To clarify: The fourth Sans is Betrayer! Specifically, my own take on Betrayer. If you wanna know the lore of my Betrayer take, then you can ask! UPDATE FROM POST-PHASE 1.5 GOLDEN: Lore's scrapped, rework soon. Also MIDI! :D

@snakeyb3028

2 жыл бұрын

I’ll bite. What your lore for him?

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

I edited it, now lore exists

@ElPanaNezuko

2 жыл бұрын

Betrayer is different

@hotbabe8842

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh I'm surprised you didn't put killer or something has the 4th sans

@evitagen_beta

2 жыл бұрын

Wait, why original Sans is the 4, i though killer was the 4?

It's so cool that it's so emotional ... !! Thank you !! 😭🙏✨✨✨

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

REDRUM LESSGO And you're welcome! I tried my very best to stick with the feels of your original song. And I'm glad it worked! Guess I really gotta do Phase 1.5 now.

@redmantle8784

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah so because you commented this makes it canon… Suck it ain’t nothing you can do about it…/j :Trollsnas:

@tophatskelle3161

2 жыл бұрын

the redrum

@eternalwonder6325

2 жыл бұрын

@@tophatskelle3161 eht redrum

@Aiden-wd5nf

2 жыл бұрын

redruM ehT

This actually sounds and looks amazing at the same time. I also love the fact that when Insanity, Dust, and Last Breath started turning off their pupils, Betrayer is like, "wait wtf is going on?". Nonetheless, awesome job on the song.

@pooferfish2850

2 жыл бұрын

They know player is about to lay down the knife on each of them

LB: You're beyond redemption kid... Dust: This will all be worth it when your cruelty ends... Insanity: The experiment will be a success. Betrayer: hEy gUyS wHaTs pOpPiN!¡?¿

@santoshkumar-cr6gi

3 ай бұрын

Betrayer does not remember anything till phase 3 sooooo lore accurate. XD

5:24 when you and the homies vibing then someone says something depressing

nooooo I missed the premiere But still, the music is epic...and I really love the simple and clean video-making style. The coolest Quartet ever btw There is a more crazy bunch called Ending Time Octu, which has 10 sanses.(and music surprisingly isn't that bad)

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

yeah even if it might not be bad, I won't get near that

@lesleyguevarra5374

2 жыл бұрын

Maybi ask whatbis ending time octu pls Linkni wanna see ( if it is a trio or something )

@stanley8446

2 жыл бұрын

Did they private the video or something? I heard it a few Times and watch it but when i try searching it up again it wasnt there again

Here we got another time quartet. It's my one of favorite quartets :) Because, time at 5:25 In the scene where Sanss (except for Betrayal Sans) seems to stop attacking to persuade the player (especially LB! Sans), Betrayer! Sans looks at Sanss, and He seems to be worried if he can trust the player.

"So, if you know me, then you know I absolutely despise quartets. Not because they're bad, but whoever tries to do it does a big failure of a song/concept/anything. *And Hetnixira, who made the first Former Time Quartet, did exactly that.* (no offense, you still put some effort, that's what matters. :D) So, I decided to make the arguably first ever actually good quartet. And here we are!" I like the original Former Time Quartet though... (That's not saying I don't like this more, though!)

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

okay, maybe big failure is an overstatement. but their version really really does feel like former time trio on a budget.

@0001Mxrcel

2 жыл бұрын

@@caramelcupcakes for me I feel like FTQ is better than FTT, idk why but their phase 1 seems to appeal to me more than FTT phase 1

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

@@0001Mxrcel Buddy, just the simple fact that FTT Phase 1 utilized *pitch bending, my baby* makes it way better.

@amadeuszmajewski3551

2 жыл бұрын

Wait until you hear about former time quintet

Wery nice! I think this is the best FTT remix I've ever heard, great job, dude! And I don't care it's quartet or trio, sounds really amazing!

probably the best one so far (for me) of all those themes you made

3:16 Daaaaaaamn, this part is so great, good job!

@Gasterisation

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

That's a unique take on betrayer, I like this!

The most painful thing you have done human was Getting ketchup on my jacket when I left my guard down

First time here and I'm not disappointed this is a really great song nice work

I just can't get over how beautiful this is.

imagine commenting after the premiere. also, great job with another banger

Insanity, Dust, and LB Sans are just like “We failed…” while betrayer is like “wait what? how are you doing that and why? what’s even going on right now?”

Yooo this is amazing Golden, nice theme I love it. Greetings :3

betrayer is dressed like me when i got school lmao. good music golden per usual!

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

Tales from the Middle School: Betrayer real

@enigmaticencounterlol3277

2 жыл бұрын

@@caramelcupcakes does the phase 4 use your phase 4 take or does it use unpredictable.

Ah yes A fine addition to my collection lmao some fiery music right there

Although I feel Hetnixira still had a really good quartet (because MTT just sounds cool), but I can definitely see how Betrayer adds more motifs and makes more sense for the trio.

I liked this video. That's some good music. Especially 3:43 that insanity motif slaps.

I really love the look of betrayer. He changed his look a bit. Also the music is really good!

5:26 Lb : Uncanny Dust : Uncanny Insanity : Uncanny Betrayer : Confused

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

Former Time Trio becoming Uncanny (+ Betrayer Sans becoming Canny)

@Gasterisation

2 жыл бұрын

@@caramelcupcakes i think betrayer become confused

Epic video! Can I ask you: Who is it in 1:50?

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

Betrayer! He might look weird because it's my take on Betrayer.

@RomanVelchik

2 жыл бұрын

@@caramelcupcakes Ok, thank you!

I honestly really like the idea of Betrayer!sans in FTT. Good job! It is really faithful to the original!

Betrayer got drip ngl (also really curious about the other phases- mostly because of the fact that at the end, Betrayer looks to the other three with what I assume to be a concerned look on his face.)

very nice!!

Wow that's epic

Hello future self this is probably a banger

Lb: its a beautifily day outside. Dust: birds are sing flowers are blooming Insanity: on days these monsters like me. Killer: KIDS LIKE AT YOU GO TO HELL A LONG OF TIME AGO...

Perfection

this feels more like unusual betrayal if the player is not controlling sunny

OMG so good 🥰

Agree this is emotional

Oh crap, this is epic

Pogchamp

wow golden so cool cover bro

So cool

Ah yes fancy betrayer (ngl but the theme sounds really cool and that's a good thing).

Heh... For one sec I thought this was some kind of take of yours of the already made Former Time Quartet, that includes Killer instead of "your" Betrayer (forgor who made it tho =/ ). Still, this sounds cool. lol I just realized the way "your" Betrayer looks the other 3 sanses at the end lmao

Cool music

Epic

Cool

Poggers music :)

Ayyy, new thumbnail

When LB isn't there, a dead pixel appears, not suggesting to rework the vid, just gonna trigger the people who see my comment 😈

former time quartet (original): insanity last breath dust killer this version: insanity last breath dust betrayer killer: well, guess im off to slack

@Aiden-wd5nf

2 жыл бұрын

Killer: I'm just gonna murder people until my triumphant return

I just wonder if you'll ever make a Phase 2 for your take on the Former Time Quartet.

*Midi when?*

will there be anymore phases?

Yo good theme! Is there going to be more phases?

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely!

@marmill1156

2 жыл бұрын

@@caramelcupcakes yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes

@marmill1156

2 жыл бұрын

@@caramelcupcakes also darkened dust’s head until phase 3

Question can i upload this on soundcloud?

Great

@glenn87104

2 жыл бұрын

EDP is Just there for the cupcake

phase 3 is an practical sanction

This looks so good i dont even know what to say... Betrayer at the end be like: ey yo guys whats going on-

Now they stand there... Reqriemly

esta cool

I feel like last breath sans is tired of being put in a group with a bunch of insane murderers

@INLesor

8 ай бұрын

so he brought betrayer aka a sans who wants to befriend the human

People nowadays don't give me the good old megalovania vibe with their remixes, this one is good enough though

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

Well, I personally like this vibe more. It has a sad melody and I'm very good at making sad stuff.

Yes

I see secret motif listed... is it mirrored insanity, I saw a part in the music that *sorta* sounded like it, but I can't be sure.

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

Nope! But you're kinda close!

@lesleyguevarra5374

2 жыл бұрын

@@caramelcupcakes is it mirrored judgement ?

"Quartets aren't good." Murder time quartet take by Cheesems: *Am I a joke to you? Hold my full ost.*

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

Still uses Nightmare, so no, unfortunately.

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

It isn't bad per say, just not good either.

@tophatskelle3161

2 жыл бұрын

@@caramelcupcakes yeah, it was kinda meh

@SpectroliteDS2400

2 жыл бұрын

although i like the concept, the ost falls a little flat for me and just feels like a downgrade from the MTT (it's not *BAD,* just a bit 'meh'). At least the new version's an improvement over the old one (the one that killed Killer after phase 1 and replaced him with who i *think* is reaper). Although we can all agree at least it's not the murder time *quintet* right?

Betrayer rn "why y'all look so sad?"

Insanity! Sans ULB! Sans Dust! Sans And SCH! Sans

@cr1ckyt

7 ай бұрын

sch?

when are you gonna fix the clipping on the drums (specifically the snares) :depresso:

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

what-

@karmicspice

2 жыл бұрын

@@caramelcupcakes you dont hear it?

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

@@karmicspice ye I don't

finally its fair 2 good snacks and 2 bad ones

Not even third. The music is very cool

Betrayer sans and dust sans eyes glow on both eyes betrayer have justice and patience dust have determination level of hatred eyes but justify and his right with essence of patience a example of both sans might use the souls abilities to distract Chara and then insanity and last breath abilities related to gaster to release the final blows on Chara note: this is a concept for someone want to animate the soundtrack

all of them do be wearing the same pants

Who sans in the former time quarter

What is your take of betrayer dose it have a phase 2 or 3 what dose the phases look like

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

I'll discuss it more on the next video.

thoughts on bad time quartet

NOICE btw what the 4th sans

@glenn87104

2 жыл бұрын

Betrayer

@DoPeopleEvenReadDesc

2 жыл бұрын

@@glenn87104 oh thonks

@glenn87104

2 жыл бұрын

Np

very VERY late but whats the former, pun intended, lore on this betrayer sans?

I feel like everyone is misunderstanding what you mean when you say Quartets are bad. You mean they aren't creative right? Hetnixira and Cheesems make good music for the quartets, but are not very creative with their choices. I mean, adding killer to former trio is just murder+LB. And adding Nightmare to Murder is just easy clicks.

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but I like a trio more on it's lore, so creativity is a big part on that. Fail on creativity, most likely fail on the trio.

@gabrielangeldiaz1531

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure he made poll but everyone literally went to pick killer and there were others like ultra tale and betrayer or ukb I think lol

Would for the quintet would you add UKB or COTV

@MixMasterJ1221

2 жыл бұрын

Golden said they would add Axetale on another comment, so ye

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

Ye, I'll add Axetale for quintet (if I ever make it)

Imagine if the fifth member was edge sans.

Killer sans !!!

Actually betrayer one unique choice for a fourth sans as betrayer starts in a pacifist timeline and thats Probably why he is confused in the end scene

the thumb was fixed lol

Now i wonder who will join them in former time quintet?

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

Axetale! Yes, I have decided beforehand.

@RomaKING2006

2 жыл бұрын

@@caramelcupcakes axetale? Lol i thought that au was forgotten long ago

@stanley8446

2 жыл бұрын

@@caramelcupcakes is axetale like an AT of horrortale or just another AU? (Consider i forgot about axetale)

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

@@stanley8446 You'd probably need to look it up yourself to understand what it is.

@stanley8446

2 жыл бұрын

@@caramelcupcakes hm if you say so

whos the 4th sans

Listen I love the music but hetnixira did a good job with it, at least to me, especially with phase 3

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

yes I do agree it's a good job but it was just a rip-off, a downgrade, a stereotype, and not new all at the same time

Er……,this is a stupid request: Can I reupload your FTQ songs to Bilibili? (Maybe you're tired of this, but I want to say it anyway. I'm sorry.)

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

maybe try to find if it's already there, if not, you're allowed, else, no-no.

Lb that has gone through his event and not sure if he can defeat the human Murder that has gone through mtt an mirrored events and lost his friends Insanity that has gone through mirrored events start feal guilt and see what good and bad Betrayal that has gone through the pacific rout and being happy ...not for long

"Not because they're bad, but whoever tries to do it does a big failure of a song/concept/anything." Ehh, I feel like Cheems549s take on Murder Time Quartet was really good, although I get what you're saying.

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

Well, I'm more of a fond of lore than music. That's even why ALL of my stuff has lore. (Except MKTT, and that's another reason why MKTT is my worst project.)

@Mystikwanderer

2 жыл бұрын

@@caramelcupcakes and let me guess. Some of it wouldn't make sense

Insanity : Can i Become Runaway Mode Now? Coz i already Tired to bring papyrus head to everywhere Lb : Wait For Gaster. Dust : ....... Betrayer : . . . . . ?

Hello

Not even second

PHASE 2

The drums are very loud and sound a bit distorted, but the rest is great! Good job.

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

I really don't see how they're very loud so either your headphones are altering the bass or you're using a volume app of some sorts

@meatyman4803

2 жыл бұрын

@@caramelcupcakes upon further inspection, my headphones made it sound much more distorted, disregard that part.

@enigmaticencounterlol3277

2 жыл бұрын

@@caramelcupcakes who are the members of former time quintet

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

@@enigmaticencounterlol3277 quintet: Axetale sextet: Experienced Past septet: Past, Present, Future octet: ApocalypseTale

@tophatskelle3161

2 жыл бұрын

@@caramelcupcakes didn't expect apocalypsetale but I kinda get it

Remember kids… If RedRum Comments on this video this officially Canon to Former Time Trio logic… :Trollsnas:

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

Yis

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

HE DID POG

@Nagamugen-Axieathoth

2 жыл бұрын

@@caramelcupcakes That's really pogchamp

@irenealbani2421

2 жыл бұрын

Uhm,I Think This version is not the only to be Canon because on The Video "Former Time Quartet" made by Hetnixira,Redrum320 commented in Hetnixira Former Time Quartet's Video too,If you didn't believe me,Here the video kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJ1_xNp7mba4oqg.html and you will see there is the comment of Redrum320,So I think the Hetnixira's Version And GoldenFlowers's Version Are Canon,So We Have 2 Canons Former Time Quartet 😂😂😂,Btw @GoldenFlowers you did a Good Job 🙂🙂🙂!!!

@redmantle8784

2 жыл бұрын

@@irenealbani2421 r/woooooosh

I feel like betrayer doesn't really match the "former" in the name but it still nice to see him

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

Well, my take makes Betrayer traumatized, so it still fits.

@tophatskelle3161

2 жыл бұрын

technically betrayer is a post-genocide pacifist timeline, then the human did a genocide on the surface which is why its called betrayer

Nice. 2 murders 2 innocents (3 murders? Cause human is fighting them?)

👀👀👀👀👀 So what will happen in former time quintet ? 😲

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

Quintet - Axetale Sextet - Undertale: Experienced Past Septet - Undertale: Past, Present, Future Octet - ApocalypseTale There you go. I added more for your liking or whatever.

@gamerkavyanshmetangaleyt6347

2 жыл бұрын

@@caramelcupcakes u have already prepared

@gamerkavyanshmetangaleyt6347

2 жыл бұрын

🆗

@lesleyguevarra5374

2 жыл бұрын

@@caramelcupcakes whatbis apocalypsetale ? Tell me the lore

I just realized that Your take of Betrayer was almost same As SunaooKami Shiroko (Blue Archive). Or maybe... :sus_eyes:

@lesleyguevarra5374

2 жыл бұрын

HUH ? why shiroko yes i do play blue archibe but.... The apperance hmm idk man its a little off

@TN_Kuhorizki

2 жыл бұрын

@@lesleyguevarra5374 i said "almost".

@lesleyguevarra5374

2 жыл бұрын

@@TN_Kuhorizki okie doki

hey golden can i make this song to fnf version ? can u give me midi ? i need midi

@caramelcupcakes

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe soon, but not now! Sorry-

@kaimusicchannel934

2 жыл бұрын

@@caramelcupcakes ok

Insanity,???,dust,???

@user-nc2be3wc8t

2 жыл бұрын

Last breath and betrayer

this upgrade from the virgin one

@hetnixira2332

2 жыл бұрын

Oi

@kodethecoder

2 жыл бұрын

@@hetnixira2332 lel