Forward Slip to Land | Losing Altitude with a Slip | How to Land an Airplane

A forward slip to land is a way to lose altitude faster when on a landing approach, without the increase in speed that usually comes with a descent. Let's look at how to employ the sip safely to add it to your bag of tricks in landings.
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  • @braininavatnow9197
    @braininavatnow9197 Жыл бұрын

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    @viewerad

    Жыл бұрын

    Ditto

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    @vince8701

    Жыл бұрын

    What are the others?

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    @braininavatnow9197

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @dale116dot7
    @dale116dot7 Жыл бұрын

    It works even on a 767 that doesn’t have enough fuel for a go-around. Or perhaps no fuel at all.

  • @jimmiller5600

    @jimmiller5600

    Жыл бұрын

    OG wide-body glider

  • @machinaexmente2729
    @machinaexmente2729 Жыл бұрын

    And don't forget to check your AFM. Some European training aircraft disallow slipping with flaps extended.

  • @fpvflyby6855
    @fpvflyby685522 сағат бұрын

    Excellent video excellent description and video support. Thank you.

  • @SnailSatan
    @SnailSatanАй бұрын

    Your videos are by far the best thing on the internet. I'm definitely going to purchase your Instrument and Commercial lesson bundle.

  • @engineerauthorpilot
    @engineerauthorpilot Жыл бұрын

    Great video. I have only one comment: You should be watching your airspeef at all times. Once you are fully in the slip, all that drag will quickly eat up your airspeed before you realize it. Furthermore, misuse of pitch will also bleed off airspeed very quickly. It's a serious situation I point out routinely to students while learning the manuever. If you aren't paying attention, you can slow to stall speed. So... speed is very important and really should be emphasized during the manuever.

  • @crazybird199

    @crazybird199

    28 күн бұрын

    I was just practicing them for the first time today. I should’ve seen this comment because I got only 10 mph from my stall speed.

  • @engineerauthorpilot

    @engineerauthorpilot

    28 күн бұрын

    @@crazybird199 Excellent. That's great that you recognized your speed before it became an issue. Good job.

  • @fst1973
    @fst1973Ай бұрын

    One of the best videos I have seen explaining the concept.

  • @TheDrKKool
    @TheDrKKool Жыл бұрын

    Informative, to both, experienced and novice pilots. Thx.

  • @jakew9887
    @jakew9887 Жыл бұрын

    Great presentation. Thanks

  • @gerhardcombrinck7026
    @gerhardcombrinck7026 Жыл бұрын

    Great visuals - well done and thank you!

  • @ElijahMiniBikes
    @ElijahMiniBikes Жыл бұрын

    Trying to learn some of these for RC planes. Thanks for sharing.

  • @dbrown4bbl
    @dbrown4bbl11 ай бұрын

    Slip to land was my favorite maneuver while training.

  • @alk672
    @alk672 Жыл бұрын

    One important aspect that I think is missing - you can control the energy dissipation by varying the amount of rudder used; that allows for less commitment compared to putting flaps down. One questionable piece of advice - the recommendation to begin the slip in the base turn. I just don't know about student pilots applying full rudder in their base turns, that sounds... questionable. Maybe let's wait until we're on final before we do that. Also, no mention of possible erroneous airspeed indication while in a slip (higher or lower depending on the direction of slip), kinda important since we know we'll die for sure if we stall on final with full rudder in.

  • @TiagoSeiler

    @TiagoSeiler

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, the "don't worry about stalling" was spooky to hear. Air is hitting the pitot and static openings at different than designed normals, which could affect indicated airspeed.

  • @alk672

    @alk672

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TiagoSeiler I can understand where that came from, I always make the mistake of lowering the nose in a sideslip (as advised by the FAA book by the way), and I end up too fast and float.

  • @stevekirk8546

    @stevekirk8546

    Жыл бұрын

    As I understand it the slip is implemented on turning onto final which seems very logical. The crucial decisions are made on final...

  • @Av8err

    @Av8err

    Жыл бұрын

    Aren’t most Cessna not supposed to be slipped with flaps?

  • @calsbarn5996

    @calsbarn5996

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Av8err Those that have 40 flaps aren’t supposed to be slipped with FULL flaps.

  • @jandejong2430
    @jandejong243014 сағат бұрын

    Essential tool if an emergency landing must be made.

  • @stevekirk8546
    @stevekirk8546 Жыл бұрын

    That is so well explained. I'm just a self taught sim flyer and wasn't aware of this manoeuvre but it seems to work well even in my simple simmulation software. I think I'll find it very useful. Thank you.

  • @kurtreber9813
    @kurtreber98137 ай бұрын

    It also makes sense to nose away from the cross-wind during forward slip to land because recovering from that slip automatically puts you in the slip for the landing itself.

  • @Psikeomega
    @Psikeomega Жыл бұрын

    Ryan air practices this maneuver on every landing all the way to the ground.

  • @mizzyroro
    @mizzyroro12 күн бұрын

    Nice technique, but I don't know. I would always encourage a go-around and try again as the first option if the approach isn't stabilised.

  • @otiebrown9999
    @otiebrown9999 Жыл бұрын

    Flying a J-3 Cub - I always did it.

  • @chucklemasters6433
    @chucklemasters64332 ай бұрын

    do you remember the parasitic drag curve that you study for the private written and flight test? at low speed you are using just a fraction of your available parasitic drag. if you ever see the rate of decent you achieve with a nose low attitude to reach a speed of around 90 kts you will see immediately that you are going to land and stop far shorter even with the extra speed you built up on final. this may not be as effective with a faster low wing aircraft but in a single engine cessna or other high wing trainer you are far better off to use the higher speed because it will bleed off very quickly if you hold those aileron/rudder inputs in the roundout and flare. try it a few times and you will never slip with that high pitch/low speed attitude again. you don't want to risk stall/spin with those rudders deflected at low speed close to the ground anyway.

  • @mikemarra9979
    @mikemarra99792 ай бұрын

    Good, but would be better if you showed what the turn and slip indicator was showing during this maneuver so we know where the BALL should be when doing it correctly. Thanks! Nice job.

  • @annn.3615
    @annn.36157 ай бұрын

    🧡

  • @Michelle2A
    @Michelle2A Жыл бұрын

    At 1:27 you said "our descent rate drops" but I don't think that's what you meant to say.

  • @Justin-ny8df
    @Justin-ny8df11 ай бұрын

    Does stalling speeds change in a slip? From Vs0 and Vs1 I mean.

  • @badgerfishinski6857
    @badgerfishinski68572 ай бұрын

    Flaps b4 FAF? This means less configuration changes at FAF. Only changes at FAFwould be power & pitch. Thoughts?

  • @willyuan1
    @willyuan1 Жыл бұрын

    how is a sideslip different? less rudder?

  • @giobaldu
    @giobaldu Жыл бұрын

    Do you do this with flaps? If an aircraft is not certified to slip with flaps down, do you loose more altitude with a forward slip, or full flaps?

  • @mjc4942

    @mjc4942

    11 ай бұрын

    At least for small planes not if you can help it. I've heard it's possible to do damage using both. It's good if you lose flaps.... Electric flaps

  • @rinzler9775
    @rinzler9775 Жыл бұрын

    I always liken the slip to turning the entire aircraft into an airbrake

  • @mojo7618
    @mojo76188 ай бұрын

    Cessna doesn’t allow slips with flaps down , no ?

  • @goose8494
    @goose8494 Жыл бұрын

    C172N POH :”steep slips should be avoided with flap settings greater than 20°due…….”. should/shall I respect this on my checkride?

  • @sasbenjr

    @sasbenjr

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes. Always follow POH unless exercising emergency authority as PiC. Most landing slips are not steep.

  • @braininavatnow9197

    @braininavatnow9197

    Жыл бұрын

    "due...." to what?

  • @arctain1

    @arctain1

    Жыл бұрын

    "steep slips hould be avoided with flaps greater than 20⁰" There are two things here... 1. "should be avoided" is not a prohibition against a >20⁰ flap setting and slipping the aircraft. (a prohibition looks like what you see in FIKI prohibitions). A more clear explanation of what occurs is found in the 'Crosswind Landing' under section 4 of the POH - You might get some elevator oscillation. 2. "Steep Slips" are what is recommended (not prohibited) against. What is a 'steep slip'? Basically, a normal slip keeps the nose relatively flat or slightly down. a Steep Slip, drops the nose. What happens in a 172 during a full slip executed steeply, is that you get this odd buffering or oscillation in the elevator as dirty air flows over the elevator. Normal slips (i.e. high on final), you don't tend to get the buffering. I've executed full rudder deflection, forward slips with 30⁰ of flaps, and as long as the nose is kept level, there isn't any oscillation. I've also dropped the nose with 30⁰ of flaps and full deflection and felt the oscillation. It's not bad, and not even scary to 99% of student pilots. Go try it! it's not prohibited. it causes oscillation in the elevator. It's not dangerous. go up to 5k feet, do clearing turns and practice⁶

  • @braininavatnow9197

    @braininavatnow9197

    Жыл бұрын

    @@arctain1 well I know what I'll be doing the next time I can get my hands on a 172🤔😁 Thanks for that

  • @ralfsingmann6580

    @ralfsingmann6580

    Жыл бұрын

    This is correct because greater flap settings lead to a shading effect on the tail but this applies to the C172. Low wing aircraft do not have this specific problem.

  • @cellokid5104
    @cellokid5104 Жыл бұрын

    Do flaps during slips pose any dangers?

  • @boborj555

    @boborj555

    6 ай бұрын

    Mby damage to the flaps if over the max flaps extended

  • @migupl

    @migupl

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@boborj555it's about the stabiliser and elevator getting into dirty air. In theory you might stall it

  • @patrickherrington6042
    @patrickherrington60422 ай бұрын

    Can you fwd slip with 30° of flaps?

  • @dtsh4451

    @dtsh4451

    2 ай бұрын

    Cessna doesn’t allow fwd slip with flap; Piper doesn’t care🤷‍♂️

  • @kissmedaddy152
    @kissmedaddy1522 ай бұрын

    i did it on an airplane game

  • @Db--jt7bt
    @Db--jt7bt Жыл бұрын

    If you do forward slip, your engine is already not at idle, so you’ll be able to regain lost airspeed faster in the event that you abort the landing and go around.

  • @aerotuc
    @aerotuc Жыл бұрын

    I did this so much ,in my earlier years that a dent formed in the side of my hired 152.The main reason was i would fly a 5 degree final glide path and found myself too high .It was also caused by my flying very tight patterns .Just keep that nose down low and dont let your speed decay.