Actually my brain sees a racing red RockShox lyrik but 36s are really sick🤘🏼

After riding a bike from 2009 I'm still impressed by all the suspension.

@MartinTeerly

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I had something like 80mm very heavy no name fork with coil spring. Forks with air spring cost a monthly wage and a kidney

@tommycooperfish

4 жыл бұрын

@@MartinTeerly There are some pretty cheap rockshox solo air forks like the recon/tk gold/judy etc. they don't all have to be 1000 dollar forks you know.

@MartinTeerly

4 жыл бұрын

@@tommycooperfish I know. My misses has Judy. It works better than most expensive fork in 1996 😂😂

@ethanlewandowski1939

4 жыл бұрын

The suspension on my 2007 trek fuel ex 7 is amazing

@BigVanLittleAdventures

4 жыл бұрын

@@ethanlewandowski1939 thats what I told myself too. Untill I rode some new stuff and then went back to it.

Mike, your enthusiasm and deep knowledge are impressive! You explain things very clearly as well.

@zp2010mo

4 жыл бұрын

Brown noser!🙄

I'm really impressed with my 36 grip 2 fork, it's works really well for me with 2 token's (13 stone) and rides like a good coil DH fork once setup. I settled on slow high speed rebound, mid speed lsr and both compression only a few clicks from fully open

I own the 36 factory and the lyrik ultimate, and although the 36 has more adjustments the lyrik has just that plusher feeling.

@billblow5739

4 жыл бұрын

I own both and completely disagree

@brettclark3885

3 жыл бұрын

@@billblow5739 I have never had a fork since 2012 that I thought was really good. Most were sub-par. The 2017 Lyrik (and 2014 Pike) disappointed. The 2020 Fox Factory 36 is excellent.

@diegobruno5050

3 жыл бұрын

I realize it's pretty randomly asking but does anybody know a good site to watch newly released movies online ?

@shoeonhead

2 жыл бұрын

@@billblow5739 does your lyric have the charger 2 or 2.1 damper? I think those feel pretty great. The grip 2 also feels pretty great. If you had a 36 with a fitgrip, grip, or fit4, it feels completely trash compared to the grip2 imo. I think a rockshox fork with a motion control, R/RL chargers or charger 1 damper feel like hot garbage competitively. But the charger 2 is rad and feels plush as hell while giving you a lot of control parameters. I would say the grip2 is more reliable, I’ve never had to rebuild one. It’s usually a charger2 or a Fit4 if i have to fix a new damper. The Fox lineup is also a little more stanced In that they didn’t need to develop a totally different air spring config to make it stay at full travel more often. The new debonair spring is just a borrowed mid stroke dimpled negative chamber that Fox use in the evol spring first. The Charger 2.1 is just rockshox take on a hybrid circuit damper like the grip2. I think rockshox high end stuff is awesome. But most consumers in our area would choose the Fox setup of money was not option. Not that either company prices super competitively haha

@everyday2111

2 жыл бұрын

@@brettclark3885 Yea for sure! This is a tutorial to all of the best ones, the first one is the best i use it all the time kzread.info/dash/bejne/loWrltlyh8q-k7Q.html

Great informative video on the the 36 fork. Much appreciate all your knowledge and detail for us to understand. 🤟

Still happy with 34 Fit Grip :) Most of my time is spent on a climbs. Probably would be slight overkill for light trail riding :D Awesome to hear you would even change the travel without extra charge!

Great review man

So glad I got turned onto this channel by JKW! I needed some new content to binge watch!

Got one on my new bike. Have been running a 34 with fit 4 before and it is a world of difference! 160mm on mine and it's awesome. I've always been the lockout guy, but with correct lowspeed compression adjustment, ypu can climb this thing without lossing energy on diving into the travel. Awesome, but it's goddam pricey! All in all, recommendation!

Love how much of a bike nerd you are. Your enthusiasm for riding is infectious. Love the reviews mate, wondering if you blokes could do a detailed Fox 36 service your fork at home video, I live in rural Western Australia & there aren't many places around here that service suspension components. It's a send away job, which means being out of action. Which sucks.

@mattdudester9037

4 жыл бұрын

He's got one. This should do it kzread.info/dash/bejne/p2iIqpJqhdSroNY.html

Yup, running exactly that fork on my 2019 YT Jeffsy. Though still learning all of the adjustments, at this time, it still feels a little harsh

@D6onGPS

4 жыл бұрын

Jensen less flex than rock shox try some alloy bars

😮 What a beautiful fork

Yes I have the 170 mm boost 44 mm offset 27.5 on my giant reign advanced 0 27.5 2019 partnered with fox float X2 trunnion metric size 205 by 62.5 and going to try the dhx2 latter on

Great vid 👍👍👍

I'm sending it on some big jumps with 100mm travel one there wrong bike for my size. Time for an upgrade. I'm buying this shock next. The orange looks so sexy

Like you said, it's a personal preference. The 36 grip2 and Lyrik ultimate are awesome forks. I prefer DVO suspension.

I'd love to try some Fox suspension on my 2019 153 27.5 CR. Maybe I'll upgrade as the budget allows. I got into MTB and away from motocross due to cost, but these goodies are pricey. I'm not saying not worth the cost, but a little hard on a working stiff's disposable income.

Love the bike bro🤘

Great content

i'm sure this is an amazing fork. i have 18 Fox 36 FIT 4 and i can't see how any fork could feel better. i think there's slight differences fork to fork depending on micro tolerances, oils n greases, seals and set up. all i know is after a couple of services and change of fluids, my 'old' factory FIT 4 is delicious. best thing of ever ridden.

Have you now converted your bike to coil? Or is it old footage? If yes, is it permanent?

What are your settings for the fork? How many volume spacers do you use and whats you low and high sped settings?

Adding one to my XCT Pro

Like the wheels .. have u made a review on those wheels

Cool video! I find the stock suspension on my Process 153 CR to be adequate for my needs of trail riding in Western PA but would be curious to try a bike with these upgrades. I got into mountain biking to get away from the high cost of motocross, but may be willing to spend the roughly 2K or so to upgrade suspension if financially doable, all things considered.

@mattdudester9037

4 жыл бұрын

Ha ha no man it isn't cheaper but people just look at you like you are crazier since you spent "That much on a bike with out a motor!".

@bertrathkin4298

4 жыл бұрын

All things considered, mountain biking is cheaper than motocross. Generally speaking, the bike is less, maintenance is less, riding areas are closer to home and typically free, and one needs less protective gear. Mountain biking may be stealing participants from motocross as moto has priced many people out of the sport. One can get into MTB at a decent level for 5 grand. Not so much with motocross.

Waiting for the Performance Elite to arrive alongside my new Capra for over 2 months now -_-

I have the 36 with Fit-4 and like it, but I am curious about the Grip 2

Great video! Very compelling. Would love to hear your take on the Rocks Rox Lyric RC2 in comparison to the 36.

@TheChizmatic

4 жыл бұрын

GRIP2 way better

@mattdudester9037

4 жыл бұрын

​ The Lost Co. I'd like to see a comparison with the DVO Onyx / Fox 36 / Lyric Rc2 Really hard to find any reviews, comparisons with the Onyx.

@mikee8244

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheChizmatic that my friend is a matter of opinion, And as we all know, opinions are like arse holes, everybody has one. You are perfectly entitled to yours

Would you recommend this on a all mountain hardtail?

Does the Grip2 damper need to be rebuilt as often as the Fit4? I find that I need to rebuild my Fit4 every 3-5 months.

Will they ever move the axle lever to the other side, away from the disk? So many disks spoilt by accidental touches, and they didn't learn from the 2015 QR recall when the lever got unwound and stuck in the rotor

How do you compare this to the Fox Performance Fit4 model? I'm looking at a new bike and am curious to know is it worth it to upgrade to a Factory model.

Hi, I have an Orbea Rallon M team ver. Are you able to change the fork to 180mm for 29' wheel?

I am owning a Fox 36 and after 1,5 Months riding my fork crown stranded to crack. Is this a general problem from Fox? And are there possible solutions that is not changing the stanchion unit?

I like to try one, but its very expensive. Next year I may gonna buy one.

Riding Grip2 for almost a yr now..

With a dpx2 would you recommend the fit 4 over the grip 2?

so why does Bike Radar and others prefer the lyrik ultimate with charger 2 damper ?

my upgrade from 34 factory to 36 factory i day and night!

You going to Sedona MTB fest? If so I need help setting up my factory 36😅

I have watched your other video probably 15 times on how to dial the grip 2 in,along with several other KZread videos. Still a bit confusing for me to dial in for my riding conditions.

@lxwvandenberg

4 жыл бұрын

The factory recommendation is the best place to start. Then ride and determine what part of the ride was not adequate. Do only one adjustment and then do another lap. Then repeat.

Great review, I must say It is a great looking fork. But I will never buy a Fox product again after such poor luck with their products. Last season I sent back my X2 back to be warrantied twice. When I bought a new X2 for my Enduro bike the screw which allows the air canister to be opened stripped out after one turn because it was installed so tightly. But I have not only had poor luck with their shocks, I just sent my 2017 36 back to Fox because for the second time this season the air spring has failed. I'm only 160 pounds so it's not like I'm riding the shit out of these things. In the three years, I rode my RS Yari I didn't have a single problem, so from now on, I'm sticking to RockShox, or I am going to experiment with other products such as the EXT Storia and Push Industries suspension.

@mikee8244

4 жыл бұрын

Stick with what you know man, lyrik rc2 is equal and probably easier to set up, Now, kashima lyriks , I'd love to see that happen

Just picked up a 2020 model for $820 on sale!

It’s nice fork, but I prefer Lyrik or BOS.

@kevinfrmkdz

4 жыл бұрын

Rc2 lyrik 🤘

@catg9196

4 жыл бұрын

Kazik Skurwysyn Lyrik Ultimate.

@bikingis4me48

4 жыл бұрын

no

@TheChizmatic

4 жыл бұрын

Nope

@ronhau1542

3 жыл бұрын

BOS? sorry only been doing about 7 months.

I never see anything on the new 2021 FOX Factory Kashima 34 . Anything different?

I’ve got a crappy £160 Apollo with shimano twist shift and basic rim brakes. I dream of having a really nice hard tail with these.

Looking at a 26” version what does that mean

Back to the dpx2?! Why not the X2 or keep your dhx2 with the mrp spring?

@TheLostCo

4 жыл бұрын

I'm always riding different stuff to let our customers know what parts would be best for them and how they ride!

@florianw.560

4 жыл бұрын

​@@TheLostCo Do you feel a difference between the X2 and the DPX2 ?

@mikee8244

4 жыл бұрын

@@florianw.560 I hope he answers this one, I'm in the market for a possible upgrade

@lxwvandenberg

4 жыл бұрын

@@florianw.560 the x2 is a whole nother level of shock. The bottom out resistance is stellar, as well as the tunability and adjustability. The DPX2 is great trail bike shock upgrade from a DPS or a rockshox deluxe, but is less of a big mountain/big hit kinda shock...

What inner diameter size rim are you running with the Minion SS?

High end price for something that doesn’t cost much to make, and this basic design has been out for yrs , over priced would be an understatement, I’ll never get one NOT AT THIS PRICE cheers Shane uk 🇬🇧

@Danstheman1357

4 жыл бұрын

Is there any fork not expensive that performs well ?

What are manufacturers speccing fit4 instead if Grip2 is the best? (Eg. Mondraker) Still think Rockshox have the best damping out of the two brands. Even the cheap ones are fantastic.

Hi. I’m around 74kgs with riding gear. Have a 2018 36 with recent upgrade to the grip 2 dampener, a vorsprung luftkappe, and the travel changed to 170mm. Was wondering what hs/ls compression settings and hs/ls rebound settings you recommend? Like a lot of tech trails.

@TheLostCo

2 жыл бұрын

Give us a call or shoot us an email and our bike nerds can help give you some direction! (360) 306-8827 // sales@thelostco.com

I have an spare 2019 Factory Fox 34 150mm. I would like to use it on a dirt jumper. What I need buy/do to reduce the travel to 110mm?

@angusmacdonald4999

4 жыл бұрын

I might be wrong, and there may be more to this, but im pretty sure you just need a new air shaft. www.pushys.com.au/fox-34-float-sc-air-shaft-assembly-110mm-travel.html

I know its off the topic from the vid but does anyone know of a shock shop in the US that can convert an x2 to a dhx2? Saw a company on instagram that did it but theyre located in the UK and the price id pay for the work and shipping id be better off buying a whole new dhx2. I have an extra Factory Float x2 I dont use that I want to convert for my dune, I love how the dhx2 feels on my session I want another one on my enduro bike haha

More videos I see, the more I have a feeling there has to be something wrong with my fork :) can't get S out of supple from it, and that is with cleaning all the grease from air shaft. 🤷🏻‍♂️

MRP Ribbon Coil✊🏼

With the rumored Fox 38 fork, do you think we need more stiffness vs the 36?

@mikee8244

4 жыл бұрын

I'd like to think not. Not going to be noticed unless you're a serious competitor. With the rockshox lyrik rc2 being equally as good as 36s i think it's another hype thing to part us from our hard earned cash

I hope to see the 38 +180 in the near future supporting rowdy enduro and mid-high park features. I am slightly heavier than most riders, muscular, so riding a thicker stanchion with more travel would support larger folks @+180lbs etc... Not to mention enabling E-Bikes with larger battery packs. So yes, I’ll wait to purchase another fork, as I heard it will be launched for the next EWS. Have you or anyone heard the same? ... You shred BTW! 👍🏼

@mikee8244

4 жыл бұрын

Um, 40's?

@Twentykixx

4 жыл бұрын

Mike E I want to ride a bike with the geometry to still have some climbing capability. The 40 is too plush and too long. I have a DH Rig, so the ask is for the intermediate of that setup... like a Scott Ransom with the twin-lock capability with a stiffer beefier fork. Um... do you get it??

@mikee8244

4 жыл бұрын

@@Twentykixx thx bro, i wasn't sure if the 40s would be too long, so I do understand why you like the idea of 38s. As far as i can tell from posts ive read the 36s have the same internals as the 34s, is this correct? That being said if they upped the stanchions to 38 and still kept the 34 internals they would be strong as hell, the stanchion walls would be 4mm thicker than the 34s, if they go for new internals them things are going to be pricey as hell. Is this an actual thing in the pipeline for fox or you just thinking about what would be cool? I like the idea. Edit Doh it is a thing in fox's future, just re read the end of your initial post

@Twentykixx

4 жыл бұрын

Mike E, Richie was riding a set at Silver Star, so wondering if they will release to the general public or keep it for the race teams, as not to diminish 36 sales. I could easily see where they would need to be cautious as not to stifle current products in the stream. That being said, the aforementioned reasons are warranted for some above average riders. I’d have a set real quick. 🤩

@mikee8244

4 жыл бұрын

@@Twentykixx 👍🤙

I can instal one remote Lock on this fork??

Price vs performance, I really like the lyric.

I know this video is 4 years old, but maybe you will see this anyways. I just got a Cannondale Trail Se hardtail, with a 120mm coil fork, and I need an upgrade. I am looking at getting either a Fox 34 140mm or a Fox 36 160mm at the same price, and both are Factory models. I am guessing the 160mm is too much, so I would be converting the 36 to a 140mm, adding extra cost. Is it worth it to get the Fox 36, which I could turn back into a 160mm fork if needed some day, or just get the 34 140mm? If available, I was thinking of 130mm for the 36 model. I like the Fox 36 for the extra features and extra beefy legs, over the 34, but knowing that either will be a huge upgrade over the coil fork I have now. I am 240+lbs, so a bit on the heavy end... Thanks in advance.

I'm more of a Lyrik person, but the 36 does look fresh

where was it again you said you ride? was it the Pacific North West by chance??

@christophec3653

4 жыл бұрын

James Brant Bellingham he does

@The Lost Co. What is the best way to contact you (buying a fork, international shipping) anderen get a reply as soon as possible?

@christophec3653

4 жыл бұрын

Call the shop

I didnt know Shaun White rides MTB?

Love my 36. Rides as well if not better than my mates lyric with coil conversion except I only paid once. Huge step up from my old 100mm 32 RST to 170mm 36 Factory, but I reckon I earned it with almost 10yrs on the old setup.

"we're riding lots of bike parks out here in the pacific northwest" i live in portland, oregon and im just getting back into mtb. gonna buy a YT Jeffsy soon and i wanna know where these bike parks you talk about are! Could anyone lemme know of any in the area?

@thelostco8231

4 жыл бұрын

We're up in Bellingham, so we're right by Steven's Pass and Whistler. We spend a lot of time in Whistler!

What's your opinion vs the lyrik ultimate?

@mikee8244

4 жыл бұрын

@Andrew's Adventure both amazing, I think you would have to be doing some serious riding on both forks to come to a decision, but not many of us have the time or cash for that which is why videos like this help, a bit. It would be very cool to see one rider two identical bikes, but with 36's grip2 on one and lyrik ultimates on the other and have a proper shootout.

Didn’t the lyric review better than the fox 36 on bike radar?

How much to lostco build a kona like that?

@raupenimmersatt6906

4 жыл бұрын

Likely Like 8000+

What is the mt bike your riding in this video?

@peterhansen2781

4 жыл бұрын

He's on a Kona Process 153. I think he has a video detailing the bike.

Do you Think it is worth to pay 350€ for the Upgrade from fit4 to grip2?

@pbls43

4 жыл бұрын

Yes,everybody that I know and done that don't stop praising about the smoothness and mid stroke support.

@mattdudester9037

4 жыл бұрын

I talked to someone over the weekend that said after a long time, I think a year, to get the Grip2 dialed in she recommended getting the Fit4. Said the small bump was more compliant and the whole thing is just easier to set up.

For me it's the best fork out there ,(the Ohlins too ) as long as they don't start creaking,this goes a long way back and fox just replace the CSU (crown steering unit) but when do we get a definitive fix? Otherwise yeah,the best fork on the market

@shoeonhead

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve had thousands of forks come through the shop, but I’ve never seen a high end CSU from Fox or SRAM go bad in any way except having it replaced for stanchion damage. Replace a lot of lowers. But I’ve never had a CSU have a defect. Which is crazy now that i think about it.

@pbls43

2 жыл бұрын

@@shoeonhead That must be a joke,is a well known problem mainly from Fox ,maybe because there's a large number of bikes with them

@pbls43

2 жыл бұрын

You can follow here 😀. www.mtbr.com/threads/creaking-fox-38-csu-the-curse-remains.1142473/

i want smashy smashy plow plow 😪 . lol i have the 2018 orange fox 36 factory fork RC2 w/ 2019 air spring and luftkappe. Grip 2 upgrade kit is a hope come spring 2020.. or i just need fox to allow a nice 20% off code to be used on it 😅

@falkyn06

4 жыл бұрын

fox is running a special on the 36 grip 2 upgrade till like mid December. Check out the website..

@mattdudester9037

4 жыл бұрын

@@falkyn06 have to get that with a service though correct? Can't have it sent to me to install on my own, right?

@Guineson

4 жыл бұрын

@@falkyn06 damn just saw this now, will need to see if its still a viable option.

@falkyn06

4 жыл бұрын

@@mattdudester9037 Not sure. I just had mine in for service and they told me about it. Amazing!

Glad my Patrol came with the 36 performance elite, although I've been riding it for 8 months and still feel like I don't really understand it. Watched so many videos and even hired a coach. The rebound is a pain to adjust with the cover too. Probably one dial is enough for most people. I think the Rockshox Pike on my old bike was a little smoother off the top, but way less support and control.

Most riders don't even need these high end forks or others of the same kind. Mid range should be enough for most to grown into. If i had a bike shop i would be trying to sell the best of the lower and mid tier products, things that would actually benefit the consumer.

This seems like over kill for a weekend warrior. Single track trail rider. But my question is do bigger riders need the bigger forks? Does it matter? I’m 6 ft tall and 240 lbs. does rider weight matter for forks

@Skynet_11

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, an heavier rider will flex the fork more.

I wish they made the e38 factory in 160mm . kinda makes me sad as a large e bike rider .. and I wear out drive trains quick because I'm a bodybuilder and weigh 230lbs. I destroyed my last hub and I love my new e36 but I would love to have the extra stiffness

@TheLostCo

2 жыл бұрын

Give us a call, or shoot us an email. We can do travel changes for forks and can likely figure something out for you. Our bike wizards will be able to help you further! (360) 306-8827 // sales@thelostco.com

Mrp ribbon coil👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

Anyone else prefer the yari over the lyrik? I do

I just have the Fox 36 Performance with the Grip Dampener instead of the Grip 2. Off the top the small bump compliance is crap. Mid travel support and large hits are great but it's just stiff off the top of its travel. Think I might have to upgrade the internals to the Grip 2 air Spring and Evol Dampener.

Menwhile I'm riding a 100mm cracked Chinese air fork on qr...

Fox 🦊 36 grip2 🤟👍🤩

Want to order one Fox 36/150 mm

@TheLostCo

3 жыл бұрын

We have some in stock in both 27.5" and 29" in a few damper and finish options! thelostco.com/collections/forks/36mm+fox-racing-shox Let us you know if you have any questions! (360) 306-8827 // sales@thelostco.com

Grip 2 best on the planet

Lyrik for the win!

Noice, What's the travel on that fork?

"Shmashy Smashy Plow Plow"ing into JOE MAMA I have achieved comedy people. Hold the applause

If we’re watching this, video, probably already have the fork. No need to sell it to us!

One thing that I think is quite rediculous is that in order to remove the air cap to emplace Volume spacers one must go and buy a socket for 40 bucks. After spending 1200 on a fork you would expect the air cap to fit a common sized socket.

@mattdudester9037

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed that most sockets won't slip but you can grind a 32mm socket flat, or use an open end wrench and put a little painters tape around to make sure any slips don't mar the paint.

@jaredgulaga8367

4 жыл бұрын

Matt Dudester thanks for the tip!

this man hints of Andy Samberg a little bit, bikelyn 99.

Not sure your carried weight affords you an opinion.

haha not anymore because the fox 38's are here

Just sold my lyrik for a factory 36. The lyrik just didn’t have enough support in the first half of the travel

At the end of the day 2020 Lyric is still the winner 👍

I am broke, so I only ride a 34. 😭

Here's a plan: 1)Get a nice coil setup 2)Set it up for you 3)Thank me later. ;) Sometimes a little weight has a big payoff....and a coil will always get you back. Ever tried to ride a collapsed air fork or shock back to the trailhead? Better performance, better reliability, and (should be) lower cost. I've ridden coil exclusively since I got tired of air failures over 15 years ago. I can't think of any other offroad machine out there that uses air suspension...

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