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  • @bmxboxter
    @bmxboxter9 ай бұрын

    “Built from the ground up”

  • @ransomsdp

    @ransomsdp

    9 ай бұрын

    Their studios should be built from the ground up

  • @2021._.rav4

    @2021._.rav4

    9 ай бұрын

    fr,i am so glad i didnt buy this game,gonna play it with gamepass for free

  • @IHaveALotOfBraincells

    @IHaveALotOfBraincells

    9 ай бұрын

    Yeah, the new fm is so embarrasing. Some many bugs, missing features and the god afwul upgrade system.

  • @Guiltycircle486

    @Guiltycircle486

    9 ай бұрын

    @@2021._.rav4same, only spent 35 bucks on the bundle with the standard version free

  • @kronosbalmond6472

    @kronosbalmond6472

    9 ай бұрын

    @@ransomsdplegit a good suggestion for forza XD

  • @biskit9397
    @biskit93979 ай бұрын

    These models are probably gonna outlive humanity

  • @xdShau7er

    @xdShau7er

    9 ай бұрын

    Fr

  • @garryrptr

    @garryrptr

    9 ай бұрын

    The S15 gonna live forever

  • @callumbailey43
    @callumbailey439 ай бұрын

    Damn, Forza Motorsport is using the same car models as Forza Motorsport!!!

  • @alekss8846

    @alekss8846

    9 ай бұрын

    Thats hilarious 😭😭

  • @einautofan6685

    @einautofan6685

    9 ай бұрын

    That's interesting!🤔😜😂

  • @Kev27RS

    @Kev27RS

    9 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @lickwidapex222

    @lickwidapex222

    9 ай бұрын

    Imagine that... just drive, get fast.

  • @CrashBandiii
    @CrashBandiii9 ай бұрын

    I have fuckall faith in the gaming industry anymore. Everything is just a reskin or a reskin. Probably about time to go outside again

  • @71Chevelle1989

    @71Chevelle1989

    9 ай бұрын

    Same, I lost faith a long time ago.

  • @Jeff-sim-tube

    @Jeff-sim-tube

    9 ай бұрын

    It's sad aye , just a money grab , I ain't buying thus crap though

  • @NobodyAsked-xh8cs

    @NobodyAsked-xh8cs

    9 ай бұрын

    Boo hoo. Keep crying about how the games you've been served on a silver platter are reliant on you buying them while neglecting indie games who are losing all the credit due to whiny "gamers" like you.

  • @DarkStryder360

    @DarkStryder360

    9 ай бұрын

    I just played the COD MW3 beta and yep.. Reskin.

  • @rosaria8384

    @rosaria8384

    9 ай бұрын

    The gaming industry is just a joke these days.

  • @flurpoid
    @flurpoid9 ай бұрын

    For whatever reason, T10 always seems timid to make small post-release changes like updating car models despite already having the model available. I think it's because they use every incremental upgrade as marketing material for the next title, so it gets shelved until then.

  • @p4k8g5i7

    @p4k8g5i7

    9 ай бұрын

    When they release a game every 5-6 years this is cerainly a very long gap and people will expect quality and innovation. If they do small inceremental updates in span of 5 years then RIP forza forever.

  • @noleyestoad4477

    @noleyestoad4477

    9 ай бұрын

    no excuse for them to be using old car models that arent even accurate for this title when they literally said and I qoute "ALL NEW BUILT FROM THE GROUND UP" weve all been played! there is a serious list of things wrong with this game! I was a die hard forza Motorsport fan beat the first 4 100% the game feels like FH5 just on race tracks now SMH!

  • @braydos1578

    @braydos1578

    9 ай бұрын

    I'm hoping that will change after they dropped the number from the title and have gone live service. I would hope they continually update this game for a long time, and fund it via game pass and live subscriptions.

  • @nickloveman6451

    @nickloveman6451

    9 ай бұрын

    That’s what happens when your owned by one of the largest mega gaming corporations and your running one of their flagship’s that deals with real world agreements

  • @NFSracers1
    @NFSracers19 ай бұрын

    They did it with the circuits and of course people complained because they were missing a lot of important ones. But for me they did well, it was time to redo the circuits. I'd say it's time to redo the older models too.

  • @valkeitos

    @valkeitos

    9 ай бұрын

    And i do think that with the way that they've built the game will allow thrm to make updates to the car models over time. They should laser scan them though

  • @CITRUS--

    @CITRUS--

    9 ай бұрын

    While im very happy they are doing rescanned tracks, its just annoying that they left alot till the 11th hour. 4 of the tracks in the current track list are completely fake, so how are they still rescanning/finishing tracks for the game AFTER its released, This is a team backed by Microsoft Studios that had 4 years to sort this release content out. Remember these arent paid or unpaid DLC's, its just "oops we know the game shouldve launched with these tracks but we were asleep, but dont worry they are coming". So they will just be added in a random update some time next year.

  • @ishshah8695

    @ishshah8695

    9 ай бұрын

    Did the tracks well? La Sarthe looks utter dogshit.

  • @tyranus1111

    @tyranus1111

    9 ай бұрын

    The curbs textures could have been more existent but otherwise the tracks are great

  • @dolbyprologicii

    @dolbyprologicii

    9 ай бұрын

    the game looks so unfinished, it feels like they did a hackjob in 3 months to create this mess of a game

  • @DaSpecialZak
    @DaSpecialZak9 ай бұрын

    10:03 I'm pleased that they have fixed the textures of the 22b, I just wished that they did that with ALL recycled out dated car models

  • @joshbacon8241

    @joshbacon8241

    9 ай бұрын

    So why didn’t they do that with the other major culprits of outdated car models, like the S15 Silvia, R32 Skyline, etc?

  • @DaSpecialZak

    @DaSpecialZak

    9 ай бұрын

    @@joshbacon8241 probably focused on other things

  • @kotarojujo2737

    @kotarojujo2737

    9 ай бұрын

    @@joshbacon8241 probably hard to find those specific car model to get laser scanned.

  • @XenonArcher

    @XenonArcher

    9 ай бұрын

    @@kotarojujo2737 lol. jimmy oakes has like, 4 s15's. im sure he'd be happy letting turn 10 scan his cars. then you have adam lz who has a very nice r32 skyline. his dad has one too. his friend, tommy i think? imports and restores skylines and has a lot for of R32's etc. many stock too. they really arent hard to find if you know where to look (those guys i mention are in the US too, just like Turn 10). theres a golf r32 that drives around my town too, in the uk though. ive seen quite a few others around the uk too. Turn 10 outsource work to other small studios to laser scan cars. im sure they probably have teams over in europe. and if they dont, they can afford to pay for flights

  • @XenonArcher

    @XenonArcher

    9 ай бұрын

    @@kotarojujo2737 and if you wanna find lots of ae86's, japan or ireland are the places to go. you can find real examples of these cars. they exist in stock conditions. its just clear that turn 10 dont think they need to redo them. that or they dont think its worth spending the money on them

  • @1988DanielJ
    @1988DanielJ9 ай бұрын

    In the USA, companies typically don't listen complaints, unless they get sued.

  • @thomasyip1925

    @thomasyip1925

    9 ай бұрын

    The best solution: File BANKRUPTCY

  • @SilverState99

    @SilverState99

    9 ай бұрын

    Turn 10 is British

  • @XenonArcher

    @XenonArcher

    9 ай бұрын

    @@SilverState99 no, its not. its based in redmond washington for fucks sake. playground games is the studio thats british.... maybe google this before you make yourself look like a muppet

  • @Zaintz1
    @Zaintz19 ай бұрын

    Dunno if you guys noticed it but, remember when the older forza games had their car dash elements light on during ignition along with minor details like the seatbelt indicator chimes for different vehicles. But the new forza titles just outright skipped those, first noticed in fh4 and now in fh5.

  • @olavofernandes7286

    @olavofernandes7286

    9 ай бұрын

    Meanwhile gran turismo 7 has rev limiter sound even 1980 -1990 Japanese safety speed chime sound on 1983 ae86 and nismo r32 gtr and some cars like the corvette has digital display

  • @HyperVanilo

    @HyperVanilo

    9 ай бұрын

    I noticed when I watched a video of Aventador's evolution in racing games, only GT6 and 7 had gear shift animation while other games had no animation

  • @rayjynx

    @rayjynx

    9 ай бұрын

    @@olavofernandes7286 please do not compare gran turismo and forza, being compared to something like forza in terms of details and quality is an insult to gran turismo.

  • @TheWholeGrainBread_Real

    @TheWholeGrainBread_Real

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@olavofernandes7286 ah yes, capping for the joke of a simulator. Grand Turismo has not been good since 4. Stop capping for it.

  • @anakinGTI

    @anakinGTI

    9 ай бұрын

    @@TheWholeGrainBread_Realeven tho gt7 is horrible compared to gt4, gran turismo 7 feels like a love letter to cars, Forza motorsport simply doesn’t

  • @TheGabrielfaro
    @TheGabrielfaro9 ай бұрын

    One thing that bothers me is that for the "1994 Ferrari F355" they use a model with paddle shifters. Which would make it a "1998/1999 Ferrari 355 F1". All pre 1998 f355s are manual... and the ones with paddle shifters do not have the "F" before the 355. I know it's a small detail... but it shows me a lack of care with some of the cars. The first time I took an "f355" for a spin on FM5 back in the day I was really disappointed to see that f1 transmission. But life goes on... At least there is a 355 in the game

  • @MuscleCarLover

    @MuscleCarLover

    9 ай бұрын

    Gran Turismo 7 has some cars with an automatic transmission model on the interior, yet have the gear ratios of their manual counterpart (and of course it's impossible to give them the proper gear ratio with the "fully customisable" gearbox upgrade

  • @noleyestoad4477

    @noleyestoad4477

    9 ай бұрын

    thats not a small detail!

  • @noleyestoad4477

    @noleyestoad4477

    9 ай бұрын

    @@MuscleCarLover false GT7 models are tru to what the cars actually are for the respected date ranges the customizable gear box has nothing to do with the fact that he said the 1994 ferrari didnt have paddle shifter which it doesnt but in the game it does because they werent paying attention to the details the way GT7 does! Forza uses old models that arent even correct at that!

  • @MuscleCarLover

    @MuscleCarLover

    9 ай бұрын

    @@noleyestoad4477 Explain the Plymouth Superbird having the interior of an automatic, but the gear ratios of the 4 speed manual

  • @noleyestoad4477

    @noleyestoad4477

    9 ай бұрын

    @@MuscleCarLover def get what your saying Clearly they are using the gear ratio for the 4 speed manual trans that would come with the car how they were originally manufactured with the nascar 426 Hemi in it! the 3 speed auto Torqueflite 727 was an option that probably wouldnt suit the car for what the game is! not the same as forza using a old models and sticking paddle shifters for different years on the interior vs the traditional manual that was in the 94 F355 the models arent time period correct to the era of the cars in forza thats the difference interior still the same dates on the Charger

  • @MJMoonwalker332
    @MJMoonwalker3329 ай бұрын

    I think they should replace the old models as time goes on in Forza motorsport and also replace the old models in Horizon 5 as long as its still supported

  • @mrtandemslidessbtt

    @mrtandemslidessbtt

    9 ай бұрын

    They should be replaced every generation… there’s no reason not to..

  • @scuffedvanz9411

    @scuffedvanz9411

    9 ай бұрын

    Yea but considering people still play on Xbox One's the new models will make FH5 run worse then it already is for them

  • @Hayden2447

    @Hayden2447

    9 ай бұрын

    @@scuffedvanz9411 But it gets the new cars on there anyway, they can just turn down quality settings for the models like you can on PC anyway.

  • @llmkursk8254

    @llmkursk8254

    9 ай бұрын

    At least a less-expensive rescan/rebuild for FH5 quality. We’re not asking for a pristine model to be pulled out, just some more work and care to be put in.

  • @XenonArcher

    @XenonArcher

    9 ай бұрын

    @@scuffedvanz9411 you can scan a car so its proportions are exact but optimise the model to have similar poly count so the model doesnt drastically effect the performance. main issue with the s15 for me is that its literally not the correct shape

  • @Guiltycircle486
    @Guiltycircle4869 ай бұрын

    This is the maddest I’ve heard Eric and he still sounds professional.

  • @Mr.Meme-HCR2

    @Mr.Meme-HCR2

    9 ай бұрын

    ​​@@anomynous4420Gran Turismo 7 was built from Gran Turismo Sport, still built from the ground up, Forza Motorsport 2023 was just lazily put together.

  • @TheWholeGrainBread_Real

    @TheWholeGrainBread_Real

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@Mr.Meme-HCR2if GT 7 was built from Sport how was it built from ground up? You Ponys love contradicting yourselves.

  • @joaquingonzalez834

    @joaquingonzalez834

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@TheWholeGrainBread_Realbecause sport wasn't built from gt6, the same way gt5 prologue wasn't built off gt4

  • @ethanoshea4102
    @ethanoshea41029 ай бұрын

    The Honda Prelude is the one that gets me. I own one in real life and the headlights and tail lights are wrong. The rear proportions are off and the whole car just doesn't look right. But I still appreciate the fact that my car is in a game 😂 If they do a remodel it should be a JDM type s however

  • @blacksongoku312

    @blacksongoku312

    9 ай бұрын

    Agreed! They need to bring my car, the EG in 😢😢

  • @audi-71830

    @audi-71830

    9 ай бұрын

    the mk5 Prelude? that's a Motorsport 1 model

  • @ethanoshea4102

    @ethanoshea4102

    9 ай бұрын

    @@audi-71830 jesus, that old huh?

  • @ClapperDan

    @ClapperDan

    9 ай бұрын

    Meanwhile I'm still waiting on any Mazda 6 model to make an appearance

  • @audi-71830

    @audi-71830

    9 ай бұрын

    @@ethanoshea4102 yeah, it was smoothened and retextured like 4 times but they never fixed the deformed body

  • @kurok1tenshi
    @kurok1tenshi9 ай бұрын

    "Built from the ground up"....reminds me the other great meme "It just works".

  • @alondite215

    @alondite215

    9 ай бұрын

    Assets aren't part of the game, they're just assets. The game is code. From the ground up = rewritten code. Assets are functionally negative, they're _never_ considered as being meaningful game content.

  • @waketp420

    @waketp420

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@alondite215Stop excusing Playground games' lack of competence. You can code all you want, but what's the point of code if you don't have assets to pair it with? Using 10 year old assets is ridiculous. Using 10 year old assets that still look like shit is even more ridiculous. It's lazy.

  • @waketp420

    @waketp420

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@alondite215And how are assets not considered meaningful when the best games out there get praised for their assets? Sure, graphics aren't everything, and I'm definitely more of a gameplay/performance guy. But I'm not gonna pretend that assets don't matter, because they do.

  • @Tanktaco
    @Tanktaco9 ай бұрын

    You know I'd probably let it slide but you bring up a good point, old outdated models directly conflict with the theme of the new FM's focus. Built and grown in you sweetheart car can feel extra bad if your favorite is clearly sub-par.

  • @BethesdaModder

    @BethesdaModder

    9 ай бұрын

    Also when ur favorite car is the only model they left out, for me it's the 3rd gen MR2, they have the first 2 and then skipped the one I want 🙃

  • @KrashKan

    @KrashKan

    9 ай бұрын

    @@BethesdaModder that and the 2nd gen mr2 model is so atrocious 🤮

  • @XenonArcher

    @XenonArcher

    9 ай бұрын

    @@BethesdaModder thats interesting tbh. the 3rd gen mr2 is very easy to find. here in the uk, you see them relatively often. its the worst one by faaaaaaar for me, but i can see why some like them.

  • @BethesdaModder

    @BethesdaModder

    9 ай бұрын

    @@XenonArcher They definitely need a bodykit to look good lol

  • @BethesdaModder

    @BethesdaModder

    9 ай бұрын

    @@KrashKan yea it looks like a fkn Ford Probe 😅 I ended up just buying the 1st gen MR2 in Forza 8

  • @-Kerman-
    @-Kerman-9 ай бұрын

    you can get very accurate cars with phtoomatching, the problem is thay they eyeballed those models.

  • @Glitchunlocked

    @Glitchunlocked

    9 ай бұрын

    Some of that may have come down to ease of access. The Spec R S15 wasn't exactly common in the US when the car was first added to the game and they may not have had a way to scan it. But, nearly two decades later is long enough that they should have scanned one by now.

  • @rayjynx

    @rayjynx

    9 ай бұрын

    tbh the models were great for their time. but yea, for their time. not anymore. they already got outdated a decade back.

  • @stancedstyfon1234
    @stancedstyfon12349 ай бұрын

    6 years to remodel a car vs gran turismo remodeling their cars very often...it sounds like absolute laziness

  • @ronny12tech

    @ronny12tech

    9 ай бұрын

    Money grabbing and poor commitment

  • @Theferrariguy

    @Theferrariguy

    9 ай бұрын

    I agree, I mean if they did it overtime would be great. Or even not include the car at launch but change the car models and release them for the weekly seasonal events that they do for horizon. That being GT7 developers spend up to 6 months designing a car

  • @stigrabbid589

    @stigrabbid589

    9 ай бұрын

    Gran Turismo remodeling cars often? 🤣 They reused GT4 and GT PSP models in GT5 and 6, which were terrible looking in comparison to the new models PD made for those games, at least the ones in Forza don't look like low poly messes.

  • @taransandhu471

    @taransandhu471

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@stigrabbid589 true but you gotta admit 6 years is a pretty shit turnaround

  • @Theferrariguy

    @Theferrariguy

    9 ай бұрын

    @@taransandhu471 not to mention they did every single car between gt6 and gt sport.

  • @BG20945
    @BG209459 ай бұрын

    Atleast they updated the 22b😭😭

  • @simplevoicereviewssvr6418

    @simplevoicereviewssvr6418

    9 ай бұрын

    They did .....

  • @olavofernandes7286

    @olavofernandes7286

    9 ай бұрын

    Still not level of polyphony digital version of the 22b but it's nice t10 improved on subaru 22b finally

  • @spl327jpn

    @spl327jpn

    9 ай бұрын

    @@olavofernandes7286 As for the model, I don't think it is possible to catch up with GT7. But I would like to see it catch up to the level of NFS at least.

  • @xxlaflamexx237
    @xxlaflamexx2379 ай бұрын

    The r34 needs to be re done too the nismo front bumper looks horrendous

  • @TK-B200

    @TK-B200

    9 ай бұрын

    The whole thing it’s wrong tbh, the headlights are straight up horrendous not even close, quarter panels and side skirts are quite different on the real thing, rear end also looks off in lots of angles

  • @StuffedUpSlime

    @StuffedUpSlime

    9 ай бұрын

    @@TK-B200 the r34 was laser scanned and remodelled in fm5.

  • @Andisale

    @Andisale

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@StuffedUpSlimeIt's not. R34's body didn't change since 360 era.

  • @TheJines123

    @TheJines123

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@StuffedUpSlime That has been 10 years! 10 years! It's bad. Its all bad lol.

  • @TK-B200

    @TK-B200

    9 ай бұрын

    @@StuffedUpSlime it was updated model, they definitely didn’t start from scratch, the whole model needs to be scrapped, take a look at the GT or nfs model, it’s 20 times more accurate

  • @MoJo-2977
    @MoJo-29779 ай бұрын

    You didn’t mention the 2007 997 GT3 and the V12 Vanquish that returned to FM with their old form, sadly

  • @audi-71830

    @audi-71830

    9 ай бұрын

    as well as the Mitsubishi FTO and the Dodge Stealth they had 12 years to scan them all

  • @clumsygarage1578
    @clumsygarage15789 ай бұрын

    I will use this as an opportunity to complain about how all the tire textures are still the same as FM5 and they really don't look great if you look closely.

  • @audi-71830

    @audi-71830

    9 ай бұрын

    FM5 tire textures were much better than this, the current ones were introduced in FM6 or FH3

  • @suizided
    @suizided9 ай бұрын

    Didn't they say they are building everything from ground up? From scratch? Yeah we know they be lying when we saw the Forza spoilers...

  • @KikuraKun

    @KikuraKun

    9 ай бұрын

    That MX-5 from the trailer is too blatant. Then, the Evo V made it worse.

  • @hybridAbsol

    @hybridAbsol

    9 ай бұрын

    Turn10: ✌🏻😎

  • @alondite215

    @alondite215

    9 ай бұрын

    Doesn't apply to assets because they aren't functional game elements. Ground Up = Code. The code _is_ the game and defines everything the game does and how it does it. Assets just exist on the screen and don't matter.

  • @KikuraKun

    @KikuraKun

    9 ай бұрын

    @@alondite215 You're missing something. They said "everything".

  • @waketp420

    @waketp420

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@alondite215Digging deep for the cope

  • @kerrinmarr9204
    @kerrinmarr92049 ай бұрын

    Now on to the 8th Motorsport and we still don't have wheel spacers or changeable exhaust tips. GT7's upgrades just wipe the floor with this game.

  • @Rob-gs8lq

    @Rob-gs8lq

    9 ай бұрын

    You lose all credibility as soon as you mention GT7, game looks like crap.

  • @popsandbangs8858

    @popsandbangs8858

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Rob-gs8lqgt7 on ps4 looks better than series s forza motorsport

  • @JS-rm5qx

    @JS-rm5qx

    9 ай бұрын

    crazy part is horizon has those features

  • @Ward413

    @Ward413

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Rob-gs8lqGT7 can look dull, no doubt, but to say it “looks like crap” just makes you look like an Xbox fanboy. And you have the audacity to talk about credibility? Come on bro, get real. OP didn’t even mention graphics as he was talking about upgrades. Don’t get me wrong, I have my issues with GT7 as they also reuse some car models/interiors from the previous GT Sport which really looks subpar at 4K. Also their UX is complete dog shit, having to press X literally fifteen times just to get back to the main menu but I’ve only ever seen Xbox Fanboys pretend it’s the worst looking game ever and those are usually the mouth breathers who’ve never even played it. They usually base their opinion on Xbox focused channels that cherry pic the least flattering screenshots or videos to represent all of GT7. It’s worth remembering that GT7 goes with an unsaturated photorealistic look so it can look dull sometimes under certain conditions and on certain tracks at certain times of day. But the same cannot be said about the cars as they still shit on Forza’s models. GT7 simulates each coat of paint, down to the clear coat. Also, compare Forza interiors to even GT Sport interiors from PS4 era and it’s not even close - GT has way more attention to detail. Forza uses simplified models and textures to represent materials in an interior while GT7 and even GT Sport are sometimes indistinguishable from a real photo.

  • @HDMISWAN

    @HDMISWAN

    9 ай бұрын

    I have played forza for a long while and I can’t lie even though gt7 may look slightly graphically worse, it does have more content and devs that listen to their community. In my opinion forza is getting very repetitive and the developers are being very lazy with their content and community. Look at the Horizon series it’s just reused cars with a new map. 6 years to say that this new motorsport has been “built from the ground up” when all that has changed is the physics engine. I mean what are these devs doing😂, let’s just hope solar crown lives up to the hype.

  • @martinpatterson9015
    @martinpatterson90159 ай бұрын

    The New Motorsport is such a Massive Disappointment 😞

  • @carreviewer6345

    @carreviewer6345

    9 ай бұрын

    I expected this

  • @Larssema

    @Larssema

    9 ай бұрын

    Only the graphics are a solid upgrade, i cant tell anything better, to say it that way

  • @MattAutoMotive

    @MattAutoMotive

    9 ай бұрын

    Compared to Horizon 5 definitely ever since the switch back in 2020 (I think) where Horizon went first then Motorsport it gave Playground Games a big favour and Horizon no longer has the short end of the stick but now Motorsport has the short end of the stick and as a result it didn't gain Turn 10 any favours and if anything Motorsport seems like such a downgrade in comparison to Horizon 5, it's only got improved graphics, wheels and tyres physics and online system going for it. As a result Horizon 5 seems more of a next gen game. Turn 10 has a lot of catching up to do but they better hurry and deliver as the hype won't last long, because of the lack of features that it's missing from Horizon the hype I bet would only last 5 months if that. Everyone thought they would leave Horizon 5 and go on to Motorsport heck even I was going to play Horizon less (disbite the fact I have nothing wrong with FH5) but nope I'm stay with Horizon.

  • @nightmareedge657

    @nightmareedge657

    9 ай бұрын

    Your opinion means nothing little man.

  • @JJsGA

    @JJsGA

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@Larssemaidk about just the graphics....it was a step backwards to use TAA vs MSAA. TAA has ghosting and muddies texture detail. However the general consensus is that the handling physics are far better and the multi-player is great. The biggest issue EVERYONE seems to have with the game is the upgrade/leveling system.

  • @Ampelfreund
    @Ampelfreund9 ай бұрын

    I compared over 30 models in GT7 and FM. I was shocked what I saw in the new FM.

  • @kristiansand2480

    @kristiansand2480

    9 ай бұрын

    Elaborate.

  • @mondo9.2.5

    @mondo9.2.5

    9 ай бұрын

    different games NO SHIT BOZO

  • @XenonArcher

    @XenonArcher

    9 ай бұрын

    @@kristiansand2480 well, the only one ive really compared is the current bmw supra :V im not sure why but certain details are a little off in the forza variant. maybe its just the lighting though? but take the rear window. the supra has quite a large area around the window thats black. in forza, for some reason this area is matte? in gt the whole glass piece is reflective, as it should be

  • @Kryptix0III
    @Kryptix0III9 ай бұрын

    Gran Turismo 7's car models are so far ahead it's actually depressing

  • @existentialselkath1264
    @existentialselkath12649 ай бұрын

    This has been fairly common knowledge for a while now but it's great to see a comprehensive and we'll researched video from a known creator about it. In my opinion, they should remodel the oldest models first and use it as an excuse to highlight them as spotlight cars every month or two. Then, when they get up to the laser scanning era, it'd be nice to see remodelled lights but the bodywork is already more than good enough, though I doubt they'll get that far.

  • @kotarojujo2737
    @kotarojujo27378 ай бұрын

    Actually in fm3 and fm4, most of small or subcompact cars were laser scanned. Its sad they can't pull effort like that anymore.

  • @john7156
    @john71569 ай бұрын

    In the latest Forza Horizon 5 livestream, the developers at Playground Games mentioned that they wanted to scan a Nissan Tsuru but it was difficult to find one that is in immaculate condition as the Tsuru is used as taxis and everyday commuter cars in Mexico. The developers eventually found one that was in good condition to scan. Perhaps some of these outdated car models in the new Forza Motorsport will be updated eventually once the developers can find an immaculate car without any modifications or damage. Cars like the R32 Skyline and E46 M3 are popular tuner cars and it is becoming increasingly rare to find one in good condition without any modifications. At least the Subaru 22B is updated.

  • @Cuhh346

    @Cuhh346

    9 ай бұрын

    Nissan has plenty of unmodified cars at the omori nismo factory they could literally scan every important nissan there

  • @TheSuitMusicOfficial

    @TheSuitMusicOfficial

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@Cuhh346 It costs money that Forza probably doesn't want to spend. You can't just bring scanning equipment and a whole crew of people to Japan for free. Also have to worry about housing these people, and food. It's money Forza has, but if they did it for every wrong car, they'll be bankrupt. It's better to just let it be.

  • @xXturbo86Xx

    @xXturbo86Xx

    9 ай бұрын

    It's bullshit. Even if you can't find one to scan, you can create one from scratch. But you see, these scumbags not only didn't bother to create anything new, but not even to update the really really old models. The new "new" stuff this FM has were imported directly from Horizon. This FM is nothing but a scam.

  • @EpicSaltyBoii

    @EpicSaltyBoii

    9 ай бұрын

    @@TheSuitMusicOfficialOr they can just reduce the car list… Who wants 600+ cars you can’t even upgrade because of their car level system

  • @Cuhh346

    @Cuhh346

    9 ай бұрын

    @@KasperK-nj5lq they already have, they scanned the coke bluebird and tomica skyline both super silhouette both which nissan has in their museum

  • @michaelhamilton4133
    @michaelhamilton41339 ай бұрын

    5:27 actually so embarrassing that I thought this was captured from FM4, not FM8…. Shows just how bad and outdated some of the models look, like literally almost worse than some of the ones in Motorsport 4 💀

  • @71Chevelle1989
    @71Chevelle19899 ай бұрын

    I stopped giving Turn10 my money a long time ago. 1-4 are it, the franchise went to hell since. Makes me super sad thinking back how much fun everything was.

  • @Homerboy44

    @Homerboy44

    9 ай бұрын

    Just play another racing franchise. It doesn't have to be sim-based if your bar is this low for it.

  • @Juanguar

    @Juanguar

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Homerboy44the only franchise that is close to Forza is gran turismo And it’s not doing too well nowadays as well Not to mention he’ll have to buy a whole new console just for it It’s not worth it

  • @olavofernandes7286

    @olavofernandes7286

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@Juanguar actually it's doing much well just that it's features will be improved as monthly updates comes not to mention new Sony x polyphony digital ai called sophy being implemented

  • @noleyestoad4477

    @noleyestoad4477

    9 ай бұрын

    I agree the first 4 were car game heaven 3 and 4 were my favs but after that it died! this feels like they just used FH5 as the games base! the game is not new and built from the ground up!

  • @e-money9251

    @e-money9251

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Homerboy44the thing is though, the arcade racing is even worse. Aside from forza horizon and NFS as well as the crew, what else is there? We no longer have burnout, midnight club, ridge racer, motorstorm, blur, split second etc

  • @ransomsdp
    @ransomsdp9 ай бұрын

    There should be suit and helmet customisation like GT7

  • @gabrielsobrosa
    @gabrielsobrosa9 ай бұрын

    This is the more completed video about Forza's car models that i ever seen. Great video!

  • @sandorbence2067
    @sandorbence20679 ай бұрын

    I think this is one aspect where competing racing titles/studios should work together and share scanned cars models with each other. It wouldn't make the individual games less compatetitive and other than the potential licensing issues it shouldn't be that complicated.

  • @noleyestoad4477

    @noleyestoad4477

    9 ай бұрын

    cant really do that when different devs in these studios arent running there games on the same engines GT series Forza ACC etc. are all run on different engines this is why the cars look different across the titles! Forza uses old models and half of them arent accurate anyway

  • @sandorbence2067

    @sandorbence2067

    9 ай бұрын

    @@noleyestoad4477 I'd imagine that the scanned models follow the same format. Then it's up to the devs how they implement it.

  • @HelloDocMode

    @HelloDocMode

    9 ай бұрын

    Facts. I think as a collective, that these companies need to try to scan as many vehicles as possible for not only gaming but also rendering and historical significance

  • @noleyestoad4477

    @noleyestoad4477

    9 ай бұрын

    @@HelloDocMode I just don't understand how they've gotten it wrong so many releases! they honestly dont care!

  • @crroos1196

    @crroos1196

    9 ай бұрын

    Dude, unfortunely they can't share Car models scanns, Car Manufactures had Fees (licensed cars) for only individual dev studio permision to scanning whole new and old models, so, if some dev studio pays money for scanning some cars, they won't share, not for the money but yes for some legal dispositions, its imposibble for the devs to have a "Scanned cars models" Library fot the previos reasons

  • @Zerofightervi
    @Zerofightervi9 ай бұрын

    Basically, redo the whole JDM catalog. Another one that slipped the net until recently was the Ferrari F50, the rear wheels are concaved on the real car & yet in Forza they were the same design as the front wheels. This was only recently changed, however if you watch the wheels spin they will transition to the incorrect design when the car is underway. Not good enough.

  • @joshbacon8241
    @joshbacon82419 ай бұрын

    If they were able to fix the textures of the Subaru 22B for the new Forza Motorsport, why couldn’t they do the same thing for the other major culprits of outdated car models, like the S15 Silvia, R32 Skyline GT-R, etc?

  • @LevyGamingProductions2024
    @LevyGamingProductions20249 ай бұрын

    Well that’s weird that things got recycled already!

  • @alondite215

    @alondite215

    9 ай бұрын

    How is it weird? It's standard practice to reuse assets as much as possible in game development because it's smarter, more efficient development that makes better use of resources. And also because art assets don't matter, and having reused assets doesn't make the game play any different, which is the only thing that matters.

  • @channe3049

    @channe3049

    9 ай бұрын

    ​​@@alondite215Then why would they really bother and keep using the heavy emphasis "Built from the ground-up" if the game is almost the same as a game from 2014?

  • @LevyGamingProductions2024

    @LevyGamingProductions2024

    9 ай бұрын

    @@channe3049 That’s what I’m asking.

  • @alondite215

    @alondite215

    9 ай бұрын

    @@channe3049 How is it almost the same game when the physics model is completely new? The game is what you _play_ not what is on the screen.

  • @noleyestoad4477

    @noleyestoad4477

    9 ай бұрын

    @@alondite215 its not tho! game feel like a mix between Horizon and motorsport its to arcadey!

  • @CRMotorsportTeam
    @CRMotorsportTeam9 ай бұрын

    I own irl VW Golf 1, 2, 3, 4 and they are all off in the game. Even the newest addition of the MK1 for example has wrong factory colours and is completely missing the fact, that a couple colours are for the full body WITH all the plastic parts like the bumpers and it's famous Pirelli rims are bad modelled too. For the MK2, the hood is since FM2 days incorrect. The BBS RM factory rims are not even close to the real rims, the rear wiper still is in wrong "off" position and the car still comes in-game with an aftermarket exhaust tip which doesn't exist for the stock version of the car! The MK3 is in general completely off to it's real counterpart for the whole body. And about the MK4 we already talked about the bad model shape of it's body too. And it's even more worse, that these cars have even more issues now. For example the speedometer in the MK2 stucks at 160km/h now and it's 16V plate in the front grill is silver instead of red. Two accurate things the last 16 years are wrong now..

  • @BODEGAtrashofficial
    @BODEGAtrashofficial9 ай бұрын

    Unrelated but just noticed on the Kyalami loading Screen for Forza GT, you can very clearly see the McLaren 720S GT3. Leaked a little early.

  • @RandomCommenter-qu2oc

    @RandomCommenter-qu2oc

    9 ай бұрын

    At least that’s one up to date GT that isn’t locked behind a paywall hopefully

  • @pokewheels
    @pokewheels9 ай бұрын

    I'm so glad you've made this video been waiting since early access thank you eric

  • @Cristian121212100
    @Cristian1212121009 ай бұрын

    This is why GT7 has such a small list of cars, Quality over Quantity.

  • @pccc5431
    @pccc54319 ай бұрын

    I think the only great thing from motorsport rn is the fact you can get the e-ray for free by playing it, and then just going back to the horizon series, hopefully they fix the game through updates later on, like seriously, the graphics are mostly inconsistent

  • @martinpatterson9015
    @martinpatterson90159 ай бұрын

    And Customisation options as Well

  • @CrashBandiii

    @CrashBandiii

    9 ай бұрын

    Even polyphony did a better job of car customizing

  • @sw20vp

    @sw20vp

    9 ай бұрын

    @@CrashBandiii’even’ 😭

  • @martinpatterson9015

    @martinpatterson9015

    9 ай бұрын

    Even Car Mechanic Simulator 21 did a Better Job at Modelling the S15 Slivia than Forza lol

  • @MuscleCarLover
    @MuscleCarLover9 ай бұрын

    Anyone else noticed that at some point the front bumper of the AE86 lost its two tone? It was there in the earlier games and completely missing nowadays

  • @SilverStormShadow
    @SilverStormShadow6 ай бұрын

    As someone who primarily plays Gran Turismo, I wouldn't mind at all if they reused some models from GT6 in GT7. It would mean we'd get more cars more often. The issue I have with Forza is that they marketed this game as "From the ground up" implying things would be new. Again, I wouldn't mind good models from Forza 6,7 or even 5 honestly being reused, but when you have models for cars that are nearly 2 decades old in your from the ground up experience, it feels really out of place, and a little bit like false advertising.

  • @PlaidZoomer
    @PlaidZoomer9 ай бұрын

    There is also no auction house 😑

  • @BG20945

    @BG20945

    9 ай бұрын

    Good

  • @MJMoonwalker332

    @MJMoonwalker332

    9 ай бұрын

    Seriously? A staple of the forza series? I barely use it in Horizon 5 but it's good for those who want to buy expensive cars cheaper

  • @BG20945

    @BG20945

    9 ай бұрын

    @tre3612 yea rlly, now randoms cant sell 400k cars for 20mill

  • @jasonanderson5034

    @jasonanderson5034

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@tre3612 IT IS FULLY RELEASED IF U CAN PAY 100 DOLLARS OR WHATEVER AND PLAY THE GAME. THE OFFICIAL RELEASE DATE JUST SERVES AS A PESUSDO RELEASE. SO THEY CAN UPSELL EARLY ACESS .

  • @PlaidZoomer

    @PlaidZoomer

    9 ай бұрын

    @@MJMoonwalker332 Yeah, It sucks.I made Most of my money in FH5 in the auction house. Im sure there will be rare seasonal forzathon cars you will not be able to get is you miss your chance

  • @UKman945
    @UKman9459 ай бұрын

    Honestly it's weird the Eight-Six is so unloved like they always put it out as a reward and it fetches stupid prices on auction when it's out of season you'd think they'd put some care into updating it

  • @kelvjr8588
    @kelvjr85889 ай бұрын

    Any car that doesn’t let you open the hood/bonnet and trunk/boot are outdated models. There’s quite a few of them too.

  • @pspcow
    @pspcow9 ай бұрын

    Its hard to find some of these cars, and as time goes on and they naturally get older, there will be fewer and fewer

  • @Ametisti
    @Ametisti9 ай бұрын

    I'd be concerned if they DO update some of the cars, that they'd remove custom aero bits and bobs when they do it. Not enough cars have those available :(

  • @user-nj6bt5gy4s
    @user-nj6bt5gy4s9 ай бұрын

    I still find Jeremy Clarkson narrating Auto Vista crazy to this day and the idea to include him in the game is one of the best things the forza series has ever done.

  • @tarranelsey1055
    @tarranelsey10559 ай бұрын

    The Golf V R32 I would love to see be remodelled and introduced in the new Forza motorsport

  • @lyndoncobb7077
    @lyndoncobb70779 ай бұрын

    Lets just hope the team over at turn10 gives us monthly good updates that fixes some of the games issues kinda like what horizon was doing

  • @bigguy4u989
    @bigguy4u9899 ай бұрын

    the LOD is shockingly low especially for car interiors. The lighting is pretty bad as well. Can't believe this is a 2023 game

  • @stevereynolds821
    @stevereynolds8219 ай бұрын

    Well, I mentioned it in your last video and I'm mentioning it again! There are several classic american cars that are still the F'd up models from the FM1 as well like the disproportionate '69 Camaro and ,'70 Challenger. Maybe give the classic muscle car some respect too and mention them in your vids?

  • @One21P
    @One21P9 ай бұрын

    There are new portable laser scanners to 3D. I have not heard any new ways the make tracks and cars since Forza Motorsport 5.

  • @Unprotected1232
    @Unprotected12329 ай бұрын

    Were there no alarms going on inside Microsoft and it's Studios? This launch has been very rough.

  • @KonnorMcCoy
    @KonnorMcCoy9 ай бұрын

    They also need to fix some car sounds, especially the rotary’s.

  • @XxWolfman5584xX
    @XxWolfman5584xX9 ай бұрын

    The only way this game will even catch my interest is if It has NASCAR not just tracks and a couple of cars from one driver but at least half the field and even some historic cars and models that were used in NASCAR Pettys Superbird, Earnhardts Monte Carlo etc

  • @jasonanderson5034

    @jasonanderson5034

    9 ай бұрын

    are u paying the licensing fees

  • @N7RiZe
    @N7RiZe9 ай бұрын

    Forza still greatly lacks in quality from a professional standpoint. Interiors on pretty much all cars are quite lacking, I've seen fonts and textures that are clearly incorrect but the main thing is that polygon counts are low considering the advance in hardware in the past 10 years. In interviews for FM 2023, they literally stated that all cars will use the same type of materials, and if the community tells them something is wrong, they'll update it (not a clue if they actually do). Try looking at a few cars and see if materials and textures like leather or alcantara look the same. The next point is car lights, does Turn10 have any idea what light refraction is? It's like glass doesn't exist in the forza engine. Car paints are just generic and even feel like a step back from the XB1 games. I'd also like to comment that implying 3D photo matching is outdated is wrong. As far as I'm aware, that's the best way to check for inaccuracies and still great for scratch modeling. As for the old gen models, they were made inaccurately because of the developers lacking the necessary skills or talent, not because of the technology. Have a look back in FM7 and FH4/5 at cars that were not seen since FM4, there’s a lot of inconsistency. You also might want to think about cars from Gran Turismo 5 and 6 are considerably higher in detail despite being the same age as the older Forza Motorsports (GT has it’s problems but polygon count, paints, glass and overall accuracy is far higher even on the X360/PS3 gen).

  • @Airwolf2030
    @Airwolf20309 ай бұрын

    I do agreed the models needed to be updated but at the same time it doesn't bother me that much, also it's worse when GT series copy and paste old car models (maps too maybe) from the PS1/PS2/PSP era called as "standard cars" to their latest game and it sticks out like a sore thumb but not sure if they still do it on GT7 though

  • @olavofernandes7286

    @olavofernandes7286

    9 ай бұрын

    Those port car model are from gran turismo 4 used in both gran turismo 5 and 6 due to hardware limitation at the time meanwhile gran turismo sport and gran turismo 7 all car models are built from scratch

  • @andreasmoller9798

    @andreasmoller9798

    9 ай бұрын

    At least gt5 and gt6 marked them as standard cars and they was still more accurate that some of forza car models ever since gt sport all car models is made from scratch they have much better car models than fm

  • @anthonyduffy6953
    @anthonyduffy69539 ай бұрын

    Built from the ground up.........12 years ago

  • @SkyyMi
    @SkyyMi9 ай бұрын

    Thank you for making this.

  • @nenthal1761
    @nenthal17619 ай бұрын

    I think it likely took so long to get the 22b updated model, because of how extremely rare they are… there were only roughly 450 made. Hopefully they get the r32, s15 etc sorted soon, they shouldn’t take nearly as long

  • @CycolacFan

    @CycolacFan

    9 ай бұрын

    Hard to believe Subaru doesn’t have one tucked away in a museum collection, along with factory blueprints.

  • @waketp420

    @waketp420

    9 ай бұрын

    Still inexcusable in my opinion when Playground games is making millions off microtransactions, and have the backing of a 2.5 trillion dollar company.

  • @e-money9251

    @e-money9251

    9 ай бұрын

    @@waketp420correction, this is made by turn 10 studio. Your point still stands though

  • @waketp420

    @waketp420

    9 ай бұрын

    @@e-money9251 Thanks. Playground not innocent either though. They've been reusing assets too. Maybe not as extensive, but they said they got all new engine/exhaust sounds for Horizon 5, but they're all the same sound files from previous entries. Like.... why lie?

  • @jjay350

    @jjay350

    9 ай бұрын

    They have cars like the 250 GTO, which is far more rare. That is no excuse.

  • @aaaaplay
    @aaaaplay9 ай бұрын

    I noticed that the Mk4 Golf in Horizon 5 looks very poorly proportioned. But then DLC cars like the 2020 Audi S3 look spectacular. Also for a few versions the 2013 Ford Focus ST has driver side window switches on both sides of the car. I'd like to see Forza do something with the infotainment screens like Test Drive Unlimited where they display mapping. Also all the in car clocks are stuck at 12:00 pm on FH5. I'd also like to see some effort going into localising some of the traffic in Horizon. They've been using the same euro spec Ford Fiesta, Ford Transit and BMW X5 for so long. I mean just recycle old Forza models for the traffic and localise it. Only the original Forza Horizon had traffic specifications models like the Toyota Camry.

  • @buss1205

    @buss1205

    9 ай бұрын

    Test Drive Unlimited was so insanely ahead of its time

  • @littleAE86thatcould
    @littleAE86thatcould9 ай бұрын

    (havent even started watching the video yet) I thank you for making a video about this. I've been saying this since Forza Motorsport 2.

  • @thephrontist93
    @thephrontist939 ай бұрын

    I think it would also be helpful is the devs, during one of the Let's Go live streams, went into depth about how they capture and render these cars and the time it takes. I don't feel like the gaming community (myself included) fully appreciates they time and effort it takes to do this.

  • @Glitchunlocked

    @Glitchunlocked

    9 ай бұрын

    Eh, it's not that we don't appreciate it, it's that they've had nearly two decades to scan or rescan some of these cars and it's clearly something they don't care about which is why we're so frustrated by it.

  • @thephrontist93

    @thephrontist93

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Glitchunlocked Agreed. They definitely prioritized some cars over others, and why they didn't prioritize the classics. My original comment was referring to the game in general--I should've specified.

  • @Sandalphon36
    @Sandalphon369 ай бұрын

    Now I will play a bit of devil's advocate here and say that some of these cars like the R32 are nearly impossible to find stock and have the owner allow the car to be laser scanned.

  • @rayjynx

    @rayjynx

    9 ай бұрын

    I'd assume it's not that impossible for a company like turn10 to finance something like that. plus they can always rely on photomatching to model and get some people to spend a lot of time on models like those, if gran turismo can do it, why not forza?

  • @Sandalphon36

    @Sandalphon36

    8 ай бұрын

    @@rayjynx The thing is photomatching doesn't hold up anymore. Those old models were made like that. Gran Turismo also has a problem with old car models (with GT5 being the most obvious as most cars were from GT3/4) it's just the heavier use of PBR along with extremely good quality textures that make them look far better. For an example of finding stock cars being hard, they couldn't get a stock FD RX-7, the one that they used didn't have a wing.

  • @halo56822
    @halo568229 ай бұрын

    the e46 m3 model looks kinda old. doesnt allow hood to be opened. that means its old right? the sound also is a bit off.

  • @BMWZEPHYR
    @BMWZEPHYR9 ай бұрын

    No one picks up on the fact that Ubisoft use models from the crew 1 still, i have big issues with how digital gauge clusters are animated and also how the agera R has a very very bad model.

  • @jasonanderson5034

    @jasonanderson5034

    9 ай бұрын

    their paid shills or man children that cant even enjoy a simcade they need horrible driving physics and a full out arcade game to enjoy it motorfest is crap online is crap the campaign is crap . the driving physics are crap . breaking properly is basically apunishment in motorfest . its also kinda sus its named motorfes and its releasing just before motorsport . thats what knock off companies do to try and trick people who dont know beter into thinking their getting something their not like a family member buying a child game for example

  • @RandomCommenter-qu2oc

    @RandomCommenter-qu2oc

    9 ай бұрын

    Bc the Crew 3 didn’t promise uncompromising quality.

  • @waketp420

    @waketp420

    9 ай бұрын

    The Crew didn't say "built from the ground up. And besides, the Crew isn't even a good franchise.

  • @michaelw6277
    @michaelw62779 ай бұрын

    Most annoying of all is the stupid modified wing they’ve chosen to continue to use. Would it really be so hard to update that one thing?

  • @shadowchrome_
    @shadowchrome_9 ай бұрын

    reminds me of GT6 when half the car list was upscaled PS2 models😂

  • @jjay350

    @jjay350

    9 ай бұрын

    That's more so GT5, GT6 did a better job of having car models remodeled, but there was still some PS2 models without interiors.

  • @GreenMan1986x
    @GreenMan1986x9 ай бұрын

    Check out the dash of the Mercury #15 Whistler Radar Cougar XR-7 while racing. The gauges are blurry. I've seen this with another car too. Playing on Series X.

  • @KamDaOrcuh
    @KamDaOrcuh9 ай бұрын

    Heh. "built from the ground up" At this point, this should be a meme.

  • @KurumaDesigns
    @KurumaDesigns9 ай бұрын

    I didn’t know the 22b was remodeled, that’s a nice surprise! I’m thoroughly enjoying the game, but it is a shame that some car models still look wonky. I think some cars like the R32 GTR looks much better than in FH5 with the new textures, but obviously the model itself still looks bad.

  • @noleyestoad4477

    @noleyestoad4477

    9 ай бұрын

    yall happy about one car they had 6yrs to do the whole game CTFU! people cant be this slow!

  • @Kev27RS

    @Kev27RS

    9 ай бұрын

    The Golf R32 mk4 is one of the worst looking ones! Especially the rear…

  • @toypop96

    @toypop96

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Kev27RSThe Mk4 R32 is weird, because they took the time to remodel the front properly when FM5 came out, but left the rest of the car exactly the same.

  • @Kev27RS

    @Kev27RS

    9 ай бұрын

    @@toypop96 Such a mess…

  • @Xeraser2
    @Xeraser29 ай бұрын

    What's the problem here? No one complained anywhere near as loudly when GT5 and GT6 reused the abysmal GT3/4/GTPSP models, lied about updating more cars to premium status in GT5 (it only happened for 1 DLC car) and only did the bare minimum post-launch (just textures more often than not) for GT6. The old Forza models still look high quality enough.

  • @CRMotorsportTeam
    @CRMotorsportTeam9 ай бұрын

    It's a shame to have so many visual bugs in the game rn on cars or aftermarket wheels we haven't had before in the older games! Graphics and most important the physics are great and the game feels really good with wheels to drive too, sad this is a bit overshadowed by all the bugs we have to start with.. 😢

  • @flufychickens

    @flufychickens

    9 ай бұрын

    Honestly the hate for this game is greatly exaggerated. People will find the smalleat things and make it seem like ita game breaking. Not saying the gamenis perfect, but not near as terrible as some people claim

  • @BrendanAnderson-fw9ie

    @BrendanAnderson-fw9ie

    9 ай бұрын

    What bugs have you experienced :/ I havent had a issue at all yet lol

  • @CRMotorsportTeam

    @CRMotorsportTeam

    9 ай бұрын

    Here a few: You can't change the colour for most of the stock rims and many aftermarket rims because most of the time they stay silver or have a really weird silverish-touch in the colour you choose. Race rear bumper on the Porsche 3.3 Turbo removes the bumper I to a black whole. VW Golf MK2 speedometer stucks at 160km/h. Sometimes the wheel doesn't disappear in dashboard view. If you have man vinyl groups saved (and I have a lot as a replica painter) the mini preview photo by clicking through the vinyl groups isn't loading anymore. Most of the race cars have many parts you can choose to paint on for the basic body colour change but nothing happens (most likely mirrors and spoilers). If your car is base colour chrome the paint job turns matte on it. Same for base colour carbon but here the paint job turn metallic for some reason. If you change fast between engine swaps the game loads the wrong sound file. Saved replays of online races don't work. On the Cayman GTS the race cage removes the cars body shape in cockpit view. Many matte plastic parts on older cars reflect like they were glossy. The driving assist with supported steering wheel doesn't work if you plug in a steering wheel in the console. Saw a game clip at night time where the car's headlights were on but they haven't light up the track (don't remember the car model sadly). And the list is so much longer if you start to look on 3d model issues for missing parts, miscoloured parts, removed details etc of cars now which haven't had these issues in FM7 or FH5.

  • @RileyNewcomb
    @RileyNewcomb9 ай бұрын

    But they couldn’t put the Lexus ISF back in… so sad, it was in horizon 4

  • @TinyBearTim
    @TinyBearTim9 ай бұрын

    And we still can’t have control over active aero like if I don’t want it up or want it to be on max constantly why can’t i

  • @noset6434
    @noset64349 ай бұрын

    Cant wait to play this game, looks like a fun game

  • @DangerAngelous
    @DangerAngelous9 ай бұрын

    Both of the 2000s Monaros as well right? the funky rear ends on those

  • @babbleoop8805
    @babbleoop88059 ай бұрын

    Seems like the first update made huge improvements with the upgrade system, most upgrades are unlocked around level 20-25 instead of 40

  • @haroldflower8008

    @haroldflower8008

    9 ай бұрын

    still wish there was an option to pay cash for parts. having to grind for xp and do pointless practice sessions because my car isn't fast enough is kinda stupid. i understand the sentiment but it just makes it not as fun to play

  • @tylerfaubert1201
    @tylerfaubert12019 ай бұрын

    I honestly only do the monthly updates in FH5 in hopes that they bring back my dream car, a 1957 Ford Thunderbird

  • @BassCannon420
    @BassCannon4209 ай бұрын

    The rear-view mirror looks better quality on Forza Motorsport 4 then it does in this game hopefully that's just a bug.

  • @SgtSnazzerino
    @SgtSnazzerino9 ай бұрын

    Gran Turismo 5: First time? Fr the newest FM I own is FM4. I still out here playing FM2 lol

  • @nickblood7080
    @nickblood70809 ай бұрын

    They should have also had full interiors for all the cars in this game so that when you look around and behind you you see the interior but nope.

  • @XR4turbo
    @XR4turbo9 ай бұрын

    The Countach drives me nuts. And the FD RX7 where the tach needle is longer than the scale. Honestly theres a lot...

  • @blacksongoku312
    @blacksongoku3129 ай бұрын

    Community: "This is 2023! Why are y'all using models from 20 years ago??" Devs: **Steve James meme**

  • @ethanmckibbin
    @ethanmckibbin9 ай бұрын

    6 years and we got less tracks than in motorsport 7, pretty embarrassing.

  • @JibRule
    @JibRule9 ай бұрын

    I’m still buying it when get low on sale because it’s a f1 22 situation

  • @charliereg7221
    @charliereg72219 ай бұрын

    They focused all on simulation, interiors and sounds are pretty inovative, has potential if they add the missing content

  • @richardmcgowan1651
    @richardmcgowan16519 ай бұрын

    Its clear its a "live service game" and they will release stuff as DLC packs or update models if and when they make money off the game. If the game flops they will dump it and move development teams onto the next FH game.

  • @bavarianbanshee
    @bavarianbanshee9 ай бұрын

    "I don't expect every car to be remodeled all the time" Gran Turismo: *Allow me to introduce myself*

  • @Arexion5293
    @Arexion52939 ай бұрын

    The Evo VI from the trailer still baffles me. Why would you make a trailer for a new upcoming game and make the camera zoom in on an extremely outdated car model like it's a feature? I was expecting this to build up towards something, but it seems like it went nowhere. Maybe a future update will come with a new car model.. hopefully.

  • @ImadHadjersi
    @ImadHadjersi9 ай бұрын

    It's sad that this is still the case.. btw, the proportions of the AE86 are wrong too, it's not just the headlights.

  • @elitef40
    @elitef409 ай бұрын

    I really hate saying this but this franchise has to go with dignity. There's just no hope left whatsoever.

  • @alondite215

    @alondite215

    9 ай бұрын

    How is there no hope for what is _by far_ the best playing game in the series? Seriously why do you people even play video games when it's obvious the only thing that you care about is staring at images on a screen like a retard? Gameplay matters twice as much as every other aspect of video games combined, and the gameplay here is phenomenal.

  • @olavofernandes7286

    @olavofernandes7286

    9 ай бұрын

    True

  • @marcusjohnson7441
    @marcusjohnson74419 ай бұрын

    The wheels drive me crazy. At 13mph, you can see them basically go flat.

  • @Unfoundrumors
    @Unfoundrumors9 ай бұрын

    Having driven all 600 plus cars on every track in 4. I miss mount fujimi kaido

  • @V.M.E_01
    @V.M.E_019 ай бұрын

    There are a xoippe nore that novody ever mebtions, which includes the 1986 Ford Escort RS Turbo and the 1990 Vauxhall Lotus Carlton. Both need updating, although the RS Turbo had recieved somewhat decal correctiions.

  • @rjspires
    @rjspires9 ай бұрын

    There still issues with the headlights and taillights on a lot of the cars. Overall some good improvements.