After all these years, the depths to which Buckley stooped in his ad hominem attack-and his astonishment of the hissing rebuke-still rankles me. For him to imagine that he would overwhelm Baldwin's brilliance and passion with blithely-offered, patrician condescension is uncanny. His undoing at this debate is a bottomless well of delight.

@Iloveswedes

Жыл бұрын

White supremacy allows one to assume that their mediocrity is better than any other race's brilliance. But at least he 100% an idiot. He had the right mind to try to debate and not only monologue.

@37Dionysos

Жыл бұрын

Seems to me Buckley lost every debate he was in from Baldwin to Chomsky and back again. Only America could have sustained his so-called career.

Like Lebowitz, I was deeply affected by James Baldwin. He was the first person I ever saw on television who I heard talk like that-by which I mean, he was the first real intellectual I ever heard talk. And I was just flabbergasted at his eloquence and intelligence. That made me read him and it really shaped my view on race.

I love Baldwin. I appreciate that he influenced Fran so much.

@Iloveswedes

Жыл бұрын

I only learned more about Baldwin in the last several years, in my mid-30s, sad to say as a black man. Only heard the name, was never assigned any of his books to read. Never even heard about him during Black History Month. He should be mentioned in the same breath as a Langston Hughes or someone of that sort, but no. Great writer, maybe even a better orator. The ideas and the way he expresses them should be a requirement for citizenship here.

@fullredplatinum

3 ай бұрын

Baldwin is not just an extraordinary activist, he's a great writter. Not as you might at first think, I've only read Giovanni's Room but he manages to keep you hooked and to pack a lot of action, thought, and accurate representation in a very short book that's why all aspiring writers should read him.

"Inequality of women would never end because It's biological, It's a reality, you know, men are really different from women" . I will be thinking about this the rest of my day and probably the next week too!

@rubia.carolina

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a good thing, right? When something makes us question/reflect even if we don’t or end up not agreeing with what’s being stated.

Fran is good on social commentary. Wish they would just transcribe some of her interviews into a book, somewhat for her commentary but more for her fantastic humor and wit.

@keithnichols7926

Жыл бұрын

Fran says talking is easy and writing is not. Does she thinks the processes involved in the two modes are overwhelmingly different, or that once an idea is spoken, it's beyond revision or should never be revised. Fortunately, many of her observations are on tape. And many of them crop up so often that she appears to have decided they are well expressed, just as a writer does when perfecting a draft.

If only everyone was as "Savage" as James Baldwin was. The world world would be a better place.

James Baldwin the first author who really moved me. To this day. I mean his writing not speaking but that too

@nicholassgouros8612

Жыл бұрын

My freshman year at university a professor assigned us Sonny’s Blues. At the end of the semester I think him for doing so and told him I was becoming I an English lit major.

When I was growing up, there were three celebrities I despised on sight: John Wayne, Bing Crosby and William F. Buckley.. I have since more-or-less gotten over my antipathy for Crosby and Wayne. William F. Buckley's overweening arrogance, however, still rankles as much as ever. What a vile excrescence on humanity.

@jackdillon5903

Жыл бұрын

Just curious what it was about Bing that made you initially dislike him, Ray.

@infrequentvlogs4433

Жыл бұрын

Buckley was Suckley

I don’t care what color a person is in regards to leadership and competence.

Can anyone tell me where the Baldwin clip is from?

@rubia.carolina

6 ай бұрын

It’s from “Public Speaking”, by Martin Scorsese.

@zakc7504

6 ай бұрын

I think they mean the original clip

@rubia.carolina

6 ай бұрын

@@zakc7504 Oh, sure! Thanks! The very first one is from "A Conversation With James Baldwin" (Dr. Kenneth Clark, 1963. The footage of Baldwin smoking is from "Un étranger dans le village" (available at rts.ch). And then, Baldwin debating William F. Buckley.

James Baldwin was fearless. He could have remained comfortably in the south of France but he choose to come back to the USA and take part in what was happening in this country in the 1960's.

Race is skin deep, women and men differences are deeper than just color of the skin.

❤❤❤❤Baldwin

Fantasy, immaturity, insecurity and ignorance.

Random Mingus.

4:48 crazy that you couldn't say this now

@rubia.carolina

2 жыл бұрын

Isn’t it?! Unbelievable.

@pelloo3627

2 жыл бұрын

You definitely could say this now, maybe some would disagree, but I think most sensible people would agree that there does exist differences between men and women

@matrix2297

2 жыл бұрын

@@pelloo3627 I mean when a Supreme Court nominee can't define what a woman is we have a problem. Of course you can say it, but I more so meant you can't say it without being taken for being some 'kind' of person instead of just stating an obvious fact. I'm coming from the perspective of being an Arts student at a leftist university in Australia, I truly have not heard about the basic fact that there are fundamental biological differences between men and women in any of my classes, which have ranged from sociology and philosophy to sexual politics. Granted these aren't hard sciences, but that is why you would think they'd rely on the indisputable facts of biology to ground their theories. Some of the readings I've had to push through sounds like stuff of Brothers Grimm.

@mercury_rising

Жыл бұрын

@@matrix2297 it’s not that she COULDN’T define what a woman was, she chose not to do so because of the context. It was being asked as a trap. There was no correct answer for her in that context because the question was being used as a tool in gender politics.

Buckley was insufferable. He reduced himself to a caricature of a WASPY intellectual.

Imagine that smell 🤮

@lennarthagen3638

Жыл бұрын

@YellowMeadow Spirituelle he's trying to be a smart ass

Wow ! Who does this woman thinks ended slavery ? Not just here but all around the world ! So it was the British and the Americans that did that ! And the fact that she will not even remotely try to acknowledge it ! Just shows she's a victim is always going to be a victim and no one should ever take anything this woman ever said seriously !

@jackdillon5903

Жыл бұрын

Just trying to understand you...are you referring to Lebowitz? And you are saying that slavery around the world ended because the British and American people? Tone is hard to decipher in online communication so just looking for clarification.

@gochuckyourself-yf2rz

Жыл бұрын

@@jackdillon5903 I don't know why you're confused about my statement it is common knowledge . Britain France and the United States . Ended the slave trade . As it was known in the . In the 1800 . That doesn't mean that slavery ended . All it means is that slavery ended in the Western hemisphere . Africa and the Middle East and Asia we're still practicing slavery . It just wasn't being imported into Western Civilization . In 1808 the United States outlawed the importation of slaves . Meaning no more slaves be brought to the United States . Brittany

@gochuckyourself-yf2rz

Жыл бұрын

@@jackdillon5903 no slavery did not end around the world but slavery started to end in 1807 when the British stopped importing slaves in in 1808 when United States stopped importing slaves . By an act of Congress . In France did as well . All three nations stopped the importation of slaves to their countries . And put an embargo on slave ships entering their territories . Slavery was a common economic and labor practice's around the world . France Britain and the United States ended that practice . At least in their countries . .

@maluse227

10 ай бұрын

You don't really get any credit for no longer committing horrific atrocities against your fellow man, especially when you don't take the required steps afterwards to heal the wounds you inflicted.

@gochuckyourself-yf2rz

10 ай бұрын

@@maluse227 and no one asked for any credit number one number two there were no Free people brought to the Americas . Every black person brought to the Americas was already enslaved in Africa . There were no Kings there were no queens they were all slaves . Every human being brought to the Americas on slave ships were already enslaved in Africa . And it was a real problem throughout the entire world so yes you do get credit for ending that disgusting practice . The fact that you do not recognize that ending that practice not just here in the Americas but all the round-the-world was very important just shows your victim mentality . I'm sorry you can't recognize when good people do good things but I can regardless of the color of their skin .