I am a VinFast VF8 Plus City Edition user for the past year in California (since 3/18/2023) and I totally agree with Francie's assessments about her VF8. The only thing I want to point out is my VF8 has awesome sound system, until about 2 months ago when VinFast updated the software on my car. I hope this will be corrected on their next software update. I really appreciated Francie's courage to share her very real user experience with her VF8 Eco, which is a great public service to the general public and especially those who are not familiar with EVs.

@moiluuuc8416

3 ай бұрын

Thanks you from Vietnam. Anda orang Vietnam dengan jiwa Vietnam yang murni, Anda adalah suami dan pria teladan

@leelo6874

3 ай бұрын

Mua bảo hiểm mắc vô nha

@hieuminh6306

3 ай бұрын

​@@leelo6874mày cũng mua mắc vô nghe tại mày nói người ta thì cũng sẽ đến lượt mày dùng thôi mà t nghĩ mày dùng sớm hơn người ta đó

Sandy Munro said in his VF8 videos, "At the end of the day people would be happy with what VF8 offered." It's absolutely true.

Thanks for this in depth real use review, Francie! We picked up our VF8 Plus about a week after yours and the experience so far has been almost identical to yours, with the exception of charging as we do that at home so it’s very livable. It’s my wife’s daily driving and like you, she’s not performance-oriented so suits her very well. She actually gets nauseous in my Model 3! 😂 She loves all its comfort, features and practicality so far. If they can resolve all the software quirks, this would be a great vehicle. My biggest surprise was the very capable ADAS. It may be better than Tesla’s basic AP as I can change lanes and it automatically re-engages afterwards. We got the lease too. If they can improve the software over the next 3 years, we’ll most likely buy it out as purchase option at lease end is very attractive, nowhere near the $53k sticker all in.

One word to describe VF8 is UNBELIEVABLE after my first 350 miles in one day! I would say driving VF8 is believing. In addition to other VF8 high tech features including HUD, face recognition, 360 camera, voice control, heated and cooled seats, automatic driving seat adjustment; Vinfast ADAS and blind spot warning are quite interesting. When on a road trip, if you want the EV to take over, just hit the ADAS button when the EV reaches 60-70 miles/hour. All you can do now is to sit, relax and enjoy behind the steering wheel and touch it when asked. Vinfast ADAS is like a cruise control, but much better with advanced technology. The ADAS will center the EV between the lanes and drive you uphill, downhill, along the curve road and between other vehicles; it will stop or follow the same speed as the vehicle in front of you, does. When you try to change a lane, a bright yellow warning on either the left or right mirror will flash if a vehicle is coming up. After all the due at sign in, my $200 deposit and the old car trade-in, I paid roughly $200/month after taxes for a VF8 Eco, which is about $7/day with a 3-year lease to own contract. It's even cheaper than the price of a Big Mac meal 😁

@hoabienlam265

3 ай бұрын

Excilent.

@nguyenlong5989

3 ай бұрын

Thank you

@tc170

3 ай бұрын

Ohh. Good

@TranHiep54lx

3 ай бұрын

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

Just got my vf8 eco grey color with Catl battery. Solid drive experience so far & feeling safe when sitting in vf8. Still get to know the rest of the features.

@hoabienlam265

3 ай бұрын

Excilent.

The deal of VF 8 for 249$ a month will last to end of March 2024 . Hope Vinfast will extend . Rumor said Vinfast will ship all 2023 VF8 back to VN factory to replace the CATL battery for lighter car faster charging and longer range to 330 mile per charge and shock absorber to better ride like the 2024 VF8

@electric-rideshare

3 ай бұрын

That would be awesome !

Based on Francie’s experience, this Vinfast doesn’t deserve worst EV rating. That distinction goes to Toyota BZ4X.

@jeffs6090

3 ай бұрын

And it's two siblings.

@Harrythehun

3 ай бұрын

I'm not sure if Toyota is that bad. Sura, Toyota and Subaru are a bit behind but no catastrophe if you daily drive with low amount of long road trips and few fast charging sessions.

@robert5008

3 ай бұрын

Or Madza MX30

@ultrastoat3298

3 ай бұрын

💀 😂

@markplott4820

3 ай бұрын

there are MORE than 24 very Crappy BEV, many of then LEGACY auto.

Thank Francie for sharing your true experience with the VF8. I think Vinfast will hear this podcast too to continue improve the car

You ARE a professional reviewer! In just a few minutes, you answered every question that a reasonable person would have. You also do great interviews and know how to seamlessly “manage” multiple guests on the same show, giving each space to comment without confusion. Many of us are in an ABSOLUTE WASTELAND for DCFC - as in: almost NONE for a population/trade area of OVER 1 Million; the BARE handful of DCFCs are locked-up after hours at dealerships, and they usually have ONE charger! Awaiting the GM adapter, which will help, a little. (We have Home Level-2, don’t travel). In southern NM/W. TX, the general population never even SEES any EV - true Unicorns, and typical local dealers don’t ask for the EV allotment -- YET. IMO, anyone who has Level-2 available and who leases/buys an EV (Even a Spring Roll), WILL NEVER GO BACK TO ICE. The difference in daily operating-costs between gas and electrons is significant. Oh, and as a life-long, now “former” (fast) M/C rider - F-U-N. 👍🏿👍🏿🙏🏻🎯

That was great Francie! Hard to beat actual user experience reviews like this! Thank you

@heyfrancie

3 ай бұрын

So glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching :)

Thanks you from vietnam😊

If software bugs all fixed. Do you feel comfortable with the VF8. Additionally, after VF8, you can have big VF9, medium size VF6, and VF7, and the greatest and smallest one VF3. I try almost them excepting for VF3. And I will buy VF3. By the way, I will be in Bangkok by the end of March to see VF Wild. Thanks for reviewing.

@The._.Truth-.-

3 ай бұрын

All fixed? 😂😂😂

@gocnhinvutru

3 ай бұрын

Can you understand? @@The._.Truth-.-

@heyfrancie

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! I still feel comfortable in the VF8 with the software bugs. "Fixing" the bugs would be a major improvement, though - a necessity even.

CarPlay tip, if you find your phone connects to CarPlay when in your house, turn off CarPlay on your phone. Type CarPlay in settings he search. Then turn it on when in car. Ideally, vf8 should power down CarPlay search when car is turned off. Mention this to them for future update.

It seems this car is not as bad as what the media reported or other KZreadrs said

Amazing video. Really appreciate the VF8 update.

“Spring roll”. I love it!

I'm loving this series and you sharing your experience! I'd love to see how it does in the Hogback. I'm looking for a vehicle for performance dog sports. Keeping my dog comfortable and able to drive comfortably up to 4 hours away are really important. Id love to hear more about Rafiki's experience too 😊

Hey Francie if the stereo is so bad, consider taking the car to a local stereo shop and upgrade the speakers. A simple plug and play solution. You won't be able to change out the head unit but something is better than nothing with a speaker upgrade.

@markplott4820

3 ай бұрын

she , does not OWN the car, she is Leasing it. SO, she cant Change ANYTHING or Modify.

@robert5008

3 ай бұрын

HaHa the car dealership that this car will be returned to won't even look to see if the speakers in the door cards are OEM. If your so worried then keep the old speakers and reinstall before returning the car. ​@markplott4820

@JREwing78

3 ай бұрын

It would be an interesting topic for a few episodes, and potentially easy to find sponsors for. Biggest challenge is making sure they can return it to stock afterward, so they can't make any changes that aren't reversible. There's precious little coverage about aftermarket audio in an EV out there.

WELL DONE! Thank you Francie.

Hi Francie 👋. Another great podcast. Looking forward to hearing more on this. Hope your doing well!

@heyfrancie

3 ай бұрын

Hey thanks! Ditto Adam!

I really struggle to find a questions about the Vinfast cars, but always great to hear other owners perspective about the EV ownership. We are in third age of EV ownership. From enthusiastic age with really few cars and no public chargers, to more cars and more chargers available but still early adopters issues, and now many different cars, many chargers but still problems with confused consumers, confused manufacturers and old charging systems and different standards for charging stations and ports. The forth age will be better, with mature cars, charging operators and car manufacturers.

Excellent presentation! Very informative. Looking forward to your next one.

I gotta say. I have had a bunch of dogs. That dog is the best. So chill. A perfect friend to hit the road with. Give this a thumbs up for rafiki

This was exactly what I was looking for after watching your videos on the car.

The only vf8 review i would watch

Thank You Francie, nice to hear an honest user review.

I am happy to hear that you're having an above average Electrify America experience in your city

I had a hybrid that had at 1/2 to 1 second delay before you got full response if you flattened the peddle. This was annoying, but you learned to account for it. My current vehicle is ICE, and it takes longer to spool up in the same situation. Again, you learn to account for it. On charging, since you have over a week between charges, I assume you don't have a garage to allow Level 1 AC charging. That should be enough for a vehicle that is not driven much each day. (Also, I was surprised to find that there is only 1 CCS fast charger in Memphis. Next closest really is in Mississippi. It will be Arkansas when the Flying J gets their installation up and running across the river.)

@Gocnhindantoc

3 ай бұрын

But some reviewers say that 0.5 seconds is the Vinfast fault and anoying. Actually it is a safety mode. But it's better to 0.25s or adjust like ICE

@NanoSchaap

3 ай бұрын

I think it should be something configurable. For those who are coming from ICE vehicles , the delay may make sense. However if you are already an EV owner, if feels weird to have a lag on the accelerator. One thing I compare between VF8 and my MY. We have options Eco, Normal , Sport. Whereas the MY has 1 option , with additional $$$ to add the extra power to the system. Not really needed. But it is all or nothing. I prefere to have options.

Nice review!! If you lease it for a month and buy the car then the price of the car is $29k for plus model and $27k for Eco model. They are offering $13k off now on 2024 VF8 ECO. It's an option when we are on lease...if the company survives one more year and if they sell 10k vehicles atleast in the next two years. Then we will be confident in buying out the car that's

Thanks for sharing, you represented great :)

From VN with love. Thanks you

❤️Francie, you are the most civilized American I've ever seen…

Francie, you must live in an apartment or condo stating you cannot use at least a 120-volt EVSE. I have a Tesla DMLRY, and my garage door opener stopped working with my nema 14-50 plug, so I started parking in garage with just a 120 volt plug, and I was just fine for three weeks before the opener was fixed. My friend uses a 50' HD 12 gaga extension cord for over 4 years charging his Bolt EV. Extension cords, not recommended but will work pulling 12 amps. You really must get a way to plug in at home. Great video. I'm glad to see

For a home charger, Tesla now has a combo charger (NACS & CCS). We have the Tesla Wall Charger, and have had no issues at all with it. For other options check out “State of Charge”, but for Future Proofing you should probably get one that handles both major standards, preferably natively or at least with an adapter.

if you lease the car for $250 a month then what you DON'T mention is that the avoided cost of gasoline could pay mostly if not all that would cover the lease payment thus you could be driving this car for free. Seems like no one is talking about the avoided costs of fossil fuels.

I like vf8

If you guys could look into the 2015-2017 kia soul ev recall that did a bcm update and 30 days later goes into limp mode. There are tons of ppl who did this and then have had horrible experiences at the dealer. Most of them still sitting at the dealers 6 months later with no answers.

You're a natural for podcasts. I wish I could speak to a device as well as you do. As for the Vinfast, it has not come to Australia and I won't be considering it if or when it does. My BYD Atto3 has similar software glitches, but the sound system is great and more importantly - it's an excellent drive.

@Liughost05

3 ай бұрын

I don’t buy anything from communist country

@heyfrancie

3 ай бұрын

I appreciate that. Happy to hear you enjoy your BYD - lucky that y'all get to have them down unda!

Best name for a car ever.

Evaluation is only accurate and accurate once you have had an experience with this VF8 car. Hope you will have more experiences with Vinfast cars, VF 5,6,7,8,9. and VF Wild. thanks for your clip.

It was very interesting to hear your experience and especially your experience being dependent on public chargers in a public charging desert. In fact, I’d love a whole series of episodes with various guests all of whom live dependent on public chargers and especially those in areas with little to no charging infrastructure. Many of us live in places more similar to where you live than in places like Colorado where Kyle & co are. We don’t have a plethora of DCFCs or even level 2 infrastructure. My hometown in East Texas (population >125K) has NO DCFC within 50 miles. The only level twos are at dealerships with limited access. Tesla isn’t much better. There are Tesla level 2s at ONE upscale grocery store. The closest supercharger is 25 miles. This is the reality for much of the US. It would be great to hear the experiences of people who drive electric but who don’t have home charging or who regularly travel to/through areas with no charging infrastructure. I would love more diverse experiences included, starting with your own. And especially your experience as a woman driving an EV. How safe do you feel charging? More or less than at a gas station? (Some scary $?!\ happens at gas stations). A whole vlog on your experience as a woman EV’er would be great. In any event, keep up the good work. Love the content and I enjoy your presentation style. 👍

@NguyenThi-hm1qh

3 ай бұрын

Vinfast has provided the fast charger for its products with $900 to charge at home Driver can charge full within 3hours

The song, “Memphis” (J. Rivers) was a monster in the early-60s. Also, if you park Spring Roll next to the Pyramid, NO NEED TO CHARGE, EVER! 🤣 The NEW offering from O of S Reviews featuring EV Hot-Rod engineers/rebuilders is just excellent entertainment. Those guys Hewlett & Packard (not the car) started in a garage; deep meaning and signals in there, somewhere. 👉🏿 BTW - New Mexico power company, Power New Mexico, is FULLY SUPPORTING alternatives, especially EVs. Up to $500 rebate for L-2 nozzle in your relaxed hand. There are not nearly enough Licensed (& qualified! Different thing) Electricians and Contractors for the work waiting, waiting, and the short-term IS NOW brutal, due to this shortage. I hope women see the opportunity here; Momma has ALWAYS been the strong one. 👊🙏🏻😉

Wow, only one high speed charging location, and a crummy one at that... sometimes I forget that not everyplace in the US has the charging infrastructure of Colorado & California, where I spent most of my time. I agree with others about leveraging slower level 2 public chargers as a supplement...ABC (always be charging)

The glaring problem is lack of dealers. I wouldn’t have any car where I didn’t have a service option within an hour at most.

@Gocnhindantoc

3 ай бұрын

Check out it's website

32:00 Thanks for going over the Forums. Very interesting.

@heyfrancie

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for tuning in again, Diane! :)

@dianewallace6064

3 ай бұрын

@@heyfrancie My pleasure. Always.

Interview Michael Dunne! He is bullish on Vinfast and that’s high praise from a global BEV expect. Herbert had him on his YT channel and was gushing over his credentials. I have been listening to Michael’s podcast Driving with Dunne for years, he is an untapped talent. 😊

Great to hear this update. I am sorry to hear about the software issues you have been having. Do you feel confident that the connection you have with support team will result in giving you the proper software updates in a reasonably quick time, within the next few weeks or months, to radically improve your experience? I really want this car to work out great, so to have another good Electric Vehicle option on the roads for the people to choose from that will further bring prices down. Much respect.

@laloajuria4678

3 ай бұрын

this company will not work out.

@gocnhinvutru

3 ай бұрын

??@@laloajuria4678

Public DC fast charging should really ramp up this year after the Infrasturcture bill. Hopefully, you'll have more options to charge.

@doodlebug1820

3 ай бұрын

Until Trump declares himself emperor and shuts it all down

I believe there might be 1 or 2 dealerships in your area that have DC Fast Chargers (typically 1/2 dispensers with limited hours), check plug share.

I have a Plus version here in Canada 🇨🇦 built on exactly same day as yours. I concur with the quirks and I do have a Model Y. The iOS and Onboard App requires a lot of work still. Not sure if the issue is in Canada compared to USA. But the remote functions don’t work at all. In a cold country it is imperative to have a pre-conditioned cabin prior to departure. Non need to reinvent the wheel. Just copy others practice. 😊

@atnauan8522

3 ай бұрын

Stop telling lie, please. KZreadr Long Lúa in Canada has vf8 plus and it's working very good even in heavy snow. Ashamed on you

@minhtiennguyen346

3 ай бұрын

​@@atnauan8522bớt nghe 1 chiều lại, ai cũng có quyền có ý kiến cá nhân cả nên đừng xúc phạm người khác. Nếu bạn là người Việt, tôi xấu hổ vì bạn

@minhtiennguyen346

3 ай бұрын

Sorry for my compatriot's rudeness, thank you for trying the vinfast experience.

@atnauan8522

3 ай бұрын

@@minhtiennguyen346 xấu hổ gì vậy? Tụi nó xạo thì tao chửi, tao ko nghe 1 chiều, tao dùng cái đầu để tao biết ai nói đúng ai nói xạo

@atnauan8522

3 ай бұрын

Actually i don't need anyone sorry for me. I'm sorry for u two, a white man carries disparaging thoughts about Asian products, specialy vietnamese ev car and a vietnamese man from old regime who lives in US, telling lie about vf8. Ashamed on u two!

Love your dog!!

Vinfast VF8!can charge with tesla charger station. A man, living in C.A, did a test from the early days march 2023.

I’ve heard some people setting up businesses who will come out to you and charge your car via a mobile 50kw charger. Also is there a scheme where you can rent out someone local home charger for the day / night.

The aerodynamic of VF8, with more interior space, will have more air dragging that caused more cost in electricity compared to the Tesla. Also, for other EVs with AWD features and similar horse power as the VF8 would cost more. Also as I know now, the fast charging will cause the battery to be more hotter that would reduce the life span of the battery. Also with 10 years warrany, perhaps VF8 has battery warranty coverage to cover battery change near to the approaching 10 years of the car.

@Liughost05

3 ай бұрын

More horse power but all aspects can’t compare with Tesla, the model Y go 0-100 km/h only 3.6s while vf8 is 5-6s 😀

@hungquocdang

3 ай бұрын

That is normal because the VF8 has 1K pounds heavier than the Tesla that takes more time for sprinting.

@hungquocdang

3 ай бұрын

VF8 is bigger with more bigger battery that contributes to the weight. However, 5.6 sec is more than enough as per many tester experts. Perhaps it will be saver when getting a crash .

@Liughost05

3 ай бұрын

@@hungquocdang model Y have more range too ,300 miles compared to vf8 260 miles 😀

@hungquocdang

3 ай бұрын

If that is true, then you are right for 300 miles range. For now, I know only Vinfast provides 10 years warranty, that would cover the battery I think.

Leasing is the best choice

You need to menton that the VF8 model 2023, that VF want to sell quick in 2024 cost 35K. For the 2024 model the price is around 50K.

I just got a call (Vancouver, Canada) from a Vinfast rep offering $3k off sticker plus 0% financing on a VF8 (I didn’t ask what the term was since I’m completely happy with our Ioniq 5).

Francie, could you plug your car into a regular 110 charger at home until you have a 220 installed?

We want to see 70 mph range test of Vinfast in COLD weather. I am surprised u guys haven't done it yet.

I drive vf8, I love it, Tesla look like sedan car, I love big car

Question- So trickle charging is not an option?

On Home charging, I was surprised my VF8 Eco pulls a full 9.6 kW from my 2018 JuiceBox 40 (40 Amp).

@laloajuria4678

3 ай бұрын

it has a 40A on board charger.....so.....math......

How long does 20% to 80 % charging take on average?

You are driving vinfast VF8 Eco 2023. The VF 8 2024 plust trim much better than 2023. However 2023 is really really cheap with that leasing contract. It alot cheaper than it's price in Vietnam 56k $. Good deal with that solid car

@Liughost05

3 ай бұрын

Not worth at all , we have a lot of better choices 😀

@Gocnhindantoc

3 ай бұрын

@@Liughost05it's up to your opinion.

If you end up in Wichita I'll head over from KC and we'll go get big bowls of pho

Any L2 public chargers in the same 50 mile radius?

❤

I’m pretty sure I saw you in Gilroy

❤❤❤❤❤

Im in Colorado Springs and have 1 EA station and 1 Evgo which has been down for at least 6 months. So frustrating

@frankcoffey

3 ай бұрын

And the Tesla charger is inside a parking garage. Last time I didn't get to charge because it was too busy and had to pay to get out of the garage gate. We skip Colorado Springs now and stop in Monument.

Will you do mountain drive video?

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.. Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ ☮ ❤

A great sound system needs a high-end quality of source. A normal sound system plays mp3 320kbps better than highend system. But, with highend / lossless songs, a highend system is alway better than popular system with more layer and details. I alway play my fav lossless songs via bluetooth by Neutron player pro.

On the Fob, I consistently accidentally pop the hatch on my VF8 Eco.

"What was most surprising?" "Hmm..... probably the screaming demons" Yeah, that makes sense.

Has it really been a month already?! Holy meatballs Batman!

re charging - you didn’t mention using any public level 2 charging, including malls or shopping centers. Some of those are free, and they can supplement occasional DCFC. An extra 6% charge per hour while you are there anyways for a meal or shopping run can help and add up. It is a different mindset from “fill up then drive to empty” from the gasoline era.

@laloajuria4678

3 ай бұрын

theres also only 2 in the area.

@adamchalom3872

3 ай бұрын

@@laloajuria4678 Fair point - I don't know what metro area she is in. The suggestion might be useful to people elsewhere who have electric cars without home charging.

Do you have to drive back to North Carolina every 5k miles for maintenance?

@lehoanghiep9936

3 ай бұрын

The maintenence period for vinfast EV is every 12000 km or 7500miles, the cost is 40usd for all

@GraysonA

3 ай бұрын

@@lehoanghiep9936 Yes, but she doesn't live in North Carolina. I'm wondering if she needs to drive there every 7500 miles.

OOS and other KZreadrs don’t like Apple CarPlay mostly due to filming issues with their iPhones…..LOL. CarPlay is miles better than any OEM software.

Gas prices in Missouri are currently $2.88. Average gas mileage for an SUV 23mi/gal ~ 12.52c/mile. electrify american price per KWH is 48c. VF8 achieves 2.7 mi/KWH ~ 17.8c/mile. So you are paying $530 more every 10 thousand miles. 😢

@sparks869

3 ай бұрын

Probably why she wants to home charge where it's way cheaper.

I know which station she's talking about. It's probably the EA in Nashville at the kroger. If so..... that one STAYS busy 😭

Gosh - I have four non Tesla DCFC spots within six miles of me. (So Cal) I could not live with my 70 mile leaf if I didn’t !

@NguyenThi-hm1qh

3 ай бұрын

Vinfast has provided fast charger at home, can charge full in 3hours, $900, but 220v

Vinfast good car

Thanks for the updates. 1 DCFC for 60000?! I thought our community of 100000 with 3 DCFC was under served

I want to hear if Kyle bought his dad’s Cadillac and for a good price?

Regarding battery temperature warning, I’m sure you meant 90°C not 90°F

@gocnhinvutru

3 ай бұрын

Fahrenheit

@heyfrancie

3 ай бұрын

Deffo Fahrenheit

Ben fast is charging 429 now and you only pay 250?

11:30 AM almost afternoon Francie

It’s strange, here in QC Canada there’s a local Vinfast dealer with what appears to be much inventory and the combined state and federal rebates = $12,000 yet the lease deal is $500/ month which is equal to $375 USD. Not worth in IMO even as a second vehicle.

@Liughost05

3 ай бұрын

What the price of vf8 in Canada? In the US it price is the same with Tesla model Y , not good at all , I can say it expensive

@antoinepageau8336

3 ай бұрын

@@Liughost05 I think it costs more than the model Y. If I could lease one all in for around $375/month for 36 months, I would consider it. But not at $575.

Sure😊

US CPOs need to throw out the garbage hardware they are using. It's insane how many problems there seem to be with fast chargers in the US. Just get Alpitronic Hyperchargers, ABB Terra 360, Delta UFC200 or Kempower. They work fine.

A lot of the engineering though was done by TATA, on a TATA EV platform. TATA is not a startup. I can't say Vinfast "only" puts a badge on it, but the heavy lifting should have been done.

@Liughost05

3 ай бұрын

What is TATA 😂

Vinfast cuối cùng đã trả tiền cho mọi người để đưa ra đánh giá tốt về chiếc xe hơi

Former World EV of the year rammed off road by police after battery failure The Electric Viking

Not having home charging AND it being a CCS vehicle is a max L. Thank you for your service Francine 🫡

Wondering if you can contact your local city councels. See if the city can get some funding for level 2 chargers. You might want to check your local car dealers for level 2 chargers. My local GM dealer has four level 2 chargers for free.

@laloajuria4678

3 ай бұрын

hahahahahahhahhahahahaah. her city is burning to the ground.

My Tesla Model 3 also beeps so much it drives me crazy. Tesla is supposed to be the best EV, but it's terrible due to their poor choices in some areas. The beeps are insane, systems are constantly "degraded" in the slightest of weather (cameras degraded, speed limited, park assist degraded, etc), auto wipers are terrible, basic autopilot is terrible (my Kia's ADAS is much better). All this stuff drives me crazy and I definitely do not want to buy another Tesla.

14:40 braille 🤣 f**king dead