428s are very light, thin wall castings. The longer 3.98" stroke vs. the 427's 3.78" gives it great low end and middle range torque. With Edelbrock aluminum heads and intake, my 428 is actually lighter than an iron 302/351 small block. I have a '69 Mach 1 with 428-SCJ - lost the headers (& at least 40 HP), but now it sits as low as a racing Boss 302 and still makes 100 ft-lbs. more torque. 12:1 custom 4.135" pistons, solid roller Comp Cam, 750 cfm 4150-HP carb, it dyno'd 455HP and 488ft-lbs from 4,400-5,900 thru iron CJ exhaust manifolds! ...gotta run a little racing gas mix, but it works....runs like a pick-up truck below 3...never have to buzz it to 6.

What the...? Who's grandmother was shifting the Chevelle?! That was horrible!

@deansapp4635

4 жыл бұрын

I see you saw that too, That dude needs a Automatic

@badgerbait8351

4 жыл бұрын

@Moon Pie Fricking hilarious!

@howabouthetruth2157

4 жыл бұрын

I could shift a 3 speed on the column from 1st to 2nd gear faster than he shifted from 1st to 2nd, LOL.

@robertrobinson1111

3 жыл бұрын

@Moon Pie Great fucking comment

@Joesmusclecargarage

3 жыл бұрын

@@howabouthetruth2157 I love powershifting column shift stick cars.

Dang that Mustang took off like it was 500 pounds lighter than the Shevelle..

@royalway12

3 жыл бұрын

It probably was. A Camaro would be a more even match, as far as weight.

@milojanis4901

3 жыл бұрын

Because it was

@jamessharp9790

Жыл бұрын

L78 Nova would be an even match

@ztwntyn8

Жыл бұрын

At least

@magicrattvideo5582

11 ай бұрын

I wish my car tipped the scales at 3200. That weight difference is huge at the track.

The 428cobra jet is a fast mover

@BobbyOfEarth

4 ай бұрын

There were two 428 Cobra Jet cars in final round during the 1968 Winternationals, making it an easy win for Ford.

I’m a Chevy guy, and I used to have a 69 Chevelle, one of my favorite cars, but think while all engines were underrated back then, the Cobra Jet 429 has to be one of the most underrated from the factory.

Fear the FE... doesn't that Chevelle guy know that FE stands for Freakin' Evil!

@matthewgraham2129

Жыл бұрын

no it means F'n expensive.

@save16thave

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewgraham2129 Well, I can't argue with that. FE parts are priced really high.

@randycoursey7230

Жыл бұрын

@@save16thave Yeah that's because Ford don't build junk.

Those mustangs had a cool shape

I always liked my Chevys ( didn't hate Fords ), but I've seen it go either way many times -

The guy in the Chevelle kinda slow shifted from 1st to 2nd. Also of note. 428s were mild compared to the L78 396. 428, cast iron everything and hydraulic cam, L78 had aluminum intake and solid cam and canted valve more modern heads. More cubes for Ford and less weight. It was a close race.

@randycoursey7230

Жыл бұрын

Well it's pretty safe to say the 428 CJ is not Fords FE-427. But in 1968 the 428 CJ Mustang was rated the fastest production car by Hot Rod magazine. They were obviously bigger in cubic inches than the 396, but they were actually rated with less horsepower 335, compared to the 396 @ 375. It's just a figure though because Ford advertised less horsepower because they believed insurance companies would give the buyer a break with less horsepower. When it comes to insurance companies the name Mustang sent shivers up their spine, many insurance companies wouldn't even insure a Mustang.

@jdrok5026

6 ай бұрын

​@randycoursey7230 all of them underrated in some form but in reality they over rated (they just ran up to a x rpm.

OK If Nothing Else I Hope This Makes Interesting Reading Back In The Early 70s I Had A Stock Equipped 1966 Ford 7 Litter (428 ci) C6 Trans. Posi At The Same Time My Brother Had A 1966 Galaxie 500 6cyl 3 On The Tree Open Rear End Both Were 2dr Ht My Brother Swapped Out The 6cyl With A 428 SCJ 4spd Top Loader With A Set Of Long Headers He Keept His 6cyl Rear-end WE Would Take Them To The Local Drag Strip And Run Them Side By Side He Could Take Advantage Of The SCJ Low End Torque And Didn't Need The Posi Can't Remember The ETs But They Were Probably In The Mid To Lower 14s (Those ETs Keep Going Down With Age LOL) I Would Have Him For Maybe The First 100' Then He Would Blow Me Away My HP With The 7 Litter I Think Were a True 335 His Had To Be 425+ At The Strip The Hemi's Were The Only Ones That Gave The SCJ Problems Then It Came Down To Driver And Weight Great Time Of My Life (By The Way That 428 SCJ Is Still Running To This Day In A 1957 Show Car) Thanks For Reading

@roadtesttv

2 жыл бұрын

We’ve always thought the 7 liter big Ford’s were cool and a bold move on Ford’s part. Executive muscle car. Thanks for sharing !!

500 pounds makes a HUGE difference

@happyfreeliferc

4 жыл бұрын

With 40hp I'd say it was even.

@milojanis4901

4 жыл бұрын

It sure does!! My wife now needs overloads on her pickup truck!!

@kingvette7485

4 жыл бұрын

Ford was really bad about underrating the HP on their cars in the late 60's early 70's for insurance purposes.

@bobwhite5440

4 жыл бұрын

@@kingvette7485 everyone did that.

@rampage2587

4 жыл бұрын

Not to mention a properly built automatic is faster than a manual.

L78 is legendary. 428? I'd rather have a 427 or a 429 if I'm going with Ford. That Mustang was quick tho.

@SealofPerfection

2 жыл бұрын

True, but they never put a 427 in a Mustang. It's 428 or later on, 429 if you want cubes.

@sorshiaemms5959

2 жыл бұрын

428S WORK GOOD IN SUPER STOCK

@Brian-fp3mh

Жыл бұрын

429 was a 1/4 mile slug dude

@randycoursey7230

Жыл бұрын

@@SealofPerfection The 428 CJ is a cheaper version of the 427. If you Google the differences you'll see what I mean right away.

@randycoursey7230

Жыл бұрын

@@Brian-fp3mh The 429 was built for NASCAR where it would walk away from any Chevy in a top-end race. In order to make the Boss 429 fast on the drag strip you had to tweak it a little bit, swap out some parts for drag racing parts. But just to be clear it wasn't really a drag racing engine it was a long endurance racing engine built for 500 miles of NASCAR racing where it did very well in 69-70. In fact Ford won more races than Chrysler in this short Aero Wars NASCAR competition. Here we saw Chrysler's Dodge Daytona and Plymouth Superbirds, while Mercury had the Cyclone Special, and Ford had the Torino King Cobra.

That Chevelle is a Beauty #TeamChevy #ChevyGuy Fun Fact: In Reality The Founders of these 2 Legendary Automotive Brands went up against each other in a race, which Louis Chevrolet got The Victory over Henry Ford. 🏁🚘🔧

@gearbanger57

3 жыл бұрын

Louie beat him three times in 1905, driving a Fiat.

Hopefully they open drag strip up soon

Impressive times for both cars. I know of Many big block cars of the same years and models that ran slower times

yahh" that stock muncie shifter coast me some events to.

The Chevelle, just because I hated Fords steering boxes back the 75 turns each way

Oh I was wrong let me tweak it and not sleeping at the line

CJ 428 is 335 horsepower my ass. The 390 was rated for that too. lol. Insurance fraud!

@solice8844

4 жыл бұрын

I had a 68 Mercury Cougar 390 GT and yes it was rated at 335 HP. I know I couldn’t beat that 428 CJ!

@traveler9573

4 жыл бұрын

In reality, more like 410-420 HP

@generalpatton8468

3 жыл бұрын

Well Ford was known for lying about their horsepower ratings when they were actually much more.

If that stang is stock that is about the most awesome stang I have seen since I can remember, totally fine ride. And I`m not a Ford guy. The Chevelle failed to impress on this go. Can only drool wishing I owned either one. In my fading dreams.

@peteragersea377

4 жыл бұрын

Your right that chevelle should kick the Mustang's ass but have to say I've had bunch of chevelles but love the 69 charger and the70 torrino 429

@thatdarnneighbor

3 жыл бұрын

'69 Mustang Mach 1's are the best looking cars of all time in my opinion. Especially the 428 CJ/SCJ's

@VegasRT500

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, That 428 CJ stang is stock and lighter than the Mach One and always ran quicker times.

Automatic for the win

3200 lbs

Let Grumpy speed shift that Chevelle be a different story. RIP Mr Jenkins

bad shifting, chevelle should've busted the stang

@bigvegass

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah.......that was it.........

@davidjuarez1834

4 жыл бұрын

@nvdirtbiker 427 L88 would have destroyed that 428 CJ

@user-yv1bf4rx7r

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidjuarez1834 L88 would destroy everything, that's not fair lol

@TheBb6prelude

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-yv1bf4rx7r everything except s hemi

@erandy0240

3 жыл бұрын

wrong Chevy boy

That stang should be running low 12's with that mph.

Damn, you could tell by the burnout, that the STANG was gonna win!!

@sorshiaemms5959

2 жыл бұрын

TORQUE OVER HORSEPOWER ANY DAY IN DRAG RACING

anyone notice the video starts with the the chevelle in the right lane then switches to the chevelle in the left. editing the story ???

@SealofPerfection

2 жыл бұрын

They made multiple runs, obviously. He filmed them from up close, then from the stands.

Apples to oranges. The Mustang has a huge weight advantage.

@SealofPerfection

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention 32 more cubes. And Aunt Bea was evidently shifting the Chevelle

lol Ford dragged that Chevy

Yea I guess he won. My dog speed shifts faster! Come on and hold the go peddle down to the floor don't let off and bang the shift lever like your life depends on it. The Chevy might have won.

@badgerbait8351

4 жыл бұрын

@nvdirtbiker Interesting how it took 32 cubes and 500 lbs less for the Ford to win! Wonder how he'd do against a 427 chevy or Hemi?!

@jquest43

4 жыл бұрын

@@badgerbait8351 I wonder what made the 396 so powerful..heads??

@samuelmarsh2847

4 жыл бұрын

@@badgerbait8351 that 396 got spanked.

@howabouthetruth2157

4 жыл бұрын

@@samuelmarsh2847 Yeah, but that was about as horrible of a shift from 1st to 2nd with a 4-speed on the floor as you'll see. Watch it again. He lost a lot of time right then & there. I swear, I could shift from 1st to 2nd faster with a 3-speed on the column, lol.

@samuelmarsh2847

4 жыл бұрын

@@howabouthetruth2157 I agree, I thought the 396 would have got him off the line and the 428 would have caught him in the end.

That Mustang wasn’t stock.

My 71 Buick Ceturion 455 stage 1 stock ran in high 12's

@milojanis4901

3 жыл бұрын

Buick didn't make a Centurion in 1971, ferchrissakes!!! It was a CENTURY!!!!!

Why didn't they put a 427 L88 vs 428 CJ?

@Epik-hm8ws

2 жыл бұрын

Why didn‘t they put a SOHC 427 vs 396 L78?

@SealofPerfection

2 жыл бұрын

@@Epik-hm8ws Because the L88 actually was sold in cars and the SOHC never was, it was over the counter only. But I'd gladly race an L88 vs a SOHC.

Was an even match up

A thousand pounds will make a difference. My buddy had a fast back CJ and didn’t sound like the coupe🤔.

@VegasRT500

2 жыл бұрын

That Chevelle 396 didnt sound like it should either and not even close. LOL!

Ford beats Chevy I'm a Ford guy so yeah

L78 in a Nova. Game over!

@roadtesttv

4 жыл бұрын

That video is coming ... stay tuned.

@BBBILLY86

4 жыл бұрын

@@roadtesttv yes!!! Thank you. Have a 70 Nova with a '66 396 in it. You just made my day.

@glasserallen

4 жыл бұрын

428 Cobra jet in 64 mustang game over Chevy boy!

@davidh1249

4 жыл бұрын

@@glasserallen ,Although I am a Ford owner and love the first gen Mustang,there's no way an FE big block is fitting between the shock towers of any pre-67 Mustang.

@BBBILLY86

4 жыл бұрын

@@glasserallen 64's were nice lightweight platforms. I think the highest motor that year was a k code 289. 270 hp? The 65's were better. GT350 stepped up the 289 to over 300 hp.

Not bad for a family car racing a pony car.

@GearheadRob319

Жыл бұрын

tell a SS 396 owner he owns a family car. Lol

Chevy or Ford??

Chevy 396 fan

Chevelle wins before I seeit

Not hating on this channel in anyway, but it seems like these tests are really useless because the motors have been blue printed and tweaked in such a way that they’re re not nearly anything like they were coming from the factory... Nice cars anyway....

@BBBILLY86

4 жыл бұрын

They are built within strict rules. About as stock as your gonna get for 50 year old cars.

@roadtesttv

4 жыл бұрын

You are correct, sir.

@MidnightinSavannah

4 жыл бұрын

No matter what they do to the engine they still have to run the same size and type tire that had 50 years ago and compared to the huge tires that are on a modern day car. I mean, no roller cams, no 10 speed auto trans, or Fuel injection, no electronics it's no not easy task to get these cars to run like they do.

@bradleylovej

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you said this. I always thought that's what was happening, but I wasn't sure. I kept watching these pure stock videos and seeing eye popping times, thinking it was the tires at first. Then everyone says they use the same style tires from the period, so I figured it had to be engine blueprinting. All I know is, the times from this pure stock class are higher across the board than what I remember the cars running (or being reported to run).

I would've won. I had a 69 SS396 back then, TurboHydro 400, 375hp. I would've left that Mustang at the starting gate.

Pitiful driving by the Chevelle. 🙈🙈

425 hp vs 375 hp I’d say the Chevy held its own put that mustank up against a ls6 454 450hp chevelle

@Itisusa

3 жыл бұрын

428 Mustangs had 335hp not 425.

@milojanis4901

3 жыл бұрын

@@Itisusa Only 335hp, eh? Whose fault is that? They were seriously underrated, too. Probably were 335hp.....At 3,500rpm!! Like the L88 Chevy was 430hp......at 4,000rpm......

@marcusguy1726

2 жыл бұрын

Cj was NHRA rated around 400-410 hp. Closer race if the Chevelle shift wasn't missed.

@SealofPerfection

2 жыл бұрын

@@Itisusa 440 lb/ft vs 415, though. And 500lbs lighter.

Poor Ford.....3rd place to Dodge and GM