one of the great masterpieces of postmodern music

Little House was Zappa's little house he lived in after moving out of Studio Z. The address is 1819 Bellevue Avenue in Echo Park, L. A.. You can google it and see the house as it was. For many fans this is the true Zappa. Forget all the heavy guitar and nasty lyrics that came later. The piano intro deserves repeated listening and has been covered by classical players over the years. Of great note is Sugarcane's amazing flow of solo violin over multiple time signatures, the flowing 6/8 giving way to irregular times in 7/8, 5/4, etc then returning to 6/8. The final section was live in Albert Hall, UK. All drummers were from the orginal Mothers of Invention i.e. Jimmy Carl Black, Art Tripp. This album, Uncle Meat, and Lumpy Gravy stand alone.

@SightAfterDark

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info!

I've always loved the solo piano as the intro to this piece!

One of my top 10 Zappa tracks. Love it. Love it. LOVE IT.

Only the last section was live, or else the audience were being particularly unkind to Don Harris after his epic violin solo. There's a really good live version of the opening movement, albeit with a different intro, on the album 'Live At Fillmore East' released in 1971. It also contains vocals by Howard Kaylan and Mark Volman, though there are no lyrics until it segues into Mud Shark. As for the rest of the album, when I was 16 me and a couple of friends managed to persuade the girl on the record counter at our local Woolworths to play the whole of Side Two. We then watched the shoppers' reactions, which were priceless. Next day a notice appeared at the store informing customers that requests to play anything by Frank Zappa would be refused.

@SightAfterDark

Жыл бұрын

That’s hilarious!

@rickmerlotti7720

Жыл бұрын

Ha!

@stueyapstuey4235

Жыл бұрын

@@Frunobulax74 Yup - itz complicated!

Don Sugarcane Harris on violin… no harmonica that part was violen. FZ played organ at the end. This is an.editing masterpiece. Mostly recorded in the studio. Parts were from the Hot Rats sessions. Burnt Weeny Sandwich is his most underrated lp.

Young Frank met a special, nice pony outside the little house. He was five and the pony was three. The pony's name was Sour Bean. Little Frank and the special pony went on an adventure in the woods. They met a squirrel who told Frank and Sour Bean that there was a witch who lived in the woods...

"Once upon a time", said the witch (whose name was Kiki Pop), "there was a terrible, monstrous kitten. The kitten was enormous! Bigger than a polar bear! Her name was Thunder Squeak and she was so large that she was banished to Antarctica...."

Just a masterpiece, nuff said...

What a great piece of music . That album is killer man !

Despite all of the cynicism and snark, there is an undeniable exuberance and love for life that comes through in the music.

It's a mixture of live & studio sections...the very last section was live. And it was Sugarcane Harris on violin, not Jean-Luc Ponty. The drummers were Jimmy Carl Black & Artie Tripp. The opening piano intro was Ian Underwood; the piano solo during the jam was Don Preston; the organ solo in the final section was Frank. Roy Estrada on bass. There is a live version on The Mothers - Fillmore East, June 1971...very different from this version.

@SightAfterDark

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the details FaceBat!

@danaveye3977

Жыл бұрын

The Flo and Eddie vaudeville band versions are great as well.

@NaguaLvsTonaL

6 ай бұрын

@@SightAfterDark More details ? 0:00 T.T.G. Studios, LA, CA July 18, 1969 Engineers: Jack Hunt, Cliff Goldstein Ian Underwood-piano solo 1:43 Criteria Studios, Miami, FL February 1969 & Royal Albert Hall, London, UK June 6, 1969 FZ-guitar Lowell George-guitar Don Preston-organ Buzz Gardner-trumpet Ian Underwood-woodwinds Bunk Gardner-woodwinds Roy Estrada-bass Jimmy Carl Black-drums Art Tripp-drums 4:18 Royal Albert Hall, London, UK June 6, 1969 FZ-lead guitar Art Tripp-drums 5:13 T.T.G. Studios, LA, CA c. July 28-30, 1969 Sugar Cane Harris-violin solo Don Preston-piano solo Roy Estrada-bass Jimmy Carl Black-drums 13:35 Royal Albert Hall, London, UK June 6, 1969 (with overdubs) FZ-guitar Ian Underwood-harpsichord, woodwinds Buzz Gardner-trumpet Bunk Gardner-woodwinds Art Tripp-percussion 14:54 includes Aybe Sea Whitney Studios, LA c. August 28-30, 1969 FZ-organ solo; guitar track Roy Estrada-bass Art Tripp-drums 17:12 Royal Albert Hall, London, UK June 6, 1969 FZ-voice London fan voice

@tomkitchen9457

Ай бұрын

Thank you for your obviously encyclopedic knowledge. 👍

Y'all waitin' to see how this turns out into a Zappa song is priceless. Remember: he was a composer first. We like to think we know what is coming but with Frank? First time hearing? Heh-heh. Knocked me off my ass back about '74 when I first heard this. And y'all also the first first react I've seen to this song, which is dear to my heart. It's been decades, but I think "Burnt Weeny Sandwich" was the first Zappa album, used, that I ever bought with my own money. This song and its movements written by the composer Zappa are stunning. Love and Blessings. Edit: Frank was a modern composer in how he fashioned live and studio material after the fact into a complete composition, in studio. He "composed" this piece out of other pieces he's composed/recorded already. Blessings.

@SightAfterDark

Жыл бұрын

We’re glad you’re here Leo, thanks!

Sifa, the violin solo was performed by Don "Sugarcane" Harris.

@SightAfterDark

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Kevin!

I would personally like to dedicate this comment to Ian Underwood, the unsung hero of much of Zappa's early work. Multi-instrumental virtuoso who contributed greatly to Burnt Weeny Sandwich, but also to Weasels Ripped my Flesh and Uncle Meat as well. I've always liked "Little House I Used to Live In" because of its varying textures and great solos on keys and violin. The song consists of several movements employing compound meters such as 11/8 with overlaid melodies in 6/8 and 4/4. Zappa was known for doing this. You can hear him on Weasels Ripped my Flesh describing the time signatures various instruments are playing in. The ending section of "Little House" features an organ solo played by Zappa with the band at Whitney Studios in Glendale, Ca, just a hop, skip, and a jump down the road from where I live. Peace!

@SightAfterDark

Жыл бұрын

Shout out to Ian!

I love that this song and all of the various versions. I’m really happy to hear it on this channel. Exuberant? Yup.

The violinist was Sugar Cane Harris, the piano solos by Don Preston and Ian Underwood, the Organ solo was Frank. From the same time period and also live is "The Subcutaneous Peril" from the "Finer Moments" lp. This track was supposedly meant to have been edited to a 5 or 6 minute piece that would have been on the "Fillmore East" lp when it was going to be a 2lp set. It got cut down to a single lp so was never released until 2012.

@dantean

Жыл бұрын

I'd have SWORN Frank didn't hook up with Sugar Cane until later than this, specifically the work captured first on Weasels Ripped My Flesh, then later on several releases.

@SPKdesign1

Жыл бұрын

@@dantean Straight from Discogs. I am too lazy to dig the vinyl oot and check it but usually Discogs info comes from the official release notes.... B1 Little House I Used To Live In Organ, Soloist - Frank Zappa Piano, Soloist - Don Preston, Ian Underwood Violin, Soloist - Sugar Cane Harris*

Frank, Sour Bean and their squirrel friend (whose name was Sneaky Beam) went to meet the witch. She lived in a house made of Oreo Cookies. Everyone was afraid of her. For good reason! Because she was freakin' scary! But she was actually pretty nice. She made muffins for little Frankie and Sour Bean and Sneaky Beam. She lit a fire and gave them sweet milk and told them a story...

I first heard this album in late seventies and have revisited it least once a year ever since. After about ten years, I finally realized that the title of the song that closes side one, "Aybe Sea," is phonic word play for "ABC." I am not musically intelligent enough to know if the song is structured around these three keys. After about twenty years, I noticed that the Aybe Sea theme is referenced by the guitar during the crazed organ solo towards the end of this fantastic piece. Frank's music is the gift that keeps on giving.

Always loved this piece especially the piano at beginning...so creative. Has a dreamlike quality to it like a lot of Zappa instrumentals. Some people say it's too trippy but what do they know?

eventually Frankie and the pony and rge squirrel fell asleep before the warm fire. Kiki Pop the wirch draped them all with fresh blankets. When they woke in the morning, she gave them hotcakes with cream and sent them back to the Little House where Frankie lived.

Arguably Zappa's most epic tune. Listened to this on fungi once in college and 'overwhelming' doesn't begin to describe it.

I believe little house refers to the house Frank and Gail lived in laurel Canyon. For awhile it was THE groovy place for cool people to hang out in.

lazy but quick info cut n paste from Wiki The album was essentially a 'posthumous' Mothers release having been released after Frank Zappa dissolved the band.[5] Ian Underwood's contributions are significant on this album. Like its counterpart Weasels Ripped My Flesh, this comprises tracks from the Mothers vault that were not previously released. Whereas Weasels mostly showcases the Mothers in a live setting, much of Burnt Weeny Sandwich features studio work and structured Zappa compositions, like the centerpiece of the album, "Little House I Used to Live In", which consists of several movements and employs compound meters such as 11/8 with overlaid melodies in 6/8 and 4/4.[6] The ending section of "Little House" features an organ solo played by Zappa with the band at Whitney Studios in Glendale, California.[7] The guitar solo portion of the "Theme from Burnt Weeny Sandwich" is an outtake from an unused extended version of "Lonely Little Girl" from the 1967 sessions for the We're Only in It for the Money LP. Zappa and Art Tripp later added multiple percussion overdubs for the released version (The source recordings for the percussion overdubs were issued in 2012 on the posthumous Zappa release Finer Moments under the title "Enigmas 1-5"). "Valarie" was originally intended to be released as a single coupled with "My Guitar Wants to Kill Your Mama". However, either Zappa or his distributor, Reprise Records, cancelled its release, resulting in its inclusion on the LP.[citation needed] "Igor's Boogie" is a reference to a major Zappa influence, composer Igor Stravinsky.[8] Cal Schenkel has noted that his unique cover art for Burnt Weeny Sandwich was originally commissioned for the cover of an Eric Dolphy release. The piano introduction of "Little House I Used to Live in" appears in Yvar Mikhashoff's four CD set "Yvar Mikhashoff's Panorama of American Piano Music".[9]

@rickmerlotti7720

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the edification!

My favourite Zappa track. I heard large parts of it being recorded at the Royal Albert Hall in London in 1969 (June 6th). The other parts (violin and piano) were dubbed in from the Hot Rats sessions (also 1969). At the end some young boys jumped the stage and the uniformed Albert Hall official asked them to return to their seats. It was an amazing concert.

@SightAfterDark

Ай бұрын

Sounds awesome! Thanks for sharing Philip!

Zappa was the first to play violin in rock music. He also had Sugarcane and Jean Luc Ponty play.

I may have told this story before, but the first time I played this album I was completely astonished - of course, when I put the next LP on I realised my brother had been playing singles so it had been at 45rpm.....I mean, it didn't seem odd that the amazing instrumental album was bookended by 2 Pinky & Perky style doo wop tracks on first hearing.......

Great reaction. So much to unpack here, but to be clear about the end, Zappa explained: “The Albert Hall stage is a very low stage,so it’s easy to jump onto it. And a kid about fourteen or fifteen had jumped onto the stage. And two London policemen - bobbies - came over and escorted him very nicely off the stage. And this guy in the audience is screaming “Get those bloody uniforms off the stage, man!” You know, all that stuff. And I reminded the audience that everybody in the audience was wearing a uniform.”

@philipjjacobs

Ай бұрын

it was an Albert Hall official not a policeman.

Aside from the music it is Frank's interaction/rapport with the (British sounding) audience is what seals the deal for me. "Every person in this room is wearing a uniform....." is truth. Frank is commenting on the imposed conformity of the non-conformists. I was just at fault back in the day. I misjudged a lot of people by the length of their hair or the clothes that they wore. That line gave me some much-needed self-perspective.

My prejudice is in favor of ALL "Mothers of Invention" work, rather than what's subsumed under the "Frank Zappa" umbrella subsequently, hence my love for this album which I've had since not long after its release. This is the genius Frank and not so much stuff like "Bobby Brown", "St. Alphonso's" as well as others I could name (i.e., everything after 1973). I mean, that stuff's the product of genius, as well, only THIS, to me, is the REAL stuff. Thanks for posting.

@SightAfterDark

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I believe that the end interaction with the German audience is from a riot at the concert a couple of years before. Little House evolved and by 1970 had lyrics about the riot that were preformed by the late 70/early 71 band with Flo and Eddie. This can be found on one of the Beat the Boots releases.

@SightAfterDark

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info Rowlf!

@philipjjacobs

Ай бұрын

it was the Albert Hall audience, I was there.

The violin was the great Sugarcane Harris ( RIP) . He has an even better one and a dynamite vocal on "Directly From My Heart to You" from Weasels Ripped My Flesh

FZ: Thank you, good night . . . Thank you, if you'll . . . if you sit down and be quiet, We'll make an attempt to, ah, perform Brown Shoes Don't Make It. Man In Uniform: Back on your seats, Come on, we'll help you back to your seats, come on . . . Guy In The Audience: Take that man out of here! Oh! Go away! Take that uniform off man! Take that bloody uniform before it's fuckin' too late, man! FZ: Everybody in this room is wearing a uniform, and don't kid yourself. Guy In The Audience: . . . man! FZ: You'll hurt your throat, stop it!

Great, favourite masterpiece, and nicely reacted to. Thanks! To me, Frank Zappa at his best as a composer, and the old Mothers - as a band.

It's a combo of live and studio sections. Ian Underwood on piano into in studio. The second part is live (I think), which always reminds me of Yiddish music. Don "Sugarcane" Harris is the violinist on the long third section. Could be from the Hot Rats sessions. The last section is from Royal Albert Hall in London, Eng with the old MOI lineup. I believe its Frank on the monster organ near the end.

"Everyone in this room is wearing a uniform, so don't kid yourself, BUDDY."

My most favourite zappa track ever ! There I said it ! 👍👍👍👍👌👌👌

Drums Art Tripp, there was no harmonica, the part where you played air harmonica (and air guitar) was violin played by Don "Sugarcane" Harris :-)

@SightAfterDark

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

it went on in this manner for some hours

Zappa was Rene Magritte, Salvador Dali, Pablo Picasso. Genius XX century.

Not really sure who plays the piano part near the beginning? Be it Ian Underwood or Don Preston, it's a beautiful piece. The drummers at this time were Jimmy Carl Black and Art Tripp. Art on complicated stuff Jimmy holding the beat. Very cool 18 minutes of my listening pleasure everytime I choose to listen.

@HisboiLRoi

Жыл бұрын

It is Ian Underwood.

Was listening to this over 40 years ago when I was 17. At the time I had over 40 Zappa albums. Over 50 including bootlegs. I wonder what my parents were thinking at the time when they would hear me blasting Zappa. A few years back when my father was almost 90 I sent him some KZread videos of Zappa’s Yellow Shark and said this is the kind of stuff I was listening to all those years ago.

@kevinthornton4495

Жыл бұрын

Ruth plays percussion not strings wasn't in the band yet , Sugarcane Harris on violin or viola not sure original key board player Don Preston play a real portable Pipe organ that Frank bought you can hear it on hot rats Peaches and Regalia and Mr Green jeans, Sugarcane Harris to. What you heard was the THEE ORIGINAL MOTHERS OF INVENTION "BURNT WINNIE SANDWICH" Frank couldn't cook . hotdog on a fork over a stove burner LOL The houe might have been the" LOG CABIN" in Laurel Canyon Hollywood

@SightAfterDark

Жыл бұрын

When we name who’s playing, we’re joking- playing mix up with the band. When we ask who’s playing we truly don’t know. Thanks for the real info Kevin!

@randygray8921

Жыл бұрын

My mom loved jazz and all , she bought me my first Chicago, BS&tears and Dylan so when I was 15 or so I played Hot Rats for her and was so happy when she said she loved it. . Lol

Great! Only ever heard a version on 'Live at the filmore east' album prior

Don (Sugar Cane Harris) and Dewey -- Soul Motion

Sugar Cane Harris was the violinist.

The bit from 15 minutes kinda sounds like it all did at 45 on that first hearing of mine

I always liked sugarcane harris over ponty, I think the story was Frank got him out of the local drunk tank and recorded him

Also worth checking out is the Berlin Live 1978 (it's a bootleg) that version is great and is where the Sheik Yerbouti guitar solo comes from. Of course this original is the best, so lovely and lush, great album start to finish.

@SightAfterDark

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip!

Everybody else already filled in the background info on this, so I'll just say Arf arf! and Moo-Ahhhhh. Love watching you two do your thing.

@Royale_with_Cheeze

Жыл бұрын

@Rumpledforeskin Moo-Ahhhhhhh

@Royale_with_Cheeze

Жыл бұрын

@@Frunobulax74 Frumunder?

@Royale_with_Cheeze

Жыл бұрын

@Rochefort Never get fromundu sucked in France

@Royale_with_Cheeze

Жыл бұрын

@Reeking Buns of Angel Oh, smell your harmonica Go on smell it, son Uh-huh... Hold your nose!

@Royale_with_Cheeze

Жыл бұрын

@Randy You're getting kinda randy there, Bud.

The End

The opening piano section is a cousin/homage to Berg's Piano Sonata op.1. Check out the version played by Peter Hill👍🏻p.s. love the sweater👌🏻

@SightAfterDark

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@trashandcheese3636

Ай бұрын

@@SightAfterDark Did Frank make a habit of "close rewrites" - there's the Uncle Meat/Messaien connection, and now this?!

You will love aybe sea. By Frank

Players On This Song 0:00 Ian Underwood piano solo 1:43 FZ guitar Lowell George guitar Don Preston organ Buzz Gardner trumpet Ian Underwood woodwinds Bunk Gardner woodwinds Roy Estrada bass Jimmy Carl Black drums Art Tripp drums 4:18 FZ lead guitar Art Tripp drums 5:13 Don "Sugarcane" Harris violin solo Don Preston piano solo Roy Estrada bass Jimmy Carl Black drums 13:35 FZ guitar Ian Underwood harpsichord, woodwinds Buzz Gardner trumpet Bunk Gardner woodwinds Art Tripp percussion 14:54 includes Aybe Sea FZ organ solo; guitar track Roy Estrada bass Art Tripp drums 17:12 Royal Albert Hall, London June 6, 1969 FZ voice

@SightAfterDark

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Tom!

♥♥♥

What would be the purpose of life without Frank's music?

His name is Don "Sugercane" Harris.

One of Franks greatest contribution to contemporary music, always love the Sandwish album, comes close to the fusion masterpiece Hot Rats. And yes, it's sugar cane who brings much live to this one. But this is so great or am I wrong? And do u hear coltrane here also?

@SightAfterDark

Жыл бұрын

Style wise, yes, a bit😎

@michaosanna

Жыл бұрын

@@SightAfterDark yes, a (little) bit! 🤔

The house that Tom Mix built. Or lived in at any rate

That was no harmonica, that was a volin with a wa wa pedal

Dan this was not a live recording. Various parts were recorded at T.T.G. Studios, LA, CA July 28-30, 1969, Royal Albert Hall, London, UK June 6, 1969 (with overdubs), and Whitney Studios, LA August 28-30, 1969. The audience ending that gave you the impression that it was a completely live recording was actually recorded at the Albert Hall, London, UK June 6, 1969

@SightAfterDark

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info Kevin!

@Frunobulax74

Жыл бұрын

@Kevin Greenwood - Actually, this piece is a mixture of live and studio that goes back and forth throughout the song. Here is the breakdown: 0:00 T.T.G. Studios, LA, CA July 18, 1969 Engineers: Jack Hunt, Cliff Goldstein Ian Underwood-piano solo 1:43 Criteria Studios, Miami, FL February 1969 & Royal Albert Hall, London, UK June 6, 1969 FZ-guitar Lowell George-guitar Don Preston-organ Buzz Gardner-trumpet Ian Underwood-woodwinds Bunk Gardner-woodwinds Roy Estrada-bass Jimmy Carl Black-drums Art Tripp-drums 4:18 Royal Albert Hall, London, UK June 6, 1969 FZ-lead guitar Art Tripp-drums 5:13 T.T.G. Studios, LA, CA c. July 28-30, 1969 Sugar Cane Harris-violin solo Don Preston-piano solo Roy Estrada-bass Jimmy Carl Black-drums 13:35 Royal Albert Hall, London, UK June 6, 1969 (with overdubs) FZ-guitar Ian Underwood-harpsichord, woodwinds Buzz Gardner-trumpet Bunk Gardner-woodwinds Art Tripp-percussion 14:54 includes Aybe Sea Whitney Studios, LA c. August 28-30, 1969 FZ-organ solo; guitar track Roy Estrada-bass Art Tripp-drums 17:12 Royal Albert Hall, London, UK June 6, 1969 FZ-voice London fan voice

Live...

Could someone tell me what the guy in the audience said in the end that made Frank so angry? I haven’t figured that out in decades

@mikedemike5393

Жыл бұрын

Some hippy dude was upset that a serviceman in a uniform was there and started to seek a safe space.

@thomasvieth578

Жыл бұрын

What did the guy actually say that upset Frank?

@Frunobulax74

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasvieth578 - I don't think Frank was upset. He was calmly trying to get the guy to shut up.

@mikedemike5393

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasvieth578 nothiing really...the ushers were in uniform were trying to re-seat every body and some hip guy said ,,theyre wearing uniforms...

You guys need to hear some Sleepy Time Gorilla Museum. It'll blow your hair back.

@SightAfterDark

Жыл бұрын

Suggest it on our patreon, we’d love to hear it! www.patreon.com/sightafterdark

Nope! Not JLP but don sugarcane harris on violin as on Willie The Pimp

@SightAfterDark

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the info Chris!

track doesn't have "The" in the title....

@Frunobulax74

Жыл бұрын

@Chris Bywater- Yes, the song name starts with the word "The." I checked my vinyl and CD copies, and it is The Little House...

@trashandcheese3636

Ай бұрын

@@Frunobulax74 But apparently only on this album does it have a definitive article

It wasn't live...Zappa was amazing live...but...that wasn't live.. That... was Frank editing about 10 different things together to make up one peice of sound sculpture. It doesn't diminish it's power as a musical composition. It is one of my favorite Zappa opus'sss. Having said that... the beginning is studio piano... the THEME is most likely actually...live... the guitar solo is almost for sure live... the Violin solo is from the HOT RATS sessions. Those sessions were happening AS he was in the process of releasing this album which is music from a group that was dead by the time you heard it. That part after the reprise of the violin... the part with the harpsichord and then wah wah guitar and wind instruments... don't know when it's from, but it's studio, and it is possibly one of the best moments of the Mothers on one of their records. The Zappa organ solo at the end is definitely studio... there's about 5 or 6 Zappa's going at the same time on guitar and organ so.... And then... He tacked on that audience ending to fuck with everybody...lol.

@SightAfterDark

Жыл бұрын

Gotta love Frank! Thanks for sharing Chris!

@wowwhywow

Жыл бұрын

@@Frunobulax74 yeah I figured it was more or lerss like that. I didn't feel like looking up the specifics. My favorite part is 13.35 to 14. 54.

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@SightAfterDark

Жыл бұрын

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Again, singing the lyrics along to the instrumental. So many of the phrases here were used again all over the place. Many on the Fillmore East '71 (which I do not recommend for the channel) EXCEPT FOR the Turtles' Happy Together.

@RichieG

Жыл бұрын

Oh, also from the Fillmore East June '71 album (which, again, I do not recommend for the channel) in addition to the Turtles' Happy Together, I'd love for you to hear Don Preston's Lonesome Electric Turkey!

Frank chamber orchestra ... with a doowop number as track one and Valerie is the last track also doowop... Burnt Weenie Sandwich is not easy listening .... but no Frank is Thanks for digging this

One of his best pieces, in parts annoying, at others just perfect

my childhood - kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZYp6y7pmp5SycsY.html

Little House I Used to Live In. No "The". The Zappa massive are on to you lot.

@Frunobulax74

Жыл бұрын

@ZappaFan - Actually, they are correct. The name of the song is The Little House I Used to Live In. Check the Burnt Weeny Sandwich album.

@zappafan3473

Жыл бұрын

@@Frunobulax74 I don't have the vinyl handy, but wikipedia has it without the "The". Frankly I don't really care, I was just going by memory, and the fine folks at SaD updated the post without it also, so I'm guessing they checked.

@Frunobulax74

Жыл бұрын

@@zappafan3473- I doubled checked my LP and CD copies and the title includes the word "THE"

A mixture of vamps strung together. Think Frank didn't know exactly what he wanted to do so he made a collage of styles to dig into deeper at a later date, when he was more mature musically. Not bad really but very very dated. He'd just about got out of the swamp here, let's say mud flapper, at this stage of his musical development. Sure the dinosaurs that only love Frank's early stuff will be salivating in their caves to this one. 🙂. Of all the songs requested around 20 minutes or longer, I reckon over 90% are Zappa. Many artists do loads of songs this long but believe their fans aren't as greedy as some on here. This is another album we've heard way over half of but will no doubt will be requested on an album poll.

@chazblitz

Жыл бұрын

Mud Flapper🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!

@paulfenwick8767

Жыл бұрын

@@chazblitz I'm right though aren't I ? lol

@chazblitz

Жыл бұрын

@@paulfenwick8767 Certainly not laughing at cha Paul. Laughing with you as you're right on the money 🤣!

@paulfenwick8767

Жыл бұрын

@@chazblitz I like it in respect of that it was a building block to better things. Troglodytes who consider this great composition or a masterpiece don't know the difference between a mix of ordinary late 60's vamps mashed together and real composition. For me, Hot Rats was the first sign of Zappa as a great composer and not just a underground musician making random noises (some worked but was very hit and miss).

@chazblitz

Жыл бұрын

@@paulfenwick8767Agree with Hot Rats. Love that whole album but The Gumbo Variations is my favorite. Some people point back to Lumpy Gravy and try to pass it off as a masterpiece but I find it to be unlistenable. It took him getting rid of the original Mothers and as we were discussing, the accident in England to get him on the path to being a great composer. The addition of world class musicians that could actually read the music he wrote and had the chops to bring it to life.