Frame Drum Vs. Hoop Drum: What's the Difference?

In this video, I discuss the difference between a hoop drum and a tar (commonly known as a frame drum). Many people learning finger techniques on the tar become frustrated when their hoop drum does not produce the same sound. I point out the design differences in the two types of drums, and reveal a hybrid solution that some drummers find satisfying.
The hoop drum in this video is one of my most sacred possessions. I made it from a kit I purchased from drum maker Steve Kauder. It is made from buffalo hide. You can find similar drum-making kits at www.beardrum.com
See affiliate links below for tars and hoop drums:
Remo tar: amzn.to/3Lk41LR
Remo buffalo hoop drum: amzn.to/3QPFVtw
The beautiful tar with the black drum head and vine overlay on the wood can be purchased through Cooperman Frame Drum Company. It is a handmade drum and can take four weeks or longer to make and ship. See the link below.
www.coopermanframedrums.com/p...
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  • @drnomad16
    @drnomad162 жыл бұрын

    Finally! Someone who knows what they are talking about! Thank you!

  • @thedreamingdrum

    @thedreamingdrum

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @mithinie
    @mithinieАй бұрын

    Thank you ❤

  • @cutechiangels
    @cutechiangels Жыл бұрын

    Thx Bobi for the explanations. 👍

  • @lindagunzelmiller6332
    @lindagunzelmiller6332 Жыл бұрын

    Answered many questions re frame drums. Thanks!

  • @thedreamingdrum

    @thedreamingdrum

    Жыл бұрын

    Happy to hear that! Thanks for watching, Linda!

  • @randomnotes
    @randomnotes10 ай бұрын

    Very informative - thank you!

  • @thedreamingdrum

    @thedreamingdrum

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching -- glad it was informative!

  • @WoodwindSpirit
    @WoodwindSpirit10 ай бұрын

    Thank God you decided to run a KZread channel. 😍 So many helpful videos! 🙏✨

  • @thedreamingdrum

    @thedreamingdrum

    10 ай бұрын

    This warms my heart -- thank you so much! I'm happy to hear you are benefiting from the videos.

  • @BarbaraGail_drum_song_dance
    @BarbaraGail_drum_song_dance2 жыл бұрын

    Nicely done, Bobi! 🌟🙌🏽🌟 Folks might wanna know that sometimes the Remo economy hand drums (the HD series you showed with the dark frame), don’t always come with the 4 holes. The last time we ordered lots, about 16 of them (12”, 14”, and 16”), none had the hole. 🤔 Holes can be drilled... But I’d go to someone who knows not only how to drill into a resin composite, but also who measures meticulously so that the holes are evenly spaced. Hope you’ve shared this video in our women’s frame drum community on Facebook! 😊🙏🏽✨💖

  • @thedreamingdrum

    @thedreamingdrum

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching, Barbara -- and thanks for the additional info on the Remo drums. Very good to know!

  • @BarbaraGail_drum_song_dance

    @BarbaraGail_drum_song_dance

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thedreamingdrum you’re welcome! Yeah it was news to me, too! Please keep it up! 🌟

  • @JohnJuddMusicStudio
    @JohnJuddMusicStudio8 ай бұрын

    Hello there!! Excellent video. Thanks for sharing. Can you confirm what diameter that hoop drum that is?

  • @DeepMindfulness
    @DeepMindfulness Жыл бұрын

    Appreciate the video (thought it’s bummer you promoted credit cards at the end. It definitely supports addiction all right.) Thanks!

  • @thedreamingdrum

    @thedreamingdrum

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and for sharing your thoughts. Happy drumming!

  • @mkat2369
    @mkat23698 ай бұрын

    The Amazon link you share doesn’t show the same Remo Tar you show 🤔

  • @danmusiceasy
    @danmusiceasy2 жыл бұрын

    Someone showed me a shamanic drum once that sounded really well with hand drumming. I think if it's very well stretched out, it can sound good enough, and it also depends on the type of skin used. But still the disadvantage is that it can go low in pitch when it is wet outside, and then you have to stretch it again using a candle or fire or a hair dryer. Because professional frame drums are so expensive, I'm considering trying this option even if it's not ideal.

  • @thedreamingdrum

    @thedreamingdrum

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your comment, Dan. Very true about the type of head and how tightly it is stretched, not to mention the weather variations! The Remo buffalo drum sounds decent with finger techniques in free-hand or lap style. But with no thumb notch/hole, it can't be held properly to play in the upright style. When I was first learning the frame drum, I just used what I had (hoop drum and large tambourine) and still had a fun time! But when I first played a tar using the finger techniques, I couldn't believe the difference in the sound because it was designed to be played that way. Have fun with whatever fits your situation!

  • @NieuweDagNL

    @NieuweDagNL

    2 жыл бұрын

    In my experience it mostly depends on the quality of the skin, with a consistent thickness, evenly stretched for correct tuning. Also the shape of the frame / hoop matters, espescially on the sides

  • @thedreamingdrum

    @thedreamingdrum

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NieuweDagNL I agree -- all those factors effect the sound quality. Thanks for adding to the conversation!

  • @mkat2369
    @mkat23698 ай бұрын

    I wish Remo had the Tar you show with the holes

  • @OriginalFallofMind

    @OriginalFallofMind

    4 ай бұрын

    They do. I also have a 22" frame that has predrilled holes for dowels or rope. Its actually pretty light for a largee drum. You can easily make a thumb hole with a hole saw or dremel if you wanted to.

  • @ellenhafen1138
    @ellenhafen11389 ай бұрын

    I am still confused as to what the difference is. I hear you playing a hoop drum with an animal skin membrane and a tar with a synthetic membrane. You say that there is a difference in the construction and therefore a difference in the sound. Tars were originally made with animal skin, of course, and stretched over a frame. They did not always include a thumb hole or notch. Can you tell me more about the difference in construction when both the hoop drum and the tar are made with an animal skin membrane? What make the difference in the sound when they are both made with the same membrane?

  • @kaybhee6
    @kaybhee62 ай бұрын

    show both hands ,, so we know how to make those sounds