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Forza Motorsport 2023 vs Real Life Cars Engine SOUNDS Direct Comparison! 🔊 *PART 1*
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● In today's video you'll see a sound comparison between 2023 Forza Motorsport 8's exhaust sounds vs. real life.
0:00 Intro
0:15 Apollo IE
3:01 Porsche 992 GT3
5:02 Cadillac V-LMDh
7:46 Lambo Diablo SV
10:20 Mercedes AMG GT Black Series
12:41 Ferrari F8
14:48 Audi 90 IMSA GTO
16:58 Honda Civic Type R FK8
18:24 McLaren 600LT
21:06 Subaru Impreza 22B
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@olavofernandes7286
9 ай бұрын
It's trash thnx
my favourite thing about these vs real life videos is you match the game to the real life video clip as closely as you can get it
@rafleg4630
10 ай бұрын
But it doesn't do it the right way, since the sounds in the game are shown from the outside of the cars (from the inside of the car they sound different from the outside). You should compare the shots under the same circumstances: if you show the real sound from inside the car you should also show the game sound from inside the car, since in Forza there are differences between indoor/outdoor just like in real life
They really messed up the gear shifts with the dual clutch auto cars...sounds way too slow and missing the bang on upshift
@jortepap
10 ай бұрын
Yes they sound like manual ... veeery stupid☹️
@Drippyxclutch1
10 ай бұрын
Exactly fm7 kinda had it right
@KurumaDesigns
10 ай бұрын
This is true, maybe I’ll try to make a suggestion on the forums for them to fix it
@novathepug6692
10 ай бұрын
@@KurumaDesignsthey made it slower so that manual cars are more realistic but messed up cars with good automatics I guess
@KurumaDesigns
10 ай бұрын
@@novathepug6692 yeah
12:24 the AMG GT black series has much faster gear changes in real life than in the game (go back 15-20 seconds)! 🙊 thanks for making this video. It's crazy how audio engineers can't replicate these sounds like they should, by now (2023)
@EarthIsFlat456
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, the one in the game feels like a manual.
@vs-id9yr
10 ай бұрын
@@EarthIsFlat456every car in the game feels like this. even a double clutched chiron
@romansenger2322
10 ай бұрын
@@vs-id9yrand they did that for all Forza game to this date. Embarrassing and lazy
@AgeofJP
10 ай бұрын
it's because car sounds have to be dynamic as f*** for every circumstance...you can't just record them from the source and be done with it, you have to literally simulate the sound itself AND the way it interacts with the car, surroundings, etc. (for every individual car no less) which isn't just nigh impossible to figure out but would also be extremely hard on the CPU if done accurately. Theoretically I'd say you could record a single RPM of the engine and play/adjust it in relation to the RPM of the car...but that'd be a soundfile playing up to like 10k times per minute which in practice I doubt our soundcards could handle and it would still be very taxing and inaccurate. Not to mention it's not a single sound...when you have the engine down there's still the exhausts that plays in conjunction. You'd literally need a whole science team that works on completely simulating the whole car, EVERY car with every upgrade, engine swap, etc. which just isn't feasable for a sim-light that's supposed to run on current gen hardware. The price of realism in that aspect is literally way higher than it is for graphics and driving physics, and let's be real...the solution they use is fine, not superb and it could be tweaked a little here and there, but when you're focused on racing (rather than watching videos to compare sounds) you tend to immerse yourself anyways.
@tescoshortage
9 ай бұрын
The upshift and downshift time has nothing to do with the sound engine or what the sound team did.
I don't understand why the 911 gt3 has such a slow gearbox, pdk is definitely faster irl
@romanianbear8873
10 ай бұрын
I think it was supposed to be manual...the only game in my opinion that has the most realistic PDK is Assetto Corsa
@yhelloh
10 ай бұрын
@@romanianbear8873 the interior shows paddles on the wheel...?
@shawnnj5999
10 ай бұрын
@@yhelloh i just noticed that to probably a issue with forza modeling the car but that gearing for the gt3 is definitely for the manual gt3
@ghst7848
9 ай бұрын
A lot of cars in motorsport have slow gear changes, the gt3, 488 pista, amg gt black series, the gt2 rs and even the chiron for example, they are all cars that can shift pretty quick irl, but in game it's like they have a manual box
@pacoflyer
7 ай бұрын
@@ghst7848 You have to upgrade the clutch to get close to what it is in real life. You can really tell the game is dumbing down shifts with the base clutch if you use a clutch pedal.
This week on "Why does the audio recorded on my iPhone mic not sound like a 5000$ mic setup strapped to a hyper car"
@dimariobell8499
4 ай бұрын
Shutup
That cadillac sounds mad accurate😲
i think the outside view lacks exhaust sound, too many other noices going on
@Do.Christ
10 ай бұрын
And T10 doesn’t let you adjust it out. I tried to turn everything down except the engine sound but when I turned down the (I forgot which one) I think the SRX the engine sound came down to
5:10 I’ll give ‘em credit for adding the small detail of the Cadillac starting off with the electric motor first then switching to the combustion engine in the pit lane. :)
@koniukh
10 ай бұрын
I actually just found out that Cadillac has something like that
Apollo IE still sounds so flat. In real life, it screams. In FM and FH5, sounds like "generic" V12. It is just my opinion. Sorry.
@yaboix4534
10 ай бұрын
You're telling the truth tho
@varski76
10 ай бұрын
Yeah nothing wrong about speaking the truth
@RZRREDD
10 ай бұрын
Yeah the flat sound caught me off guard
@fifteen8850
10 ай бұрын
It’s flat but they got the right sound, more or less. The IE uses the f12 v12 but it’s more obvious in Forza
@Vakas88
10 ай бұрын
TBH, every car sounds crap compared to the real one. And that's true for every racing game.
This video is gonna blow up. By the way love your content as always ❤
I don't understand why there are so many people here in the comments complaining, the sound of the Ferrari F8 is just like it is in real life It's impressive how to criticize Forza, everyone becomes an audio technician out of nowhere 😂
@Vioral
10 ай бұрын
Welp, not to mention that modders could do the same just by using a youtube video instead of an irl recording……BUT, the complains are that the sounds are all syntetized and compressed, meaning that they lack harshness and color. While the f8 does indeed sound good, its a rare case, and it still has all of the things i mentioned before; also, funny thing is that the audio for it was already used in FH5, so literally it wasnt even made for this game and isnt new.
@Mrparanoico66
10 ай бұрын
@@Vioral "they lack hardness and color", that seems like a shallow argument that doesn't add or prove anything, I didn't even know that sounds could have color If you are dissatisfied with this, then go play Assetto Corsa or then install a mod to play Forza with more harnesses and color 😂 for me, they're crying for nothing, "the gear shifting speed isn't good" oh screw it, the sound design of this game is amazing
@Vioral
10 ай бұрын
@@Mrparanoico66 Welp the thing abt harshness and color is something I noticed after cruising around a lot on FH5, and FH5 is even better at that with its sounds compared to FM, so i imagine a pretty bad experience with this game so far. While i dont think i need to explain what i meant with harshness, I used the term “color” to not use any more technical word, and by “color” I literally meant the lack of details and the compressed sound not making the car feel alive, since most of them are just missing the dominant frequencies (or exhaust sounds volume) that they should have. Also, I dont know abt u, but as far as I know, most people actually try to image what a sound would look like after hearing it, and the fact of them lacking dominant frequencies (or exhaust sound volume) does make that image in ur head more dull and less defined, basically not really alive. I apologize if my English isnt the best.
@Vioral
10 ай бұрын
@@Mrparanoico66 And yes, mixing is good for this sounds (aside the compression ofc), also the acoustics are good, but i dont think its really worth the fact of having this syntetized sounds and them not feeling harsh like in real life. I’m just here cause i like some stuff abt this game and i feel like it would be fun to play but literally it has kinda too many flaws rn.
Except for the sound what really strikes me about Forza is the environment around the track, I had to look twice to make sure which was actually being showed between game and reality. Sounds aside I dont think that would be 100% ever correct unless you have the same conditions and exact same car doing the exact same thing.
@avestruz_que_te_seduz632
10 ай бұрын
Si 👍
@pikkyuukyuun4741
10 ай бұрын
bro has not seen modded AC
@mcnuggetapple
10 ай бұрын
@@pikkyuukyuun4741modded ac has extremely exaggerated sounds especially with turbos lol
@stancemedia4727
8 ай бұрын
@@pikkyuukyuun4741the flames on AC look horrible. Looks like liquified flames. The sounds sound very computer like as well. Don’t know why people glaze it so much🤣
Gotta say, the sounds are 💯 better than past Forza games. Sounds were always a huge gripe of mine in some racing games. If I'm in a race car, I want it to sound like a race car , and not a vacuum cleaner.
@darrenfaulkner6896
10 ай бұрын
10-4 my bro, the sounds are definitely much better in this game. FM7, only had a handful of cars that sounded up to par.
I think they made a very decent job!
Ferrari and Audi dont sound bad, but they are just compressed and for that reason lack a bit of harshness, and a bit of voice (in both those cars, u should hear a bit more the mid-high frequencies instead of just the highs)l
@rafleg4630
10 ай бұрын
That's because it shows the sound from outside the car, it should show it from inside (with first person view)
@Vioral
10 ай бұрын
@@rafleg4630 Nah im talking like 3rd person game to 3rd person real life comparison. And anyways this game’s first person sounds awful.
The Cadillac, Civic Type- R and the Ferrari F8 are mad accurate.
Honestly, they've done better than in the past. Sound design is extremely difficult. Plus, you have to remember that the harsh sounds of motors can become uncomfortable in gaming, especially long sessions. It's close enough for me.
@tastyoldgravy
8 ай бұрын
It's a game named "motorsport". People are expecting the car to sound somewhat realistic.
What’s funny to me is how good the Aventador sounds compared to other games, despite the majority of cars in Motorsport sounding just okay
the cadilac taking off at 5:12 sounds like a rocket launch 🔥🔥🔥you gotta wear good bass headphones
They all sound ok. Lotta compression in the in game sounds, you lose the full sound the irl engines have. The gearshifts are also way too slow, and lack punch for a lot of the cars. They could have done worse tho
maybe they will get car sounds right in forza motorsport 9 😂
@Harryjw67
10 ай бұрын
You’ll only have to wait till 2029 and they still probably won’t 😭😭😭
@avestruz_que_te_seduz632
10 ай бұрын
Sonysta passando vergonha que coisa normal vou até tira print pra mostra meus amigos
@fifteen8850
10 ай бұрын
Idk man most of the cars in the vid sounds pretty accurate. The F8 for example
@deadlyrobot5179
10 ай бұрын
I like how they use 85 mics to record the real cars, but fail to add 50% of the sounds that these cars make. Where is the pops Where is the metallic sounds Where is the nastiness
@bbm959
10 ай бұрын
Must admit this video does have some of the better sounding cars but overall not great, I mean look at the Audi RS3/TT-RS and AMG GTR they sound nothing like the real thing :( how hard can it be
Bruh i actually got confused, forza is so beautiful.
Man, Playground games still has issues with sound. They are lacking gearbox whine, engine load, exhaust audio. Something The Crew Motorsport actually got right. C'mon Forza we want the visceral audio.
@GraveUypo
10 ай бұрын
playground makes horizon. this is turn10, a much shittier studio (they were good up until about 2011~ or so)
@sarahwood8943
10 ай бұрын
FH5 has gearbox whine.
The first game that nails car sounds will be one of the best racing games ever
@fancy3774
8 ай бұрын
need for speed most wanted 2012 and it's trash
@dcgamephotography5533
8 ай бұрын
@@fancy3774That didn't have the best car engine sounds
The Cadillac is 🔥
The gear changes are not fast enough for the GT3, Black Series and F8 Tributo ...
Great video bro, lots of effort. I really didn't expect Forza to go the realistic route, not that they have perfect sounds here, but many of these sounds was impressive for Forza standards. P.S - dont give critique here if you dont listen this on headphones or good speakers.
The amount of flames from exhaust pipes is now exaggerated like Horizon. I hate it.
Great video! I think most of these are very good, they aren’t perfect but some of them are not too far off imo. The ctr for example sounds spot on, while the Audi imsa gto sounds a little muted and the blow-off should’ve been louder. The last comparison is kinda unfair tho, you can’t put equal length headers and anti-lag on the 22b in the game 🤷🏼♂️
@darrenfaulkner6896
10 ай бұрын
Yeah I thought the FM sounds are pretty good too. In fact the AmG Black series sounds better than the real life version imo. Overall I think the sounds are great. Also keep in mind they will change as you upgrade your car!
It's almost as if the GT7 sound engineers worked on this game 🤦♂️
@LawnMower-jv8hg
10 ай бұрын
Did they actually?
@GraveUypo
10 ай бұрын
@@LawnMower-jv8hg well after forza motorsport 6, a bunch of forza sound engineers went to work on gran turismo. that's why they sound kinda similar nowadays.
@LawnMower-jv8hg
10 ай бұрын
@@GraveUypo oh I see
@Brunoperes_88
10 ай бұрын
You're wrong, since GT Sport the GT sounds are pretty accurate, if you do some research you will find that!
What’s crazy is sometimes i can’t even tell when’s it’s irl or the game footage 😂
The Cadillac V-LMDh, Ferrari F8, Honda Civic Type R FK8, Mclaren 600Lt and the Subaru Impreza 22B was actuall close to the real sound.
@rytiger131
10 ай бұрын
cadillac sounded so good taking off in the game
Would be helpful if you label what's real life and what's Forza... lol. But for real, hopefully they utilize this new approach to constantly updating the game by also updating car sounds to sound more like their real life counterparts.
It's like a lot of the high-pitched sound has been filtered out, and the engine notes have that sort of "tinny" feel where the sound isn't constant enough. It's weird.
We need a new generation of sound! cmon, a big portion of the fun is to hear the delicious sounds of the cars, and we just hear that sintetized crap!
They sound very good, it’s just that Diablo is screwed up again.
@lepilote4527
10 ай бұрын
Very good ? lol
@fifteen8850
10 ай бұрын
@@lepilote4527yah, they are
The 992 GT3 in the real vid has no stock exhaust. The stock exhaust sounds very good, but different
@KurumaDesigns
10 ай бұрын
I thought so, sounded way too crazy to be stock
Good Job 👍🏻👍🏻
Were almost there boys
Brass and trumpets have more bite to them than Forza Motorsport.
5:09 WHAT It also starts like real life :o damn! The car in Forza also sounds freaking good!
Damn didn’t know a AMG gt could sound so dull. You can’t even hear the V8 only the turbo’s
A game will never be 100% accurate to real life especially when irl isn’t in a chase cam in your pov. This game sounds incredible
@TT-df9hp
8 ай бұрын
I disagree. Car sounds will only improve just like graphics and I think at some point we'll struggle to tell the difference between in-game vs real life.
We have SSDs, CPUs, GPUs, teraflops but we still don't have a minimum fidelity engine sound. For me, the most ridiculous issue is a car with stock and, after, racing exhaust sounding exactly the same. If technology reach some level where some singer with no talent can sound perfectly fine using a software called Autotune, why don't the devs create some algorithm to convert previously recorded real life car sounds to acceptable game car sounds?
@Totone56
10 ай бұрын
A guy on KZread actually created an Engine Simulator, that recreates everything in a car engine and replicates the sound. It's amazing, but running the thing itself is heavy, so it wouldn't make sense to implement that in a game that already has a lot of physics and other stuff going on. So they use simplified systems instead, it's always a balance between fidelity and performance.
The back fire sounds are just not aggressive enough on Forza.
Sounds are great :)
You know when you eat food, and it's just a salty with no flavor? That's what the sounds sound like in FM. You can taste that there's something there, but it's not enough, nor is it right. Not gonna bash the game, but FM has been a huge letdown so far.
It sounds like most cars share the same engine :D I am in shock because I was sure that forza in 2023 will be more realistic in case of sound, more realistic pops and bangs etc.
Real life looks more realistic than game.
the biggest problem in this game is the gearbox on dct cars, that's WAY too slow and sounds like a manual wtf
Car sounds are epic in crew motorfest. Like they are all from the fast and the furious lol
I think the sounds are a big improvement. Not as good as acc but they have the luxury of much less cars
Hanno detto che avrebbero rifatto il suono dei motori ma a quanto pare non hanno rifatto niente
The best comparison to see how bad car sounds are is to get a good clip of a 350 chevy small block idling and revving and compare it to the absolute disaster that is every v8 in every video game.
I've noticed that (in the Ferrari F8 for example) the Blow Of Valve has various spooling sounds, instead of just one, like in FH5. Interior sounds are much better, compared to it's predecesor.
I'm more impressed by the graphics, they look so real.
@_4G63_
10 ай бұрын
Look at trees and shadows.. 😂 Thats far from real... Its a little bit better FM7
@gradient5319
10 ай бұрын
@@_4G63_Bro FM7 had planks for trees are you kidding me? These look 3d and sometimes quite close to photorealism.
@_4G63_
10 ай бұрын
@@gradient5319 😂😂😂 realistic and 3d you say? 😂😂😂😂😂
Wow, IRL there are a lot more muffler popping sounds than I expected. I thought Forza was overdoing it. That Mclaren was spitting fire.
Wow the real life footages look much more realistic compared to FM.
The audi missing the turbo cheddar😮
I hate how some dual clutch cars in Motorsport shift HELLA slow, this game was very disappointing.
The sound design teams took 6 years off tbh
I can't hear the millions of dollars
You couldn’t have found a video of a stock GT Black Series to compare to?
Its an improvement but there not great. They have still got alot of work to do. Still think Playground games do a better job on Horizon.
Weird that they don't use the real sounds for the cars. Can't be that hard these days 🤔
@Mr.Kumar1
10 ай бұрын
I was thinking that too, I can't see the reason why it needs so much computerisation 🤔🤔
@Mr.Kumar1
10 ай бұрын
Just needs a simple audio file
@Zapatronical
10 ай бұрын
@@Mr.Kumar1first off, too expensive Second off, it’s too hard Third off, if they did it. It would be worst than the one they’re currently using since the methods they use are really obsolete
@Mr.Kumar1
10 ай бұрын
@@Zapatronical what do you mean too expensive??
@mrfishsticks266
10 ай бұрын
@@ZapatronicalYou work for them? You don't understand nothing of racing games developers. Capture sounds is not expensive.
GT7 VS FM Vs real life plss
Here at t10 no sound is released until it's scrubbed with our patented homoginizer.
Still nice sound for the cadillac but a shame not all light at the rear of the car are working. Even at the front when u race at night.
Please please do a gran Turismo 7 vs real life sounds!!!
ok but can we talk about how the AMG GT sounds like a Ferrari 458
18:55 *Firework moment*
Sadly there is no racing game which nails the sound :(
Just realised that vacuum sounds in Gran Turismo are actually realistic lol
@azi9_ity
6 ай бұрын
Intakes sound exaggerated tbf tho
The crew motorfest sounds much better
It's close but I don't understand why they always almost removing the lower spectrum. They should sound more bassy.
WTF i thought the first real footage was game footage lol
I open the video, gear changes are still slow af, I close the video. Crazy how Forza can't just make them as real after so many years
To thia day o stil not grasp how can the almoast nail the video life like in games the sound left behind in old commodore times😂😂😂😂😂
Where is the 1979 Chevy Camaro Z28??? Where is the 1977 Pontiac trans am firebird?? 2 vintage iconic cars
95% of the cars in the game lack the low end visceral growl, and any engine above 5000 rev sounds like a kitchen blender, but this is my opinion with most newer car games.
what about GT7 vs Forza vs Real
Racing games need a static camera you can put some where, so you can hear your car fly by
@KurumaDesigns
10 ай бұрын
They do, it’s called replays lol
@Vslrxgc8
10 ай бұрын
@@KurumaDesigns no not replays, a camera for driving in real time so you can actually see the speed you are moving at
@KurumaDesigns
10 ай бұрын
@@Vslrxgc8 ahh
22B 😍😍
In my opinion sometimes real life can be a little boring so I prefer for the developers not to attempt to be 100% realistic.
The game seems to miss the treble sounds the really high pitch stuff and the gargle
@XxSniperFiendxX
10 ай бұрын
Yup this 💯
most of the IRL cars are modified
I’m super disappointed with the Cadillac LMDH sound. I heard this car in Daytona this year and is insane how those engines sound. This is pretty lame.
2:44 the car shit itself
Ac sound mods are undefeated
I can’t tell if If it’s better than fh5 or worse
5:56 Who tf was driving that Cadillac ?
Motorsport 4 to me still remains the best sounding of all the Forza Motorsports.
@rcplayground7
8 ай бұрын
That's the Forza I currently play sounding is not the best lol it's like a 2011 game 💀
@Dironomer
8 ай бұрын
@@rcplayground7 Yes, and I’m saying the engine sounds have regressed since then.
@rcplayground7
8 ай бұрын
@@Dironomer I don't think so
why it seems muffed?
The transmission or the shifting was the thing that disappointed me most with Motorsport 7 and it hasn't been improved at all. Thanks to you, I'll save the money and put some real gas in my car instead.
Wow both look great but real life better🤣
Ferrari engine sound was damn close
Some of them have modified exhaust that will slight change the sounds
@Chippy569
10 ай бұрын
the "real" WRX shown is a very long way away from a stock WRX lol.
@thomasbouvier3203
10 ай бұрын
@@Chippy569porsche too xD And ppl complaining about gearbox whine missing, well, upgrade gearbox and there you go. Shocked me to hear gearbox whine on a 350z xD
The exhaust flames are too slow.. You'd think they could at least get that right
Good enough for game pass
@henkstols9326
10 ай бұрын
Haha, Game pass is pure magic.
@N1NT3NDUD3
10 ай бұрын
Right. I would never have bought this game.