Forget WiFi! This Wireless Method is WAY Better?

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Wireless communication is awesome! Right? Only problem is that there are many different methods and techniques which all use different frequencies and sometimes require extra hardware. But if you do not want to spend extra money on hardware, then the ESP microcontroller boards offer WiFi and Bluetooth. Those only come with a "short" range though. So in this video I will test ESP-NOW which is a wireless communication method that can be used with the ESP boards. It gets rid of many disadvantages while not needing extra hardware. So let's see what it can do and ultimately push it to the limit by building a crude Walkie-Talkie. Let's get started!
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0:00 A New Wireless Communication Method?
1:46 Intro
2:53 The Problem with WiFi & BT
4:22 Extra Hardware?
4:33 ESP-NOW Theory
5:10 First Test ESP-NOW
6:20 Range Test ESP-NOW
7:30 Comparison of all Wireless Methods
7:59 Walkie-Talkie Build with ESP-NOW
11:32 Verdict

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  • @thenextproblem8001
    @thenextproblem8001Ай бұрын

    For those who don't know, Any ESP can be switched to external antenna with small soldering skills You can use espnow or espnow long range. Espnow can be used simultaneously with wifi if you need a Gateway but not recommended

  • @yasirrakhurrafat1142

    @yasirrakhurrafat1142

    Ай бұрын

    Woah! I was wanting to know if they can be used simultaneously. And if the range can be extended. 😂 Thanks mate. I'm not currently very techy, or anymore than a novice learner (programming). But I love this kinda shkit!

  • @JB-fh1bb

    @JB-fh1bb

    Ай бұрын

    @@yasirrakhurrafat1142 “Simultaneously” is a bit of a misnomer but it does work. The underlying method is that both ESP-NOW and wifi share the radio the same way multiple cars can share a single lane.

  • @yasirrakhurrafat1142

    @yasirrakhurrafat1142

    Ай бұрын

    @@JB-fh1bb would it mean that I'll lose the connectivity with the esp modules that are connected to the WiFi (router), when I use the esp-now? Or that the esp modules will extend the wifi range like a wifi extender to expand the base wifi (router) range to connect with the furthest esp device using the esp now connection?

  • @JB-fh1bb

    @JB-fh1bb

    Ай бұрын

    @@yasirrakhurrafat1142 great question. It's sharing clock cycle to clock cycle so you will maintain connection, but you will see lower performance on each and possible collisions if there is a lot of data going through each protocol.

  • @JB-fh1bb

    @JB-fh1bb

    Ай бұрын

    @@yasirrakhurrafat1142 As for the second part, they are separate protocols so ESP-NOW will not extend wifi

  • @CaseyConnor
    @CaseyConnorАй бұрын

    As others have said: the esp32 can function in AP wireless mode, so you can connect to it without a router involved. Additionally many (most? all?) can function in STA and AP mode simultaneously, so they can connect to a wifi net at the same time something is connecting to them. I do this and it works great.

  • @LuxBacelo

    @LuxBacelo

    Ай бұрын

    Didn't tried espnow yet but I have been uysing the method you describe for my last project and sometimes depending on the environment it stops working. It's not a software problem as if the device are close (like 2 meters) it works perfectly but when the distance is larger the client device doesn't find the AP or it disconnect after a few minutes. I'll try espnow as it looks like the definitive solution for my problem.

  • @CaseyConnor

    @CaseyConnor

    Ай бұрын

    @@LuxBacelo Are you using the built-in antenna or a module with an external antenna jack? I use one with an external antenna (DevKit-CVIE which uses WROVER-CVIE) and haven't had any issues, but I haven't really stress tested the AP range.

  • @LuxBacelo

    @LuxBacelo

    Ай бұрын

    @@CaseyConnor Built-in, sadly I don't have space for an external one.

  • @pixieh.9302
    @pixieh.9302Ай бұрын

    I'd like to give you a big thanks. Years ago I didn't even own a soldering iron. Thanks to your videos and inspiration-- I've tackled the basics all the way through to building my own ESC for an electric quad bike! Your videos are more than entertainment and/or tutorials-- they inspire and change peoples lives! Thank you Great Scott :). Thank you!

  • @CapnBry
    @CapnBryАй бұрын

    ESP-NOW really shines when it comes to low power designs, since it is connectionless. I converted a sensor over from wifi to espnow and it went from draining an 18650 in under a month to lasting over 6 months at which point I just ended the test. It should be noted that ESP-NOW does have a built in retry mechanism when used in unicast mode (which is when you tell it the destination MAC, i.e. not FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF). It will retry 11 total times at 11, 5, then 1Mbit, or even slower if "long range" is activated. This is important when you're going for a low latency connection like voice, that the total send time can be 0.1ms or 3-4ms for one packet!

  • @RohrAtom
    @RohrAtomАй бұрын

    Approx. 2 years ago, you was one of the KZreadrs that motivated me to start tinkering with electonics myself. Meanwhile I finished a few successful projects. For example, I have built my own telemetry system for my RC helicopters using ESP-NOW communication. I also built a „customer detector“ with 2x ESP8266, a sonic distance measuring module, a few LEDs and ESP-NOW communication. Great videos, GreatScott!

  • @gigabytegb

    @gigabytegb

    23 күн бұрын

    Great! Congratulations! I'm Engineer of Control and Automation here in Brazil and have some ideas for increase the usability, time of flight, logs, data aquisitions, positioning without GPS totally dependence, using cheaper drones, especially agricultural, and for grabbing cheaper internet signals in remote locations. Can you show me your projects?

  • @RohrAtom

    @RohrAtom

    23 күн бұрын

    @@gigabytegb Unfortunately I have not published anything so far. If I do I let you know.

  • @grey1185
    @grey11858 күн бұрын

    Also I have to say, I have been watching your videos for years now and its amazing to finally put them to good use now that I am in university and studying mechatronics. It definitely gave me a head start so I was able to properly understand and play with all the course content on electrical engineering.

  • @kindablue1959
    @kindablue1959Ай бұрын

    Very cool. There's so much happening in the microcontroller and wireless worlds these it's impossible to keep up, so I'm glad to see this. WiFi without a router - Thank You ESP!

  • @Tony-rl2fr
    @Tony-rl2frАй бұрын

    I love the WW1 sound of the esp transmission.

  • @fitybux4664

    @fitybux4664

    Ай бұрын

    Video killed the radio star!

  • @sonkira

    @sonkira

    26 күн бұрын

    Fallout vibes

  • @smesui1799
    @smesui17992 күн бұрын

    WiFi ( Wide Fidelity ). Initial development began in 1989 and was first commercially introduced in 1997. Still the gold-standard !

  • @saitamatechno
    @saitamatechnoАй бұрын

    best feature for espnow is "transfering data quickly" from my experience. And i did not know the lora module is in the low speed category as you showed in the video, thanks for it. Comments are very informative! Thank you all, maker community!

  • @dacomputernerd4096

    @dacomputernerd4096

    Ай бұрын

    I recall looking into LoRa for one project. It's in the kilobits range, if I recall correctly. On the other hand, it seems the range is measured in miles.

  • @nikthefix8918

    @nikthefix8918

    Ай бұрын

    @@dacomputernerd4096 LoRa latency is very high too - compared with esp-now.

  • @muhammadahsan7841
    @muhammadahsan7841Ай бұрын

    Almost 3 years ago i have created a complete system based on ESP Now as a part of my FYP. It includes ESP now gateway, multiple sensors and actuator nodes, complete custom backend and mobile app for controlling everything. I made some modification to esp now based systems to increase it reliability as esp now is based on udp. Also everything is dynamic thanks to the esp now gateway i have designed. ESP now is very great low power protocol only if we use it properly.

  • @rchilro

    @rchilro

    Ай бұрын

    Hi Muhammadahsan, this would be great to share. Do you have a link to your project? I would be interested ffor Example. I need to change my sensors arround and espnow maybe the way. Thank you! And thanks @greatscott for this video!!

  • @hxtec32
    @hxtec32Ай бұрын

    I made a little 150g combat robot using an ESP32-C3-MINI-1, and, can confirm, ESP-NOW is indeed awesome. I put the robot in my house, then walked outside, past my gate, and it still worked (probably 30m or so). Past that it stopped receiving signals though, probably because my transmitter ESP32 was very small and had a chip antenna which was probably low gain (not to mention the antenna had no ground clearance or anything. Thanks for your awesome videos GreatScott!

  • @name_is_taha
    @name_is_tahaАй бұрын

    I have found out that if you use the ESP-32 Dev Modules that has external antenna connector you can greatly improve the range.

  • @sean2k54
    @sean2k54Ай бұрын

    THANK YOU! This video is exactly what I have been trying to research for my project. Alternatives to all the other wireless standards. I use ESPs from adafruit and never knew about ESP-Now. Your channel has informed me about soooo much! Thank you!

  • @greatscottlab

    @greatscottlab

    Ай бұрын

    Glad I could help :-)

  • @familyplans3788
    @familyplans3788Ай бұрын

    Great video (as always) I love ESP-NOW as i dont like having my stuff connected to the internet for obvious reasons and you are only scratching the surface of what ESP-NOW can do, looking forward to the projects you have lined up for it

  • @greatscottlab

    @greatscottlab

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback :-)

  • @TD-er
    @TD-erАй бұрын

    ESP-NOW is nice to play with, but it does have some quirks you need to know or else you will loose a lot of time debugging it. For example, you better not use the full 250 byte payload length as this tends to work less reliable. Better stay below 200-ish bytes per packet. Also it seems like ESP-NOW does do some acknowledgements as the round-trip time increases when you extend the range. Like it does seem to lower the bandwidth and thus increase the possible range. You need to set the MAC address as peer for sending to some other node, but not for receiving. So you can make it more dynamically with some coding effort. The maximum number of peers you can set depends on whether or not you use encryption. And from experience, the broadcast feature tends to work even more unpredictable when adding more peers. So do not rely on broadcast packets. Also there is some really odd stuff going on with the ESP radios when using any channel other than channel 1. So best to stay on channel 1 unless you have a very good reason to use another channel (e.g. when STA is connected to some other AP to try and use as a gateway) You also need to set the channel when adding a peer, as the ESP-NOW code will remember the channel for a specific peer and if for some reason it assumed the peer was on another channel, you will see really poor performance as the radio needs to switch channels constantly. You need to have a stable power supply when using an ESP-NOW node via its AP interface as this is constantly on. This is the fastest and most reliable mode for nodes that can be always powered as you will less likely miss a packet. You can send packets via the STA interface, but only use this for nodes that really need to save the last bit of energy like some wake-up, fire and go to sleep again. In all other situations, use AP interface for ESP-NOW traffic. This also allows to properly set the channel. If you keep all of these in mind, then ESP-NOW can be a really fun protocol to experiment with and the distance can get surprisingly long between nodes. It also is quite fast as you mentioned. Like a few msec round-trip-time is to be expected when using the AP interface.

  • @Nono-hk3is

    @Nono-hk3is

    Ай бұрын

    You need to publish this somewhere, like maybe in a GitHub gist

  • @bigtexuntex7825

    @bigtexuntex7825

    Ай бұрын

    Reliability is linear to payload size. So 200 is good, but 25 is much better. It has to do with the rf environment, such as competing noise makers and the gap between /their/ packets you need to exploit for a successful transmission. I have seen devices that send tiny packets completely disrupt anything with larger packets.

  • @zyghom

    @zyghom

    Ай бұрын

    "You need to set the MAC address as peer for sending to some other node,'" - that is NOT true. ESPnow supports broadcast to all who listens. "The maximum number of peers you can set depends on whether or not you use encryption." - true but partially. If you delete peer you can have unlimited of them. "Also there is some really odd stuff going on with the ESP radios when using any channel other than channel 1" - completely not true - my network works on all channels but 1. "You also need to set the channel when adding a peer," - not true - you can send on all channels one by one and hope someone will finally receive

  • @alysdexia

    @alysdexia

    Ай бұрын

    not nice < niais < bravos := not-skilled but you are; can’t write adverb/adjective nor chain a nonprospective verb; fast → swift; will → shall; try _what?_ and use

  • @pllagunos

    @pllagunos

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks for the suggestions. I have a network of 3 esp-now devices, where the 3 devices are gathering data and one of them pushes this data to a web server. For that what I do is set this ESP device to WIFI_AP_STA mode. The issue is that this will set this device in the same channel as the wifi network, so what I do with the other non-wifi ESP devices is to search the channel of the wifi ssid. This solution was sort of working for some months, but in the last weeks I've been getting disconnections way more often. Since I need reliability on my system, I am looking for solutions but can't think of much. Do you have an idea on how to approach this issue?

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreationsАй бұрын

    Brilliant, dude! Fantastic project!!! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

  • @ShafaqIftikhar-pw9ld
    @ShafaqIftikhar-pw9ldАй бұрын

    Very lovely insight. Thank you for the upload!!!!!!❤

  • @nathanielakkermans
    @nathanielakkermansАй бұрын

    ESPnow is super cool, and there is also a long range mode. That in combination with the wifi on the lowest bitrate and some external antennes(but just simple 2dbi ones) i got 2,5km of bi directional communication. But i have to say it was mounted on a rc plane

  • @greatscottlab

    @greatscottlab

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback. Sounds promising :-)

  • @Jefferson-ly5qe

    @Jefferson-ly5qe

    Ай бұрын

    Wow that's serious range!

  • @Sohailkhan-zw1gl

    @Sohailkhan-zw1gl

    Ай бұрын

    do u have github repos for your projects?

  • @nathanielakkermans

    @nathanielakkermans

    Ай бұрын

    @@Sohailkhan-zw1gl i dont store my projects in git. But if you look for espnow long range mode then you find the examples. But external antennes do the trick. And remember a had one side on a plane in the air so these kind of range you dont get that in the ground

  • @outstanding1403

    @outstanding1403

    Ай бұрын

    @@greatscottlab I would really like a long range test from you :)

  • @SeMoDrix
    @SeMoDrixАй бұрын

    I recently used ESP8266 with wifi for a project to switch alot of relais and with multiple esp‘s. Yes you need a gateway and a server but the communication was super fast and also secure with certificates.

  • @silverjohnson3163
    @silverjohnson3163Ай бұрын

    I'd never heard of this protocol. Thanks!

  • @g-whiz286
    @g-whiz286Ай бұрын

    When I was in college (circa 1985), I built a one-way digital audio link (in this case using an LED and a photodiode) that employed a delta modulator (Analog Devices chip ?). The key benefit of the delta modulator is that the bit rate is low as data is only sent when the audio waveform is changing. I was quite impressed by the fidelity I achieved well below the Nyquist theorem.

  • @jimbotron70

    @jimbotron70

    25 күн бұрын

    Impressive for the era.

  • @gigabytegb

    @gigabytegb

    23 күн бұрын

    Congratulations! Did you transmit data by light with IR LEDs?

  • @g-whiz286

    @g-whiz286

    23 күн бұрын

    @@gigabytegb - That's correct. I remember that I had to put a shield (tube) on the IR phototransistor because the front end was being swamped out (poor design on my part) from stray IR.

  • @reinux
    @reinuxАй бұрын

    I put together a zigbee network for my old workplace. Super low power, totally open protocol with encryption and mesh networking by default, works with a ton of off-the-shelf stuff (like IKEA lights and buttons), no single point of failure except for setting up the initial connection. Industry routinely tries to kill it off beacuse it's really not that profitable and makes external data collection more difficult, but for users, it's really an ideal protocol.

  • @CubiCNooBiC
    @CubiCNooBiCАй бұрын

    ESP Now is "proprietary" technology it can be used only between ESP32/8266 modules, and that makes it useless for 90% of the projects...

  • @rikka0_059

    @rikka0_059

    6 күн бұрын

    ESP NOW uses the vendor-specific action frame of Wifi, the protocol itself is well documented. In theory, you can use any Wifi device to send an ESP NOW frame.

  • @Mr.Engine993

    @Mr.Engine993

    Күн бұрын

    an esp8266-01 can be connected to whatever board you are using each time. Plus there are ongoing attemps at ESPNOW libraries for android. Maybe in the future its compatibility will be better

  • @bethaltair812
    @bethaltair812Ай бұрын

    Its astounding how capable esp32 is...theres so much just built in! Coming from arduino nano to esp32 is a lot of fun :)

  • @tomweickmann6414
    @tomweickmann641414 күн бұрын

    I admire your ingenuity. Way too much work for a novice like me.

  • @dentarinc7214
    @dentarinc7214Ай бұрын

    I am DEFINITELY going to look into ESP-NOW as a (potential) replacement for RF24 modules. The RF24 modules are great so far, but could do with getting rid of the extra wiring.

  • @pomegranatechannel
    @pomegranatechannelАй бұрын

    FYI Router is not mandatory. Two wifi devices can connect directly through Wi-Fi Direct protocol.

  • @ElektorTV
    @ElektorTVАй бұрын

    Excellent Video! Thank you!

  • @mr.anonymous298
    @mr.anonymous298Ай бұрын

    Thank you sir, this seems super interesting to me! 😊😊

  • @tysondeal4369
    @tysondeal4369Ай бұрын

    Love your videos Great Scott! Thank you for creating. I’ve learned a lot from watching your channel.

  • @greatscottlab

    @greatscottlab

    Ай бұрын

    My pleasure! :-)

  • @sorinl8467
    @sorinl8467Ай бұрын

    Good video. But your comparison may generate some confusion. 433Mhz it's a frequency but Lora it's a modulation protocol. 433Mzh have been used for quite long time before Lora but here in EU Lora transmissions use same frequency plus 868Mhz. Living in Germany you must know that this country have a strong Meshcom community. For those who don't know Meshcom it's a Meshstatic like project that use only 433Mhz frequency.

  • @uni-tek4471
    @uni-tek44714 күн бұрын

    this is good, I like the presentation. I hope to extend the range even further with an external antena

  • @eliasnassour366
    @eliasnassour366Ай бұрын

    GreatScott you inspired me a lot, thank you!

  • @greatscottlab

    @greatscottlab

    Ай бұрын

    My pleasure! Thanks for watching :-)

  • @CooLDEaFY4204Me
    @CooLDEaFY4204MeАй бұрын

    Great Scott, Thank for video.... 😊

  • @MrChanw11
    @MrChanw11Ай бұрын

    ESPnow reminds me of the ELRS (ExpressLRS) protocol for hobby rc controllers. Very efficient, long range, and also 2.4ghz.

  • @marekjakimowicz
    @marekjakimowiczАй бұрын

    Thanks. It's something new for me, and it's interesting.

  • @photocanonn
    @photocanonnАй бұрын

    thanks bro! awesome project

  • @KC-pf4tj
    @KC-pf4tjАй бұрын

    I didn’t know about espnow or espnow long range! Cool video…. Thanks so much!

  • @the_smart_home_maker
    @the_smart_home_makerАй бұрын

    Awesome, thank you 🙏

  • @phoperdox_sore
    @phoperdox_soreАй бұрын

    Just a side note that if you have multiple ESP32 boards communicating with each other via ESP-NOW especially for fast data transfer applications (like RC Car), there might be noticeable lags in the data transfer (but no data loss I think) until you leave only one ESP32 pair communicating. This is, from what I have experienced, due to too much activity in the ESP-NOW channel you set for each ESP32 pair. There are a few lines of code mentioned in the Espressif docs that allow you to change the channel, just like WiFi, but it was not obvious (at least for me) :(

  • @zyghom

    @zyghom

    Ай бұрын

    setting channel is one command: esp_wifi_set_channel(channel, WIFI_SECOND_CHAN_NONE);

  • @nikthefix8918

    @nikthefix8918

    Ай бұрын

    In Broadcast mode (one to many) there is no acknowledge even tho the ack callback function reports a successful transmission. For exclusive pairs - point to point - the ack reports successful reception so decent flow control is possible in this scenario. Of course, a manual broadcast with full acknowledgement can be achieved by iterating thru a list of peers sequentially. This should be fast enough to be practical.

  • @user-go1tn9yd5q
    @user-go1tn9yd5qАй бұрын

    and he did it again he connected the voice source without directly without any filters.

  • @urgaynknowit
    @urgaynknowitАй бұрын

    I love your videos, they are soooo informative, easy to follow, and just overall great quality

  • @napiton
    @napitonАй бұрын

    Video of Zigbee network using a full set of ESP32 C6/H2 as a Coordinator,Router,End Device mode and as a HA bridge would be Super 👌

  • @PrajjalakChattopadhyay
    @PrajjalakChattopadhyayАй бұрын

    WiFi interference of ESP32 is a big problem. I faced it for the first time when I was designing a super stable and noise-free power supply for some specific project of our lab. The power supply output voltage was being controlled by the ESP. The WiFi interference was adding noise to the output voltage. Later we switched to STM32.

  • @TarzanCHG
    @TarzanCHGАй бұрын

    And one suggestion for next esp project is esp wireless surveillance camera with auto motion capture, sending the footage to it's IP address and maybe on google drive or local storage if it's possible somehow. You can use SD card module for storing footage but it's got a lot of limitations you know. And to power all of that, utilizing a solar cell would be fascinating idea. That could be a great project IMO. Hope you'd think about it. Thank you so much BTW for your hard work and teaching us so much that no one could. #Respect

  • @stefanwelker956
    @stefanwelker956Ай бұрын

    one of the best things about ESP Now is its really low latency. It does not guarantee delivery, like udp, but to send then receive a packet takes under 1 ms . I have measured this myself.

  • @johnslugger
    @johnsluggerАй бұрын

    *I served in the Ukraine Military from 2022 to 2023 and got hurt and came back to California (That war is SO brutal that 70% of us volunteers DIE!). The cool thing is I still work with my old Squad over in Ukraine. Several times a month I fly a drone mission loaded with a Hand-Grenade and deliver them to our Russian friends in the trenches LIVE! Thanks to StarLink I can connect my cell phone here directly to a drone in Ukraine with a LIVE video feed!!! What a world we live in!*

  • @dr_jaymz
    @dr_jaymzАй бұрын

    esp now works really well I use it a lot. Where it gets tricky is with wifi / bluetooth at the same time.

  • @GreenAppelPie
    @GreenAppelPieАй бұрын

    i was just recently thinking about how how 20 years ago about how cheap but capable micro controllers changed so much. Now everything needs to also be wireless and have an app. Sure, I think it's overused sometimes but its also useful as well

  • @jamesphillips2285
    @jamesphillips2285Ай бұрын

    You also need filtering to filter anything above the Nyquist frequency: otherwise you get aliasing.

  • @cpK054L

    @cpK054L

    Ай бұрын

    He just needs to LPF at the highest frequency voice band, 16kHz RC should be enough. Nyquist is the ideal sa pling frequency, because beyond that rate starts causing follower issues. You can see this on MatLAB and in real-life

  • @Mr.Engine993
    @Mr.Engine9933 күн бұрын

    I've found that a great application for ESPNOW is RC vehicles. It's pairless so no more waiting for connection, and communication is the most reliable it can be. The transmitter sends regardless of the state of the receiver. It's also fast enough to send data to it over 10 times per second, giving RC vehicles lightning-fast responsiveness. Moreover it has a long range which is again ideal for RC. And it also needs very little power so you dont have to worry about the wireless communication eating through your batteries

  • @urgaynknowit
    @urgaynknowitАй бұрын

    It’s like you redid 1930’s radio tech but with Wi-Fi and other frequencies, wicked cool

  • @Rev22-21
    @Rev22-21Ай бұрын

    I don't have a wifi range problem myself. I can transceive approximately one mile without a bridge. Granted it is a commercial building to building system but I see your point. 😅

  • @cipanmandul
    @cipanmandul28 күн бұрын

    Im using ESP Now also for mesh ad-hoc network setup of my group of ESP32 devices.

  • @vladimir0rus
    @vladimir0rusАй бұрын

    For the Bluetooth you also can use a Long range mode which increase distance significantly.

  • @Homeuser3231
    @Homeuser3231Ай бұрын

    Great video as usual. Can you consider making a followup with a version of ESP32 with external antenna connection ?

  • @SirDella
    @SirDellaАй бұрын

    3:00 WiFi is a bit slower but not that much, the response time is pretty much instantaneous, notice that the request isn't being sent as soon as you release the button (look at the reload wheel on the top right)

  • @Hal-Zuzzu_Model_Railway
    @Hal-Zuzzu_Model_RailwayАй бұрын

    Thanks for this inspiring video :)

  • @ianhawkins4979
    @ianhawkins4979Ай бұрын

    Großartig. 👏🏽

  • @davidkotval1183
    @davidkotval118327 күн бұрын

    The slow response time problem for wifi is likely due to Nagle bandwidth shaping. You can get insanely rapid responses over a tcp connection if you disable Nagel (which you can do when you establish the tcp connection). Always something to try depending on how much of a delay you notice.

  • @luthodyiki5902
    @luthodyiki5902Ай бұрын

    Thanks for the video. I’m currently working on a project that involves energy consumption from the chillers I just want my devices to sense whether I’m using generator/Grid, since the feed change over is 20m away from the chillers. Hopefully ESP32 Now gonna solve my problem

  • @chrismanson3859
    @chrismanson3859Ай бұрын

    I would love to see total cost for a project go on that awesome comparison table you had there ❤

  • @MoritzvonSchweinitz
    @MoritzvonSchweinitzАй бұрын

    I know there are many DIY guides and 3D printed projects - but I would really love to see a open source (or at least hackable and reflashable) ESP32 based walkie-talkie in a 'real' rugged case.

  • @RaOne-gk3ok
    @RaOne-gk3okАй бұрын

    Thinking of using it for every robotics controller now onwards

  • @blenderbuch
    @blenderbuchАй бұрын

    We covered esp now in the german make magazin in issue 3/22 😊

  • @isaiahfreerksen334
    @isaiahfreerksen334Ай бұрын

    Great video as usual. Have you ever measured the latency between the input and output of those different systems? I am curious if the ESP-now is better in terms of latency.

  • @McNificoTube
    @McNificoTubeАй бұрын

    I've been wanting to use ESP-now from the start in one of my IoT projects, but haven't gotten around to it yet. While all my IoT boards come with GSM capabilities, WiFi is the more popular choice. However, when WiFi isn't available, using multiple IoT + GSM connections in one location gets expensive. So, I'm thinking of using one IoT device as an ESP-now internet gateway for the others. Time to put this idea to the test!

  • @name_is_taha
    @name_is_tahaАй бұрын

    I’ve been waiting for this video for so long 🎉

  • @greatscottlab

    @greatscottlab

    Ай бұрын

    Hope you liked it :-)

  • @MegaTechno

    @MegaTechno

    Ай бұрын

    Same!

  • @codebeat4192
    @codebeat4192Ай бұрын

    3:14 That isn't true, you can make a private network between modules without a router and when you do this with websockets it blazingly fast. Range can also be pretty good.

  • @bielespolet4388

    @bielespolet4388

    Ай бұрын

    Hey do you have any link or info about this? I want to learn more about it. Thanks

  • @ThebusWay76
    @ThebusWay76Ай бұрын

    Thanks for the video, I would like to know if this board could be used for a wireless controller or diy wireless sim racing wheel.

  • @dark4evermgk115
    @dark4evermgk115Ай бұрын

    Really cool!

  • @billferner6741
    @billferner6741Ай бұрын

    I am surprised that ELEKTOR is still alive. I started this magazine in the 70s and made many projects over a period of 15 years. Later, I purchased only the double issue in August.

  • @ElektorTV

    @ElektorTV

    Ай бұрын

    Of course we are! :)

  • @fitybux4664

    @fitybux4664

    Ай бұрын

    @@ElektorTV $20/mo for a magazine seems expensive!

  • @ckafam
    @ckafamАй бұрын

    Hi. Thanks for the video. Can you create a mesh with this?

  • @thesimplicitylifestyle
    @thesimplicitylifestyleАй бұрын

    This would be good for robotics, less wires and energy loss! I'm interested in what you're going to create!

  • @Dewal4
    @Dewal4Ай бұрын

    Try hc12 433. Eazy to use. Based on only 4 pins to module. Range to 1 km outside

  • @Cha0sNicr0
    @Cha0sNicr0Ай бұрын

    Now ESPNow is obviously awesome for embedded devices. But with the problem description I immediately thought of ad-hoc-wifi/wifi-direct, which use the normal band and lack the gateway requirement of infrastructure mode. But I get that the point was to show off the new protocol.

  • @NutSure
    @NutSureАй бұрын

    สุดยอด 🤩 ขอบคุณ

  • Ай бұрын

    Love the content, hate the soldering, that thing gave me nightmares...

  • @fritzlb
    @fritzlbАй бұрын

    Did you try out the long range mode too? In my experience that makes a huge difference, the only downside is a smaller bandwidth

  • @greatscottlab

    @greatscottlab

    Ай бұрын

    Actually only tried out the standard mode since that was already good enough for me.

  • @mrwho30
    @mrwho30Ай бұрын

    7:01 That's quite the "out of range". 🤣

  • @bhuvan1036

    @bhuvan1036

    Ай бұрын

    wait how did you watch it 10 days ago? member?

  • @DJMANDY467

    @DJMANDY467

    Ай бұрын

    @@bhuvan1036 huh

  • @greatscottlab

    @greatscottlab

    Ай бұрын

    @@bhuvan1036 Patreon supporter 🙂

  • @Aragubas

    @Aragubas

    Ай бұрын

    @@bhuvan1036 true, how

  • @easyelectronics4364

    @easyelectronics4364

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@greatscottlab its high time now... Becoming a patreon supporter!

  • @smesui1799
    @smesui17992 күн бұрын

    Along the.lines of the 2.4gHz frequency, use has greatly expanded to RC ( Radio Control ) transmitters.

  • @johnhricko8212
    @johnhricko8212Ай бұрын

    Sounds like it's better for control data than sending audio. Have you checked out MIDI over Bluetooth?

  • @JS7457
    @JS7457Ай бұрын

    9:21 you said "Hello there" 😆 Is this a ref to may the 4th? 😂

  • @DamienLaRocque
    @DamienLaRocqueАй бұрын

    Is ESP-now still working well in an environment with lots of 2.4GHz noise ? (Like in an urban setting with lots of 2.4GHz Wi-Fi routers or with lots of microwaves)

  • @Stuie444
    @Stuie44428 күн бұрын

    Can any security protocols implemented? Seems very susceptible to MAC spoofing, etc. depending on use case...impressive for its size though!

  • @Chrislee0709
    @Chrislee0709Ай бұрын

    Ask which dashboard do you use for the blind control scene, i.e. which overlay on your cell phone that looks great (Homeassistant dashboard?)

  • @tapu_
    @tapu_Ай бұрын

    I stumbled on esp now just this morning

  • @daschacka
    @daschackaАй бұрын

    I think the only downside is that you need 2 devices then to communicate? for example my Esp32 wifi garage opener i can control with my phone and out of wifi also with port forwarding in my router

  • @mostrealtutu
    @mostrealtutuАй бұрын

    I miss the old intro and outro :)

  • @greatscottlab

    @greatscottlab

    Ай бұрын

    Sorry

  • @mostrealtutu

    @mostrealtutu

    Ай бұрын

    @@greatscottlab make sure to like... scher and subskreib... staaaaay creative aaaaaaaaaand iiiiiiiiiiii wiiiiiillllllll seeeeeeeeee youuuuuuuuuuuu nexxxxxxt tiiiiiiiiime :D

  • @imaginitivity7853

    @imaginitivity7853

    Ай бұрын

    If nothing else, it adds to your viewers viewing time with zero extra work from you!

  • @mostrealtutu

    @mostrealtutu

    Ай бұрын

    @@imaginitivity7853 nah its all good, i watch his cool videos either way, just have a little tear in my eyes during intro and outro hehe

  • @jj74qformerlyjailbreak3

    @jj74qformerlyjailbreak3

    29 күн бұрын

    That means you will remember it forever. Aww 🥰😍

  • @mikosoft
    @mikosoftАй бұрын

    Seems like the delay in the pushbutton example is around 200ms, which is quite a lot for applications like remote control.

  • @ranjitmandal1612
    @ranjitmandal1612Ай бұрын

    Great video

  • @connecticutaggie
    @connecticutaggieАй бұрын

    I agree ESPnow is a good protocol for ESP-ESP communications but, unfortunately, most of the projects I do, I use the RF connection for connection to a PC or phone for UI or data collection.

  • @maneeshs3876
    @maneeshs3876Ай бұрын

    Nice video, mesh networking algorithm implementation could be tested for the same form factor and specs.

  • @ozi2277

    @ozi2277

    Ай бұрын

    espNowFloodingMeshLiblary v2 from Leodesigner, for mesh network, i used this for my smarthome

  • @mrtechie6810
    @mrtechie6810Ай бұрын

    What would you use to reach the roof a few floors above in a concrete building? I want to add a remote controlled thermostat to my solar water heater.

  • @TarzanCHG
    @TarzanCHGАй бұрын

    I guess you know about it or at least have heard of it that you can use esp32 as a wifi repeater. That project would be great to test and push esp32 to it's limits

  • @stylesoftware
    @stylesoftwareАй бұрын

    I use those cheap $2 rf modules, and I get upto 2km if in sight, did you check the power setting? Orientation should be upright, and the antenna maybe needs length tuning.

  • @TheOleHermit
    @TheOleHermitАй бұрын

    Very interesting! I want to control a Teensy Laser Synth, remotely via MIDI. So, bandwidth is minimalized. Seems like a perfect solution, if transparent to the user. Great Scott! You've just added another year to my to-do list. Thanks! 😎

  • @nikthefix8918

    @nikthefix8918

    Ай бұрын

    ESP-NOW seems like a perfect candidate for wireless MIDI.

  • @xricsi1097
    @xricsi1097Ай бұрын

    I discovered ESP NOW a month ago. I was very excited about it, since I want to build a home automation system and this protocol looks ideal for the project. I saw a lot of videos about the range, it is much better than the standard wifi protocol. I built a little test circuit to check this range. Only two ESP32-s, one is switching the state of a bool twice in a second and transmitting the value, the other is receiving and write it to a little oled screen. I barely left my apartment, just closed the door and the signal was already lost. I thought, maybe the walls are too thick, so I put the transmitter to my balcony, and I went to the street in front of the house. Approx 12 meters only (4 story house), I saw the transmitter with my eyes, so no blocking at all, but I didn't get the value. Not impressed. However, it is pretty fast and responsible, so it will be the right choice to my project.

  • @tarakivu8861

    @tarakivu8861

    Ай бұрын

    After all its still 2.4GHz, which is limited, specially with such low transmission power

  • @cesarpadilla8358

    @cesarpadilla8358

    Ай бұрын

    you know, you should try it again but adding an external antenna for each

  • @PeetHobby
    @PeetHobbyАй бұрын

    The NRF24L01 works almost the same as ESP-NOW in BLE mode, which is what you used in this project. ESP32 BLE and NRF24L01 can communicate with each other. NRF24L01 was already in use before the BLE standard was certified in 2009, and products that used the BLE standard came much later. I still love the NRF24 series, it's cheap and easy to use.

  • @chadenfreude

    @chadenfreude

    Ай бұрын

    In the video, he states he got a 110 meter range. Are you achieving that with an NRF24?

  • @murraymadness4674

    @murraymadness4674

    Ай бұрын

    I'd really like to see examples of a esp32 talking to a nrf24l01 !! The esp wifi has a 20dbm power output compared to nrf24 1dbm, so if I can send via esp and recv via nrf24 that would work much better, the nrf can operate with almost zero power consumption.

  • @leocurious9919

    @leocurious9919

    Ай бұрын

    All the NRF24L01 I ever bough were extremely unreliable and if I happen to get it to work, it had abysmal range (say 10 meters). Yes with all the tricks like extra 100 µF cap right across and direct solder connections bla bla bla. Complete trash. Got a whole bag of them, since I tough maybe I have counterfeit ones and bought more from different vendors.

  • @szundaj

    @szundaj

    Ай бұрын

    @@leocurious9919 there are a lot of fakes out there, hope you didn't bought it from AliExpress

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