Forge welded basket twist - basic blacksmithing welded twists part 1

Combining forge welding with twisting can result in a wide variety of decorative forged twists. The basket twist is a classic example of a forge welded twist. forge welded twists part one
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  • @SimoncitoReinhardt
    @SimoncitoReinhardt6 ай бұрын

    Great video (not a surprise), great outcome (also, not a surprise) and great shirt (this sure is one!). Anyway, keep up with the posting, very well explained!

  • @huntintrailmetals9343
    @huntintrailmetals93432 жыл бұрын

    Nice shirt John!

  • @bigmacca99
    @bigmacca996 жыл бұрын

    The was the best. “Wanna clean up those lines and break it off”. John you need to put that on a shirt I WILL buy it if you do.

  • @jaccobpeterson9735
    @jaccobpeterson97353 жыл бұрын

    hello john! i just wanted to say you are an amazing black smith and I've seen almost all of your videos! for the past couple weeks I've watched you to learn the ways of the black smith! I'm buying a forge during tax season and plan to keep watching your videos to hone and help educate myself on the craft. You are my inspiration to start working it! It'll be a hobby at first but once time and skill progress i hope to make it a full time gig so thank you for all your hard work and your educational videos. They have helped me learn so much

  • @1scottws
    @1scottws6 жыл бұрын

    "...and break it off." I lol'd for real. Thanks for your videos. Wish I was your neighbor.

  • @robphone4895
    @robphone48956 жыл бұрын

    I love twists, thanks. I like the end, it's good to realise setbacks/problems are part of the game. It's something we all share😉. Thanks for sharing that too!

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    6 жыл бұрын

    I need to save a file of just those bits to do full videos of the outtakes.

  • @robphone4895

    @robphone4895

    6 жыл бұрын

    That would be great.

  • @loul7239
    @loul72396 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the bloopers at the end. I got one of those laughs out of it that can only come from someone who has had the exact same experience.

  • @benwarren2559
    @benwarren25594 жыл бұрын

    I love how much time you take to explain all the details.I have never forged other than coat hangers in the fire with my dad. I guess my dad inspired me first. Years and years and years and years ago. Now he is not with me thank you very much for the inspiration I really want to get into blacksmithing I have to build my forge soon.

  • @gateway8833
    @gateway88336 жыл бұрын

    Love the shirt man.

  • @squattingturtle7976

    @squattingturtle7976

    6 жыл бұрын

    Abby Babby absolutely killer...loving it too

  • @sanpogiri
    @sanpogiri6 жыл бұрын

    Just did my first forge welding last weekend at a blacksmithing class I took in Laconia, NH. We did exactly what you did in this video. Forge welded four round bars together, then scarf welded that to a square bar, then did the twist. The class was very well taught and was well worth it.

  • @charlessageii2220
    @charlessageii22204 жыл бұрын

    John , you are awesome man. You have singlemotivated motivated me to take an my interest and love of working metal to whole different level and I love it. Thank you.

  • @billy19461
    @billy194615 жыл бұрын

    I always wondered how the basket twist was made. Thanks for sharing!

  • @lestermcconnell5502
    @lestermcconnell55025 жыл бұрын

    Attempted my first Basket twist on a fire poker handle after watching your video. Had great success. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge. Les

  • @lenblacksmith8559
    @lenblacksmith85596 жыл бұрын

    Always love seeing welding, it's just wonderful.

  • @beni2094
    @beni20946 жыл бұрын

    You are a true pleasure to watch. Love the channel

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @billwoehl3051
    @billwoehl30513 жыл бұрын

    Ha! Just watched Marks video you mentioned just a few hours ago 🤪

  • @dadegroot
    @dadegroot6 жыл бұрын

    I was just wondering the other day how basket twists worked, and then like magic, you post this video!

  • @GWIRailroad
    @GWIRailroad6 жыл бұрын

    Very nice, almost done with the Blacksmith Shop, can not wait to try these twists .

  • @lo5042mh
    @lo5042mh6 жыл бұрын

    I'am curious about the twist inside a twist, never heard about that. I can give only óne thumbs up, but you deserve more! 👍👍👍 Loved the bloopers on the end. 😄

  • @andrewpedersen9502
    @andrewpedersen95026 жыл бұрын

    my wife and I decided that you are so calming to listen to, and we think you would be a great hostage negotiator. haha Thanks for the great videos! we enjoy watching them.

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    6 жыл бұрын

    That is a carrier path I never considered. Glad you're enjoying the videos

  • @bentoombs
    @bentoombs6 жыл бұрын

    My two Favorite Things twists, Forge welding and anything blacksmithing and John wait that's more than two.👍👍🔨0n!!!

  • @danielbutler6823
    @danielbutler68233 жыл бұрын

    Black bear hippy forge!

  • @jackdawg4579
    @jackdawg45796 жыл бұрын

    love the hint on using the swage block, I have tried to weld rounds of that size together before and found it like herding cats! I'll be out at the forge trying the swage later today!

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    6 жыл бұрын

    I hope it helps

  • @stanervin7581
    @stanervin75816 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Gotta see that "basket in basket" technique! Opposite twist directions too!? Sounds like a good challenge! 💈🌀

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hopefully I will get around to trying the double basket.

  • @rayflowers9097
    @rayflowers90976 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful. Love it! Thanks bearman!

  • @StarLight-yk6es
    @StarLight-yk6es5 жыл бұрын

    Yea that shirt rocks ! Like , the twist handle lesson too:) !!!! Thanks John !

  • @92MtB
    @92MtB3 жыл бұрын

    At least my left ear enjoyed marks video :)

  • @leperejoe1536
    @leperejoe15366 жыл бұрын

    This was very educational; thanks.

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    6 жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it

  • @rmcmunoz2
    @rmcmunoz25 жыл бұрын

    Very cool! Good video ! im trying this today!

  • @grandadz_forge
    @grandadz_forge6 жыл бұрын

    Groovy! On many levels... And twists

  • @mikejeffers6371
    @mikejeffers63715 жыл бұрын

    Great twist. Great idea to projects for future ideas

  • @workwithnature
    @workwithnature6 жыл бұрын

    Another really great demonstration, you make it look easy. Just something I have noticed on charcoal, it has only one problem for forge welding if to much ash has build up below after several hours of forging. That wrought iron is much harder to get up to forge welding heat than mild steel.

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    6 жыл бұрын

    Frequently cleaning the fire is a reality for most fuels. I wonder if a side blast forge has fewer issues.

  • @workwithnature

    @workwithnature

    6 жыл бұрын

    Actually yes that is the main issue with my forge. It has no hole at the bottom to clean out the ash so I end up getting a lot of ash after some time. Something to consider when I need to make a new one thanks. The side blast could work to push the ash to the back or side.

  • @tropifiori
    @tropifiori6 жыл бұрын

    Great ideas for a gate I want to attempt

  • @bryanthoblit2248
    @bryanthoblit22486 жыл бұрын

    Made that look so easy

  • @TomokosEnterprize
    @TomokosEnterprize6 жыл бұрын

    That was great fun. Thanks a bunch. I may be making a set of these. See ya soon my friend.That is right, the only holdbacks are imagination (and money, LOL)

  • @woutervlok3803
    @woutervlok38036 жыл бұрын

    Jooohn, the black nose blacksmith . . on Rudolph the rednose's tune LOL, sorry, could not resist :)

  • @svernwarunos546
    @svernwarunos5466 жыл бұрын

    You're too cool man.

  • @Willisordie
    @Willisordie3 жыл бұрын

    He sounds just like Dave baker from forged in fire

  • @xxxclampgodxxx5511
    @xxxclampgodxxx55116 жыл бұрын

    Nice work. Good thing to add to a protect. I think it’s time for me to try and forge weld something. I never tried yet but I think I’m up for the challenge... another good one John .... thx ....Paul

  • @xxxclampgodxxx5511

    @xxxclampgodxxx5511

    6 жыл бұрын

    Oh yea. NICE SHIRT!!!

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @DavoShed
    @DavoShed6 жыл бұрын

    Great video, Good to see the out takes. Now I know I’m not a failure if it doesn’t always work first go 😎 (

  • @MauledByBears
    @MauledByBears6 жыл бұрын

    I like a little 1lb or less hammer for that first tack. That and welding without flux help keep the scarfs from slipping, but welding without flux means you have less time before the scale solidifies. I can't find the MSDS for Iron Mountain Flux, but I think it's just anhydrous borax and iron filings. I might make my own and see how grippy I can make it.

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    6 жыл бұрын

    It doesn't behave like borax does, so I doubt that's what it is. It seems more like easy weld in use.

  • @MauledByBears

    @MauledByBears

    6 жыл бұрын

    I've heard "Sal Ammoniac" or ammonium chloride was commonly mixed with borax and iron filings or used alone as a flux for iron. It was also used extensively for soldering by redsmiths since it cleans copper oxides well. You can still get it in blocks for cleaning soldering irons. I've never tried it or any silica-based flux (like clean sand) because they're both supposedly more noxious at high temperature. Potassium ferrocyanide was also used, but I'm guessing that's probably poisonous too. (EDIT: I just checked, it seems that the ferrocyanide decomposes into KCN with heat. At temperature, the KCN would be in liquid form and possibly fuming. KCN is the "cyanide" you read about smelling like almonds and being super poisonous.) As far as I know, all iron fluxes do one or both of two things: First, lower the melting point of magnetite so that the scale is fluid and can be squirted out of the weld. Second, introduce sacrificial material that's preferentially oxidized like iron filings (and maybe ferrocyanides) so that scale doesn't form as quickly on the work. As to what makes a flux sticky or slippery in use, I have no idea. You almost certainly know all this, I figured I'd share in case anyone else was curious.

  • @user-fi9we5qp8l
    @user-fi9we5qp8l Жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @Camowolf-bx5xr
    @Camowolf-bx5xr6 жыл бұрын

    Yes, enter me.

  • @hosiercraft9675
    @hosiercraft96756 жыл бұрын

    2 things. 1. I learned that not all acids make good flux. I tried to use pure citric acid once because I can get it free, it burns, makes instant scale, and smells like burning hair. So don't do that. 2. Have you ever done a twist and had it weld together? I've actually done that intentionally for a blade pattern. Great video John. Thanks.

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    6 жыл бұрын

    Welding the whole twist is common for Damascus work, but would really mess up these ornamental twists. Fluxes for forge welding don't need to be acidic. Historically clean sand was often used.

  • @webneko9842
    @webneko98422 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the great video! I have a question. You often say you can "burn up" your work. Can you get steel too hot? What are you meaning when you say this? Wanted to ask before I try this myself.

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    2 жыл бұрын

    Too high of a heat with too much oxygen can actually cause iron and steel to burn. Looks like a 4th of July sparkler.

  • @christianandresloboSinPerj-TDR
    @christianandresloboSinPerj-TDR6 жыл бұрын

    "...and break it off..." LOL

  • @1pokras
    @1pokras6 жыл бұрын

    Have you ever done a basket within a basket, the inside basket is twisted opposite from the outside one, I've seen them, but for the life of me cannot figure out how it's done! Thanks for great vids!!!

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    6 жыл бұрын

    As I said in the video, yes I have and will see if we can manage to do one.

  • @1pokras

    @1pokras

    6 жыл бұрын

    Good lesson for me to complete watching your videos before I comment, thank you again for your wonderful work!

  • @fixerfabricating4707
    @fixerfabricating47076 жыл бұрын

    be very interested in seeing a multi twist with more than 4 sections

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    6 жыл бұрын

    I have one in mind. But in most cases when you see numerous bars the bundle becomes too large to twist manually and I don't have a twisting machine. The ones I have seen use old truck or jeep transmissions to get some incredibly high torque capable of twisting large bundles cold.

  • @fixerfabricating4707

    @fixerfabricating4707

    6 жыл бұрын

    good to know, thanks for the info

  • @markgoggin2014
    @markgoggin20143 жыл бұрын

    How would you scarf it if you wanted to attach it to something larger like a 1/2 inch round bar?

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    3 жыл бұрын

    Upset the end first

  • @benlear7419
    @benlear74195 жыл бұрын

    Some people burn there steel on purpose to forge weld and it seems to work pretty well. I've seen Joey van der Steeg do this, what are the reasons why you shouldn't?

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    5 жыл бұрын

    Burnt steel is steel lost as well as being permanently damaged. The higher heat and generally high oxygen levels also contribute to more scale which makes a successful weld less likely.

  • @neilyeag
    @neilyeag6 жыл бұрын

    John did you chase down Peter Follansbee and steel his Tee shirt Ha? Good video BTW.

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    6 жыл бұрын

    I would never steal Peter's shirt, I like the man to much.

  • @michaelhodges6452
    @michaelhodges64526 жыл бұрын

    Is it preferable to open up the basket before you finish the end? I would think that you would want to finish the end before untwisting so you wouldn't mess the basket up.

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    6 жыл бұрын

    Often times once the end is finished it doesn't provide a good grip for the twisting, but if it does it would probably better to twist and open last.

  • @sammanno3303
    @sammanno33036 жыл бұрын

    John have you ever put a Marble inside the Basket Twist or a Ballbearing?

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    6 жыл бұрын

    No, but I have seen it done

  • @tdemario3753
    @tdemario37536 жыл бұрын

    I know you didn’t do this In this video, but what oil/waxes do you, use to shine and protect your tools and such after you get done making them?

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    6 жыл бұрын

    Depending on the tool I generally use Johnsons paste wax or just bees wax.

  • @stevenjohnson2273
    @stevenjohnson22736 жыл бұрын

    The tie dyed blacksmith?

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    6 жыл бұрын

    That hippie smithy

  • @austinsaunders370
    @austinsaunders3706 жыл бұрын

    What are the pliers you used for the hook called?

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    6 жыл бұрын

    They are called electricians pliers, but I buy them from blacksmithing suppliers. I think that pair came from Blacksmiths Depot

  • @rayward9265
    @rayward92656 жыл бұрын

    Hate the shirt.