Ford SUPERCAR drag races Nismo Touring Champion! Falcon V8 vs Super GT 350Z
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A match you thought could only happen in Gran Turismo we’re bringing to you IRL straight from Australia! Con’s Ford Falcon EL was built by legendary Aussie racer Glenn Seton and has all the cool racecar things like dual fuel ports and a ITBs on its 5.0L Windsor small block. Nismo built a certified champion when it made Dale’s Super GT 350Z, and it also has the cool racecar things like loads of carbon fiber, giant radiator ducts, and a VQ35 so spicy it needs a restrictor.
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This Australian series has been massively entertaining. People bringing out some cars with legit history.
@flyduckydrift
Жыл бұрын
💯
@cuconatparfour665
Жыл бұрын
Plus those Aussie guys are so wholesome
@75Cruze
Жыл бұрын
Straya butha
@turbojer
Жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more! One of my only consistently watched youtube channels, and this Australian series has been a breath of fresh air.
@JeepCherokeeful
Жыл бұрын
Very few “legit” car “enthusiasts”
That 350z must be insane with the restrictions taken out
@MrDjsmooth87
Жыл бұрын
Dude, my jaw dropped when he said that 🤣
@samteks125
Жыл бұрын
Those snorkels look tiny, that poor engine must be close to choking!
@GetOffMyLog
Жыл бұрын
550 crank with no restriction, compression and revs must be crazy
@hamie63_m
Жыл бұрын
Yea FR whyyyy did he show up with those on?
@LegerAndCo
Жыл бұрын
There's NA 350z a with a 640hp homemade built GT-LM that Sacha Anis custom did. way more impressive than this Nismo made one. and that's saying something considering he did this in a small fab shop and isn't a Nissan employee. go watch it your jaws will drop even more. 9K rpm's with ITB's NA Vq35 pushing over 600 crank. IT's the best sounding VQ EVER.
The tucking caught me off guard lol
@dancearoundtheworld5360
Жыл бұрын
skipped 4 chapters aftr that shit
@bobdole1570
Жыл бұрын
EVERYONE caught with their pants down on that one…wait-what?
@tylert558
Жыл бұрын
That shit was disrespectful to the man giving the interview about his car. He doesn’t most likely want that shit in the middle of his section
@cryptid187
Жыл бұрын
@@tylert558 calm down bro i guarantee he would've thought it was funny
@greywarden7694
Жыл бұрын
All the homophobes getting their panties in a twist
That V8 Ford Falcon brings back memories for me
@stangkiller1789
Жыл бұрын
Gran Turismo vibes for me!
@JaredR1996
Жыл бұрын
@@stangkiller1789 EXACTLY
@bigmungi1
Жыл бұрын
Memories of being flogged by a vr clubsport
@RICHYSUNCLE
Жыл бұрын
@@bigmungi1pretty much 😂😂
@Saffsa
Жыл бұрын
@@bigmungi1El Won Bathurst 😂😂
That 350z was honestly a treat! Also the falcon is a great machine!! 10/10 content! Both cars are champions & still cooking 🧑🍳
The JGTC cars are some of the coolest looking blend of racecar aero and factory chassis with the crazy fenders and duct work. They are so iconic to anyone thats played Gran Turismo as well.
@AbrahamArthemius
Жыл бұрын
The current GT500 is also impressive as well. Being able to match (even beat) current Hypercar/GTP speed and doing all of that with an Inline-4 Turbo
Hands down the coolest pair of cars we've seen on This Vs That
@That2007YZFR6THUNDERCAT
Жыл бұрын
naw the falcon is mid id rather see the hoonicorn
@izzy031096
Жыл бұрын
@@That2007YZFR6THUNDERCATWhat do you have against the falcon that you feel the need to make negative comments about it in every thread. Get a life.
@GTSW1FT
Жыл бұрын
@@izzy031096 hes a mustang fan boy
@izzy031096
Жыл бұрын
@@GTSW1FT Makes sense. Coon > Stang every day of the week.
@FG_F6
Жыл бұрын
@@GTSW1FThe also doesn’t understand that thing has swung around Bathurst for 160 laps and even more and more. If it was a FGX v8 supercar that would’ve whipped it.
As old as the Falcon is, it sure held it's ground
@That2007YZFR6THUNDERCAT
Жыл бұрын
ehh
@walter9724
Жыл бұрын
I felt like he was being gentle with it like he wasn't giving it it's all
@That2007YZFR6THUNDERCAT
Жыл бұрын
@@walter9724 blowing his engine
@FG_F6
Жыл бұрын
@@That2007YZFR6THUNDERCAT wdym eh the thing is old as and has been swung around for years.
@walter9724
Жыл бұрын
@@That2007YZFR6THUNDERCAT what I meant
Love them old v8 supercars, they look and sound so good imo
@tiagosilva.b5
Жыл бұрын
old school all the way 💪🏽💪🏽
@GetawayGuyDriver
Жыл бұрын
@tiagosilva.b5 prefer the 4 door saloons of the falcons and commodores over the new Australian supercar v8's
@tiagosilva.b5
Жыл бұрын
@@GetawayGuyDriver I think touring cars in general are just amazing cars tbh
@ronkerjake1
10 ай бұрын
Dem ITBs
The falcon is probably the best car on this series yet.
@slowvq9371
4 күн бұрын
Nissan is better
I'm not a fan of how a VQ sounds, but that one sounds freaking majestic! Why can't all VQ engines sound like that!
@air-headedaviator1805
Жыл бұрын
Only costs a million in development
@captaincouldverc
Жыл бұрын
@@air-headedaviator1805 Bro.... that's dirt cheap..... now a days 😆 🤣 😆
@Thekidsinafrica14
Жыл бұрын
The sequential really does make an engine sound different
@Wockkkyyslushieee
Жыл бұрын
@@Thekidsinafrica14that trans is worth as much as a brand new Camry
@joshjamesguitar
Жыл бұрын
Different header setup probably
The Falcon has that touring car stance, unbeatable
Old 90s aussie v8 Supercars sound absolutely amazing
That "tuck" cutaway caught me off guard fam!!! LMFAO!!!
As an aussie who grew up watching v8 supercars nothing will ever beat the roar of v8 supercar 15:52
@biggiesmalls7939
Жыл бұрын
100%. I was annoyed that the 350 was SO much louder than the falcon..... The falcon was muted by the obnoxious sounding z. Falcon sounds SO good.
@TassieLorenzo
4 ай бұрын
Jaguar XJS V12 Group C and Group A sounds way better though? 🤔
Dude, THESE are the cars we grew up with. This was one of the best episodes solely based on the history behind these two cars.
I've never seen this Ford falcon before but it just oozes iconic 90s race car
@wittlemidget
Жыл бұрын
The Ford vs Holden team was pretty much the biggest rivalry especially down in Australia. If you want to check out more 90s Australian race cars, check out the VS/VT commodores that this thing would race against at Bathurst.
@isaiahellis3716
Жыл бұрын
That really was a ford escort with a 302 v8vl rear wheel drive did excellent
@myopinion69420
Жыл бұрын
@@isaiahellis3716 that's not a ford escort...
@aussieausdeutschland4245
Жыл бұрын
@@isaiahellis3716 it definitely ain't a Eskie, its nearly twice the size of a MK5 Escort... I should know I've had a 95 MK5 Escort and I currently Own a 98 EL Falcon XR6.
@canadianbluepants9446
Жыл бұрын
@@isaiahellis3716 wrong
Never in my life i would see V8 supercars and JGTC side by side like this. It's like a dream. Great content❤ thanks for making my dream come true❤
I can't believe that Z was quicker on the straight considering it was down by over 260hp, less torque and with Aero that is designed for max down force. Absolutely unreal ❤
@tturi2
Жыл бұрын
I think old mate may have been not going to redline, those engines have very short life cycles and are extremely expensive
@blueman5924
Жыл бұрын
Sequential vs H pattern ? bang, bang bang….
@davidyang577
Жыл бұрын
@@blueman5924 the super v8s runs a dog box. You can flat shift the thing.
@Jake_Hamlin
Жыл бұрын
1100 kg vs 2000+ kg
@davidyang577
Жыл бұрын
@@TeeWhyEss actually if you look carefully the 350z was on road tyre for this race where the Super v8 was on slicks
Man those Japanese GT cars are so sick. All of em really. Nissan obviously having many of the classic ones, but man they are so cool. I love Ford too tho, great Era for sure of Ford racing.
gosh, the Australians are just so damn well mannered. top notch blokes
@GingerKidCustoms
Жыл бұрын
Cus they're sober 😂😂😂😂
That Z is an ABSOLUTE piece of art, beautiful
Perfect timing because yesterday a 3 time v8 supercar racer won a nascar race on his first nascar start on the Chicago street course
@lucasblanchard47
Жыл бұрын
That was an awesome race! SVG is an incredible driver!
@Mike.hobbies
Жыл бұрын
I hope he goes full time, then we can enjoy watching the v8 supercars again
That tuck made me pause because I had to walk away laughing😂😂😂
@samteks125
Жыл бұрын
Where'd you go?
@kitrous9939
Жыл бұрын
@@samteks125away
About Hawk pads: I use the 5.0’s for autocross and daily driving. They’re fantastic, BUT I do NOT recommend the HPS pads. I had them on an 03 Mazda protege and they were terrible to daily drive on, just my personal experience. Now about the 5.0’s: I’ve overheated them a couple times at tail of the dragon to the point they were bellowing smoke yet they never faded! They’re very consistent and great for autoX when they’re hot. Great pad, can’t recommend them enough!
@One_LuvZ
Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to run the dragon in hopefully the z32. Also, I've been looking fornpads to run on it and will look into those 5.0
The owners are the type of guys that do those weird Rally races in Gran Turismo that gifted race cars as prizes 😂
Man that Falcon brings back some memories, only wish it was the 1997 variant with the same colours but the #30 that Seton used to win the championship that year. I grew up going to Oran Park, Eastern Creek and Bathurst to see that era of car race, V8 Supercar's still have their charm now, but that time from the mid 90's to the mid 2000's was so special as a fan.
Without question, Seton's EL is my favourite V8 of the era. The stance, the livery, the sound.. just perfection.
Race bred cars are awesome, I would love a build biology of the 350z
4:01 was not ready for that jumpscare
I am not surprised on the dig win. Those GT cars have some insane amounts of traction from a dig or very low speeds. (edit) man even on the roll race, with the amount of downforce that Z33 has, still running away from that old Falcon. Not even counting that big power difference compared to a smaller weight.
Yesss I have been waiting for this line up!! I was only 3 years old when the EL Falcon was on track but it was my first love when it comes to racing cars and racing in general 😍
Sick Z ! Legendary
one of the best race series so far!!! Every race was very close.... great job guys
These are both Iconic cars. I used to race that Ford around Bathurst on my Playstation.
The Falcon reminds me, so much of my cousin's old English Touring car replica.
Gary! That freaking intro bro! 😂😂😂 I was eating lunch and almost spit my drink out!
The sound of that 350z is unreal
So interesting about left side driving position super gt Z. I have never known this individual. So cool!!
A vq that actually sounds good, I’m impressed
Oh! the tire fitment part got me unaware 🤣🤣
At 13:43 I’m shocked Zac didn’t pick the American V8 (with side-exhaust)! Crushed heart and soul. 😅
@shxgvnn4865
Жыл бұрын
It’s not an American v8 though
@fisheye42
Жыл бұрын
@@shxgvnn4865Ah, yeah that Windsor 302/5.0 might have been built by Ford Australia. But Ford America built/shipped some 302s to Aus, too. I guess I meant “American designed”. - can we agree on that? 😅
Such a great mix of noise! Angry Bee of the Z along side the classic noise of the screaming v8 supercar. Sound up!!!
I grew up with v8 supercars and seeing that brought back so many memories of Sunday watching the races with my dad. However that 350z is insane! We need the exhaust recipe for that stat, if vq's sounded like that drift events would be so much more enjoyable
@philsnow-zv2xu
Жыл бұрын
It's 6-2 header with dual exits, that's why it sounds like you have twin inline-3s. All VQ30 and VQ35 in JGTC / SuperGT always sounded like that
Probably the nicest VQ i ever heard
this brung back GT4 memories for me. These two cars are iconic!
Best sounding VQ I've ever heard! sounds sic rolling through the gears.
That is the sickest sounding z I’ve ever heard! I wish mine sounded like that my god!!!
I felt blueballed on the Z. It sounds like its missing at least another 2k rpm at the top during the shifts
Damn this is the race ive been waiting for, the z sounds so wild and i love it but you cant not be a fan of V8 supercars!
Great racing. Two sick ass race cars, especially the Nismo Z.
Love them old v8 supercars, they look and sound so good imo. Hoonigan’s editors are on fire. The tuck had me crying ..
Truly amazing to see a actual old nismo race car
@Hughjanus720
Жыл бұрын
It’s not a real one, this one has a gt300 engine with aero from gt500 it never would of actually raced in this configuration
@philsnow-zv2xu
Жыл бұрын
@@Hughjanus720it's a GT300 spec Z with updated aero. GT500 Zs sits way lower, making the front fenders stick upward
That Falcon is sick!
Holy shit the Nissans SOUND! MY GOD it's AMAZING!
Vq35de haters will never understand what this gt500 car is capable of.
@Hughjanus720
Жыл бұрын
It had a vq30dett and then a 4.5litre v8 there was no vq35
@trilliamogdlocog4986
Жыл бұрын
@@Hughjanus720 bruh you need to do a bit more research the 350z in this video has a naturally aspirated VQDE.. the ford had a v8...
@leograae
Жыл бұрын
@@trilliamogdlocog4986 he's correct in the context of GT500. The GT500 350Zs first used VQ30DETTs, then VK45s. Your comment is correct about THIS car being VQ35 powered, but thats because it's a GT300 car, not GT500.
@Hughjanus720
Жыл бұрын
This is a “fake” gt500, it has the gt300 engine with gt500 body kit etc, it never would of been a competition car it’s a mock up to look like one
@philsnow-zv2xu
Жыл бұрын
that's a GT300 spec car, not a GT500. GT500 350Zs actually sits way lower, making the front fenders stick out even more than the GT300 spec Zs
Aussies still killin it! Would love to know how fast that Z would go without the restrictors. Would give a few forced induction cars a run for their money. Not bad for a little V6
The editor deserves his job. Gary is an American treasure. Carry on,bois.
for those people not familiar with Ford Falcons: they were the family saloon body on a Ford Mustang chassis. they were deeply unpopular in the US but went mental in Australia, i suspect because of the chunky boxy shape and the extra room you get with a saloon. consequently you get 5.0 Litre 80s "not-fox-body" Must...Falcons and so on and they are just as awesome as Mustangs, because only the body is different, everything else is literally identical, year-for-year, model-for-model, because that saved Ford a ton of money in mass-production of components!
What I’d do to drive that 350z… wow!! Great video Hoonigan!!🔥🙏🏼
That falcon is soooo cool! Period touring cars are the jam
Ah this match up brought back some Gran Turismo 4 memories!
Very clean Z but I still can’t get over the sound of that trumpet 🔥😂🎺
I don't normally like the this vs that vids. Skipping 90% of the videos to see em run This one hits different, I LOVE this. Mainly because I have a huge respect for the aussie supercar racing, and the Japanese dedication to racing. Team race cars are so much more interesting than most others(except Dahm)
That old school Aussie V8 sound 😍😍
This blew my mind that the nissan took the win! Hp numbers mean nothing when driver mod and car weight outshines everything else. ✌🏼🖤
@PunkPino
Жыл бұрын
And the sequential gearbox
@Saffsa
Жыл бұрын
@@PunkPinoblew your mind 😂😂 lite weight is everything
@alexking1251
Жыл бұрын
The other thing is gearing. Those V8 Supercars also run really tall gearing for high top speed.
@randomdude4669
Жыл бұрын
@@Saffsadiff gears and gearbox and the fact its built for high speed racing kinda plays a part, its like expecting a nascar to dominated at a drag strip or drift event
With the loss of both the Falcon and the Commodore. I was really hoping the Falcon could hold on. But I feel the driver was a bit tender with the old girl. So a remarkable performance against the Z while being Sunday driven.
@randomdude4669
Жыл бұрын
Its also meant for high speed racing not launching and street racing if it had different diff gears and gearbox it would have won
I was not ready for that tuck. Had to replay it.
That falcon was about to pass the z if it was a bit longer...aussie muscle 20 plus years old still done well against new technology z
@arkhsm
Жыл бұрын
Much harder to hook up that power and torque through a similar size tyre. For those not in the know, the V8 Supercars were limited to 7,500rpm by regulations !!
@randomdude4669
Жыл бұрын
The falcon has tall gearing and is meant for high speed racing vs car setup for actual launching speed
@philsnow-zv2xu
Жыл бұрын
to be fair, the Z has tiny intake restrictors on it plus the aero that slows it down the straight line
How quick the z slaps limiter doing doughnuts is sick 👌
the nissan is pure effect (perfect)
Loving this Australian series! Some of these cars I've been following for years on Instagram etc, and that 1998 EL Falcon Supercar, 25 years!
Good race! The Falcon was catching up by the end, due to lower drag. I wish we could've had a run with just the Falcon or the celebratory donuts at the end, to hear that glorious ITB V8! Damn tha VQ is noisy, and this one's not even that bad...
@bruizey7319
Жыл бұрын
I think it has more to do with the gearing, 1st gear on those old supercars was so long, they used to regularly break axles or burn out clutches from a standing start, especially if they had a full tank (like Bathurst).
@DR3ADER1
Жыл бұрын
Long gears and the weight gap led to the Falcon losing 2-1. However, if a GT500 spec 350Z competed instead of the GT300 (which is impossible because those cars are technically "loaned" from the big 3 Japanese Manufacturers, and are often donated to museums after their tenure on the track ends with a few exceptions such as the 90s GT500 Supra that's rotting outside of a shop in the Japanese Midlands), the Falcon would lose 2-0.
Oh man I love seeing these older types of iconic race cars still being driven hard! Also 5:42 what’re those two “soft/hard” adjustment levers used for? Great content as always, much love from Texas!
@NBSV1
Жыл бұрын
Probably for adjusting the sway bars.
@boostedzjadventurevlogs4121
Жыл бұрын
Noooo way huh? Someone please chime in!
@alexking1251
Жыл бұрын
Those are for adjusting the sway bars. All the V8 Supercars run them except for the latest generation where that was removed by regulations
@GreenCrim
Жыл бұрын
Yep, sway bars. The cars had big fuel tanks so from full to empty the balance of the car would change enough that being able to adjust the bars gave an advantage. Would have probably helped in the wet too.
@paule4204
Жыл бұрын
As said above swaybars front and rear adjustment. The use to change them regularly through the race based on fuel load and tire wear. Also if it rained they would adjust.
The Cessnas and Air Tractors flying by... LOVE IT!
The 350 might be one of the best sounding cars on TvT ever.
Gary isn't the metric we need, but he's definitely the one we deserve 🤘🏻
I think its time for a hoonigan deep south. A hoonigan down unda division!
That tucking it meme got me Rollin god damn it ahahahhahhaha
The Falcon is a legend regardless. Classic work of art.
Regardless of your preferred spec, you got to admit, the internal young fella inside us all is losing it right now!
The Z reminds me of having my CRX with a B16 and tyranny with that super short gearing that made you feel like a God from stop light to stop light. 😂
@samteks125
Жыл бұрын
Tyranny 😂😂
@WeylandLabs
Жыл бұрын
@samteks125 You caught that ! I was going to change it back but thought my spellcheck was hilarious for that one, so I left it as I'm leaving it now. 🤣
4:57 😂 just a random zoom-in that sends the crew off scene lol
Old 90s aussie v8 Supercars sound absolutely amazing. As old as the Falcon is, it sure held it's ground.
May I kindly ask if you guys are going to post Lia’s Pikes Peak run? Pretty please, thanks.
I wonder what a track battle between these two motorsports would look like. A much newer Supercar would probably be needed to keep up with any GT500 car (with restrictors like seen here)
@pkblade
Жыл бұрын
GT500 would need a lot of weight handicap & power restrictors for parity. GT500’s would have closer races with Formula 2 & LMP cars around a track. Saying that the v8 Supercar series generally did have some of the best battles & more exciting races than most
@MJY5drives
Жыл бұрын
@@pkblade GT300?
@pkblade
Жыл бұрын
@@MJY5drives add slight weight handicap to the GT300 then would be interesting
That Z is SO SICK!!
Finally... a VQ that sounds good...
Really cool race cars. I’d love see a comparison on a track with these. Falcon makes more power, but the Z has more downforce
@Saffsa
Жыл бұрын
That model Won Bathurst 😂😂
@jameshealy4594
Жыл бұрын
@@Saffsa Yeah and that Z won Suzuka.... twice....
@rotarypower956
Жыл бұрын
@@Saffsa that z has a high win pedigree as well. Why I want to see both on the same course.
@Saffsa
Жыл бұрын
@@jameshealy4594 yeh but the El is a glorified Mum Dad and the kids grocery getter 😂😂👍👍
@randomdude4669
Жыл бұрын
@@rotarypower956yeh but falcon has been built for racing and has won and the z is just something someone built so no real comparison
Whoever decided to make the background Scotto's wall of motors and transmissions is in need of a raise.
Both of these cars sound great in their own way, always been a v8 guy but that's a great v6 sound
They need to arrange someone to take Zac and that for laps around Bathurst 😂😂😂😂😂
ayoo.... 4:01
@LIl-bl9ut
Жыл бұрын
💀💀💀
So awesome to see these drag!
Need that 350z GT car in more racing games.. awesome car! And it's competing field is in the same boat
Good to see Glenn seatons old ford still alive. I'm a holden fan but that ford is still an Australian icon.
I remember using that Z in GT4.
Love love love this “down unda” series! Anyone else catch that scene when the Z was spitting flames out of it’s side pipes?!?
That was sick!
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