for sure, those two are musical geniuses!

3:32 girl from ipanema motive...

DAMN cool indeed, one of the best live as well with Meshuggah. Anyone heard the solo album by Tosin Abasi? He calls himself Animals as Leaders, pretty awesome stuff

had the guitar lick from 0:26 to 0:36 stuck on repeat in my head for months before remembering it was on this song.

This is really nicely done. Please continue the legacy (side project?) with some great guys like Anthony Crawford, Skulli or Jimmy Johnson and Husband, Coliaiuta or Wackerman.

@jacobtapianieto9655

Жыл бұрын

Gary Novak too!

@ChicorelliC It's also in "Sublevels" from the "Destroy Erase Improve"- Album

If I didn't know any better I'd swear this is Sir Holdsworth playing metal haha! Trying to play like Allan is fucking impossible!

@onthevirg Yes! Those dudes tear it up. I love their "Simpsons" inspired cover. Awesome stuff

yeah, I mean I'm sure he's studied holdsworth's work extensively. Also holdsworth openly describes the sorts of scales and chords he prefers, and I bet fredrik understands exactly how to recreate his technique. at the same time I find it strange that sometimes fredrik has incredibly simplistic solos, that are like 1 or two notes repeated (especially live) despite that, they still work with meshuggah stuff hehe.

@needlearmor Hell yeah! War Damn Eagle right back at ya! I can't believe theres another Auburn guy that likes Fredrik. My all time favorite band is Meshuggah hands down, and there's not even close 2nd. You dont find many people with such good music taste down on the Plains. Its mostly crappy radio rock and country. Cam 4 Heisman ;-)

@suspect157 Chris Poland is no different. He was also hugely influenced by Holdsworth. Chris is an amazing musician when it comes to guitar, especially jazz fusion guitar. So if a guy like Chris Poland with such a distinctive style tone and diversity can't understand theory, I understand why someone equally talented ( like Fredrik ) by all rights would not be able to either. His ears make the sense he is a learner by ear, as am I, as is chris poland. It's a wonderful gift really.

amazing! still waiting to hear something from marten?

I've always liked this. I wish there was a 250kb/s or higher res

Big Allan Holdsworth influence....I love it. wish I knew where to buy this if it is indeed available.

@jadedmastermind to me, it's even better than missing time. this here is a true masterpiece. hopefully, he will do something like SNG, again.

He told me he's workin' on it. Gotta be patient!

fredrik the only dude i could genuinely mistake for allan holdsworth

Amazing demo. Ending kind of sounds like the ending of Sub Levels from Meshuggah's Destroy Erase Improve.

@jacobtapianieto9655

Жыл бұрын

The chord sequence is exactly the same used in that song. Makes me remember to the ending of Allan Holdsworth's "Material Real".

imagining if Fredrik made an album w/ Holdsworth...

@Power2theFlyingV haha, wow. i've always heard holdsworth in his playing, but that is probably the best way to put it.

Agreeed!

*Fredrik Thordendal eats a lot of electronic abacus for breakfast.*