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Forge World is dead. What now?

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  • @Kirioth
    @Kirioth3 ай бұрын

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  • @clinch4402

    @clinch4402

    3 ай бұрын

    I really doubt the efficacy of this magnet technique, how have you found it? It seems to me that a small, sharp knock would be enough to send miniatures flying around inside the box. Is that the case?

  • @Dumbmaster1

    @Dumbmaster1

    3 ай бұрын

    Worth noting that Warmag no longer ships outside of the UK, at least that's what their customer service told me two weeks ago, they were hoping to go back to international again if possible though

  • @jonscott6459
    @jonscott64593 ай бұрын

    It’s a real shame they didn’t redo the Macharius in plastic, instead of the Rogal Dorn.

  • @Deadjim17

    @Deadjim17

    3 ай бұрын

    100% The Rogal Dorn looks soooo bad compared to the Macharius. I've made it more paletable to my eyes but yeah would still rather a Macarius. Mortian Tank though do a model that fits the Rogal Dorn and looks more Macharius like though

  • @horriblypink

    @horriblypink

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@Deadjim17 its the Turret, to be honest, l saw it swapped with a Mortain Minis Turret, which is Forge World style and it already looked way better. It's just too bubbley and doesn't fit the look of any previous vehicle.

  • @jamesespinosa690

    @jamesespinosa690

    3 ай бұрын

    @@horriblypink I like that it doesn't fit the look of what came before. I like the diversity of design. It's a galactic empire. I've been waiting for more variance in the guard for decades now. They have different flavours of infantry, why not different flavours of armour? I like that it feels like a Sherman on steriods.

  • @CMTechnica

    @CMTechnica

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jamesespinosa690that’s the issue with it. The Dorn is the most generic unit in the Guard range. It’s a Tamiya M4 Jumbo with extra steps. That’s beyond lame, it’s lazy.

  • @CMTechnica

    @CMTechnica

    3 ай бұрын

    Definitely a shame they didn’t do the Macharius, especially since the workings for the plastic Malcador was happening, just not publicly announced until recently (and now they’re available). And since they’re pushing the Death Corps of Cringe so much, why not the tank they made famous, lorewise? Shameful, really. The consoomers in the Imperial Guard will slurp up this unfinished and lazy excuse of a tank because we haven’t had a proper 40k guard update, just an infantry refresh. The Dorn is the laziest thing I’ve seen from them in a long while. And Squats came back.

  • @jasonh.7661
    @jasonh.76613 ай бұрын

    It is real shame that FW is no more. The Imperial Armour series was great and really added an additional level of depth and storytelling to 40K. I remember when I went to Warhammer World back in 2005 when I was in the UK on a student exchange program and I really wanted to get an Eldar Phoenix Bomber but they were out of stock. The FW guy at store at WW told me he would phone the guys on the factory floor and have them cast me one for me to swing back by and pick up before taking the train back to London.

  • @graefx
    @graefx3 ай бұрын

    FW is from when GW was a hobbiest company run by fans. It was meant for people that wanted that next hobby challenge. Now GW is ultimately run by bean counters and not by people who just love the play. FW for its challenge and unique space doesnt fit into that new model of churn and max profits. And center piece models have now moved into the realm of how can we squeeze the most money out of people. I miss it was just about toy soldiers and just wanting to make cool stuff. We've come a long way from when White Dwarf had scratch build tutorials.

  • @poshboy4749

    @poshboy4749

    3 ай бұрын

    Ahh I see forge world kits weren't badly made, full of cracks, bubbles, and warped to hell - they are a challenge for experts.

  • @calebbarnhouse496

    @calebbarnhouse496

    3 ай бұрын

    Forge world may have had a point a long time ago, but the fact is forge world hasn't had a point, it's even more overpriced and uses some of the lowest quality materials, and lowest quality production care, forgeworld is just bad

  • @imthelizardking

    @imthelizardking

    3 ай бұрын

    maybe people just don't want to pay 300% more for models that come out of the package broken?

  • @bdog6160

    @bdog6160

    2 ай бұрын

    Lol when GW was run by hobbyists it nearly failed, now we have a functional business able to supply our plastic crack addiction and yet we complain still

  • @calebbarnhouse496

    @calebbarnhouse496

    2 ай бұрын

    @@bdog6160 almost like reasonable people don't suck dick for companies that price gouge them

  • @ArhainHainar
    @ArhainHainar3 ай бұрын

    This all ties in with the fact that gw stopped selling super glue

  • @BittermanAndy

    @BittermanAndy

    3 ай бұрын

    GW superglue was complete rubbish anyway.

  • @hankwest5662

    @hankwest5662

    3 ай бұрын

    GW sold super glue? They still sell plastic glue. Never seen citadel super glue though

  • @Daemonforge666

    @Daemonforge666

    3 ай бұрын

    BUT they sell Metal minis and resin minis, which are not forgeworld models.

  • @guleri

    @guleri

    3 ай бұрын

    @@hankwest5662 It was a thing, came in really small tubes and was a lot "harder" and more expensive to use than other brands.

  • @kristianjensen5877
    @kristianjensen58773 ай бұрын

    Fun fact, some err... reproduction sites still offer OOP Forgeworld kits and kits that are currently out of stock on the GW webshop, essentially making them a better a Forgeworld than current Forgeworld. An uhh... enthusiast entrepreneur having a better "Made to Order" service than GW, a triple-digit multi-million corporation, is just really, really sad.

  • @Notorious_G.O.O.S.E

    @Notorious_G.O.O.S.E

    3 ай бұрын

    Oh no who would do such a thing, what are these sites so I can best avoid them

  • @thanksskeletor4812

    @thanksskeletor4812

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Notorious_G.O.O.S.Enice try James, I will never betray my Chang

  • @rafindeed

    @rafindeed

    3 ай бұрын

    @@thanksskeletor4812 I made i joke once in my circle that my seller already named his kids after me because i spend so much in his store.

  • @jamesreed2888

    @jamesreed2888

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@thanksskeletor4812I get why people are hush hush about these sites so Mr workshop doesn't send a cease and desist, but how are people supposed to find out about these deals?

  • @WardenOfTerra

    @WardenOfTerra

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah, and enjoy acquiring cancer from the toxic industrial resin that they use. Play a VERY stupid game, and receive a very horrible prize.

  • @DJJohnnyFi
    @DJJohnnyFi3 ай бұрын

    Gargantuan Squiggoth survived. I hope that means it continues its such an iconic model for the ork range. Sadly though all the other ork FW stuff is gone! :(

  • @cecilsmith2061

    @cecilsmith2061

    3 ай бұрын

    AW WHAT! I MISSED OUT ON THE CHINORK WARKOPTA YEARS AGO, BUT NOW I'LL MISS OUT ON THE MEKA/MEGA DREADS TOO!?!

  • @100acatfishandwillbreakyou2

    @100acatfishandwillbreakyou2

    3 ай бұрын

    Not for long

  • @khalebrobertson9907

    @khalebrobertson9907

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@cecilsmith2061 alas, yes. They've gotten rid of all but the biggoth squiggoth

  • @ep1phany62
    @ep1phany623 ай бұрын

    I remember ForgeWorld first turning up in the Citadel Journal. GW has slowly lost its soul.

  • @fmvilla29

    @fmvilla29

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes, GW losing their soul seemed slow, but it feels like it all hit at once. We saw it coming, and BAM they've lost it all at once.

  • @RobbieB2606
    @RobbieB26063 ай бұрын

    If you follow gaming too, it’s been interesting watching both GW and Microsoft Xbox destroy so much goodwill recently for seemingly no reason at all. Corporate greed and ‘cost saving’ gone mad

  • @Mr_Waffle.

    @Mr_Waffle.

    3 ай бұрын

    Won’t someone please think of the shareholders 😢😢😢😢 /s

  • @WardenOfTerra

    @WardenOfTerra

    2 ай бұрын

    For no reason? It's called; corruption through capitalism.

  • @Irokenics
    @Irokenics3 ай бұрын

    Elysian Drop Troopers being dropped was the day forge world died for me

  • @klaykid117

    @klaykid117

    3 ай бұрын

    They truly lived up to their name. They were dropped

  • @Irokenics

    @Irokenics

    3 ай бұрын

    @@klaykid117 I'm dead 😂

  • @rustyshaklford9557

    @rustyshaklford9557

    2 ай бұрын

    I'm sure STL scans are out there somewhere.

  • @ba_commander
    @ba_commander3 ай бұрын

    I was spending about £200-300 a year on forgeworld before the legends changes... now I'm spending nothing.

  • @darkhighwayman1757

    @darkhighwayman1757

    3 ай бұрын

    I bought sanguinious and I'll probably not get anything else.

  • @sympylpyq634
    @sympylpyq6343 ай бұрын

    One thing that annoys me about forgeworld stuff going away is that... not all of it was actually weird, strange, or super specialist, and lots of forgeworld stuff actually filled really useful, cool niches in the armies that they're a part of. For example, I play Eldar - and while there are tonnes of things which very much fit into that "big cool weird centrepiece model that you only own to show off", like their titans and the really big forgeworld tanks, two units stick out to me as just a normal part of the day to day Eldar roster - The Hornet and the Shadow Spectres. The Hornet is just a fast, light tank that fills a niche between the Falcon chassis tanks and the Jetbikes/Vyper, and the shadow spectres are no more niche or weird of a concept than, say, Warp Spiders or Swooping Hawks, and fill some important niches in the army quite regularly. I bring my own Hornet to games regularly, and it doesn't feel off or weird - it just feels like an ordinary and honestly very fluffy and lore-friendly part of the Eldar range that has the curse of being cast in resin for some reason. There are tonnes of other factions which have important holes of their roster plugged by Forgeworld - for example, see everything in Custodes. It would be a shame to remove these kinds of units for the sin of being made of the same material as titans and weird tanks nobody buys.

  • @davidfeline5850

    @davidfeline5850

    3 ай бұрын

    Have a pair of Hornets and a pair of Lynxes. Both are just great fun to use. Really worried none of them will be available after our Codex drops...

  • @cabe_bedlam
    @cabe_bedlam3 ай бұрын

    The weird internal politics and "companies within companies" keeps me constantly surprised they can ever get anything done and still make any money.

  • @ens.8365
    @ens.83653 ай бұрын

    My mother recently passed and specifically left me a little coin to treat myself since we had no money growing up. Im fortunate to finally get a bunch of fw but now will never get to use them much. Horrible timing with no telegraphs on whats stayiny or going

  • @towelpartypanic

    @towelpartypanic

    3 ай бұрын

    Im sorry for your loss

  • @jamesstewart7784
    @jamesstewart77843 ай бұрын

    "you can still use FW in your games" - assuming your playing at games workshop and they allow you. I've been to a few stores that refuse forge world models to be played because "we can't sell them and they're not in the proper rules"

  • @rickyburtrand7818
    @rickyburtrand78183 ай бұрын

    They don't even want to support 2 - 6 year old plastic AOS models. Think you've called this right and Forge World is going the same way into Legends where models go to die. I think there will be a point somewhere down the road where they say a model has a plastic kit or it doesn't get made any more other than maybe titans.

  • @talonryckert6084
    @talonryckert60843 ай бұрын

    GW is just not making good decisions these last months

  • @Erikjust

    @Erikjust

    3 ай бұрын

    Well they wanted to suck on the teat of Woke and ESG, they need to be prepared to face the consequences of such decisions. They are already chasing away most of their whales with their move to femstodes. The price hikes are going to make even more players say "Zog dis" and go over to Ebay, recasters or 3d printers. Personally i think Macca´s comments on saving GW, is the right way to go if they want to last. If not the question will be whether they will still be around in 15 years or so or if they will have gone belly up by then.

  • @notknightbean

    @notknightbean

    3 ай бұрын

    I agree. Lot of reasons to be unhappy recently.

  • @Kubrzesz

    @Kubrzesz

    3 ай бұрын

    And how many purchases either of you made via FW and how much money did you spend there? If not much, well, there's your answer

  • @notknightbean

    @notknightbean

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Kubrzesz plenty of medusan immortals, gorgons, and an iron father + dread. I just wish my iron hands legion actually got some more love over just another imperial fist or SOH character. Least we have meduson now.

  • @ApocWorkshop

    @ApocWorkshop

    3 ай бұрын

    Years*

  • @TheMichaelb44
    @TheMichaelb443 ай бұрын

    I will be cautiously optimistic as I was confused as to why they didn't make the arvus lighter in plastic when they made the smaller legio imperiallis in plastic

  • @Deadjim17
    @Deadjim173 ай бұрын

    Been thinking it myself for the last year or two. No major releases, other than specialist games stuff and just constant churn of things slowly going out of stock to no longer for sale. The dropping of the DKoK Vanquisher and Demolisher tanks and going out of production is what prompted me to start my DKoK army and grab a few of those tanks before I never could again as they'd always been a dream army.

  • @NeumaghAnon
    @NeumaghAnon3 ай бұрын

    Warhammer is just becoming something that isn’t for me anymore

  • @Fufu0117

    @Fufu0117

    3 ай бұрын

    I'll buy your models

  • @acefromspace5843
    @acefromspace58433 ай бұрын

    Some of the best models are FW resin. Tau is an example that is now being hit with the changes with the Riptide variants going to Legends 😢

  • @AndrewMcColl

    @AndrewMcColl

    3 ай бұрын

    And yet FW resin almost always seemed subpar to the resin you got from other companies. As for the models, the ones that appeared in Imperial Armour never seemed to get the same amount of balance as those in the main 40k books (go go corporate silos!), so it's not surprising that the resin battlesuits were always more popular. I don't recall anyone ever raving about the stories behind them, just that they were 'better' than the usual variants.

  • @AK-tl2nm
    @AK-tl2nm3 ай бұрын

    The video is primarily focused on selection opposed to nature or the products. It’s worth considering how hand made resin models are very long in the tooth now. In a time when CAD allows for impossibly detailed kits that actually fit together the detail appeal of hand made resin simple isn’t there. We’ve also seen a significant number of these kits remastered in plastic including the malcador. While I am sad to see Forgeworld as a testbed go, the resin models themselves are of little appeal these days.

  • @calebbarnhouse496

    @calebbarnhouse496

    3 ай бұрын

    The resin models could still have a niche, low run numbers that exist primarily to fill out the universe, things like civilian vehicles, civilians, and similar stiff, but only if they had high quality resin and casted it correctly, rather then selling the lowest quality product as if it was made of gold by a master sculpture by hand

  • @MortenWill
    @MortenWill3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for informing me that i have the option of, when asked how I carry transport my minis, to simply answer "Beans!"

  • @ciaranmcgrath3135
    @ciaranmcgrath31353 ай бұрын

    Days going to Warhammer World to get the special bits was the biggest pleasure.

  • @Flight_of_Icarus
    @Flight_of_Icarus3 ай бұрын

    I wouldn't be surprised if all specialist 40k models are going to be gone in 5 years, even Titans and Aircraft

  • @benjaminstorace6699
    @benjaminstorace66993 ай бұрын

    Jordan Sorcery's videos on the history of Games Workshop, along with the numerous interviews with Key people who either have or still do work for GW, seem to indicate to me that many subdivisions under the GW moniker is just how they've always operated. AS such I'd be unsurprised that the same goes for ForgeWorld.

  • @michaelhowell2326
    @michaelhowell23263 ай бұрын

    I was alwaya against pirate China copies, but I can't afford thousands of dollars for titans and was forced into them. You can't tell the difference at all.

  • @BitzboxTV
    @BitzboxTV3 ай бұрын

    I miss what Forgeworld used to be. Some of their terrain pieces from the early days were so nice.

  • @mcpw2004
    @mcpw20043 ай бұрын

    My personal biggest hope is that we’ll see at least some of the popular kits transferred into plastic, because plastic is just so much more enjoyable to work with compared to resin for me

  • @TheJuggler444
    @TheJuggler4443 ай бұрын

    I'm not sad to see it go, Heresy 2.0 moving so much from FW resin to plastic was what kept me in the hobby and allowed me to get into heresy as 9th ed 40k pushed me away quick. Having the bulk of the army be more affordable and easier to build or convert has been huge. FW hasn't really had an exact purpose for a while now. I can see where the Imperial Armor books/campaigns of old would have been a fun time in the hobby offering more niche units, models, etc but since they've moved away from that kind of thing for quite some time it doesn't make sense to keep the two separate anymore. Incorporating it into the same ecosystem and slapping the "expert resin kit" label on it was the most logical move. I dont think everything "needs" to be moved to plastic...the HH faction characters, units and upgrades in resin are fine, same goes for the super heavies, etc. Now if we can get breachers, recons, destroyers, etc in plastic to round out the infantry that'd be great...

  • @iannordin5250
    @iannordin52503 ай бұрын

    It's such a shame because IMO forgeworld had the best aesthetic interpretations for each faction, even if their quality was never great.

  • @slackeratlarge575
    @slackeratlarge5753 ай бұрын

    Forge world is on life support.slowly being removed from games. Just waiting on GW to inform next of kin and pull the plug.

  • @91Caesar
    @91Caesar3 ай бұрын

    There is a distinction to be made between former FW kits that were produced with use in 40k/WFB/AOS in mind and the FW kits that are used in the more specialist games. GW has basically split into two distinct studios, a 'Main' studio handling 40k and AOS, and a 'Specialist' studio handling everything else. Forge World basically became the specialist studio, and they don't want the content from either studios cross-contaminating for accounting reasons. GW wants to know that when you buy a Contemptor Dreadnought you're using it for HH and not 40k, so they can assign the sale to the Specialist studio and more accurately gauge how well HH is going. This is why Beastmen are leaving AOS. They don't want to have a range that straddles both the Main studio and the Specialist studio. So the games like MESBG, The Old World, Necromunda etc etc are safe (provided they continue to sell enough to justify their existence), where as the old FW models that existed as supplementary models for 40k are on the chopping block, unless they are relevant to the HH (which most aren't).

  • @onlyMetalisMusic

    @onlyMetalisMusic

    3 ай бұрын

    Sad but probably true...

  • @Cruxxy21
    @Cruxxy213 ай бұрын

    I love the imperial fliers, maybe they can get a redeployment into imperial agents…

  • @metasuperfamily
    @metasuperfamily3 ай бұрын

    Moving many of the cool and good Tau models to legacy is not cool.

  • @The_Blackshield
    @The_Blackshield3 ай бұрын

    Custodes are crapping themselves right now.

  • @mogwaiman6048
    @mogwaiman60483 ай бұрын

    Forge World isn't dead. They make all of the resin miniatures for the specilaist design studio games.

  • @jamesbrunton9507
    @jamesbrunton95073 ай бұрын

    Pretty sure the description used to say "Forge-World Resin" which I presumed was to differentiate from "Citadel Finecast Resin". Checked a few products and that wording is gone now.

  • @WardenOfTerra
    @WardenOfTerra3 ай бұрын

    I just hope that GW creates them in plastic. I don't want Titan's or flyers to disappear. The sense of awe that the FW models brought in the old campaign books is timeless. 'The Taros Campaign' book is amazing. Far too much emphasis is being put on competitive play nowadays, so it's sapped the love out of the hobby for a lot of people. GW needs to get Tony Cottrell back.

  • @TrilainaBloodwind
    @TrilainaBloodwind3 ай бұрын

    The vulture was truly one of the vehicles that not just got me into the Guard. But into 40k as a whole. Im glad I got mine, but I also want a Stormblade, regardless of its future in full 40k :(

  • @Rottenflieger.

    @Rottenflieger.

    3 ай бұрын

    I figure worst case scenario fir the stormblade is it can be proxied as another variant. Lorewise it often gets used interchangeably with shadowswords as a titan hunter.

  • @SvenTheSveed
    @SvenTheSveed3 ай бұрын

    I heard is FW to come back as a 3d printer file store

  • @GrimrDirge
    @GrimrDirge3 ай бұрын

    I know a lot of long-time hobbyists love Forgeworld, but I am glad to see it go. So many great sculpts that could have and should have been done in plastic have languished under FW's insane price scheme. There is no need for FW. Everything they do can be done better in plastic.

  • @N0isy665

    @N0isy665

    3 ай бұрын

    Evidently not the Death korps infantry, tanks sure.

  • @CMTechnica

    @CMTechnica

    3 ай бұрын

    @@N0isy665fuck the Death Corps

  • @Mr_Waffle.

    @Mr_Waffle.

    3 ай бұрын

    If GW wanted you to have those kits in plastic, you’d be able to buy them in plastic. If FW didn’t exist the models wouldn’t exist full stop

  • @Wodferd
    @Wodferd3 ай бұрын

    It is sad to see the decline of the place that a lot of really cool models came from, but the only interaction i'd ever had with them was ordering a model, getting it horribly warped with bubbles and having to contact customer support, repeat 3 times in a row til i got a kit that wasn't totally bricked in some fashion. Couldn't even use parts from the other kits, because they were all the same parts that were screwed up.

  • @keggotht9323
    @keggotht93233 ай бұрын

    Just wanted to say I love your outro music, I often wind the video back a bit for a second listen

  • @timmcgrath8742
    @timmcgrath87423 ай бұрын

    For those wanting to transport large figures in large plastic boxes, go to your nearest supermarket and buy Velcro strips for next to nothing (They can normally be found with the needles/thread and other dressmaking supplies.) Superglue the hook side to the bottom of your box and the opposing loop side to the bottom of your models. The loop strip cut into short lengths also doubles as cushioning to the base of your models, so they don't clatter as much against table tops.

  • @lMrJackl
    @lMrJackl2 ай бұрын

    I'm glad fw is being merged back in. I think the reason fw products aren't popular is the cost and difficulty of assembly. Gw seem to be gradually redoing fw stuff into plastic, and if they start updating the rules to those models and including them in codexs, then maybe people will start buying and playing with them more.

  • @Orannis01
    @Orannis013 ай бұрын

    I think the legacy of FW was that the resin was expensive compared to GW plastic 20 years ago, and the rules for the models were often unbalanced. The newer FW stuff ended up being cheaper than GW plastic kits and the rules were always overpointed for what you got on tabletop, like GW didn't want to support them.

  • @TheMinidow
    @TheMinidow3 ай бұрын

    The solar auxiliary big box had a "not quite" macharius in it, most of the plastic kit is done, they just need a turret sprue.

  • @anthonywaggett9317
    @anthonywaggett93173 ай бұрын

    Forge World legacy will always exist for one reason - Titans. But I see your point, it does make sense that the more niche products are produced in resin, they can basically be made to order, or in this day and age they replace what Forge World produced with STL's (although Titans will always be resin kits). This makes commercial sense as basically GW would be getting money for nothing (I want my MTV), no production cost, no warehousing cost and no shipping cost but they still sell the basic plastic kit and you print the extras.

  • @jeffreysort7219
    @jeffreysort72193 ай бұрын

    Don’t worry, they’re still jacking up FW prices though.

  • @captainparty
    @captainparty3 ай бұрын

    Specialist Games is Forge World. It’s a huge part of the company.

  • @johncolvin2754
    @johncolvin27543 ай бұрын

    For years I thought forge world was completely separate fan run company, like 15 or twenty years since rouge trader , it added so much intrigue and depth whichnus life for ganers

  • @vortex594
    @vortex5943 ай бұрын

    It's sad. My Tau stuff managed to dodge Legends this edition, but this might be the last edition it survives. But because this edition is so damn bad, I'm skipping it, which means I'm not even getting this likely last chance to actually play with half of my army...

  • @freakazoid8426
    @freakazoid84263 ай бұрын

    Reporter: "What had you decided to make more and more decisions, to become a greedy company who doesn't care enough for the fans anymore. GW: "Money, Fred, lot of money for me and the shareholders."

  • @jayko-mayko2285
    @jayko-mayko22852 ай бұрын

    I got into Warhammer around 2022 and was a little confused by what Forge World was but it didn't take much to figure it out as high-end luxury version of Warhammer. Shortly after, I couldn't find the website anymore and was even more confused. I think there should be a luxury version for those who are really into a specific faction or limited edition versions that make it a little more special. *shrugs*

  • @user-qi1jc1yn3o
    @user-qi1jc1yn3o3 ай бұрын

    I liked the resin miniatures more than the plastic ones that GW now expect the same price for the resin ones were. They were the best Blood Bowl miniatures and I was hoping to get myself the Troll Hag in resin as well…. How I love it when GW makes my decisions for me 😟

  • @lachief237
    @lachief2373 ай бұрын

    FW was weirdly ‘mainstream’ in Warhammer over recent years. Back in the day it was all esoteric weird bits intended for narrative games and not receiving balance support. It was actively hard to get hold of outside the UK. With the internet it became widely available and a lot of enthusiasts seemed to hold it to the same standards as the core ranges (which isn’t something the sales could justify in an already bloated roster). I’m not convinced it should ever have been part of the ‘tournament legal’ scene. Short-run specialist games or narrative special items was a niche that made some sense.

  • @noprobllama9747
    @noprobllama97473 ай бұрын

    I feel bad for Tony Cottrell. He built up forgeworld I believe, to be cancelled or pushed aside is disrespectful.

  • @crisismethodactor

    @crisismethodactor

    3 ай бұрын

    He’s in charge of Specialist Design Studio, he’ll be fine.

  • @killerkriegsman85
    @killerkriegsman853 ай бұрын

    This worries me Krieg/ Titans/ imperial armour feel under threat from disappearing from resin glad I got mine while it was still forgeworld

  • @beanman853

    @beanman853

    3 ай бұрын

    it feels like titans aren't getting removed but the stuff which you could use in 2k 40k are

  • @MalfunctioningAndroid

    @MalfunctioningAndroid

    3 ай бұрын

    Thankfully they all survive as recasts with infinitely better quality and lower price. :)

  • @jeffers1985

    @jeffers1985

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@MalfunctioningAndroidtotally agree, 3 years of mad price increase on resin killed FW, think one year was 20% uplift. Killed my hope on a falchion

  • @evo5055
    @evo50553 ай бұрын

    I'm still fielding and building red scorpions and minotaurs legions. I've had to source puldron chapter icons from 3rd party sources though since FW dropped the two chapters.

  • @VIPOdyssey176
    @VIPOdyssey1763 ай бұрын

    I remember going in to forge world (living in Nottingham means dropping in was easy as WW is my LGS) as an 11 year old and the pewter eldar harlequins weren’t on the shelf and the geezer behind the counter was like “oh give us an hour we’ll whip up a batch for you” and gave me a free ticket to the museum whilst I waited. 45 mins later I had literally brand new made for me 16 harlequins and I was chuffed. That’s how I’ll always remember forge world, the people who were the ones you’d go to for specialist and if it wasn’t there they’d make it

  • @hannahleith52
    @hannahleith523 ай бұрын

    The closure of Forge World was inevitable once they started releasing the base game of Horus Heresy in plastic. No matter how much better resin is than plastic in general the main problem Forge World has had since day dot is the QC issues that they still can't fix. And think about it if the ones they sell as bad as they might be are still the 'acceptable' ones how many in each run of a mould are so irreparably bad to be completely useless, better to change to plastic yeah it might cost them a few hundred thousand quid in tooling per mould but it will have a much lower wastage rate and better profit margins as time goes on.

  • @calebbarnhouse496

    @calebbarnhouse496

    3 ай бұрын

    It was inevitable long ago, you can bet your ass the reason forgeworld sucks so much now is GW wanted to milk them for every penny before they killed them, plastic is just a better material for everything except ultra low production runs, which basically means production runs that make then lowest returns because of the higher cost to produce, and the cost to pay the sculpture are spread out onto much fewer scales, so then the company ads and additional tax to customers to pay for the luxury of buying there cooler products available, (if they actually worked ad advertised)

  • @eriadorranger2196
    @eriadorranger21963 ай бұрын

    If they decide to repackage all the excess ForgeWorld models and stock them alongside the normal plastic plastic ones with nothing denoting resin vs plastic, I’m gonna be real upset when I accidentally get a bad resin model

  • @akumaking1
    @akumaking13 ай бұрын

    It’s simple. Embrace 3D printing. By this point 3D prints can rival the “quality” of GW products.

  • @Bobamelius

    @Bobamelius

    2 ай бұрын

    Far exceed, in many cases.

  • @guleri
    @guleri3 ай бұрын

    I think that Forgeworld as a unique thing went away when the website was integrated into the regular Warhammer range. And as more and more of the former resin kits gets made into plastic, Forgeworld will keep going into the background until GW finally decides to remove it ompletely. However, I do think that there is still a market for some of the resin miniaures, so hopefully whey will not stop making them as there aree some big models that I don't think ever will come in plastic.

  • @karlff7
    @karlff73 ай бұрын

    I'm now genuinely concerned for rules support being dropped for FW resin Necromunda characters and Blood Bowl star players 😥

  • @timmcgrath8742
    @timmcgrath87423 ай бұрын

    I see a Birthday Massacre poster! I saw them live a few years ago in Scotland. Brilliant band. Absolutely love the song 'Red stars'.

  • @voidimperatrix406
    @voidimperatrix4063 ай бұрын

    Guess I gotta get myself that macharius Vulcan I’ve always wanted

  • @kylethomas7473
    @kylethomas74733 ай бұрын

    I have noticed a lot of the Forge World models go out of stock really quickly

  • @christopherplummer1299
    @christopherplummer12993 ай бұрын

    FW offered some unique units and subgroups for use in 40k. It is sad my krieg have been changed so much from their imperial armour days. And my Red Scorpions have lost any uniqueness they had from the other space marine chapters.

  • @darrenbarlow1826
    @darrenbarlow18263 ай бұрын

    Durkhari Tantalus in plastic pls, I don't fancy trying to put that together in forgeworld resin

  • @pads-zr9ln
    @pads-zr9ln3 ай бұрын

    The mecharius is now a plastic kit so it's safe ISH for now, they need to keep on tip of the rules though, legends is over coated

  • @azamonra
    @azamonra3 ай бұрын

    I think this was inevitable since FW always sat in a nebulous place in the game to the point that some GW stores didn't allow their use in game. I didn't even know FW was an official GW thing till a couple of years ago. It was to specialist, to disconnected from the game and resin as a material is just a pain in the arse to work with.

  • @seanuh60
    @seanuh603 ай бұрын

    Calm down. They are clearly making nearly everything from forge world in plastic. If something is obscure enough it will probably leave. But a macharius is probably coming. Who would have predicted the solar tanks. Most are redundant kits the others were low sellers I believe. In time they will make everything.

  • @MichealIkruhara
    @MichealIkruhara3 ай бұрын

    I think you have the causality backwards; they're not discontinuing kits because they're not interested in supporting the rules, they're dropping rules for models they're not interested in producing. The ROI for resin is always lower than plastic, and the large resin models like tanks and titans don't sell well so their ROI is worse. It doesnt make business sense to produce them. I feel that Forgeworld was always a labor of love for the staff that ran it, like the old metal guard regiment minis, but they're pivoting away from that as a company. I wish more of those kits would be remade in Plastic but logistically theres too many to remake them all, and some of them are simply too niche to be worth the investment of remaking and stocking them. I just hope GW keeps doing MTO for old forgeworld kits like they did earlier this year.

  • @s0renK
    @s0renK3 ай бұрын

    GW lost it when they discontinued the battery powered styrofoam cutter.

  • @matthewbroad2900
    @matthewbroad29003 ай бұрын

    it might not be all doom and gloom. The best stuff might make it to plastic. The Malcador has just come out in plastic for example.

  • @nameisbad
    @nameisbad3 ай бұрын

    I'm happy we are getting away from resin, there's so much problematic stuff to consider with it, from those who ignore the safety requirements to the fact it's expensive, sometimes got bubbles or warped. When you see a youtuber get a manta, a 1000+ £ model and it's warped, if they'd do that to a big KZreadR, how much less do they care about you. screw forgeworld.

  • @40KWill
    @40KWill3 ай бұрын

    A soon as you see limited orders on your model, sell it unless it's just a hobby project

  • @kitwood4610
    @kitwood46102 ай бұрын

    Cries in Chaos after over £1000 of my resin tanks went to legends at the start of 10th edition. Gone are the interesting tanks, forced onto boring predators.

  • @foreverfornever1124
    @foreverfornever11243 ай бұрын

    From what Im seeing, especially with the OW releases, GW restructured FW as the hub for kits for majority classic games(HH and Old World) and their more niche games like Middle Earth and Necromunda. And of course the colossal kits that continously sell like Titans. When the Necron range had some of its units removed I knew they were only going to be removng less popular selling kits and the remaining were the ones folks still buy. This has and will continue with all of the 40k factions until the end of 10th ed. The Guard alone is a good chunk of the range with mostly Krieg kits who are still looking to be plastic for the rumored Guard codex release. Iv always seen Legends almost like a queue system for GW. They either retire a unit or keep them for a later time until it can be reintergrated back into a game with a refresh. Pretty much how the Ork warboss in mega armor and the atillian rough riders got refreshes and returned. Once 10th ed has finished its slimming down of the 40k model range i think 11th ed will see the transition of the remaining non-colossal FW 40k models into plastics which will be awesome for some factions like Custodes and chaos

  • @bohort
    @bohort3 ай бұрын

    I remember forge world being 90% scenery, then all that went and it was 90% tanks, then a bunch weird shmit, now it's R rated minis? forge world never really had a solid identity not too shocking if it is just phased out

  • @johncolvin2754
    @johncolvin27543 ай бұрын

    For years I thought forge world was completely separate fan run company, like 15 or twenty years since rouge trader

  • @soupordave
    @soupordave3 ай бұрын

    I'm new to the hobby and already hate resin minis. I hate that some of the best looking Heresy stuff is in resin. If Forgeworld has to die so that we get more of these kits in plastic I'm all for it. I'm just afraid a lot of the old resin kits will just be dropped and never converted over.

  • @CaptainChazz
    @CaptainChazz3 ай бұрын

    As a Custodes player I am hoping we get a big plastic refresh soon probably as part of the HH range

  • @grampawerewolf9832
    @grampawerewolf98323 ай бұрын

    Forge World - dead to me when they nerfed Knarlocs - Manta no.134, T'au N'dras sept, hunter cadre 'Ard Impact. Buy your resin whilst ye may...

  • @meeszijlstra5426
    @meeszijlstra54263 ай бұрын

    Damn, Warmag doesn't seem to ship outside the UK. Or at least not to the Netherlands where I live. I've had the magnetic sheets transport solution in mind for a while now, just never found a place that sells them for a good price. I'll have to hope the product takes off and can be sold internationally in the future too.

  • @games-wz7sz
    @games-wz7sz3 ай бұрын

    FINALLY Seriously its been failworld for a while now. And because it's not as good as plastic anymore so they are switching to plastic. Good riddance

  • @LcUlric
    @LcUlric3 ай бұрын

    I think you're right. GW struggles to keep there mainline stuff in stock FW is easily on the chopping block because they don't sell. But part of the reason they don't sell is because GW doesn't put the rules where people can find them and feel inspired to try them out. Quality and price are also a factor, but it all comes back around to GW not supporting something and wondering why no one plays it.

  • @voultronix761
    @voultronix7613 ай бұрын

    I just want the heresy special troop models to come in plastic. I dont want to buy $300 40k vehicles that should be cheaper cause theyre plastic now.

  • @simonmiller5351
    @simonmiller53513 ай бұрын

    i am in the process looking at my FW ork kits and looking at ways to kitbash them into codex units, eg grot tanks into killerkans, big trakks into trukks.

  • @amaagumo1036
    @amaagumo10363 ай бұрын

    Warhammer has evolved into an analog video game rather than a table top Wargame. Fw was cool since it gave the hobby a bit more ‘historical’ scale modeling feel especially with all the bonus things like generator tractors and terrain etc. The hobby has accelerated so they don’t want to sell to slow burn modelers anymore.

  • @Bobamelius

    @Bobamelius

    2 ай бұрын

    Better days.

  • @RequiemWraith
    @RequiemWraith3 ай бұрын

    Already missed out on getting a Dimachaeron and a Malenthrope, guess I need to pull my finger out and get the Tyranid ones I want!

  • @cirno9349
    @cirno93493 ай бұрын

    The resin is dead! Long live the resin

  • @Belly6815
    @Belly68153 ай бұрын

    Its been quiet for a while, the way GW is hacking back major ranges i can't see how they won't gut it. They need to adapt to the 3d printer revolution that is going to overwhelm them if they don't adapt.

  • @Zabzim
    @Zabzim3 ай бұрын

    Forge World has been rebranded as specialist games Kirioth. e.g. the makers of the Horus Heresy and The Old World. Meanwhile retail which make 40K/AoS has decided that specialist games is getting too popular so they are building a fire brake between them and specialist games so that no one can misunderstand that the horus heresy is 40k and the old world is AoS. So 40k/AoS forge world stuff is going to go but stuff for specialist games won’t

  • @ruslanhoncharenko2179
    @ruslanhoncharenko21793 ай бұрын

    I think FW will continue to exist by making those big characters/monsters/vehicles. Anything else gonna be relegated to plastic, I hope some removed stuff would eventually make a comeback.

  • @waynegoddard4065
    @waynegoddard40652 ай бұрын

    I main grippe is when I bought Curze he didn't come with helmet option. Gutted.

  • @killroy1117
    @killroy11173 ай бұрын

    British people saying “beta” sounds like Lois Griffin saying “Peta”

  • @NathanielGarro-ru7du
    @NathanielGarro-ru7du3 ай бұрын

    It was done for tax reasons. Forge World, Games Workshop/Warhammer, Black Library are part of the same company but separate so that if one part folded it wouldn't bring them all down and it kept business tax separate.