Frankel - Where it all began. His first race Newmarket Maiden
I was at Catterick Racecourse one evening having a fairly poor time when I decided to go into the on course bookmakers to see what was running elsewhere. I noticed a Newmarkey maiden upcoming and a Henry Cecils unraced Colt priced at 7/4 there was a lot of hype about it. so I lumped on well the rest was history I guess
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The beginning of a monstrous beast! The likes of which we will never see again. Frankel basically got me into racing, now seeing his sons and daughters win group 1 races is incredible. Long live the king 👑
@911LAMBER
Жыл бұрын
You saw better a few years later. Sea the stars was far far superior
@jackhillman1955
Жыл бұрын
it will be seen again, like the greats of the past.
@jamespage6628
Жыл бұрын
@@911LAMBER Sea The Stars ran a couple of years before Frankel.
@kurman4749
24 күн бұрын
You cannot possibly make such a sweeping statement. How can you know that there will not be other horses in the future who will be as good or even better than Frankel?
The backers of Nathaniel came up against the one horse in history that was never going to finish second to anything
@kurman4749
24 күн бұрын
The great Ribot was never beaten in 16 races, and there have been many others who remained unbeaten throughout their racing careers.
@jeroldchinttgmail
24 күн бұрын
Frankel should be called second to none end of story
I have been racing for over sixty years and I can tell you one of the best horses I ever saw the race he won at York put the seal on it for me.
@mattrogers6487
Жыл бұрын
Missed the kick on shitty ground against Cirrus des Aigles. Yeah Queally tried real hard to get him beat that day 😅
@BBoyBiff
7 ай бұрын
100% agree , cirus was a muti group 1 winner and frankel beat him honourably
@200degrees.
5 ай бұрын
My dad and grandad used to go on about these type of horses , Nijinsky, red rum , desert orchid and so forth, I knew exactly what they meant the day I seen Frankle absolutely destroy the best the world could fling at him,and he did so with ease !! we are so lucky to see probably the best horse of all time in our lifetime ., thank you FRANKEL 🙏. Rip Henry 🙏
@kurman4749
24 күн бұрын
@@200degrees. You cannot possibly claim that Frankel, or any other horse for that matter, was probably the best of all time. For your ridiculous claim to be true Frankel would have had to have raced against ALL the other great horses of history and beaten them which, of course, is simply not possible.
Best flat horse ice ever seen...n also glad Henry Cecil trained it.... 🙏
@kurman4749
Жыл бұрын
Best flat horse ice ever seen?
I had no idea i was watching the dawn of a truly great racehorse.
@phobsdsr4326
2 жыл бұрын
In all reality, he put Nathaniel to bed in the end. Toyed with a pretty decent horse. Thought he’d do better than he has done as a sire so far though, maybe as he did, they improve a bit with age or the next crop. Frankel however, still the best Miler I ever seen on grass no doubt.
Gamble of the race Nathaniel. I wonder what connections of Nathaniel thought when frankel came along side 🤣🤣
Frankel and Nathaniel (2nd) raced on debut, goin’ full circle Nathaniel raced Frankel on his final G1 win the Qipco Champion Stakes at Ascot comin’ 3rd beaten 4 1/4 lengths, great story🐴🔥
Frankel and Henry WHAT A HORSE WHAT A MAN JUST CLASS
What a maiden , nathaniel and genius beast , both group 1 winners in their own right , quealy just let his hand off the choke for a few seconds , what a horse 👌
Nathaniel, a very good horse. But so was Farhh, Canford Cliffs, St Nicholas Abbey and Cirrus Des Aigles. All multiple Group winners yet none of them could shine whilst on track with the mighty Frankel. He’s half beast half machine..
@cpdoody76
Жыл бұрын
On his day shady mouse would beat them all
@JuiCeh93
Жыл бұрын
@@cpdoody76 yeah, no he wouldn’t. Nothing beats Frankel on turf between 7f-10f on his day, no matter the ground.
@michaeldowd5545
4 ай бұрын
They are ok Group winners but definitely nothing special. None of them finish in the top 8 Dancing Braves Arc. Frankels Owners bottled going to the Arc. With the dross he had to beat it makes you wonder. None of them get within 10 lengths of Roberto when he beat Brigadier Gerard in the York International. None of them get close to El Gran Senor or Chief Singer in his 2000 Guineas and that includes Frankel. Frankel beat nothing special. I think Frankel beats Dancing Brave, but nobody beats El Gran Senor at a mile except maybe Brigadier Gerard
@michaeldowd5545
4 ай бұрын
@@JuiCeh93 El Gran Senor at a mile as a 3yo. I think he beats him easy. Chief Singer finished 2nd to EGS in the 2000 G . look up Chief Singers in the James Palace performance. Frankel never raced a horse like Chief Singer.
Great race. When you consider Nathanial went on to win a King George and a Eclispe tells you how good this performace was by Frankel. This was probably the hardest race Frankel ever had or should I say Nathaniel was the only horse to really eyeball Frankel and make him work and even then I still thought Frankel always had him covered.
@doinggreat9197
2 жыл бұрын
They met in Frankel's first and last race. Nathaniel accquited himself extremely well in both.
@GBeret83
Жыл бұрын
@Keith Essien, It's fair to say that Frankel & Nathaniel ended up being the real meat and potatoes that came out of this Newmarket maiden. But lest we forget, also in the field that day lining up for this race was future Ascot Gold Cup winner & Sagaro Stakes winner (Colour Vision), who beat Opinion Poll in the Ascot Gold Cup and Red Cadeaux in the Sagaro Stakes and future Sandown Classic Trial winner(Genius Beast).
Sir Henry knew he had a class animal on his hands with Frankel
What a Superb First run . Never knew he’d had a race .
great great horse and what a lovley man henry cecil was rip x
An amazing horse and I think we knew it from the start.
Nathaniel great stallion father of Enable Frankel also great stallion.
Какой удивительно сильный и быстрый Френкель!!!Приятно смотреть,как в любой скачке он легко всех обгоняет!Славный конь!
"There's not a lot left, or is there..? Frankel is going away, or is he..?" 😂
@goose1056
2 жыл бұрын
Thomo can't commentate for shit bless him
@basilfawlty8244
2 жыл бұрын
@@goose1056 Funny though. :-)
@greencell1968
2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@oslinthompson8182
2 жыл бұрын
For a moment there, I thought I was watching a Monty Python skit!
@chrispafrieddreams9118
2 жыл бұрын
Trevor would've been like "nothing but a hand ride on Frankel" the other Jockey was asking his horse for his life...
The birth of a legend
And so it all began.....the mighty Frankel
'the well backed Nathaniel'... No wonder. King George winner and absolutely top class horse. I'll bet connections couldn't believe him getting beat!
7 to 4 still a lovely price when you look back
Great debut the second Nathaniel proved to be no slouch!
@scouserdan3
2 жыл бұрын
Frankel beat 25 separate group 1 winners in his career who between them won over 71 group 1s... and this is the coolest he ever was to defeat
@vincentcarney8671
2 жыл бұрын
He was the best I have seen! Dancing brave was the best I had seen before Frankel 🐴
@adrianhudson1116
2 жыл бұрын
Colour Vision too, second to last in this maiden and then went on to win the Ascot Gold Cup.
@doinggreat9197
2 жыл бұрын
Enable's dad.
@phobsdsr4326
2 жыл бұрын
Adrian Hudson the mighty grey. Frankie got me a good win in a listed race at Kempton prior to his big win. Always a top animal in my eyes and didn’t even realise he was in this maiden. 👍
There is a saying that states Give Jack his Jacket meaning give credit to where credit is due in the case of Frankel give Frankel his Jacket the greatest of all time
@kurman4749
24 күн бұрын
That can NEVER be proven!
@jeroldchinttgmail
24 күн бұрын
@@kurman4749 is it a mathematical problem that needs to be proven ?
Easily the best maiden of all time
Remember it well and we all knew. The 7/4 was as big as he got that day and I foolishly got stuck in at 11/8 having heard all about him Nathaniel was of course a solid G1 performer
Very lucky jockey to get this horse
City of troy here he comes
Beats Nathaniel hands heels it’s like the whole tv crew commentators etc had been watching him at home with the anticipation in there voice
A true champion
My friend said it to me thw week after l think l seen a superstar last week frankle he actually backed him how right he was
it's crazy if you asked me after watching his first race he will turn into a power house i would have laughed at you frankel just about got the win
7-4! Think thats the biggest price hes ever been
Great horse
“There’s not a lot left or is there, he’s going to win or is he?” Desperate commentary as usual from Tommo 😂
@alanpage3973
Жыл бұрын
Worst racing commentater ever
@jbradley538
Жыл бұрын
Ha ha he could always read a race that lad...
@stevejames8070
Жыл бұрын
How does that bloke gets paid?? Absolute shambles of a commentator
@justthetruth1
Жыл бұрын
@@stevejames8070 have a go Steve
@jackskerry2467
7 ай бұрын
Yeah, Tommo is the worst ever. The amount of times I’ve heard his say “Oh that’s close” in photo finishes. Talk about stating the obvious 😀
amazing horse
When they say legend that's what Frankel was a true legend
Amazing
Simply the greatest
@kurman4749
24 күн бұрын
In your opinion, which you cannot prove.
After watching flat racing very closely over the past few years i can understand why Quaelly was entrusted with Frankel & not any of the bigger name jockeys of the time.
@dvanz7002
2 жыл бұрын
can you maybe explain?
@theLowestPointInMyLife
Жыл бұрын
Because he was Cecils stable jockey, Dan Brown wont be writing any books about the mystery.
@felixlieter1429
Жыл бұрын
@@theLowestPointInMyLife ah come on Tom. That means nothing.
@theLowestPointInMyLife
Жыл бұрын
@@felixlieter1429 I don't remember any instance of queally not riding abdullahs horses for Cecil at the time, he was stable jockey, it's as simple as that
Saw him win queen anne at royal asvot 1st race of meeting Only race i was interesting in Ajd the guinnees win was semsational
How did he get on
I see on this page the mare Winx 33 straight and world record grp 1's .She s Australien
The debut of a legend and effing Tommo made the call. How did he ever get paid for commentary
Colour vision, Nathaniel and Frankel, has there ever been a higher class maiden?
@colincgc
2 жыл бұрын
Genius Beast won a Group3 Classic trial a few months later too
Amazing I always backed him when it was financially viable... Sometimes his prices were silly.. Pleasure to watch
@michaelmaloney4517
2 жыл бұрын
@Joseph Elliott well done
@steelheart8573
Жыл бұрын
An honour to watch.
We love Kerm Din owner of Pakistan Star 💖😇❤
Breeding mate, I seen Frankel and knew he was a superstar,
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Jockey rode to instructions and rarely lost a race he should have won. Great memories.
@BulmeR2007
2 жыл бұрын
He didn't lose a race mate. You could have rode Frankel. Tom Queally has lived off it since. Arm chair ride.
We've seen the best ever
@deanos72
2 жыл бұрын
Not for me ! Dancing Brave would have been to much for him over a mile & 10f the calibre of horse Frankie beat was not in the same class as the ones Dancing Brave beat week in week out ! Zoffany wouldn’t have got within 10 lengths of Dancing Brave !
@patricksmith3432
2 жыл бұрын
@@deanos72 This debate will go on forever my friend and I'm in the Frankel camp
@deanos72
2 жыл бұрын
@@patricksmith3432 watch the the 86 Arc ! At the furlong pole , Dancing Brave isn’t in the picture & there is 7 group 1 winners in front him & he wins going way by three lengths! Just take that in ! Frankel never done anything close to that ! I’m a massive Frankle fan but he’s not in my top 3 of all time
@patricksmith3432
2 жыл бұрын
@@deanos72 Respect watch ascot queen Elizabeth 11 length win second DAYLIGHT
@deanos72
2 жыл бұрын
@@patricksmith3432 I don’t understand! ? 7 group 1 winners , the English & French derby winners & he wasn’t in the picture , but wins going away by three lengths! Show me a race where Frankel even run against opposition like that !
Only a litlle bit asking on the end, frankel wellicht done boy 😊❤ 3:02
Frankel wasn't even trying ,just the norm lol
Frankel beat everything put in front of him easily .Dancing Brave was a wonder horse but I don t think he would have beat Frankel.
@edwardcooper3948
9 ай бұрын
nothing in the history of the sport would have
@kurman4749
24 күн бұрын
That is something you will never know, will you?
@kurman4749
24 күн бұрын
@@edwardcooper3948 And how do you propose to prove your assertion?
Frankels pulling away or is he ?
2 best horses
Derek Thompson, what a guy.
Nathaniel must have been a decent horse too.
@OfficialMuffiin
4 ай бұрын
Nathaniel was great in his own right, won Group 1s and sired the powerhouse mare Enable.
Nathaniel was a good horse
Got fucking soaked that day
Hands and hells for the jockey so easy
@mrforevernever517
2 жыл бұрын
"Hells"?
Ha vinto a mani basse.
What price was he
@wayneeboiii122
2 жыл бұрын
7-4....biggest he ever was of course
@tonybaloney4195
2 жыл бұрын
@@wayneeboiii122 thanks for that
@stephenrichardson2969
2 жыл бұрын
$2.70 in decimal odds
@wayneeboiii122
2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenrichardson2969 so 7-4 like i told him a week ago then yeah haha
@stephenrichardson2969
2 жыл бұрын
@@wayneeboiii122 I realise you said that a week ago I put the odds in decimal as downunder we stopped using fraction odds a long time ago so it’s for the benefit of anyone who read your comment on the odds could relate to decimal. Anyway thanks for putting the odds he jumped at as I was interested to know. ps The 7-4 meant nothing to me but thanks to google I got the conversion.
imagine being on nathaniel youd have had your house on him
Frankel - was that one with 4 legs?
Thanks. I don’t recall connections ever asking him again to race on anything like as soft?
I loved Frankel , but that nagging doubt for the connections not to have run him over 1 mile 4 furlongs is the only stain on his copy book ! All through his pedigree would have been middle distance relatives. How can you say he's the best ever when he never ran in a Derby or an Arc over the distance ...Its the biggest cock up in racing history for me !
@kurman4749
24 күн бұрын
The benchmark of all the great champions has been winning one, or both, of the recognized championship races... the Epsom Derby or the Arc. As brilliant as Frankel and Brigadier Gerard undoubtedly were, their 2000 Guineas wins do not carry the same prestige as a Derby or Arc success.
I’ve seen weaker group 1s than that maiden
Goat
Awful commentary as usual from tommo, i'm suprised he didn't call "photo that's a photo, i'll leave that one to the judge.
frankels won or has he...um yep i think he has....only just though...or was it .....brough did frankel win?...yes thommo hands and heels...oh i thought he did...bless him...
Pity he couldn't travel
Not a lot left 😂
Thommo's commentary is classic 😂
Didn't even touch him
Not exactly an armchair ride but then again, it was his first race.
The obligatory rubbish commentary from Tommo..What a superstar Frankel was & Nathaniel was top class too, bet they couldn’t believe they got beat.😀
@crawford1083
2 жыл бұрын
He just is an embarrassment, total drivel.
@Tweeterandthemonkeyman
2 жыл бұрын
I'm just shocked that he didn't say that something was "coming with a good looking run". The man is a balloon.
@alanpage3973
Жыл бұрын
Worst racing commentator ever
the camera poor
The amount of aftertiming here is hilarious.
Pretty sure Nathaniel won a king George... Colour vision won a gold cup... A Pretty hot maiden I reckon!!
@OfficialMuffiin
2 жыл бұрын
Won a King George and sired the only 3x King George winner Enable in his first crop. Very classy maiden indeed.
@NigelBragg
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty hot maiden is almost an understatement given the careers of the first two. Nathaniel was a star, and Frankel was a generational talent.
@ppp7277
2 жыл бұрын
No shit 😂
Tommo, the drama queen of commentators.
Still think Brigadier Gerard would have beaten him with level weights
@kevinharrison5009
2 жыл бұрын
John Ward. No chance.
@darrensmith4279
2 жыл бұрын
John ward i disagree u cant say that.different eras conditions etc.lets b blessed with a brilliant horse.frankel was unbeaten b.gerard got beat.i preferred mill reef but b.g had beaten him.its pie in the sky.frankel rated better in timeform than b.g so lets say all brilliant horses
@kevinharrison5009
2 жыл бұрын
Zafonic. Now Zafonic over a mile could possibly have beaten them all. It is pure hypothesis though of course, we will never know as horses aren't machines.
@jeanlawley6483
2 жыл бұрын
Err nah
@ryanboyd517
2 жыл бұрын
Said many times on here,, comments on other horses,,eras,, Frankel was a one off freak of nature,,massive stride,,combined with a ridiculously high cruising speed,,,I'm 48yrs old and been betting 33 years ,,never saw anything even close to him,,,, just my opinion 😏
Frankel was never ever whipped on the bit every race freak of a horse 🐴
No Derby or Arc... Not the best.
@tomtheeagle1
Жыл бұрын
What nonsense!
@vincentwhelan475
Жыл бұрын
How's it nonsense ?.It's an opinion ...The best races tend to be run over slightly longer distances that's why I have this view.
I recon Zafonic would do him over a mile
@phobsdsr4326
2 жыл бұрын
If anyone could.... I just think back to Zafonic’s 2000 Guineas. So much guts and class. Runs through the line and sticks his neck out like a proper winner. It’s hard to say. You have to also appreciate how impressive Frankels Guineas looked, I know he didn’t run against anything near his quality but he could have won running backwards. His galloping style and way he ate the ground makes him almost impossible to get past over a mile. Would love to hear that with See The Stars, Kingman and Camelot. What a Guineas that would be!
@ppp7277
2 жыл бұрын
@@phobsdsr4326 ZAFONIC OPPOSITION FAR BETTER!!!!
@phobsdsr4326
2 жыл бұрын
Peter Steward I’m only 38 so was a kid at the time but have watched it back a good few times and there’s no doubting the opposition back then we’re solid in comparison to Frankels Guineas.
@ppp7277
2 жыл бұрын
@@phobsdsr4326 far better opposition
@ppp7277
2 жыл бұрын
@@BertSmithLondon 😂
otherwise tremendous debut just a real tragedy who was calling the race one of the worst in the biz the dreaded tommo ghastly , that soiled it ....who's gunna get there, that's one for the judge, in the yella colours
Derek Thomson? There is not a lot left? Fuckin trumpet.
Typical Thommo commentary ..its like hes watching another race to us
@crawford1083
2 жыл бұрын
He and that other chav Tim Peters I cannot abide.
The owners of nathaniel thot there horse was a cert that day
Outside of my own family of I could bring back two people from heaven it would bill shankly and sir henry cecil, in my opinion when those 2 great men died, there sport died eith them !
Derek Thompson... worst ever commentator!! "Who's gonna get there?" Anyway, imagine having a huge gamble on the horse Nathaniel, beating the rest of the field by 6 lengths but still losing to an unknown horse... the unknown horse Frankel turned out pretty damned good!!
worst commentator ever and hes still in a job how do these people get away with it
@swogger21
2 жыл бұрын
He's a mason
Should have tried him over a mile and a half. He was by Galileo. Safety first career. Never raced outside England.
Selkirk was a better miler- FACT
@alanchalkley565
2 жыл бұрын
So was Gordon Pirie FACT
@lagosfury5142
2 жыл бұрын
You have lost your bloody mind,smh
@lagosfury5142
2 жыл бұрын
@@alanchalkley565 nope
@alanchalkley565
2 жыл бұрын
@@lagosfury5142 dope!
Tudor Minstrel at level weights over 1mile would have had to much speed for Frankel
@carradalebear840
2 жыл бұрын
You have a single figure IQ.
@davidfletcher1116
2 жыл бұрын
And what about Arkle loool
Derek Thompson the worst commentator in racing
Name one race Frankel won outside England,name 8 horses that won the 2k Guineas in a faster time than Frankel, name the same horses he beat time and time again.
Still has to be the poorest commentary I’ve ever witnessed, Tommo stole a living out of racing 😂😂😂😂
awful commentary as usual by Derek Thompson
Thommo is truly embarrassing at commentating. His job is to say what is happening not keep asking rhetorical questions