If it doesn't sell, the price is too high. Simple.

@DrCruel

4 жыл бұрын

Bingo.

@68air

4 жыл бұрын

@@DrCruel Too close to Obozo

@moresalesoryourmoneyback

4 жыл бұрын

@The Dali Llama exactly

@Maoud2

4 жыл бұрын

Future Gravy, you’re onto something here!

@bighands69

4 жыл бұрын

+Furture Gravy It might be true that it is not selling because it is too high in price or that the right type of buyer is not present in the market. The video was from 2013 when it was dark economic days right at the peak of the Obama over regulation that was destroying the market.

Should be "Owners asking too much for Frank Lloyd Houses"

@hmg9194

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah you’re dumb, slightly above average for the area

@cerisem7727

4 жыл бұрын

Tell me about it, a lot of these houses aren't even worth the price for what they're asking. Only his most famous works should get that treatment, like the Guggenheim Museum and Fallingwater.

@minispinakins2034

4 жыл бұрын

@MJ It is the free market and the houses are overpriced just like your over-priced self-worth.

@minispinakins2034

4 жыл бұрын

@MJ Thomas Sowell and Milton Friedman study and learn. Stupid can be fixed if you are willing to learn.

@barryallenporter8127

4 жыл бұрын

Property value for an area is irrelevant if people aren’t willing to pay it

Historic homes come with a ton of government regulations on what you can and can't do, such as using period specific materials for repairs. If you think an HOA is bad, own a historic home.

@yruhatin100

4 жыл бұрын

He should set it on fire and collect the insurance. Of course, I would never do that.

@idontwantone132

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure it's designated as a historic home

@bighands69

4 жыл бұрын

That's why America is not as wealthy as it used to be. Far too many government regulations making the market less efficient. Building a new house is now getting very difficult. I built mine in the 1990s and if I did that again I could not build the same type of house due to the amount of regulations not at a good price anyway.

@bighands69

4 жыл бұрын

@Saffron Sinclair If you tried to build that house now it would be a lot tougher.

@kidzanarkand

4 жыл бұрын

That was my response to this too. Why would I want to own a house that everyone has an opinion on what I can do to it when it's MY property?!

People don't want the hassle of dealing with a historical society or anyone else. The whole point of ownership is the freedom to do what you want (within reason). That's just my initial thought

@darianslame

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. I live in a historic area and they complain about everything, even down to using LED streetlights that are brighter and more efficient because the old kooks whine that there used to be old lights. God forbid you want to modernize the exterior with new siding or lighting.

@clickreportifyouareacrybab5942

4 жыл бұрын

@@darianslame Lol "old kooks".

@ambergris5705

4 жыл бұрын

This is a very American way of thinking. In Europe, we have countless historical buildings, and we can't do what we want with them. Obviously, their restoration costs more, but they are still a big part of the market. It's just a matter of POV, and obviously of decent pricing.

@clickreportifyouareacrybab5942

4 жыл бұрын

@@ambergris5705 At the end of the day the market will determine the outcome. If no one wants to pay 1M for a home and then be told in detail how they have to make repairs, I don't blame them. On the same token, If someone wants to pay 1M and follow all those rules, good for them as well. But you are right. Americans don't like to be told what to do.

@ambergris5705

4 жыл бұрын

@rabid GOLEM Value is not the question. It's more "does it have historic significance". Although I can understand that as an American, you don't have many historical places around, or at least much less than in Europe, hence the difference in perspective. Europe, that by the way is far greater than just the United Kingdom, and for most of it, neither ruled nor possessed by a queen. Although the Queen of England has a few possessions outside of the UK, and I have no doubt Margrethe of Denmark has her fair share of properties too.

"Lots of natural light" *Shows darkest room in the house*

@insolentish4529

4 жыл бұрын

I see you and dozens of people don't understand exposure

@ericfannin8227

4 жыл бұрын

@@insolentish4529 username checks out

@askan8037

4 жыл бұрын

JJ PopNFresh i think they mean natural light is the only one that illuminates the place

@Fyrtenheimer

4 жыл бұрын

@@angelobianchi8474 thank goddd someone gets it

@jimmyle8553

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you to all these other comments! This comment should not have as many likes as it does.

I don’t care who designed the house, when you ask too much the house sits on the market. That’s what’s going on here.

@ericfannin8227

4 жыл бұрын

@MJ "tract" home. shhhhh, your ignorance is showing

@bighands69

4 жыл бұрын

@MJ If the house is too expensive people are not going to buy especially those that do not know or care about its history or meaning. I think the house is worth every penny from what I have seen in the video but lets be honest 99% of people will not agree.

There's one simple reason why you don't want one of these and it doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the architecture or the quality of the construction or the livability. It's the historical designation. In Massachusetts, where I live, historical designation is the kiss of death. Once you get designated, you can't do what you want with it anymore. You can't modernize, you often have to use expensive old methods and materials even just to do maintenance and repairs. White elephant; sounds wonderful and exotic but later you realize it's a millstone around your neck and you can't get out of it for what you paid so you're married for life to this thing that you come to resent.

@Ntyler01mil

4 жыл бұрын

It depends on the level of designation, but it does create challenges. I live in a historic district. I can do whatever I want to the interior, but I need permission from the Historic District Commission to make any changes to the outside, like new windows, landscaping, colors, etc. Despite the restrictions, it's nice to be in a historic district because you have greater confidence that your area will be properly maintained and retain its character. They can't tear down a nice house for cheap new construction or a liquor store or something like that. If your house is a national historic landmark (as some of these are), then you have to follow guidelines on the interior as well as the exterior. You have to seek permission from the State Historic Preservation Office.

@765respect

4 жыл бұрын

What you say is the reason the UK and all of Europe has these beautiful unique homes from 100 yr back. I saw interesting lived in 500 yr old homes. My huge cottage was made in the early 1700's. Made to last with all sorts of purpose built unique features.

@m.woodsrobinson9244

4 жыл бұрын

Very true, especially if you live in places like Charleston, Savannah, or the WORST, Natchez, Mississippi! The prettier and more historic, the less you can do to it.

@iamnobody3793

4 жыл бұрын

I kinda see the point with that. If you have someone that does cheap repairs to a house like that than it just takes away from it.

@m.woodsrobinson9244

4 жыл бұрын

@@iamnobody3793 Oh absolutely, and that has certainly happened, but then you also have the opposite problem. In many places, you can't even make historic houses environmentally friendly or energy efficient because it can "ruin the historical integrity" of the house. Not many people, even those who are well off, want to potentially pay the utility bill in a 5000 square foot house with 15 foot ceilings and no way to put in HVAC or modern insulation. There has to be some sort of common ground reached between the property owners and historic preservationists. It doesn't have to be an either or situation.

This is like a collector's car: you can't sell it in the classified ads. You have to sell it to the right buyer who isn't simply out to buy just a house.

@NoGoodHandlesComingToMind

3 жыл бұрын

That's an excellent point. They can't go with an off-the-shelf broker. They need a specialized expert with a client base qualified not only by their financial capability but also the specific lifestyle interests needed to take on stewardship of historically significant architectural pieces. They should probably reach out to major architecture schools, e.g; Yale School of Architecture, and see if they can suggest brokers with more relevant networks.

@Chinoiserie9839

2 жыл бұрын

Your comment is the only reasonable one in this video. If none of the others sees worth to these properties, then introduced them to the right clients.

All house prices are over inflated. Salaries have not NEARLY kept up with house prices. And muckity mucks wonder why people, especially young people, aren't buying homes.

@steve19745

4 жыл бұрын

Lesley Bacon these older people lived in a world where you could buy one of these homes for 120k live in it your life then expect wages to keep up or exceed expectations snd supply them with a secure retirement once they decided to sell

@calibella009

4 жыл бұрын

Steve B true and it was a time where you didn’t really need to go to college to get a good paying respectable job.

@emailercc3565

4 жыл бұрын

@@steve19745 that house didint even cost that to build, adjusting for inflation in that time you could hire essentially illegal labor all day and not pay almost any permit or city fees, thats why most boomers had low cost homes, try building a home today

@carlcushmanhybels8159

4 жыл бұрын

@@steve19745 Yes. My parents, aunt and uncles were able to do that. {WWII Gen The Postwar American Boom and rise in property values just sitting there.}

@carlcushmanhybels8159

4 жыл бұрын

@@emailercc3565 The low-cost homes with rising property values and salaries was before Boomers. It was WWII Gen and the Quiet Gen (Korean War/Beat Gen.). My parents and aunt and uncles were able to buy small but inexpensive homes and just sit on them: Property values went up and up... They could and did sell to trade up or sell later & have a comfy retirement --with a pension too. That was WWII Gen. Some of the oldest Boomers were able to. But Boomers was/is a long time period. The 'younger' Boomers and Boom-X transitioners ---those easy benefits are long gone.

They are very modern looking for 1900 houses. They appear more mid century modern. They must have been very shocking at the time that they were built.

@michaelcelani8325

4 жыл бұрын

Rob Reynolds..FLW did learn much from Louis Sullivan about aesthetics which were mostly Art Neauvau based concepts he quickly discarded them for his next influence, Japanese ideas from traveling there. Mixing those with the arts and crafts movement he created his Prarie House designs like the Robie House in Chicago, as an example. Then Mayan ideas with the L.A. period houses. Part of the fun of studying Wright for me was discovering his humanity underneath his superstar design ability. By that I mean his loudly denying any outside influence! One rarely mentioned fact about Sullivan was that he sought out Frank Furness in Philadelphia to work and study with him. When FLW was asked how did he design all these different structures he said " I just shake them out of my sleeve !" Cheers !

@gilbertpinfold

4 жыл бұрын

@A Deutsch They are custom homes by a world class architect in very exclusive neighborhoods, with beautiful and unique features. If I had a couple spare millions, I can't think of a better use for them........Alas, I don't.

@sashachitownvillegas6850

3 жыл бұрын

evelyn waugh they are masterpieces

@pyootchnich

3 жыл бұрын

Very perceptive observation

they think they are worth much more than they are in reality.

@jamie49868

4 жыл бұрын

You're right. The CHI market is high. Comp them out and you're not high by much. Those houses are works of art. If you have ever toured one, you know that's true. Everything is crafted and the highest quality, which unfortunately raises the cost of restoring anything. Those people who wouldn't pay for a Wright are the same ones who wouldn't pay for a Picasso...not because they don't know the value, although that may be true of the Wright, but because they can't. Million dollars homes any where are hard to sell, maybe these guys should stick to the prefab slab homes for little to nothing.

@mrtoothless

4 жыл бұрын

Aw, look at the 2 pretentious turds above me trying the exclusivity nonsense. Weak and sad.

@bighands69

4 жыл бұрын

The houses are worth the money the problem is that people are scared to buy them. Even if they were half the price people would still be scared to buy them. The amount of regulations that surround these houses is insane to say the least. Once the market monster has been created it is very difficult to change politically because it means somebody loses out and votes are lost.

@bighands69

4 жыл бұрын

@rabid GOLEM "Its the headache that comes along with Frank's houses" Hence they are scared to buy the house.

If Frank Lloyd Wright is a selling point for these houses, why isn't anyone buying them?

@comingoutofhibernation2122

4 жыл бұрын

@HugeWolf1 - The owners priced them too high.

@tomsawyer7429

4 жыл бұрын

Ah that explains why people with at least two mil in the bank are snatching these up- Oh wait a minute. Don’t be a snob and accuse people of ignorance- says more about you when you make comments like that.

Title should be: "Owner trying to make a killing can't sell their house."

@Maoud2

4 жыл бұрын

MJ, another generation X upper middle class democratic socialist disconnected from the reality that there’s 3 whole generations of “poor” people waiting for you to realize we’ve hit an iceberg and have been sinking since the 70’s.

@jamie49868

4 жыл бұрын

In reality the Chicago market is one of the highest in the country. Those prices aren't to bad if you look at comps. Then consider that you are getting a piece of art you can live in. Sure, it's not for everybody, but than what is?

@FrameDrumAndFlute

4 жыл бұрын

@@Maoud2 I think you're missing a couple of adjectives

@jamie49868

4 жыл бұрын

@rabid GOLEM Are you saying Chicago isn't one of the highest markets in the country? Are you saying that the house isn't rare and a piece of art? What exactly is wrong with my assessment? Are you saying that similar size homes by Frank Lloyd Wright in the Chicago area aren't priced, nor valued in that range? It is "ypu" sic. who look ridiculous and petty. Can it be had for less than the asking price? Sure, but what home can't? If you have ever purchase and/or sold a home, the asking price it the beginning price for negotiations. Sometimes that price gets bid up, sometimes it's bid down, but it's starting price. You are just so smart, you just probably forgot that...right?

There are houses that occasionally leak and then there are leaky houses. Some FLW houses were constructed with very experimental techniques that were not sound. These early ones are probably pretty sound. He got more experimental the more his reputation grew. The main thing is that these houses were built before modern ideas of family living that revolve around the kitchen. The layouts are more formal than we are used to today. Most of them also have inadequate storage. And, of course, you basically have to fall in love with the house "as is" because you can't change very much, and it costs a fortune to maintain them.

@steve19745

4 жыл бұрын

dlwatib he used way too much thin glass and skylights that leak a lot ! I was interested in buying one of his houses he designed in florida still am if the price goes down they want wayyy too much for what these are !

@ohmyblindman

4 жыл бұрын

The chairman of J&J kept a bucket on his desk at all times, talk about a leaker?

@carpediem6568

4 жыл бұрын

@@ohmyblindman That's pitiful for what they paid for it.

@carpediem6568

4 жыл бұрын

As time progressed Wright's quality of work should have improved.

@RAREFORMDESIGNS

4 жыл бұрын

@@steve19745 More fake news about FLW.......The one and only private residence he designed in Florida was never for sale. People think every house that looks different is a Frank Lloyd Wright house.

Beautiful but not always practical, frequently dark with small kitchens, bathrooms and bedrooms, sometimes high maintenance

@MrBeaux

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, as brilliant as FLW was, he pretty much prioritized aesthetics over everything else.

@danstrayer111

4 жыл бұрын

sounds like my Mexican girlfriend

@FLOUNDERMILKSHAKE

4 жыл бұрын

@@danstrayer111 Doesn't entirely work. But thumbs up anyway.

@kathryncarter6143

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely & certain aspects are not beautiful any more. While there are some wonderful qualities; I've never cared for all those harsh blunt straight lines. I really don't see that aspect coming much from nature.

@carlcushmanhybels8159

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrBeaux From another TV program, I learned leaks are common. With those cantilevered horizontals and right angles.

I grew up near one of his more 'radically" designed, yet very practical homes. I've been a lifelong fan of his architecture. I've always dreamed of owning a Wright home, but the price tag....yikes. They are just beautiful, timeless homes!

@melodyrose2170

4 жыл бұрын

StormLaker1975 same here

@camtwan1

4 жыл бұрын

I don’t know about “timeless”

@desireandfire

Жыл бұрын

I mean its over 100 years old and it's still gorgeous and doesn't seem as outdated as many other old homes.

If only I could afford this. I would LOVE these houses.

For $5 Million this house is all yours! Except you cant do anything you want with it, because people who dont own it will threaten your livelihood.

@bighands69

4 жыл бұрын

That is the modern over regulated market place that favors certain chosen businesses that are politically active.

The key challenge in selling the house is probably the fact that it's in Illinoi$

@comingoutofhibernation2122

4 жыл бұрын

Good point. The state is in a thoroughly well-deserved, self-inflicted decline.

@jamie49868

4 жыл бұрын

Bingo! What is the tax bill?

@comingoutofhibernation2122

4 жыл бұрын

@@JM-zo8lz Cronyism in hiring, corruption both public and private so severe that Chicago, itself looks more like something out of a dystopian SciFi novel than something that should be a real city. The Illinois of today is a place that young people try to get a job outside of, just to escape and have what their home would refuse to give them, unless they did know the right people and didn't come from the "wrong" backgrounds - a fair chance to begin their lives. Having gotten out of it, they notice how much less violent the outside world is, how less crazy and they feel no desire to ever go back.

@Lixeh

4 жыл бұрын

@@comingoutofhibernation2122 Umm... Chicago looking like something out of distopian scifi novel? Do you believe all that "Chiraq" stuff too? I've lived in the city for almost 6 years now and I never want to go anywhere else, it's the most beautiful and amazing place I've ever been to. That said, the government of Illinois/Chicago is definitely not great.

@ezioaugustus2621

3 жыл бұрын

And south side Chicago.

If he had designed a trailer, I might have been able to afford one.

@brianlin5636

4 жыл бұрын

flynomo *Gets priced at half a million

@mikehenson819

3 жыл бұрын

Its very telling that you said that. In fact, if you study the floor plans of his first Usonians; one comes to realize that modern mobil homes ( single wides) are really quite similar!

@ImpressionismFTW

2 жыл бұрын

Usonians were designed to be affordable, its people who don't understand this that price them for insane collectors rather than actual middle-class homeowners.

Wow, over a million dollars for a house that needs major repairs with expensive, hard-to-obtain materials and strict rules about how the work needs to be done that will drive the costs up even further. Well, gee, sign me up for that, guys.

@adaharrisonn

4 жыл бұрын

And they didn't choose to do any of it themselves to actually justify the cost of this thing, they're just hocking it off onto the next person. Lol

As Usual, the current Real Estate Market will determine the selling price, not the Sellers.

The architecture of his houses us beautiful, and the stained glass windows are stunningly beautiful. But after touring a couple, I have no desire to live in one. The front rooms gathering rooms, etc. are beautiful and open. But bedrooms, bathrooms , and hallways are small, dark, and cramped. The windows are tiny if you're not in one of the show rooms, and both houses felt uncomfortable. He also designed a lot of the furniture for his houses, and again, it looks beautiful but most likely us very uncomfortable.

@giordanobruno1333

4 жыл бұрын

Ikree R Marin County civic center and government building has leaked since day one. Heating and ac systems are design failures. His design for the Marin County jail is a hole in the ground with a skylight.

@geodeaholicm4889

4 жыл бұрын

wrong about the window & room sizes, i grew up in a chicago prairie style house designed & built by FLW. only 1 of 4 bedrooms could be called small, & all had windows 3+ feet high & nearly as wide as both external walls. it's the most comfortable floor plan i've ever seen. can't say about his original furniture, we never had any.

So it's expensive, with high maintenance and can't be remodeled to the potential owner's taste. What part of this is a selling point?

It would be a Frank Lloyd Wrong house if it was another color.

@cw5451

4 жыл бұрын

Inger Falch-Jacobsen Not in the way that Wright houses are uniquely regarded by Wright fans and devotees. Wright went into painstaking detail when designing a home. He went so far as to design the house to fit with the existing landscape and terrain. He angled and windowed the design to maximize outside light during certain times of the day. And he also chose their colors (interior and exterior) and created a name for the home. He would even design the interior furniture. No two Wright houses are the same. Each home is an entire work of art that is designed to be viewed in its entirety as originally designed. So changing the exterior color would almost corrupt the fact that it was a Wright house.

@rustinstardust2094

4 жыл бұрын

@@cw5451 Um, yeah. So it *would* be a Frank Lloyd Wrong house.

@cw5451

4 жыл бұрын

Rustin Stardust 😆

@cw5451

4 жыл бұрын

AnarchoRepublican I hope you are being sarcastic. Some sarcasm is not too obvious, so it’s good to add /s at the end of your comment.

They definitely still make Roman brick (which refers to the dimensions, not the color). You can buy it at any brickyard. However, like any brick, just because they still make the dimension doesn't mean that they still make that color or texture, which comes from the particular clay that was used and how it was molded and fired. Wire-cut brick leaves a certain texture, for instance. Some bricks are fired to create color variations, like dark clinker bricks. You will be hard-pressed to match ANY old brick perfectly, not just the brick Frank Lloyd Wright used.

@Ntyler01mil

4 жыл бұрын

I would also add that a good mason can simply dismantle and reassemble old brick. The brick doesn't typically break down, the mortar does. I've had this done on my house, and needed only a small number of new bricks to mix in with the old. If you look really closely, you can pick out the new bricks, as they aren't a perfect match. However, it's not noticeable unless you examine the wall closely.

@MisterJeffy

Жыл бұрын

@@Ntyler01mil Even bricks with eroded or discolored surfaces can be removed, cleansed, and reinstalled with the damage surace on the back side.

I’ve noticed an uptick in stories about expensive homes that can’t find a buyer over the last couple years. Its a sign of the shrinking middle class.

It's only difficult to sell because the owner was suckered in to believe that it was worth tons of money, but as time goes on fewer and fewer people are that dumb.

I’ve visited Falling Water in Pennsylvania and a friend’s home in Pittsburgh that is a Frank Lloyd Wright home. They are beautiful. But because of the wide open floor plans, I think they may be hard to heat.

The question at the beginning of the video about changing the first home from brown was humorous. A Frank Lloyd home would likely have a historical designation which has tax savings however the caveat is that it remain original (usually this only pertains to the exterior) and rules are followed to protect the historic value.

If I had the money, I'd like any of these.

I love the design of these houses. The local community college where I grew up was designed by his understudy and is a stunning piece of architecture.

I worked on a Wright house in Santa Cruz. Not an easy task. The owners had been trying to well it for several years, but there had been a family murdered in it and that was apparently a sticking point. Then the 2008 real-estate bubble happened. I don't think they got a buyer.

Interesting to watch this in the middle of a pandemic. It's very possible, that in a few weeks, people will be glad to have a roof - any roof over their heads, lucky to have a job and grateful for food on the table instead of lamenting that they can't get full price on an historic house. Times change quickly.

@AZ-kr6ff

4 жыл бұрын

Shove it up your aya.

@Five0h_Fin

4 жыл бұрын

FLOUNDERMILKSHAKE The video was published 6 YEARS AGO

@FLOUNDERMILKSHAKE

4 жыл бұрын

@@Five0h_Fin But it was still relevant 2 months ago. Now, not so much.

@intrepidfox37

4 жыл бұрын

Seeing as this was done in 2013, their home may have sold by now🤷🏾‍♂️

The guy down the street from me was a skilled carpenter and he redid everything in his house to suit HIS tastes. He redid everything possible in wood with intricate carving, including doors, the floors, ceilings, doorways, built in seating and on and on. He even built an English Tudor rear onto the house. He loved it but nobody else wanted it like it was and it would cost a fortune to redo it. So he was stuck with it until he died.

I would love to live in one of his houses. this house. Can't afford it, of course. LOVE LOVE LOVE his designs. The one I'm crazy about is the one with the water running thru it.

@joannesmith2484

4 жыл бұрын

Fallingwater

@wholesome122

4 жыл бұрын

That’s one of the few noteworthy ones.

300k-1m in renovations. That’s some expertise you’re bringing to the table there Louise

@jflow08

4 жыл бұрын

I was like that's some spread too, lol.

If a painting is done by van Gogh is it worth more? When something is created from a mind so creative and unique, it is worth more. I live in a prairie style home and have been in construction for over 20 years and it is hard to explain living in these style of homes. Beyond open floor concepts, your mind is challenged to think outside the box. The way these homes sit, taking advantage of light and feel, and these homes sit in your mind as to not confine you within a home, but of feeling like you exist in a comfortable shelter with the mind being inside and outside at the same time!

@robertnrobretual2749

6 жыл бұрын

I agree. But I think homeowners need to understand that if the demand isn't there, then they need to provide more of an incentive for buyers. If they can wait a decade to sell it, I'm sure someone will pay a "fair" price. But if no one is buying and you're trying to move, it means the market simply isn't interested in that home at that price point.

@michaelgarcia2024

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree. I've seen homes just rotting away only to be demolished because nobody wanted to change a thing. The owners die and people forget. Make updated changes but save the plans. It's not about the material but the design, that must never be forgotten.

@jessem8928

4 жыл бұрын

Paintings don't have annual property taxes.

My sister lived in one that once owned by a prominent lawyer. It became dilapidated and they were restoring it back to its original glory. Unfortunately, it was a land contract sale and the person they were making payments to sold it out from under them. They didn't have the cash for a legal battle and the city handled the dispute by tearing it down and paving it over.

Pretty soon houses will be selling for 1 billion dollars, and you’ll have to hold you pinky to the corner of our mouth when you utter the price.

@AvecPoesie

4 жыл бұрын

I needed that laugh! The housing market can certainly feel that way.

The problem is that these homes are being priced "Wright", not right.

@DavidJGillCA

8 жыл бұрын

In many cases, Wright homes in out of the way places (not the East or West coasts for example) aren't priced much differently than a run of the mill sort of house. But they do represent a much larger financial commitment, among other things.

“Do you have to keeps it brownish?” 😂

@DCFunBud

4 жыл бұрын

Dumbest question ever. Why did they assign a clueless reporter?

@pelicancovebeach2873

4 жыл бұрын

It’s not a bad question. First thing some people want to do to personalize their homes is to paint it. The buildings in our historical town must be certain colors. It’s in the Caribbean where you see lots of different painted houses, but the houses in historical district have to conform to a certain palette.

@c.2538

4 жыл бұрын

Pelican Cove Beach I don’t think so either. I love mid century modern design but not every single aspect of it. I could do without the dark colors & paneling for sure.

I have visited some of his homes and I would not want any of them. There is one just a mile from where I live.

@jong9379

4 жыл бұрын

@ericj305 1. the price. Its too much for the type of house they are selling. Its selling at affordable luxuary range of prices. Middle class won't like it because of risk of 2.) 2. Renovation takes specialized expertise, specialized materials that will blow up your budget even more. 3. Rich people have better much better quality houses that they care about.

@ronsteltz7538

4 жыл бұрын

Most of my reasons have been expressed already but the hallways are narrow and dark and the locations for things are stactic.

Why is it that when talking about a Wright creation the fact that the roof leaks always comes up.

@jflow08

4 жыл бұрын

😂

@GH-oi2jf

3 жыл бұрын

It’s bogus. Wright houses are old houses. A lot of old houses have leaky roofs, but when an ordinary house springs a leak, nobody talks about except the people directly affected.

@kolilagephart3766

3 жыл бұрын

@@GH-oi2jf not bogus. If you look at the old news reels Wright was asked about this problem back in the thirties.

Wow. Beautiful but not in the price range for 95% of us.

@wholesome122

4 жыл бұрын

99%

As a true FFLW buff, I love everything FFLW, BUT I could not live in one that couldn't be changed or updated. He was way ahead of his time!

@donnawoodford6641

4 жыл бұрын

Darwin McQuerter FLW seemed to be more interested in his job than in spending time with his kids. American values supported earning money over family time far too long. Maybe Corona will ease the frenetic work pace or bring a healthy balance to living life.

It seems these houses will go the way of a lot of French chateaux because of the upkeep, but at least with the chateaux you can do as you wish with them (within reason). The English grade 1 or grade 2 listed properties also come with massive restrictions, you have to get really good architects and craftsmen to do any repairs or renovation and they don't come cheap

I really look up to Frank Loyd Right. While I believe he had a reputation for being grumpy, he was an idealist who said one of his main goals as an architect was to create an inexpensive home everyone could afford. Also created with earthy materials he thought would be easily available. That could be tough not being able to alter the homes.

If you guys ever have a chance to visit Arkansas, check out Crystal Bridges. One of his houses is there. I was shocked how at how simple, yet detailed it was!

I think this house is beautiful. I appreciate that the owners haven't devalued the house by renovating it with modern upgrades. Many people have tried to "improve" the property by installing Home Depot or Ikea type vanities & kitchen cupboards. Older homes in the 20s, 30s, 40's & 50s were built were usually built by craftsmen. A Frank Lloyd Wright building or home should never be remodeled.

Biggest drawback is that the interior of his homes is usually dark. Very dark. I can’t say I’ve ever seen footage where there was abundant light. Large windows, multiple windows, you will find...Light and airy feel to the place, you will not.

@pam0626

4 жыл бұрын

C-light I agree. It’s is very hard to live in a house with dark wood beams and millwork. The darkness is oppressive.

Doesnt matter if one tninks they are boring our not, they are a peice of history built by one of the most famous and well known architects in the world! They are museum, historic peices! Change the color? Is that news guys nuts? knows nothing about these homes! And homes in general, as everyone wanting to go to lighter colors in early 2000s, was such a huge ugly mistake on all homes! New or old! I dont think they are priced too high. This keeps the riff raff from purchasing and destroying these homes!!

@kurtvonfricken6829

5 жыл бұрын

01dukegirl Actually the hoity toities but and tear down more houses than the riff raft ever will. Many historic homes are torn down to make way for McMansions.

@steve19745

4 жыл бұрын

flw gave interviews stating this day would come

An FLW designed home is very difficult to heat and cool in the first place... Second - ANY alteration, regardless of whatever it is (even plumbing, electrical, or HVAC modifications) usually has to be approved of BOTH through whatever mandates the local historical society (if any) has placed upon the property ---- THEN it MUST go through the Taliesin Fellowship, the FLW legacy organization itself that governs the authenticity of these historic designed structures, wherever they may be located!

part of the problem for pitching it beyond the housing restrictions is the nature of the construction: the spaces are so open that having all normal-sized house furniture makes it look so empty. bigger, simple pieces is what i would go with, or u could go big and ornate like the chicago home

The house doesn’t even look that great to be honest

The homes aren't the problem, nobody wants to move to Chiraq, that's the hard sell

@melodyrose2170

4 жыл бұрын

koenigstiger 100 I remember my days

@DaleGribble1

4 жыл бұрын

Something like 30,000 people leave Chicago every year. 50,000 leave IL each year. Highest taxes in the nation, some of the highest property taxes, up to 400 red light cameras statewide (and they've been proven to send tickets when no law was broken), 4 of the last 7 governor's have been indicted, a democrat politician was just busted taking bribes from the traffic ticket company, and murders everywhere. People minding their own business driving or walking down the street randomly get shot. Its harder to catch a criminal who has no tie to the victim. A large percentage of murders and shootings aren't solved.

@dennisdicicco6406

4 жыл бұрын

It's TRUE there are several FLW houses in the country that sell quickly compared to on in chicago

@euenfheiejrj

4 жыл бұрын

koenigstiger 100 highland park is beautiful and has some of the best public schools in the nation.

@DaleGribble1

4 жыл бұрын

I actually just drove past a FLW house yesterday. I didn't know it was there but it showed up on my Google maps. Problem was its the dingy looking run down house near the lake in a great neighborhood full of large tall houses. I only noticed that house last week and now I find out it's a FLW house. Bummer I'll just have to sell my kidneys, liver, and spleen and buy it.

Some elements of FLW are found in mass produced Levittown houses: sliding glass door walls, high windows, fireplaces, carports. That said, I would still love to own an original FLW house because he designed it for a particular setting.

Beautiful houses but im sure the up keep is not cheap, id cry if anything happened to one of the stained glass windows.

No wonder the southside of Chicago is so violent. All the residents are stressed out and enraged by their inability to sell these quirky Frank Lloyd Wright designed homes.

is frank Lloyd wright included in the sale?

I think I will stick with my mid-century house thank you very much. I love homes like this but far too much work to keep them the way they are.

I miss 2013

@Nancy-xg9nc

4 жыл бұрын

Lol! Yep!

Looks immaculate but I can help noticing that FLW houses look dark and depressing inside due to the dark finishes and poor natural light due to surrounding trees and large roof overhangs.

The primary purpose of home ownership is the investment. That's true no matter the price. People will shy away from older homes because of the implied cost of upkeep. Add to this that the home is famous and you'll have to tolerate "visitors"? modern wiring? insulation? recessed lighting? old windows? is the kitchen original ? how about the bathrooms?

That’s a shame because I would agree that it is valuable to keep these homes in their original condition but from the outside looking in I can definitely see how that would be a problem

If I'm going to own a home I'm going to tend to it the way I feel necessary. Paying a premium price for a house that comes with restrictions would probably be a good reason people avoid it.

Frank Lloyd Wright was an artist who made art in the shape of houses. He was the furthest thing from an architect. He wasn't even a very good artist. He just put cubes in nature. They're far better off as museums than houses to be lived in. Actual builders regularly had to alter the plans just so they'd stay up, let alone be livable. I'm surprised any of them are even still standing. Many Wright homes have tiny doors because Wright was 5'7" and didn't want tall door ruining the lines of his houses.

It's not that it's a Frank house, it's that it's in Illinois. Illinois is in a tax base disaster as the people flee.

I live in Highland Park the schools are extremely bad right now and the property taxes are through the roof but it is a great neighborhood.

Lmaooooo it’s overpriced. Plain and simple. That isn’t a million dollar house.

Historic homes should be turned into a museum. I would not live in a 100 year old house, it's going to be costly to fix.

Hey!!! My best friend in high school lived in a Frank Lloyd Wright house!

Built ins and structural focal points of Wright's homes can make re-decorating/updating difficult, at best. Often, what you see is what you're STUCK with.

I would prefer a modern white bright mcmansion that's very comfortable to live on half the price.

I would love one of these homes, but I have no desire to live in IL.

Make it a Heritage hotel. Rent it for a day or week.or certain section of the house.

If I had the money I would buy one of his homes. His homes are so beautiful

I like the 1st house the best of the 3 shown. Well not the color, it's kind of a strange shade of brown for a house.

So beautiful!

Can you please direct me to an update on this property. When did it sell? These are such American Treasures - they just deserve update highlights. Thanks!

Not very cozy, and very expensive to maintain. Beautiful, in the sense that a museum is.

It's so out dates, it really should be a museum.

as an architect and a Frank Lloyd Wright fan boy, I will buy it. I would only maintain it I wouldn't change a thing.

If you are looking for a house to remodel or modernize to suit your own tastes, please don't even consider purchasing one of houses Frank Lloyd Wright designed. The banality you will produce is all too common. Wright's houses are extraordinary and rare. They are national treasures.

Wright houses are 1 of a kind customs. Expensive to maintain. You just can't walk into lowes and grab a door or window. From what i know they need a lot of maintaining as they age and its expensive compared to an average home

OMG......I can’t imagine cleaning and polishing all dat wood! 😲😲😲😲

I always loved his prairie style homes.

I love it when people think they have a million-dollar house and then try to sell it and realize they don't have a million-dollar house

Definitely worth every penny what a stunning house.

Why are the interiors so dark?

Perhaps if builders today found ways to build houses in this overall style in a cost-effective way, which was one of the aims of the philosophy of the architecture, then these homes wouldn’t be so preciously expensive.

If I had the money I'd buy it in a heartbeat

Who wants a house that is overpriced, needs work, and then have preservationists up in your business all the time? No thanks.

The 1892 one doesn’t look like a fixer upper to me, if I could afford that house I’d move in with with the way it is

Hats off to them. People that pay more property tax in Illinois than I gross in 10 years or more.

I have always thought his houses were dark, at least those I've been in.

@grittykitty50

4 жыл бұрын

They always looked dark in the pictures I've seen.

If that house was in the U.K it would be valued at 4- 6 million, that's how inflated prices are, we are all holding our breath waiting for the next crash

It's stunning.

Why can't we teach and pass down skills to preserve master pieces such as these

@gateauxq4604

4 жыл бұрын

Because we’re not teaching information anymore, we’re just teaching test answers.

Update the bathrooms, Update the kitchen...Sold!