France and England to 1453: The Forging of National Monarchies

In this video, I trace the history of France and England from approximately 1066-1453, looking almost exclusively at state development in each country. I then cover the Hundred Years' War (1337-1453) and talk about its impact. The overall goal of the video is to show how France and England emerged from this period with a distinctive kind of government and how each country had an established identity as a nation.

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  • @YuriRadavchuk
    @YuriRadavchuk5 жыл бұрын

    Man you have an awesome content base. I bet you want to grow a bit faster. Two things you can do to make it better - if you please- is to make more comprehensive playlists and group all the series together. The naming , tagging and keywording the description will definitely help as well. Wish you best.

  • @YuriRadavchuk

    @YuriRadavchuk

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys, you think you're smart promoting your shitty platform under my comment.

  • @SB-xt5jk
    @SB-xt5jk4 жыл бұрын

    "I don't know how I ended this episode with a Hitler reference. I try not to do that." That's how it starts, dude.

  • @decimusausoniusmagnus5719

    @decimusausoniusmagnus5719

    3 жыл бұрын

    One of us One of us One of us

  • @Alexeiyeah
    @Alexeiyeah6 жыл бұрын

    The formation of a centrilized government is always very interesting, especially because how much rulers and "nobles" (or other variant) are very different and important factors in centrilizing a country around one group or one figure-head. France and England are very interesting too because how much they were involved with each other through the years. Great vid, man. Don't stop doing this!

  • @ThersitestheHistorian

    @ThersitestheHistorian

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, I'm glad that you enjoyed the video.

  • @darksambo2152
    @darksambo21526 жыл бұрын

    Been looking for a Chanel like this, thanks.

  • @ThersitestheHistorian

    @ThersitestheHistorian

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad that you like the channel.

  • @nimbledick9869
    @nimbledick9869 Жыл бұрын

    There are a few errors here Thersites. English Monarchs were crowned from 1066 onwards almost exclusively at Westminster Abbey in Westminster, London not Canterbury Cathedral, in Canterbury not a single monarch was crowned there after 1066. the presiding bishop was most often the Archbishop of Canterbury, though any Bishop would suffice. The main draw for Pilgrims in Medieval England at Canterbury was the shrine of Thomas Becket (as depicted in Canterbury Tales) there was a whole tourist industry around it, different regions had different sites for Pilgrimage such as St John of Beverley in Beverley Minster, St WIlliam at York Minster, York which also had another Archbishop. pretty much any Cathedral in England had it's relics and shrines that drew large crowds of Pilgrims. I don't think you can describe one location in England as being the Spiritual Centre of the country at this time. The placement of Archbishops in York and Canterbury are more to do with ancient connections and Saxon England, Canterbury was where the first Post-Roman Saxon King became a Christian after Pope Gregory sent a Papal Delegation there, and so by tradition as this was the First Saxon Christian Kingdom hence the oldest, this was the seat of the Archbishop overseeing the Southern Dioceses of England. Likewise in the North, York was the largest Roman City and seat of power in the North, who had a Bishop present at the Council of Arles in the 3rd Century and also happened to be one of the main cities within the Northern Angle Kingdom of Northumbria and so became the logical place for the Archbishop overseeing the Northern Dioceses of England (though there is a 300 year gap between the last known Roman Christian Bishop in York and the first Anglo-Saxon one). There may well have been a third Archbishop in the midlands if the Mercians hadn't retained their polytheism longer than anywhere else in the Anglo-Saxon realms.

  • @Pedrooko
    @Pedrooko5 жыл бұрын

    For more on this, I recommend Norbert Elias's "The Civilising Process", vol II - formation of state and civilization. It talks about the formation of France and the first absolutist monarchies. From the Merovingians all the way up to the house of Bourbon until the revolution.

  • @njb1126

    @njb1126

    2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting I’d like to check this out as I’m always looking for medieval French history

  • @Pedrooko

    @Pedrooko

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@njb1126 You'll love it, then. Norbert Elias is a phenomenal historian and writer. The first volume sheds light on the term "civilized" and how it evolved through time. Volume II is a great social and historical piece on the formation of modern States. ⚜️

  • @lucqq3792

    @lucqq3792

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@njb1126 can confirm the civilising process is a very very good text

  • @PRODAt3
    @PRODAt32 жыл бұрын

    Philip the Fair wasn't called fair as in just, he was called fair as in an archaic way to mean beautiful. In other languages like french and Italian this is less ambiguous as he is straight up called "Filippo il Bello" or "Philippe le Bel" both meaning Philip the good looking/handsome.

  • @thomasbenck9525

    @thomasbenck9525

    2 жыл бұрын

    It' "Phillip der Schöne" in German as well.

  • @athenassigil5820
    @athenassigil58206 жыл бұрын

    I've been watching your channel as of late and.......wow! You are an excellent historical You Tuber and kudos! I also really enjoyed the video on Charlemagne, most excellent, but they are all so good!

  • @TheEvirdrevo
    @TheEvirdrevo2 жыл бұрын

    I love your video's. As somebody who spends way too much time on youtube I'd like to offer you these tips. Don't use white backgrounds, it's a killer on the eyes, especially for dark mode users. I think a lot of your audience mostly listens to your voice. Listen to John Michael Godier or History Time. Try to emulate their voice. They are both soothing (you have this already) but are a lot better at expression in their voice. Keep up your videos!

  • @BrutusAlbion
    @BrutusAlbion3 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoyed these videos on medieval france man. Thanks so much!

  • @tacocruiser4238
    @tacocruiser42385 жыл бұрын

    You could do a series of videos on the Successors of William the Conqueror in England. Cover the period from 1066 to 1485. That would be awesome.

  • @ThersitestheHistorian

    @ThersitestheHistorian

    5 жыл бұрын

    It would be a cool series, but that is probably a task best left for someone else.

  • @Vauxhall1434
    @Vauxhall1434 Жыл бұрын

    The Magna Carta and the Forrest Charter 1217 are the most significant legal documents in English Law, and indeed every one of those US Patriots who subscribed to the Declaration of Independence knew quite well they did so standing on the solid foundation and shoulders of the Magna Cartas of C13th England. That's an important fact.

  • @careyfreeman5056

    @careyfreeman5056

    7 ай бұрын

    Agreed. I think he's just as guilty of generalizing. It's clearly a major step on a timeline that, according to some, dates back to the original Saxons and their concept of a first among equals.

  • @mglkeiser1532
    @mglkeiser15326 жыл бұрын

    Nice man

  • @ThersitestheHistorian

    @ThersitestheHistorian

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @martinhughes2549
    @martinhughes25492 жыл бұрын

    The reason it took the English do long to conquer Wales was because the Welsh resisted; Wales has very difficult topography, Edward I had to spend a fortune on expensive Castles to secure his control at Caernarfon, Conwy; Fflint, Montgomery, Aberystwyth and Beaumaris, Rhuddlan, Denbigh and Rhuthun& Harlech. Edward also refortified the Welsh castles of Criccieth. This was a hugely expensive process.

  • @thattimestampguy
    @thattimestampguy Жыл бұрын

    1:11 Monarchy, Identity, Nobility. 3:18 Capital City, Spiritual/Cultural Center City. 4:14 Ceremony Around Monarchy. Coronation. 5:13 National Identity. 6:23 Differences in kind are stressed: 7:41 The Norman Bailiffs Administrative System. 10:48 Normandy England Vs Gaellic Ireland 12:10 France 1100s 14:31 France Phillip II campaign. 16:34 Inquisition 1140 France 20:15 John I of England & The Magna Carta. 23:47 Fox Hunt. 24:38 Parlement of France started under Philip The Fair, the King desired advisors to help him run his Kingdom, 49:54

  • @redafm4505
    @redafm45054 жыл бұрын

    King Richard the lionhearted wasn’t a good politician but he wasn’t an idiot. He was a excellent military commander who beat Saladin, who himself was a excellent military commander.

  • @rockstar450

    @rockstar450

    2 жыл бұрын

    To be fair it wasn’t the first crusade where they weren’t supported, they had plenty of assistance from the Holy Orders and numbers. Saladin was stretched far more than the regular crusade telling lets you believe and Richard’s “noble” decision to cancel the crusade times all to suspiciously when he had more power to gain elsewhere. I grew up loving him and he’s really been exposed as a self serving Frenchmen who took from everyone to serve himself and what did he really give back? His real legacy is the one sided romance of the 3rd Crusade to cover up the fact the 4th Crusade destroyed the Roman Empire.

  • @rockstar450

    @rockstar450

    2 жыл бұрын

    But I do agree, he wasn’t an idiot. Your point stands he took logistics and army management very series and, although romanticised, his reputation as a General is well deserved. Was expanding, rather than refuting you :)

  • @AVIMD8
    @AVIMD85 жыл бұрын

    please do a video on the inquisition

  • @willx9352
    @willx93522 жыл бұрын

    English monarchs are not crowned at Canterbury Cathedral. Since 1066 nearly all English monarchs have been and are crowned at Westminster Abbey!

  • @Alpha1200
    @Alpha12006 жыл бұрын

    What was the difference between the bailiffs and the provosts?

  • @ThersitestheHistorian

    @ThersitestheHistorian

    6 жыл бұрын

    I can't recall, but I think that one may have been higher in rank than the other.

  • @anthonyreynolds1995
    @anthonyreynolds19953 жыл бұрын

    Castille?

  • @tacocruiser4238
    @tacocruiser42385 жыл бұрын

    I think the 100 Years War should be officially separated into 3 separate wars since the first two phases were ended by official peace treaties (which led to significant periods of peace). It's important to emphasize the difference between a temporary truce and an legit peace treaty. Peace treaty means the current war is officially over.

  • @Laocoon283

    @Laocoon283

    Жыл бұрын

    It is officially recognized as 3 seperate wars. It's only colloquially referred to as the 100 years war.

  • @andrei19238

    @andrei19238

    10 ай бұрын

    pedantry

  • @nicolascavadini3570
    @nicolascavadini35704 жыл бұрын

    Philippe the fair is called philippe le bel (philippe the handsome) in french. might "the fair" means the handsome in some ways?

  • @MrDeicide1

    @MrDeicide1

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Fair" is poetic for pretty also, google

  • @angusarmstrong6526
    @angusarmstrong65262 жыл бұрын

    Isn't the word ruin or ruined pronounced roo-in or roo-in,d not the way you pronounce it which is like royn, rhyming with groin?

  • @slightlyconfused876
    @slightlyconfused876 Жыл бұрын

    Henry V was the crown prince at Agincourt? I think the title tells you that he was king.

  • @samdog166
    @samdog166 Жыл бұрын

    I heard somewhere, it said (and this could be an English bias) that the use of the longbow was an early downfall for feudalism. For its indiscriminate nature on the battlefield. Where feudal battles were often very discriminatory in terms of who died and who was captured for ransom. With the longbow it was harder to decide who you did and didn’t kill. I know this was definitely the case with firearms, perhaps the longbow was an early precursor to this? Eventually you’d see leaders leading from behind their armies, rather than in the midst of them

  • @samdog166

    @samdog166

    Жыл бұрын

    Since feudalism is very intertwined with the ideal of the brave, martial noble, it’s interesting that the nobles get less brave when they’re not sure they will be spared anymore haha

  • @erikroggeman7620
    @erikroggeman76202 жыл бұрын

    26:00 "The fair" ("le bel") means "the pretty"

  • @neptunex_xo
    @neptunex_xo Жыл бұрын

    anyone else watching this right before their test/assignment

  • @ThomasPaineintheArse
    @ThomasPaineintheArse2 жыл бұрын

    War without fire, is like sausages without mustard - Henry V of England

  • @valmarsiglia
    @valmarsiglia3 жыл бұрын

    You've never heard "Castile" spoken aloud before? It doesn't rhyme with "reptile."

  • @RelivingHistory1

    @RelivingHistory1

    9 ай бұрын

    and canterbury, and the domesday book lol. But I love his vids

  • @hulking_presence
    @hulking_presence Жыл бұрын

    What has democracy to do with the common people?

  • @gilgalbiblewheel6313
    @gilgalbiblewheel6313 Жыл бұрын

    isn't it strange that while the Papacy is situated in France England owns almost half of France.

  • @henrymellard5647
    @henrymellard56472 жыл бұрын

    Riond

  • @KaiTakApproach
    @KaiTakApproach2 жыл бұрын

    You are flat out wrong in your assessment of the role of the Magna Carta in history: "The decree listed basic laws that all men - including the king - were bound to. Included in its tenets were: No man is above the law - even the monarch; that you cannot be detained without evidence of having committed a crime; that everyone has the right to a fair trial by jury, and swift justice; and that a widow could not be forced to marry and give up her property (the first step towards women’s rights)." If you think you can tell me how this, along with the shift toward greater parliamentary powers, is not an influence on the English Civil War and the American War for Independence, I would like to see you try. If you are going to cite counterculture as a source at least say as much; otherwise do not try to pawn it off as established fact like you did. Otherwise, good job as usual, and thank you for your work.

  • @voiceofreason2674

    @voiceofreason2674

    2 жыл бұрын

    Magna cart was like what ? 1250 ? And the English king got beheaded by Cromwell in like 1650 ?

  • @sethbecker7162
    @sethbecker71625 жыл бұрын

    Probably should have expected you to end on a Hitler reference, but I did Nazi that shit coming.

  • @minnumseerrund
    @minnumseerrund2 жыл бұрын

    Jeanne 'Mascot of GOD' d'Arc

  • @mrniceguy7168
    @mrniceguy71682 жыл бұрын

    Just finished watching. I like to imagine you’re just regularly struggling to keep Hitler out of your videos, lol.

  • @samiamrg7
    @samiamrg73 жыл бұрын

    I guess I get what you are trying to say about Inquisitions, but the example you gave in this video doesn’t exactly give the image of them being “not so bad,” considering that Inquisition contributed to a crusade which involved the mass slaughter of thousands of people.

  • @samiamrg7

    @samiamrg7

    3 жыл бұрын

    +MeAwrsomeness Yes, the one against the Cathars.

  • @samiamrg7

    @samiamrg7

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Peterson Peterson I suppose it's not, but that doesn't make it ok. That propensity among societies has lead to most of the greatest atrocities in human history. I suppose Inquisitions capture the modern imagination since they remind us of modern examples of authoritarian or totalitarian governments terrorizing their own citizens.

  • @samiamrg7

    @samiamrg7

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Peterson Peterson I mean, yeah, those were brutal times and monarchs had to consolidate power, but even that just reinforces to me how monarchy sucks and we in the modern world should always be committed to democracy and anti-authoritarianism. Also, the closer you get to the modern period you see how many of these oppressive imperial policies lasted until just a century or two a go, some even up until the end of colonialism itself. That is where the evil and brutality of imperialism stops being an abstract historical concept and becomes the basis for many problems the world faces today. Again, it shows how imperialism is terrible and should never be repeated. It was ultimately inefficient, held back human development, and it's legacy continues to hold back human development.

  • @rockstar450

    @rockstar450

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@samiamrg7 Emperialism wasn’t inefficient for the time. In the modern day the average person is educated enough and had communication so there is less dependence on the state, but this wasn’t always the case and empires were successful because they ensure large masses of people have common ideals and education to keep them in league to repel the inevitable conflict humans find themselves in. Empires were brutal but basic tribes are brutal, the reality is humans are only nice now because we largely live without poverty and if you’re western you largely have British Empire to thank for that. Empires allow trade and technology for health and development to a far greater level where there is poor communication and the reason all former colonies in the long term tend to have a far greater standard of living 100 years later. Yes, empire is brutal, but conquest and slavery were longtime staples of humans and eventually let go by the Empirical powers once economies were stable to do so. The “Nice” world we live in is because we are so well resourced and democracy came about due to increased education levels for the base citizen, resulting in more competition and quality of government in the preferred form of democracy. And as for the dis on Monarchy, I agree it can lead to terrible leaders probably more often than not, but remember humans have a habit of fighting over power and it’s often the lesser of 2 evils.

  • @voiceofreason2674
    @voiceofreason26742 жыл бұрын

    My least favorite thing about Anglo saxons isn’t anything particular about them, even as a pretty big history enthusiast I can’t tell you whether I would like them more or less than the Normans cuz it’s a 1000 years ago. But I don’t like them cuz of the people who yap about them so much. I don’t think any English person knew what a Anglo Saxon was until somebody mentioned it in explaining why they should get paid more than a Celtic person, which is also a term they previously hadn’t cared about prolly. Same thing in France when they start writing “nos ancestres Les Gauls” around 1800 like yea sure whatever, you have the ancient right to bully your neighbors. And today in the KZread comments it’s pure shit head behavior throwing around Anglosaxon this bell beaker that greco Italian Chad vs nordcuck, the worst shit, like you’re all just white ppl get over it