Frankel - Where it all began. His first race Newmarket Maiden

I was at Catterick Racecourse one evening having a fairly poor time when I decided to go into the on course bookmakers to see what was running elsewhere. I noticed a Newmarkey maiden upcoming and a Henry Cecils unraced Colt priced at 7/4 there was a lot of hype about it. so I lumped on well the rest was history I guess

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  • @grudeman
    @grudeman Жыл бұрын

    The beginning of a monstrous beast! The likes of which we will never see again. Frankel basically got me into racing, now seeing his sons and daughters win group 1 races is incredible. Long live the king 👑

  • @911LAMBER

    @911LAMBER

    Жыл бұрын

    You saw better a few years later. Sea the stars was far far superior

  • @jackhillman1955

    @jackhillman1955

    Жыл бұрын

    it will be seen again, like the greats of the past.

  • @jamespage6628

    @jamespage6628

    Жыл бұрын

    @@911LAMBER Sea The Stars ran a couple of years before Frankel.

  • @kurman4749

    @kurman4749

    24 күн бұрын

    You cannot possibly make such a sweeping statement. How can you know that there will not be other horses in the future who will be as good or even better than Frankel?

  • @johnwilson783
    @johnwilson783 Жыл бұрын

    The backers of Nathaniel came up against the one horse in history that was never going to finish second to anything

  • @kurman4749

    @kurman4749

    24 күн бұрын

    The great Ribot was never beaten in 16 races, and there have been many others who remained unbeaten throughout their racing careers.

  • @jeroldchinttgmail

    @jeroldchinttgmail

    24 күн бұрын

    Frankel should be called second to none end of story

  • @katewild2194
    @katewild2194 Жыл бұрын

    I have been racing for over sixty years and I can tell you one of the best horses I ever saw the race he won at York put the seal on it for me.

  • @mattrogers6487

    @mattrogers6487

    Жыл бұрын

    Missed the kick on shitty ground against Cirrus des Aigles. Yeah Queally tried real hard to get him beat that day 😅

  • @BBoyBiff

    @BBoyBiff

    7 ай бұрын

    100% agree , cirus was a muti group 1 winner and frankel beat him honourably

  • @200degrees.

    @200degrees.

    5 ай бұрын

    My dad and grandad used to go on about these type of horses , Nijinsky, red rum , desert orchid and so forth, I knew exactly what they meant the day I seen Frankle absolutely destroy the best the world could fling at him,and he did so with ease !! we are so lucky to see probably the best horse of all time in our lifetime ., thank you FRANKEL 🙏. Rip Henry 🙏

  • @kurman4749

    @kurman4749

    24 күн бұрын

    @@200degrees. You cannot possibly claim that Frankel, or any other horse for that matter, was probably the best of all time. For your ridiculous claim to be true Frankel would have had to have raced against ALL the other great horses of history and beaten them which, of course, is simply not possible.

  • @christiphermeadows5348
    @christiphermeadows53482 жыл бұрын

    Best flat horse ice ever seen...n also glad Henry Cecil trained it.... 🙏

  • @kurman4749

    @kurman4749

    Жыл бұрын

    Best flat horse ice ever seen?

  • @doinggreat9197
    @doinggreat91972 жыл бұрын

    I had no idea i was watching the dawn of a truly great racehorse.

  • @phobsdsr4326

    @phobsdsr4326

    2 жыл бұрын

    In all reality, he put Nathaniel to bed in the end. Toyed with a pretty decent horse. Thought he’d do better than he has done as a sire so far though, maybe as he did, they improve a bit with age or the next crop. Frankel however, still the best Miler I ever seen on grass no doubt.

  • @connormorris7538
    @connormorris75382 жыл бұрын

    Gamble of the race Nathaniel. I wonder what connections of Nathaniel thought when frankel came along side 🤣🤣

  • @Huffy1001
    @Huffy1001 Жыл бұрын

    Frankel and Nathaniel (2nd) raced on debut, goin’ full circle Nathaniel raced Frankel on his final G1 win the Qipco Champion Stakes at Ascot comin’ 3rd beaten 4 1/4 lengths, great story🐴🔥

  • @thomasburgess1210
    @thomasburgess12102 жыл бұрын

    Frankel and Henry WHAT A HORSE WHAT A MAN JUST CLASS

  • @BBoyBiff
    @BBoyBiff7 ай бұрын

    What a maiden , nathaniel and genius beast , both group 1 winners in their own right , quealy just let his hand off the choke for a few seconds , what a horse 👌

  • @phobsdsr4326
    @phobsdsr43262 жыл бұрын

    Nathaniel, a very good horse. But so was Farhh, Canford Cliffs, St Nicholas Abbey and Cirrus Des Aigles. All multiple Group winners yet none of them could shine whilst on track with the mighty Frankel. He’s half beast half machine..

  • @cpdoody76

    @cpdoody76

    Жыл бұрын

    On his day shady mouse would beat them all

  • @JuiCeh93

    @JuiCeh93

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cpdoody76 yeah, no he wouldn’t. Nothing beats Frankel on turf between 7f-10f on his day, no matter the ground.

  • @michaeldowd5545

    @michaeldowd5545

    4 ай бұрын

    They are ok Group winners but definitely nothing special. None of them finish in the top 8 Dancing Braves Arc. Frankels Owners bottled going to the Arc. With the dross he had to beat it makes you wonder. None of them get within 10 lengths of Roberto when he beat Brigadier Gerard in the York International. None of them get close to El Gran Senor or Chief Singer in his 2000 Guineas and that includes Frankel. Frankel beat nothing special. I think Frankel beats Dancing Brave, but nobody beats El Gran Senor at a mile except maybe Brigadier Gerard

  • @michaeldowd5545

    @michaeldowd5545

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@JuiCeh93 El Gran Senor at a mile as a 3yo. I think he beats him easy. Chief Singer finished 2nd to EGS in the 2000 G . look up Chief Singers in the James Palace performance. Frankel never raced a horse like Chief Singer.

  • @Mr_Nigeria100
    @Mr_Nigeria1002 жыл бұрын

    Great race. When you consider Nathanial went on to win a King George and a Eclispe tells you how good this performace was by Frankel. This was probably the hardest race Frankel ever had or should I say Nathaniel was the only horse to really eyeball Frankel and make him work and even then I still thought Frankel always had him covered.

  • @doinggreat9197

    @doinggreat9197

    2 жыл бұрын

    They met in Frankel's first and last race. Nathaniel accquited himself extremely well in both.

  • @GBeret83

    @GBeret83

    Жыл бұрын

    @Keith Essien, It's fair to say that Frankel & Nathaniel ended up being the real meat and potatoes that came out of this Newmarket maiden. But lest we forget, also in the field that day lining up for this race was future Ascot Gold Cup winner & Sagaro Stakes winner (Colour Vision), who beat Opinion Poll in the Ascot Gold Cup and Red Cadeaux in the Sagaro Stakes and future Sandown Classic Trial winner(Genius Beast).

  • @fredwaller5045
    @fredwaller5045 Жыл бұрын

    Sir Henry knew he had a class animal on his hands with Frankel

  • @vimtocrazy739
    @vimtocrazy7392 жыл бұрын

    What a Superb First run . Never knew he’d had a race .

  • @lesliemccarthy6845
    @lesliemccarthy6845 Жыл бұрын

    great great horse and what a lovley man henry cecil was rip x

  • @jamesparsons9068
    @jamesparsons90682 жыл бұрын

    An amazing horse and I think we knew it from the start.

  • @katiebaby60
    @katiebaby60 Жыл бұрын

    Nathaniel great stallion father of Enable Frankel also great stallion.

  • @user-pb6ij9nl1y
    @user-pb6ij9nl1y Жыл бұрын

    Какой удивительно сильный и быстрый Френкель!!!Приятно смотреть,как в любой скачке он легко всех обгоняет!Славный конь!

  • @basilfawlty8244
    @basilfawlty82442 жыл бұрын

    "There's not a lot left, or is there..? Frankel is going away, or is he..?" 😂

  • @goose1056

    @goose1056

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thomo can't commentate for shit bless him

  • @basilfawlty8244

    @basilfawlty8244

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@goose1056 Funny though. :-)

  • @greencell1968

    @greencell1968

    2 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant!

  • @oslinthompson8182

    @oslinthompson8182

    2 жыл бұрын

    For a moment there, I thought I was watching a Monty Python skit!

  • @chrispafrieddreams9118

    @chrispafrieddreams9118

    2 жыл бұрын

    Trevor would've been like "nothing but a hand ride on Frankel" the other Jockey was asking his horse for his life...

  • @robertorobins8938
    @robertorobins89382 жыл бұрын

    The birth of a legend

  • @darylheasman1
    @darylheasman1 Жыл бұрын

    And so it all began.....the mighty Frankel

  • @denis888red
    @denis888red Жыл бұрын

    'the well backed Nathaniel'... No wonder. King George winner and absolutely top class horse. I'll bet connections couldn't believe him getting beat!

  • @gezzaf6912
    @gezzaf69122 жыл бұрын

    7 to 4 still a lovely price when you look back

  • @vincentcarney8671
    @vincentcarney86712 жыл бұрын

    Great debut the second Nathaniel proved to be no slouch!

  • @scouserdan3

    @scouserdan3

    2 жыл бұрын

    Frankel beat 25 separate group 1 winners in his career who between them won over 71 group 1s... and this is the coolest he ever was to defeat

  • @vincentcarney8671

    @vincentcarney8671

    2 жыл бұрын

    He was the best I have seen! Dancing brave was the best I had seen before Frankel 🐴

  • @adrianhudson1116

    @adrianhudson1116

    2 жыл бұрын

    Colour Vision too, second to last in this maiden and then went on to win the Ascot Gold Cup.

  • @doinggreat9197

    @doinggreat9197

    2 жыл бұрын

    Enable's dad.

  • @phobsdsr4326

    @phobsdsr4326

    2 жыл бұрын

    Adrian Hudson the mighty grey. Frankie got me a good win in a listed race at Kempton prior to his big win. Always a top animal in my eyes and didn’t even realise he was in this maiden. 👍

  • @jeroldchinttgmail
    @jeroldchinttgmail Жыл бұрын

    There is a saying that states Give Jack his Jacket meaning give credit to where credit is due in the case of Frankel give Frankel his Jacket the greatest of all time

  • @kurman4749

    @kurman4749

    24 күн бұрын

    That can NEVER be proven!

  • @jeroldchinttgmail

    @jeroldchinttgmail

    24 күн бұрын

    @@kurman4749 is it a mathematical problem that needs to be proven ?

  • @BBoyBiff
    @BBoyBiff5 ай бұрын

    Easily the best maiden of all time

  • @johnflynn5044
    @johnflynn50442 жыл бұрын

    Remember it well and we all knew. The 7/4 was as big as he got that day and I foolishly got stuck in at 11/8 having heard all about him Nathaniel was of course a solid G1 performer

  • @robertwilliams9234
    @robertwilliams9234 Жыл бұрын

    Very lucky jockey to get this horse

  • @albertdunne4350
    @albertdunne43507 ай бұрын

    City of troy here he comes

  • @thequietmanpaddynevin9091
    @thequietmanpaddynevin90912 жыл бұрын

    Beats Nathaniel hands heels it’s like the whole tv crew commentators etc had been watching him at home with the anticipation in there voice

  • @thomasstorey9043
    @thomasstorey90432 жыл бұрын

    A true champion

  • @davidmcmahon5234
    @davidmcmahon52345 ай бұрын

    My friend said it to me thw week after l think l seen a superstar last week frankle he actually backed him how right he was

  • @user-ny9nd7iu2s
    @user-ny9nd7iu2s4 ай бұрын

    it's crazy if you asked me after watching his first race he will turn into a power house i would have laughed at you frankel just about got the win

  • @BBoyBiff
    @BBoyBiff2 жыл бұрын

    7-4! Think thats the biggest price hes ever been

  • @chrisdukefields9868
    @chrisdukefields98682 жыл бұрын

    Great horse

  • @owtwilldo
    @owtwilldo Жыл бұрын

    “There’s not a lot left or is there, he’s going to win or is he?” Desperate commentary as usual from Tommo 😂

  • @alanpage3973

    @alanpage3973

    Жыл бұрын

    Worst racing commentater ever

  • @jbradley538

    @jbradley538

    Жыл бұрын

    Ha ha he could always read a race that lad...

  • @stevejames8070

    @stevejames8070

    Жыл бұрын

    How does that bloke gets paid?? Absolute shambles of a commentator

  • @justthetruth1

    @justthetruth1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stevejames8070 have a go Steve

  • @jackskerry2467

    @jackskerry2467

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah, Tommo is the worst ever. The amount of times I’ve heard his say “Oh that’s close” in photo finishes. Talk about stating the obvious 😀

  • @zehaford2697
    @zehaford26972 жыл бұрын

    amazing horse

  • @user-fs6sl2er1x
    @user-fs6sl2er1x7 ай бұрын

    When they say legend that's what Frankel was a true legend

  • @peterfaikjr-thebiggestince92
    @peterfaikjr-thebiggestince922 жыл бұрын

    Amazing

  • @user-rj8sk8zn6p
    @user-rj8sk8zn6p5 ай бұрын

    Simply the greatest

  • @kurman4749

    @kurman4749

    24 күн бұрын

    In your opinion, which you cannot prove.

  • @felixlieter1429
    @felixlieter14292 жыл бұрын

    After watching flat racing very closely over the past few years i can understand why Quaelly was entrusted with Frankel & not any of the bigger name jockeys of the time.

  • @dvanz7002

    @dvanz7002

    2 жыл бұрын

    can you maybe explain?

  • @theLowestPointInMyLife

    @theLowestPointInMyLife

    Жыл бұрын

    Because he was Cecils stable jockey, Dan Brown wont be writing any books about the mystery.

  • @felixlieter1429

    @felixlieter1429

    Жыл бұрын

    @@theLowestPointInMyLife ah come on Tom. That means nothing.

  • @theLowestPointInMyLife

    @theLowestPointInMyLife

    Жыл бұрын

    @@felixlieter1429 I don't remember any instance of queally not riding abdullahs horses for Cecil at the time, he was stable jockey, it's as simple as that

  • @davidharrison9501
    @davidharrison95012 жыл бұрын

    Saw him win queen anne at royal asvot 1st race of meeting Only race i was interesting in Ajd the guinnees win was semsational

  • @clivesangster6754
    @clivesangster67542 жыл бұрын

    How did he get on

  • @drewbabydrew7742
    @drewbabydrew77422 жыл бұрын

    I see on this page the mare Winx 33 straight and world record grp 1's .She s Australien

  • @thomdidikai3323
    @thomdidikai3323 Жыл бұрын

    The debut of a legend and effing Tommo made the call. How did he ever get paid for commentary

  • @tonykelly4151
    @tonykelly41512 жыл бұрын

    Colour vision, Nathaniel and Frankel, has there ever been a higher class maiden?

  • @colincgc

    @colincgc

    2 жыл бұрын

    Genius Beast won a Group3 Classic trial a few months later too

  • @michaelmaloney4517
    @michaelmaloney45172 жыл бұрын

    Amazing I always backed him when it was financially viable... Sometimes his prices were silly.. Pleasure to watch

  • @michaelmaloney4517

    @michaelmaloney4517

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Joseph Elliott well done

  • @steelheart8573

    @steelheart8573

    Жыл бұрын

    An honour to watch.

  • @FarooqBhatti.
    @FarooqBhatti.2 жыл бұрын

    We love Kerm Din owner of Pakistan Star 💖😇❤

  • @markmurray1651
    @markmurray16512 жыл бұрын

    Breeding mate, I seen Frankel and knew he was a superstar,

  • @MarinaMarina-pe3qu
    @MarinaMarina-pe3qu6 ай бұрын

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @edmondscott7444
    @edmondscott74442 жыл бұрын

    Jockey rode to instructions and rarely lost a race he should have won. Great memories.

  • @BulmeR2007

    @BulmeR2007

    2 жыл бұрын

    He didn't lose a race mate. You could have rode Frankel. Tom Queally has lived off it since. Arm chair ride.

  • @patricksmith3432
    @patricksmith34322 жыл бұрын

    We've seen the best ever

  • @deanos72

    @deanos72

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not for me ! Dancing Brave would have been to much for him over a mile & 10f the calibre of horse Frankie beat was not in the same class as the ones Dancing Brave beat week in week out ! Zoffany wouldn’t have got within 10 lengths of Dancing Brave !

  • @patricksmith3432

    @patricksmith3432

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@deanos72 This debate will go on forever my friend and I'm in the Frankel camp

  • @deanos72

    @deanos72

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@patricksmith3432 watch the the 86 Arc ! At the furlong pole , Dancing Brave isn’t in the picture & there is 7 group 1 winners in front him & he wins going way by three lengths! Just take that in ! Frankel never done anything close to that ! I’m a massive Frankle fan but he’s not in my top 3 of all time

  • @patricksmith3432

    @patricksmith3432

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@deanos72 Respect watch ascot queen Elizabeth 11 length win second DAYLIGHT

  • @deanos72

    @deanos72

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@patricksmith3432 I don’t understand! ? 7 group 1 winners , the English & French derby winners & he wasn’t in the picture , but wins going away by three lengths! Show me a race where Frankel even run against opposition like that !

  • @OlivierZaman-xy1bh
    @OlivierZaman-xy1bh Жыл бұрын

    Only a litlle bit asking on the end, frankel wellicht done boy 😊❤ 3:02

  • @mikemoores1631
    @mikemoores16312 жыл бұрын

    Frankel wasn't even trying ,just the norm lol

  • @stephenmontgomery8530
    @stephenmontgomery853010 ай бұрын

    Frankel beat everything put in front of him easily .Dancing Brave was a wonder horse but I don t think he would have beat Frankel.

  • @edwardcooper3948

    @edwardcooper3948

    9 ай бұрын

    nothing in the history of the sport would have

  • @kurman4749

    @kurman4749

    24 күн бұрын

    That is something you will never know, will you?

  • @kurman4749

    @kurman4749

    24 күн бұрын

    @@edwardcooper3948 And how do you propose to prove your assertion?

  • @seadrifter8975
    @seadrifter8975 Жыл бұрын

    Frankels pulling away or is he ?

  • @dcphotograferchristou557
    @dcphotograferchristou557 Жыл бұрын

    2 best horses

  • @ceesmith
    @ceesmith Жыл бұрын

    Derek Thompson, what a guy.

  • @blackporscheroadster-yw8hb
    @blackporscheroadster-yw8hb Жыл бұрын

    Nathaniel must have been a decent horse too.

  • @OfficialMuffiin

    @OfficialMuffiin

    4 ай бұрын

    Nathaniel was great in his own right, won Group 1s and sired the powerhouse mare Enable.

  • @sage6336
    @sage63362 жыл бұрын

    Nathaniel was a good horse

  • @EnjoytheQ.
    @EnjoytheQ.2 жыл бұрын

    Got fucking soaked that day

  • @tonyscanlon1372
    @tonyscanlon13722 жыл бұрын

    Hands and hells for the jockey so easy

  • @mrforevernever517

    @mrforevernever517

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Hells"?

  • @lucafrancescodelucca738
    @lucafrancescodelucca7382 жыл бұрын

    Ha vinto a mani basse.

  • @tonybaloney4195
    @tonybaloney41952 жыл бұрын

    What price was he

  • @wayneeboiii122

    @wayneeboiii122

    2 жыл бұрын

    7-4....biggest he ever was of course

  • @tonybaloney4195

    @tonybaloney4195

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@wayneeboiii122 thanks for that

  • @stephenrichardson2969

    @stephenrichardson2969

    2 жыл бұрын

    $2.70 in decimal odds

  • @wayneeboiii122

    @wayneeboiii122

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stephenrichardson2969 so 7-4 like i told him a week ago then yeah haha

  • @stephenrichardson2969

    @stephenrichardson2969

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@wayneeboiii122 I realise you said that a week ago I put the odds in decimal as downunder we stopped using fraction odds a long time ago so it’s for the benefit of anyone who read your comment on the odds could relate to decimal. Anyway thanks for putting the odds he jumped at as I was interested to know. ps The 7-4 meant nothing to me but thanks to google I got the conversion.

  • @don__hector7845
    @don__hector78454 ай бұрын

    imagine being on nathaniel youd have had your house on him

  • @gmseed1908
    @gmseed19082 жыл бұрын

    Frankel - was that one with 4 legs?

  • @silenusut
    @silenusut Жыл бұрын

    Thanks. I don’t recall connections ever asking him again to race on anything like as soft?

  • @johncopeland3826
    @johncopeland3826 Жыл бұрын

    I loved Frankel , but that nagging doubt for the connections not to have run him over 1 mile 4 furlongs is the only stain on his copy book ! All through his pedigree would have been middle distance relatives. How can you say he's the best ever when he never ran in a Derby or an Arc over the distance ...Its the biggest cock up in racing history for me !

  • @kurman4749

    @kurman4749

    24 күн бұрын

    The benchmark of all the great champions has been winning one, or both, of the recognized championship races... the Epsom Derby or the Arc. As brilliant as Frankel and Brigadier Gerard undoubtedly were, their 2000 Guineas wins do not carry the same prestige as a Derby or Arc success.

  • @wow8416
    @wow84162 жыл бұрын

    I’ve seen weaker group 1s than that maiden

  • @aidanjoyce3248
    @aidanjoyce32482 жыл бұрын

    Goat

  • @TrifficLad33
    @TrifficLad332 жыл бұрын

    Awful commentary as usual from tommo, i'm suprised he didn't call "photo that's a photo, i'll leave that one to the judge.

  • @iancarpenter6298
    @iancarpenter62982 жыл бұрын

    frankels won or has he...um yep i think he has....only just though...or was it .....brough did frankel win?...yes thommo hands and heels...oh i thought he did...bless him...

  • @jimmeed121
    @jimmeed1212 жыл бұрын

    Pity he couldn't travel

  • @JSB-1976ER
    @JSB-1976ER Жыл бұрын

    Not a lot left 😂

  • @MegaALEXLOUIS
    @MegaALEXLOUIS Жыл бұрын

    Thommo's commentary is classic 😂

  • @matthewsheen4057
    @matthewsheen40572 жыл бұрын

    Didn't even touch him

  • @user-jd1wp5pq3q
    @user-jd1wp5pq3q8 күн бұрын

    Not exactly an armchair ride but then again, it was his first race.

  • @scottlee2832
    @scottlee28322 жыл бұрын

    The obligatory rubbish commentary from Tommo..What a superstar Frankel was & Nathaniel was top class too, bet they couldn’t believe they got beat.😀

  • @crawford1083

    @crawford1083

    2 жыл бұрын

    He just is an embarrassment, total drivel.

  • @Tweeterandthemonkeyman

    @Tweeterandthemonkeyman

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm just shocked that he didn't say that something was "coming with a good looking run". The man is a balloon.

  • @alanpage3973

    @alanpage3973

    Жыл бұрын

    Worst racing commentator ever

  • @leonbrookes4794
    @leonbrookes47942 жыл бұрын

    the camera poor

  • @Lem8sh
    @Lem8sh2 жыл бұрын

    The amount of aftertiming here is hilarious.

  • @bobmatthews151
    @bobmatthews1512 жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure Nathaniel won a king George... Colour vision won a gold cup... A Pretty hot maiden I reckon!!

  • @OfficialMuffiin

    @OfficialMuffiin

    2 жыл бұрын

    Won a King George and sired the only 3x King George winner Enable in his first crop. Very classy maiden indeed.

  • @NigelBragg

    @NigelBragg

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pretty hot maiden is almost an understatement given the careers of the first two. Nathaniel was a star, and Frankel was a generational talent.

  • @ppp7277

    @ppp7277

    2 жыл бұрын

    No shit 😂

  • @fazfinisher5598
    @fazfinisher55982 жыл бұрын

    Tommo, the drama queen of commentators.

  • @JohnWard-mb9hp
    @JohnWard-mb9hp2 жыл бұрын

    Still think Brigadier Gerard would have beaten him with level weights

  • @kevinharrison5009

    @kevinharrison5009

    2 жыл бұрын

    John Ward. No chance.

  • @darrensmith4279

    @darrensmith4279

    2 жыл бұрын

    John ward i disagree u cant say that.different eras conditions etc.lets b blessed with a brilliant horse.frankel was unbeaten b.gerard got beat.i preferred mill reef but b.g had beaten him.its pie in the sky.frankel rated better in timeform than b.g so lets say all brilliant horses

  • @kevinharrison5009

    @kevinharrison5009

    2 жыл бұрын

    Zafonic. Now Zafonic over a mile could possibly have beaten them all. It is pure hypothesis though of course, we will never know as horses aren't machines.

  • @jeanlawley6483

    @jeanlawley6483

    2 жыл бұрын

    Err nah

  • @ryanboyd517

    @ryanboyd517

    2 жыл бұрын

    Said many times on here,, comments on other horses,,eras,, Frankel was a one off freak of nature,,massive stride,,combined with a ridiculously high cruising speed,,,I'm 48yrs old and been betting 33 years ,,never saw anything even close to him,,,, just my opinion 😏

  • @andrewdawes302
    @andrewdawes3022 жыл бұрын

    Frankel was never ever whipped on the bit every race freak of a horse 🐴

  • @vincentwhelan475
    @vincentwhelan475 Жыл бұрын

    No Derby or Arc... Not the best.

  • @tomtheeagle1

    @tomtheeagle1

    Жыл бұрын

    What nonsense!

  • @vincentwhelan475

    @vincentwhelan475

    Жыл бұрын

    How's it nonsense ?.It's an opinion ...The best races tend to be run over slightly longer distances that's why I have this view.

  • @ppp7277
    @ppp72772 жыл бұрын

    I recon Zafonic would do him over a mile

  • @phobsdsr4326

    @phobsdsr4326

    2 жыл бұрын

    If anyone could.... I just think back to Zafonic’s 2000 Guineas. So much guts and class. Runs through the line and sticks his neck out like a proper winner. It’s hard to say. You have to also appreciate how impressive Frankels Guineas looked, I know he didn’t run against anything near his quality but he could have won running backwards. His galloping style and way he ate the ground makes him almost impossible to get past over a mile. Would love to hear that with See The Stars, Kingman and Camelot. What a Guineas that would be!

  • @ppp7277

    @ppp7277

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@phobsdsr4326 ZAFONIC OPPOSITION FAR BETTER!!!!

  • @phobsdsr4326

    @phobsdsr4326

    2 жыл бұрын

    Peter Steward I’m only 38 so was a kid at the time but have watched it back a good few times and there’s no doubting the opposition back then we’re solid in comparison to Frankels Guineas.

  • @ppp7277

    @ppp7277

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@phobsdsr4326 far better opposition

  • @ppp7277

    @ppp7277

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BertSmithLondon 😂

  • @WESSERPARAQUAT
    @WESSERPARAQUAT2 жыл бұрын

    otherwise tremendous debut just a real tragedy who was calling the race one of the worst in the biz the dreaded tommo ghastly , that soiled it ....who's gunna get there, that's one for the judge, in the yella colours

  • @jamesdonaldson6322
    @jamesdonaldson63222 жыл бұрын

    Derek Thomson? There is not a lot left? Fuckin trumpet.

  • @jobsworthism
    @jobsworthism2 жыл бұрын

    Typical Thommo commentary ..its like hes watching another race to us

  • @crawford1083

    @crawford1083

    2 жыл бұрын

    He and that other chav Tim Peters I cannot abide.

  • @jimbowie4504
    @jimbowie45042 жыл бұрын

    The owners of nathaniel thot there horse was a cert that day

  • @alanmansell9845
    @alanmansell98452 жыл бұрын

    Outside of my own family of I could bring back two people from heaven it would bill shankly and sir henry cecil, in my opinion when those 2 great men died, there sport died eith them !

  • @lfcmonkeyyyman6229
    @lfcmonkeyyyman6229 Жыл бұрын

    Derek Thompson... worst ever commentator!! "Who's gonna get there?" Anyway, imagine having a huge gamble on the horse Nathaniel, beating the rest of the field by 6 lengths but still losing to an unknown horse... the unknown horse Frankel turned out pretty damned good!!

  • @stephenlord1939
    @stephenlord19392 жыл бұрын

    worst commentator ever and hes still in a job how do these people get away with it

  • @swogger21

    @swogger21

    2 жыл бұрын

    He's a mason

  • @bobbyhanly3466
    @bobbyhanly3466 Жыл бұрын

    Should have tried him over a mile and a half. He was by Galileo. Safety first career. Never raced outside England.

  • @Chief_Brody
    @Chief_Brody2 жыл бұрын

    Selkirk was a better miler- FACT

  • @alanchalkley565

    @alanchalkley565

    2 жыл бұрын

    So was Gordon Pirie FACT

  • @lagosfury5142

    @lagosfury5142

    2 жыл бұрын

    You have lost your bloody mind,smh

  • @lagosfury5142

    @lagosfury5142

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alanchalkley565 nope

  • @alanchalkley565

    @alanchalkley565

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lagosfury5142 dope!

  • @brianfarman2747
    @brianfarman27472 жыл бұрын

    Tudor Minstrel at level weights over 1mile would have had to much speed for Frankel

  • @carradalebear840

    @carradalebear840

    2 жыл бұрын

    You have a single figure IQ.

  • @davidfletcher1116

    @davidfletcher1116

    2 жыл бұрын

    And what about Arkle loool

  • @clivehuther4154
    @clivehuther41542 жыл бұрын

    Derek Thompson the worst commentator in racing

  • @stephenburke5967
    @stephenburke59672 жыл бұрын

    Name one race Frankel won outside England,name 8 horses that won the 2k Guineas in a faster time than Frankel, name the same horses he beat time and time again.

  • @rickyfairbank6208
    @rickyfairbank6208 Жыл бұрын

    Still has to be the poorest commentary I’ve ever witnessed, Tommo stole a living out of racing 😂😂😂😂

  • @tipster-challenge
    @tipster-challenge Жыл бұрын

    awful commentary as usual by Derek Thompson

  • @rokn9591
    @rokn9591 Жыл бұрын

    Thommo is truly embarrassing at commentating. His job is to say what is happening not keep asking rhetorical questions