Forget about finding your ART STYLE, find a PROCESS you love instead

Finding your artistic style and voice is important, and it's something many creative people long for. But in my opinion, "finding your style" content gets more air time than it needs, and we need a lot more "finding your process" content to balance things out. This video breaks down a step by step method for finding an artistic process you love doing. And by finding a process you love, you will be willing to spend more time in that process, and by spending more time in that process, you will actually find your style!
So, my argument is basically this: for some of us, we can't find our style by looking for it. We just have to venture out on the creative road and try to find our stride, (our process) and trust that stride to bring us to a place where we can make the work we love. If you've been feeling creatively stuck and like you can't quite get in a rhythm artistically, this video is from me to you!
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  • @clairefrancis8740
    @clairefrancis87402 жыл бұрын

    I have actually been subconsciously implementing this advice over the last few months and feel like I have really turned a corner now. I completely agree that focusing on the process is key and we need to shout this from the rooftops!!

  • @caramazzola2399

    @caramazzola2399

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel the same way!

  • @fricka4798
    @fricka479810 ай бұрын

    for a long time i tried to replicate the style i saw in the tutorials i chose to watch, which is drawing cartoons starting with a sketch, then clean black lines, then flat color. i could never finish stuff because i hated doing detailed clean lineart and often failed at making it smooth. flat coloring felt boring and tedious, especially with colored pencil. things changed when i realized that process wasnt for me. i switched to using paint, pastels and colored pencil to do a painterly style where i layer colors on continously. it feels messy and expressive, and im constantly adding new elements when i add the colors and shading, instead of just tediously filling in lines i already set out like a coloring book

  • @WadstAAr
    @WadstAAr6 ай бұрын

    I WAS LITERATELY THINKING ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY !! I realized that i will always feel motivated to do is 1) draw loose pencil work 2) trust in the inking stage to make fun creative decisions 😇😇😇

  • @user-dq2ym1nn9k
    @user-dq2ym1nn9k7 ай бұрын

    I cannot believe this content is free. It absolutely NAILS IT. Should be mandatory watching for all artists!

  • @kaitlinhoyt
    @kaitlinhoyt Жыл бұрын

    This is honestly the best videos I've seen regarding finding style. I'm like you (even with the rhythm haha) and tend to get hyperfixated on stylization which always results in me feeling totally overwhelmed. I feel close to knowing what I want artistically, but it's been hard for me to differentiate between what kind of art I want to make versus what kind of art I'm attracted to, so it's really refreshing to shift my focus to what feels best. Thanks for this!

  • @chongyuzhao4809
    @chongyuzhao48094 ай бұрын

    You have no idea how much you helped me…. I’ve always been chasing other artist’s style that I loved, but I have always hated the process of doing it. It has bothered me for a long time until I heard you say enjoying the process is also important. I’m in the process of finding my style now, thank you so much.

  • @lisablue6020
    @lisablue60206 ай бұрын

    Really great advice. I sort of tried this early this year after noticing I basically dread doing art, put it off on the least excuse, and yet I know it's want to do. There just seems to be this problem about actually doing it and I realised I don't enjoy it any more. So I started experimenting with different processes, but unfortunately as soon as I found something that worked a little bit better I stopped experimenting and tried to make myself do that process every day. Result: back to square one, I avoid doing art. This made me realise I stopped experimenting way too soon and I need to fight my tendency to be a hard taskmaster to myself, like you said if you enjoy the process you are using it's going to be way easier to progress!

  • @chelseawhite7117
    @chelseawhite71172 жыл бұрын

    This is some of the best artistic/creative advice I’ve heard since… I don’t even know when! Thank you so much for taking the time and brainspace it took to figure all these things out and make it such a valuable resource to the rest of us who are struggling 😅

  • @KendyllHillegas

    @KendyllHillegas

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow, thank you! I am so grateful to hear that!💗

  • @rosac8168
    @rosac81682 ай бұрын

    I think I find myself loosing focus when I try to even try to draw. I have downloaded so many apps and just never seem to stay in one place. I’m older and close to retirement age and jus t want to try something new in crafting . I love sewing,and have been playing with my cricut as well just seem to get stuck in a rut. I see so many people get started in less than a year on their small business and keep asking myself how the heck do I get started? Thank you for the tips I,ll keep watching your content maybe it will light that spark ❤

  • @paulinabm_
    @paulinabm_2 жыл бұрын

    I love the scientific approach you give to things. By giving us something we can measure and something to notice and look forward you empower us to achieve what we want. Style becomes less mystical and more approachable. I am very analytical so for me all of this advice is incredibly useful. 💕

  • @wendydashwood7879
    @wendydashwood7879 Жыл бұрын

    A big, BIG thank you from me. I've been stuck on and off for years! A friend suggested a while back that I should focus on the joy of creating and forget about the end result. But I couldn't quite get my head around that until I watched your video today. I am soooo relieved as it's been such a worry and so frustrating. I've made some notes as coincidentally today, I decided to take a long, hard look at what's not working. Looking at it in terms of a process experiment to evaluate how I actually feel about creating some projects instead of 'chasing the end product' is a massive paradigm shift for me. Phew!! That's a huge weight off my shoulders. You're awesome! 😊

  • @cchemmes-seeseeart3948
    @cchemmes-seeseeart39485 күн бұрын

    Great point to think about- don't let focus on style development take you out of creative flow/ involvement with the work, & too much into an evaluative mode. I'm about to embark on what I intend to be an intense period of style exploration, & I really appreciate that I heard this wisdom at this moment. Thanks.

  • @lalalaism1
    @lalalaism12 ай бұрын

    This is a great approach because it gives the analytic brain something to do by designing and running, and criticizing the experimental parameters rather than the work itself.

  • @Lenaboo3
    @Lenaboo37 ай бұрын

    This is the video I've been looking for! Thank you for laying out your thoughts and process. As an analytical overthinker who struggles with consistency, finding flow in my studio practice hasn't ever felt easy. It's always felt so much harder than I feel like it should?! I needed a framework for showing up while honing in on the processes and mediums that I like best and developing skills as I go. I have too many ideas, not enough focus. Also I need those constraints. Without them, there are infinite possibilities and I don't know what is the right choice!

  • @Blood_Rapture
    @Blood_Rapture Жыл бұрын

    this is brilliant and its basically how i ended up choosing the career ive been doing for over 10 years now: by picking what kind of work makes me lose track of time.

  • @genestone4951

    @genestone4951

    8 ай бұрын

    Yes. If you're regularly entering a flow state doing whatever you do, is a great sign that you've found your niche.

  • @joofark
    @joofark8 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much! I now (FINALLY) understand what is meant by the term "creative process."

  • @anndelise9493
    @anndelise9493 Жыл бұрын

    This fits with how I’ve been approaching my efforts to 'learn to do art'. After much money spent, and numerous mediums experimented with, I’ve finally found my preferred medium: gouache. I already know my preferred scale is basically whatever I can keep in a 'sketchbook' type setup. And I’ve been narrowing down my preferred subject to the landscape scenery styles I both like to look at (that make me feel clear and uncluttered) AND the style I feel like I’d be willing to gradually work towards. (5yos can paint/draw better than me atm.) I also know that I want a zen-like feel while I’m working on it…while applying a new 'rule'/understanding that I’m trying to incorporate into my improving abilities. (Like the 80/20 principle: what's one small thing that would take less than 20% effort to learn/incorporate (keep my zen) but would yield 80% improvement towards my preferred direction?) After each effort I ask myself “what did I like doing?” “What did I learn in the process of making it?” And “What one _small_ thing would I most like to change?” I write this on my sketchbook pages with the painting, so I can look back and see how much I’ve changed.

  • @user-ki1yc4vx2s
    @user-ki1yc4vx2s10 күн бұрын

    I've begun shooting photos on my phone recently. It's opening new aspects, such as including myself in them. I am beginning to sense this is revealing more "psychological"sides of me + my environment. My images are surprising me. I didn't know I'd even like phone photography. I am just seeing where it goes.

  • @RoseWildsmith
    @RoseWildsmith Жыл бұрын

    Wholeheartedly agree with this advice. I try to put the enjoyment of the process at the forefront of my art practice. It’s so easy to slip into focusing on whether you’ve made something ‘good’, but I have to keep reminding myself that art is a healing process for me, and that is what matters. The end results are almost inconsequential! Love your advice on experimenting to find just the right fit in terms of media, method, subject etc. Thanks for sharing ❤

  • @tinycuisine6544
    @tinycuisine65446 ай бұрын

    The KZread algorithm must read minds now, because this is exactly the video I needed today.

  • @lisengel2498
    @lisengel24986 ай бұрын

    Good advice to find a process you really like. My inspiration comes from dancing where I have worked both very freely with bodymindspace awareness, and experimenting with very basic movement possibilities and classical techniques in different styles - and I have been inspired from meditation and awareness training - combining that and using it freely in my drawing and painting processes. I love the stillness and the listening into the living moment - and to open into processes of improvisation 🙃🦋🦎🦉🦄🙂😀

  • @heatherh3457
    @heatherh34574 ай бұрын

    Oh my goodness. I 've been stuck for years and I don't even know why I keep trying. I'm always disappointed in what I do which creates a lot of anxiety for me, yet I keep coming back to it. I recently gained the mindset to just power through and discipline my self to work on my art consistently, telling myself it will get better. Your advise is the perfect compliment for directing this determination to get the best results. I love that you are so analytical which really speaks to my dominant tendance. Thank you.

  • @naturejelisabeth
    @naturejelisabeth11 ай бұрын

    such a beautiful perspective!! thank u so muxh 4 sharing!🌸🌞🌸👍🏻

  • @meisapieceapie
    @meisapieceapie Жыл бұрын

    This is exactly the advice I've been looking for. So helpful and pragmatic. Thank you!!

  • @mjpete27
    @mjpete272 жыл бұрын

    I do enjoy watching your videos and you always have excellent advice. I have been asked these and similar questions for years and the situations have changed quite a bit with social media but at the core, the road to becoming an Artist has remained the same. Belief in ones self is the true key to success and true happiness. Oh! and of course following these pertinent advice you have so generously offered! Have a lovely day Kendyll

  • @crisalidathomassie1811
    @crisalidathomassie1811 Жыл бұрын

    I found your channel and it is not a coincidence! I watched the entire video and let me tell you it was great! It brought many memories back when I had a pre-school and I implemented the Project Approach. The best and most important value of this project is the process. It has three phases, beginning the project, developing the project and concluding the project. It is the most enjoyable, learning tool for children and for adults. Thanks for the guidance. I love to paint with oils and I love the entire process. It takes me to another world of peace and joy. I paint in layers, which gives me the opportunity to change, add or delete anything right at the beginning. Congratulations and keep going! New subscriber! Blessings and take care.❤❤❤

  • @olivertalks121
    @olivertalks12122 күн бұрын

    thanks for sharing your advice. a short while ago i decided to figure out what kind of art i want to do, bc my art has been very random, so i did observational drawings of all the subjects i could think of to see what i liked, and recently been thinking about media/materials i like best: trying em all out! i would also add experimenting with your whole process to completing an image. you can use traditional/digital to help in areas that are frustrating, e.g taking a photo of a pencil drawing and working on top of that in software.

  • @angelinamichelle8474
    @angelinamichelle84746 ай бұрын

    Brilliant! Thankyou so much for sharing this!!!

  • @christianejehanneravallec
    @christianejehanneravallecАй бұрын

    Merci infiniment, c’est positif, stimulant, merci de votre approche intéressante et intelligente. 😀🙏🏻.

  • @donnabuttons1
    @donnabuttons1 Жыл бұрын

    Wow, what a brilliant video. I've never actually heard anyone talk about this. I think I needed to hear this! Thank you so much.

  • @jlm517rocks
    @jlm517rocks10 ай бұрын

    coming on this session actually confirmed being on track re engagement, interest, simplifying & flow state. Ty.

  • @meldixon1918
    @meldixon19182 жыл бұрын

    Love these thoughts, thanks for putting it all together!

  • @priyajoshi4838
    @priyajoshi4838 Жыл бұрын

    thank you soooo much, off to implement this now!

  • @EmelyVielma
    @EmelyVielma Жыл бұрын

    Amazing approach! Thank you so much!!❤

  • @purelotusheart
    @purelotusheart6 ай бұрын

    Very well said.

  • @annanordstrom4058
    @annanordstrom40585 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this! Some of the best advice I've heard and just what I needed now.

  • @NWong
    @NWong Жыл бұрын

    This was really helpful for me even though drawing is only a hobby it has helped me in my writing process too. Thanks.

  • @michelleodell1236
    @michelleodell12366 ай бұрын

    I'm so glad I came across this video. This makes so much sense to me and I'm going to do my first experiment this weekend. I've been saving so many things on Instagram and Pinterest but haven't actually spent much time creating. I hope this helps me get out of that rut.

  • @lindaschnitzer751
    @lindaschnitzer7517 ай бұрын

    This sounds worth doing. Thank you for sharing with us.

  • @lucying
    @lucying27 күн бұрын

    Wow this video is so great! Thank you! I haven’t seen something like this before and I’m really looking forward to trying out your process so I can finally reliably get into artmaking

  • @jzaylia1
    @jzaylia17 ай бұрын

    THANK YOU! I’m definitely going to implement some experiments. ☺️

  • @ohtheresheis8542
    @ohtheresheis85422 жыл бұрын

    The thing is...I have at least two different art forms that I really enjoy in terms of media, method and scale that I really love as a process, where I can feel myself in a flow state...but they are nothing the same or similar and I cannot find a way to join those cohesively

  • @jzaylia1

    @jzaylia1

    7 ай бұрын

    I’m in the exact same boat.

  • @user-dq2ym1nn9k

    @user-dq2ym1nn9k

    7 ай бұрын

    you are blessed with options !

  • @chrisneyman
    @chrisneyman4 ай бұрын

    I needed to hear this. Thank you so much.

  • @danarenfand3384
    @danarenfand3384 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing. I’m trying this!

  • @JRJackman-qs8ph
    @JRJackman-qs8ph6 ай бұрын

    Such great advice! thank you.

  • @toucandoit
    @toucandoit Жыл бұрын

    Really thank you for this, this is the best piece of advice I could get. Especially today that I was feeling a little bit anxious about my art career. I really appreciate it :)

  • @ruthk7571
    @ruthk75717 ай бұрын

    This was incredibly helpful! Thank you. 🙏🌈

  • @abeerjehan7039
    @abeerjehan70398 ай бұрын

    Valuable lesson for beginners and very well defined and photographed. Thank you

  • @bonsaidanceflow
    @bonsaidanceflow2 жыл бұрын

    This was so so helpful, thank you🤗

  • @BZSchnoodle
    @BZSchnoodle5 ай бұрын

    Advice I have never heard before! Amazing! Thank you!!! This may just get me back in touch with why I wanted to paint in the first place but got discouraged and quit.

  • @kathia4455
    @kathia44552 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the advice! I’m going to try the process! 😊

  • @KendyllHillegas

    @KendyllHillegas

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are so welcome! You got this, Kathi!💞

  • @itsdaksha
    @itsdaksha2 жыл бұрын

    This video was really good! Petition for kendyll to start her own podcast!!

  • @emilycobb838
    @emilycobb8382 жыл бұрын

    great video, thanks.

  • @suneethamay3615
    @suneethamay36154 ай бұрын

    You are an impressionist as famous artist Claude Money You could be one of them Why not you can! Good luck with your hard work!!!

  • @mojoribs
    @mojoribs4 ай бұрын

    This is exactly what I needed to hear

  • @psoik
    @psoik3 ай бұрын

    Thank you. I found this video extremely helpful as I have been going through some of these feelings while doing my art... feeling overwhelmed or not wanting to start something new. Maybe this will help me sort out why. I like the idea of starting out with one element or doing a small painting perhaps first.

  • @linsaraillustration
    @linsaraillustration2 жыл бұрын

    Thats very helpful. Thanku

  • @biamakani3548
    @biamakani35482 жыл бұрын

    Your videos always brighten my day. I wanted you to know that. Happy Valentines Day.

  • @megalodon.yeti.
    @megalodon.yeti.7 ай бұрын

    great advice, really helpful. full of help for a foo like me

  • @lourdesilago5128
    @lourdesilago5128 Жыл бұрын

    Thank-you

  • @Kozette88
    @Kozette882 ай бұрын

    The process! How you feel? That’s how I feel about landscape painting I feel NOTHING. However I am a novice and just began weekly classes. Trusting the process of my instructor.

  • @ElieBeth___
    @ElieBeth___2 жыл бұрын

    I’m currently in a rut so this video was super timely haha but no thank you for this advice. I will really make an effort to give this activity a real go, thank you so much!

  • @KendyllHillegas

    @KendyllHillegas

    2 жыл бұрын

    You got this! That's awesome, Claire!💗

  • @dawnholder8819
    @dawnholder88192 жыл бұрын

    Excellent advice!! Makes perfect sense!! My mind has been thinking along these lines, but I have not given myself permission to act on it. Thanks for sharing!

  • @KendyllHillegas

    @KendyllHillegas

    2 жыл бұрын

    Go for it! I'd love to hear where you end up and what you end up trying!💕

  • @monas7604
    @monas76042 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much, this is so helpful! Wondering if you could elaborate a bit more on the method? Do you mean "style" here? Thank you!

  • @lourdesilago5128
    @lourdesilago5128 Жыл бұрын

    I wanted to start to the basics as simple as possible it's drawing and emphasize the blending of colors. Thankyou for guiding me coz I am lost on what to do.

  • @c.k.m.8134
    @c.k.m.81346 ай бұрын

    genius!

  • @etbch
    @etbch2 жыл бұрын

    This is genius 👏

  • @KendyllHillegas

    @KendyllHillegas

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much, Elena!🙏💞

  • @noreennorton5811
    @noreennorton58116 ай бұрын

    This is really good information. I will be adding elements, including palette, tools/techniques, substrate-perhaps those fall under method...I’m not sure what term would distinguish between abstract/realistic/still life/figurative etc. my brain wants to create a grid where I can select the next combination of elements to play with! Anyway...Thanks!

  • @farahabid3743
    @farahabid37432 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Kendall for yet another beautiful video full of honest reflections and useful advice. As you were speaking towards the end on how we need to focus more on the process and less on the final product, I was reminded of an amazing book I recently read : ‘Four Thousand Weeks’. I think you will really enjoy it. Thank you again for the video!

  • @tinycuisine6544

    @tinycuisine6544

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the book recommendation. Have looked it up and seems great. Will but it soon.

  • @Asha_Viczsarai
    @Asha_Viczsarai7 ай бұрын

    Kendyll, such a valuable video! Only this morning I was writing in my journal, asking myself if it's the process of painting in acrylics in particular, that is contributing to why I'm so stuck and unable to create work. That perhaps I need to change something, switch things up. I've been so apprehensive about even showing up to start any painting. It seems obvious now, that if I don't enjoy the process at all, I'm not going to want to show up and do it. Thank you for making this clear for me! ❤☺

  • @FoursWithin

    @FoursWithin

    6 ай бұрын

    I paint in acrylic and really enjoy the advantages it has over oil. I sometimes wish it looked more like oil or even felt like oil and more or less it can. there's techniques for both of those requests. I'm curious what part you don't like. Have you tried both thin coats vs thick paint ? I prefer more of a thin multi layered technique most of the time. I hope you find a process soon that fits much better.

  • @ArtandGoblins
    @ArtandGoblins5 ай бұрын

    I think this is the route I'm being forced down I can't go by visual preferences alone, by what I like to see, because I like a wide variety of stuff, and if time were no object I'd be doing almost every visual aesthetic I could think of under the sun. Process wise I alrwady discovered I have had to write off anything that requires full lineart, I never enjoyed doing lineart as much as other aspects but a long covid-leftover tremor means I can't do any long slow delicate lines without extra tools and put simply I hate doing it now.

  • @Artist_Kevin
    @Artist_Kevin6 ай бұрын

    I decided to give myself "4" sessions for any work of art. Started structuring each session into milestones / goals and that established steps. KISS mindset and the results are my style. My style is surfing as my "process" improves and my skills are refined. I am blind to my style. My family and fans see it. I don't.

  • @KnotKingdom
    @KnotKingdom9 ай бұрын

    What is your advice when it comes to maintaining a consistent stylization across different subject matters? I am working on a personal mobile game project and have been trying to reconcile the visual choices I made for inanimate game pieces with other aspects such as character designs and landscape backdrops. For example I am finding the methodology I followed previously does not result in character portraits that look appealing. I think according to this video I should try varying the methodology for portraits but also somehow keep in stylistically in the same universe as my existing artwork?

  • @cory99998
    @cory9999811 ай бұрын

    Found this in making music, I developed some go-tos that help me get in the right headspace and find confidence. Otherwise I sorta just float aimlessly.

  • @user-dq2ym1nn9k

    @user-dq2ym1nn9k

    7 ай бұрын

    what are your go to's?

  • @cory99998

    @cory99998

    7 ай бұрын

    @@user-dq2ym1nn9k I need basic inspiration of some kind, usually a song that invokes something within me. When I can in my head boil it down to a simple idea that I can recreate and build off of, I'm usually somewhere good. Trouble comes when I try to make music without aim, I need something I'm already excited by

  • @abbyanderbard
    @abbyanderbard Жыл бұрын

    Came for some advice and left with several celebrity doppelgänger connections that you remind me of! You totally look like Karen Gillan and also CrunchyMom on KZread...and you move and speak like Jennifer Lawrence, wow!

  • @artist9330
    @artist933011 ай бұрын

    I've never fret about style. I've never understand what drives people to want to have it either

  • @genestone4951

    @genestone4951

    8 ай бұрын

    Quite simply, professional artists who establish notoriety, fame, and influence, ALL have a unique style. You can SEE a Warhol and know it's a Warhol. That's what galleries and collectors are looking for in a new artist.

  • @babbsromero3471
    @babbsromero3471 Жыл бұрын

    What if you have several processes that your loving??

  • @KendyllHillegas

    @KendyllHillegas

    Жыл бұрын

    Great! I would probably try committing to one for a period of time or for a set number of pieces, and then switching to another. It can be tough to progress and build skill (if that's what you want to do) when you're constantly switching between different processes. I think you can absolutely become very skilled at multiple processes, but it usually happens one at a time!

  • @photographyhouse1419
    @photographyhouse1419Ай бұрын

    wow u can talk :)

  • @jacquelineramirez9630
    @jacquelineramirez96303 ай бұрын

    What is an art process?

  • @benpedro80
    @benpedro803 ай бұрын

    Just a side note on your video , take a breath , Relaxe a bit , don't want to put you down or anything and it might be me I don't know(not an expert ) , I have a hard time following and It feels like you are in a rush . That's an opinion , you don't have to do anything about it , be you , and clearly it is working , (maybe just not for me) .Thanks for the info , on finding your style ..Mybe this is your style (and it is not for me ) . Cheers

  • @JGalegria
    @JGalegria6 ай бұрын

    You lost me when you started talking about struggling to find a rhythm. I just close my eyes and feel it. Used to go dancing all night and played percussion /djembe etc and rather than counting rhythm I just felt it. 😊

  • @suneethamay3615
    @suneethamay36154 ай бұрын

    I don't like horses. You know why? When l was 21 years old first time l became a fortune teller with coffee cup after having cafe with them l saw on her cup. I saw a horse there nothing else l told her immediately you are like a horse She didn't like that at all She hurt a lot. May be she hasn't forgotten that till this. Remains in silence is the best thing to gain best advantage Look at 33 years l didn't tell any one who my man was! See you bye!

  • @TatianaFedorovskaya
    @TatianaFedorovskaya6 ай бұрын

    You speak toooo fast.)

  • @FoursWithin

    @FoursWithin

    5 ай бұрын

    You can change the speed of any video.

  • @vivekagudmundsson9624
    @vivekagudmundsson96242 ай бұрын

    Im so sorry😢. But you talk tooo fast...you must slov dovn a little.but thanks...bye.

  • @Kewy_illustration

    @Kewy_illustration

    4 күн бұрын

    You can slow the video slightly by clicking the cog button on the video and changing playback speed :)

  • @marilynharber2101

    @marilynharber2101

    2 күн бұрын

    So many of these videos and demonstrations and even lessons are so fast. If you click on the little wheel at the top, you can select a speed I almost always have to slow things down.

  • @samanthairving5517
    @samanthairving55177 ай бұрын

    Talks tooooo much, I got lost....

  • @maureenflynn6877
    @maureenflynn6877Ай бұрын

    The first seven minutes is a total waste of time you’ve only been talking about what you’re going to discuss. I think you need to self edit, I’ve lost interest in what could have been informative.