Traction control is turned off when rock mode is turned on in the raptor.

When it comes to comfort during long, bumpy rides, I'd go for the Ford Ranger any day.

@sharepremium8614

2 жыл бұрын

very right

Nice vid, both are impressive vehicles, would like to see the raptor do the last hill in other modes tho to see the difference.

Grass/Gravel/Snow mode - designed to inspire safe and confident driving on off-road slippery and uneven surfaces Mud/Sand mode - tuning vehicle responses for optimum traction and momentum in deep, deformable surfaces like loose sand and mud Rock mode - specifically for low-speed rocky terrain where smooth controllability is key. Put it in the right mode guys

Driving a hilux daily it holds gears in LowRange quite well. Especially in down hill. The ride is average and has no balls for overtaking etc. flex is pretty good. Good to see factory rear lockers finally. Only 8 years after Mitsubishi offered it on the Triton.

You guys can say anything about the Hilux... but if both have to go through this kind of road on a regular basis, there's no doubt which one will last much longer. And, if both do need repairs you can bet the Hilux will not be as bad on your pocket.

so what mode do you use for river crossings for the ford raptor?

I have driven both, and I'm not biased,,but, the raptor is the car I'd buy...more grunt from a smaller motor

@jdexplores01

2 жыл бұрын

And that's not a good thing

Hilux is obviously better with true walk in the park ability plus when you look at price. Hilux is definitely value for money. No frills and gets the job done

@mik3952

Жыл бұрын

Yes you're right. But it's butt ugly no matter what off road limited edition package they throw on it...

can you guys test other pick ups on the market in comparison to these

any opinions on the 2016 hilux models? or bite the bullet and splash an extra $20k for the rugged?

They are both insanely amazing utes

Are there any more test grounds besides like sand and high speed desert or big red climb or is this only a articulation wheel slip test?

That is an awesome bar on the hilux! where can I get one of them or does anyone know the make of it?

@alexellery7596

4 жыл бұрын

stock on the rugged x

Great to see the kind of behind the scenes testing 🐨

Can you guys test the X class 350d?

Just two Australians having fun in thier back yard xD

Nice! What running boards Ranger Raptor has?

Good traction control test! Once the magic button DL is pressed the playing fields are even except in this case the Raptor has front EDL which the Lux doesn’t have. Fit recent Tyres and a 50ml lift and the Lux becomes unstoppable.

What a camera for the record this video?

Great review. I know there were a few unhappy reviewers feeling it’s biased towards the Ruggered, however still found the test useful. Out of interest, has anyone purchased one they didn’t have their heart set on at the beginning and why? My heart was set on the Ford but I keep coming back to the Toyota. I have no allegiance to either and believe both are excellent overall. Let me know if you were in similar position and what changed your mind.

@bighands69

4 жыл бұрын

The Ford would be better as a daily driver and be nicer to drive as well. Toyota will be more durable than the Ford.

@FoxMcScrooge

2 жыл бұрын

I bought the Ford Ranger XLT. I'm a little disappointed with the auto gearbox. Takes a bit of getting used to and feels a bit slippy. Plenty of tuning options available to change that but it will void the drive train warranty. To be fair I did come from a manual. Apart from that it's a really good car. Great on road. Very comfortable interior and the tech is really good with adaptive cruise and lane assist. For off road it's a lot easier to fit 33s or larger on the Ranger compared to the Hilux which makes a big difference when modded. The PX3 has the bump stop in the shock which limits front wheel travel to a degree but IFS has pretty poor articulation no matter what. Options to change that too with hydraulic bumpstops etc if you have the dollars.

Rock mode on a slippery surface?

Hilux didnt even try hard nice and smooth 👌👌

i think he said "no difflock engaged" on the last run. why not engage the lock

Be good if you could get the NTrek Warrior and test that alongside these two vehicles then compare all three against BT50, Triton, and Amarok. The point being whether paying the extra dollars is worth it or are you better off buying a standard model and upgrading it.

Great review,

i want to buy the Ranger Raptor, but cant..... 😔😔

diff lock guys? and use the mud and snow mode, tsk2x

Haha, good little vid. I have a '17 hilux with a two inch lift and 33 muddies, massive upgrade in capability to these two stockies.

This is exactly what these cars were made for!

Very interesting!!! Exactly the type of review we want to see!! Would love to see more comparisons done like this. Great job guys 👍👍

😊😊😊 you should take a good test about everest titanium too😊😊 thank you!

If you are going to test two 4WD's then make sure you don't have any bias towards a brand in doing so. Carrying more speed in the hilux is an obvious issue in the tests to point out and then also what tyre pressures where you running in the raptor? The tyres did not look as low in pressure as the hiluxes did. Also get the right drive mode for the conditions. You seemed more happy in a lower tech 4WD than the more high tech system found in the ford but then you should be fully learning and understanding both before testing them. What works on a lower tech system is not what works best on a more updated hightech system.

@stephenleskow7959

5 жыл бұрын

Tamiya Fan THIS!!

@HighTowerAU

5 жыл бұрын

That and it sounded like the park brake was pulled on in the raptor, listen to the brake squeel all the way up the hill climb

@shanevonharten3100

5 жыл бұрын

@@HighTowerAU brakes control traction , thats how it works

@PopEye2384

4 жыл бұрын

Very aptly said brother....

@stfuplsok

4 жыл бұрын

Tamiya Fan *4WDs were* you *hilux's

Love the Raptor I'm dying for one

Ranger Wildtrak would be more appropriate for this comparison..maybe Tacoma TRD Offroad vs Ranger Raptor

Adjustments should be traction control off and rear locker on

Would love to see an LC79 go at it as well :)

WOW just wow! My dream car....... how i wish someday i could have one of those.. when i was a kid i was deeply inlove with pick up trucks. Ford raptor is a beast! But then after seeing hilux ohh man.. twin brotha of raptor beast! Gift me pleaseeee lol

@clays563

4 жыл бұрын

lenovo garen Mate you dream low these cars are bricks if you want a real 4bie get a GQ

@EABayuaji

4 жыл бұрын

Its a ford ranger raptor not a ford raptor

On the uphill part, why did you go so much slower in the raptor? Redo the test, stay at a constant speed in both trucks

@ronyalefaio

4 жыл бұрын

i know you are ford guy,,,but hey you can't beat a hilux lol

@Marauder252

3 жыл бұрын

They was being very careful with the Raptor. The probably just borrowed it and was afraid to scratch it.

@hotrod7603

3 жыл бұрын

@@ronyalefaio Lol Hilux is a joke in front of ranger , just taxi fankid things

It’s a pleasure seeing some reasonable men exploring without playing ARB TJM roulette for their own insecurities. Well done.

in both trucks was the rear differential lock activated?

@Unsealed

5 жыл бұрын

On the way down both were not activated. But coming back up the track they both had the rear diff lock on

@virgfresco1403

5 жыл бұрын

@@Unsealedu should turned off the traction control for the Raptor and rear diff on

Please can you tell me what colour this ranger is. I love it

@GenAfterNextTactics

3 жыл бұрын

Gray

Why not lock the rear diffs of the utes? This comparison seems worthless without doing that because that's how everyone will use the utes in the situations shown in the video.

I’ve heard a lot of people that have bought one of these have had problems with the gearboxes??

@LachlanPhil

4 жыл бұрын

I thinks that's only the auto ones. I've got a manual and it's fine

Am not an expert . Which is the best?

These test don't let the raptor do its thing. Raptor will do this trails, but its strong suit is elsewhere like being confortable, able to drive fast offroad, etc.

@raspy-44m

5 жыл бұрын

Jose M one thing a pick up truck always has. Off-road capabilities

@chris8181

4 жыл бұрын

Jose M agree, passed a whole bunch of utes bogged on Frasier island while the raptor was playing in the sand like toddler with a new toy 😉

@stfuplsok

4 жыл бұрын

Jose M This* test *doesn't

@Bob16389

2 жыл бұрын

Just saying this because your a Ford raptor fan if you haven’t seen the conquest the raptor is crushed by it the Toyota conquest is like the Toyota hilux but better and more reliable.

Why Rock mode not Baja mode 🤔

Sidesteps will be torn off by afternoon.

I think the raptor badge is focused on offroad baja. Thats why it couldnt perform well on those tracks. The ranger raptor is certainly on a different category. So its actually a bad comparison.

Need the same tires to tell about the grip with each system. The hilux will slip easier while the ranger with bigger tires are grabbing harder makes it bounce more.

@pablosimeonbeats7051

3 жыл бұрын

this review is based on stock from a dealer. probably the most honest and well performed review of the two.

They had the raptor in totally the wrong mode. And they have no idea what they are doing

@vincebinag5543

4 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@inline6908

4 жыл бұрын

We will never get a proper comparrison

@connorpretorius6007

4 жыл бұрын

We went for an off-road course with ford when we bought one and they explained all the features and how to correctly use them These guys don’t know how to drive it correctly

@juanzuniga7343

4 жыл бұрын

I had the same feeling..not a good comparison

@ThePembetulan

4 жыл бұрын

Agree..

Rock mode was the wrong mode for that and he stopped the Ford several times, making it jerky while maintaining the momentum in the Toyota. From a Toyota guy....

How good is it seeing a video, where the vehicles are the focus, not the presenters trying to recite specs.

toyota not yet lifted right?

So the HilLux on standard road tyres got up the last rutted hill with less wheel spin and quicker. Yet the Raptor took a bit longer and had more wheel spin.

@jasper-ft3ei

5 жыл бұрын

Have you ever thought about becoming a detective?

@tukmol5881

2 жыл бұрын

Raptors are built to dominate desserts and Hilux are built for the amazons.

good drive test

que no se note que le bajan el aire a las llantas de la ford para que tenga mas agarre

My opinion, both cars are Capable for this job. It all depends on what the drivers drivingstyle is. Anyhow I got a Ranger Wildtrack with an off-road 4X4 pack and it does good to my likings.

@Mu5tyLaghmani

4 жыл бұрын

Hilux has more superior technology like the KDSS technology that's why for skids more and hilux doesn't

@amirhossainzadeh3951

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mu5tyLaghmani only the 200 series Landcruiser has KDSS.

@AggregateUser

4 жыл бұрын

I think the Wildtrak is an amazingly comfortable and versatile Ute, but I choose Hilux to avoid the endlessly irritating safety features of the Wildtrak. Lights all over the dash, sensors buzzing at me all the time. I don’t buy a Ute so it can tell me how to drive it. I’d get a Tesla if I wanted that

@amirhossainzadeh3951

4 жыл бұрын

@@AggregateUser I agree, but now even the new 2019 Hilux has Toyota Safety Sense.

The ford had off-road tire where as the hilux had road tires but still performed better just shows how much better Toyota is

A good overview there. I have the stock Ranger (well, almost stock- lifted and 33's) and have taken it on tracks with a Rugged X. The traction control on the "Yota is significantly better. The problem for the Rugged X comes when you get the next stage harder and need to put the lockers in. The front traction control on the 'Yota turns off and it is behind the Ranger by a long shot. THIS is where cv's are broken. The maintenance of front traction control with the rear locker in is the main reason I chose the Ranger over the Toyota. So far, I haven't regretted the decision but if you don't at least occasionally play hard, the Rugged X is a great vehicle and, as you noted, still quite capable. Whack a front locker in the Rugged X (& better tyres) and you'd be well pleased.

@darrenmclaren3760

5 жыл бұрын

Great advice...

I love the look of the raptor but will always take the hilux. It’s that badge Toyota, you know you are always going to get home.

@Bodonism

3 жыл бұрын

yep, no wonder hilux is the best selling utes in almost every countries it's available..

@K24B

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bodonism even the t3rr0r1st using it

@bravohotel

7 ай бұрын

Dumb

@bravohotel

Ай бұрын

Toyota, the king of mediocrity 🥱

Warning: essay This video was made 2 years ago, and I just got my Ranger Raptor 5 months ago. This is my first time watching this video. I just got back from tracking a trail we're planning to develop into a road (I'm a contractor). There's a lot of deep ruts like in this video, and a lot of loose mud over base course on the flats we just graded. It was raining hard that time. All I have to say is, whoever was driving that Raptor is too affected by Ford's questionable reliability. To be honest, I'm just waiting for my 10 speed to grenade. Idgaf, though, because I'm covered by a 555 promo (5 year warranty, 5 years free maintenance, 5 years free roadside assistance.) I've dealt with shitty Ford aftersales before, but I can definitely make a claim for the gearbox because it really is made out of glass and I can prove it's Ford's fault lol. So how did I go about the trail? I said fuck it and used the Fox shocks and Baja mode for what they're meant to do. I didn't use Rock or Mud mode on the ruts anymore because I was confident enough not to need them, plus the BFG K02 tires gripped fine on the first try so I didn't bother. instagram.com/p/CZqs2sRPPAF/? Here's some shitty pictures of the Raptor on the flats. We couldn't take good pics anywhere else because we just took advantage of a small window when the site security wasn't looking. I gotta say, no other truck on site could perform as effortlessly as my Raptor. We've got Stradas (Triton), Hiluxes, and Navaras, but none of them had the Raptor's straight-up control. All of us slid on the mud, and even the on site PM who was our guide to our designated lot in a Navara Pro-4X would rather go around the ruts than go straight through them. I just went through no problem. We roamed the land for about 2 hours to discuss site schedule and all that jazz while traversing ruts, loose mud, and some muddy puddles that would sink an unsuspecting truck. After the site inspection, my team still had to go back to the office to report, so I drove 40km back on asphalt with dried mud still on the body and wheel wells. It looked pretty cool. The best part, though, is that after all that abuse, there were no rattles, no vibrations, no alignment issues, nothing. It was like I never went through the trail at all. What about the Hilux, though? Let's just say the 2017 suspension upgrade so that it passes the moose test did absolutely nothing. It's still the truck that I see toppled at the side of the road all the time. That title used to belong to the 1st gen Ford Everest. Not anymore. Personally, it's also rather ugly and spartan. It's not reliable anymore, too. I'm getting a lot of nightmare stories about DPF failures and straight-up shit ride quality. The window controls are the first thing to break, and on brand new units too. It's weird seeing somebody in a Hilux Conquest, for example, opening his entire door just to get a toll ticket. It happens a lot. I wouldn't comment on it if it didn't happen so much. I've driven a Hilux Conquest before. It doesn't have a bash plate nor snorkel but otherwise it's the same truck. It's not bad at all. It just isn't the almighty indestructible ISIS transporter that it used to be. In the end, even the Ranger Wildtrak severely outperforms the Hilux. All the latter has going for it is brand loyalty. The Ranger Raptor is absolutely a league above all of them, and actually has a better payload than the Rugged X (750kg RR vs. 738kg HRX). Oh, and about the price, I live in the Philippines, so we got the Ranger Raptor for an equivalent AUD54300. You guys with your taxes got it rough. If you were patient enough to read this, congrats, we both wasted time lol. I just can't fathom how a driver can waste so much potential with all the best stock equipment in the midsize truck category.

I read the comments and some people having a mistake about Ford Ranger Raptor and Ford F-150 Raptor They both are different truck. Ford Ranger Raptor Engine Turbocharged 2.0-Liter Four-Cylinder Diesel 210HP. Ford F-150 Raptor twin-turbocharged high-output 3.5L EcoBoost V6 450HP

Just need to point out that the Rangers traction control disengages as soon as the 4x4 Low is engaged. Also the Raptor there looked like it had ALOT more air in the tyres and was being driven ALOT slower. Not a very good comparison.

@JAStrong20

5 жыл бұрын

Hilux disengages when in low aswell just a FYI. They also said tyres were at 18 psi, would assume they set them both low?

@thatsgangsta2450

5 жыл бұрын

Martin Judd it was being driven slower because it had less traction. Hilux is a lot more capable immediately from factory where as raptors aren’t AS capable but still okay, especially if you have money to get the right modifications

@silknfeathers

5 жыл бұрын

Not true. The Ranger (2016 onwards) maintains traction control when in low AND when rear locked. The Toyota doesn't. Big difference when it gets a little harder than this, the Rugged X simply can't keep up. Mind you, stick a front locker on the Rugged X and... (Then all you need to worry about is the dodgy DPF!);-)

@silknfeathers

5 жыл бұрын

@@thatsgangsta2450 No, get out and try in the real world.

It defended upon da driver's style

Feel like im watching an old Japanese movie with the audio out! Great video tho love the both jeeps

Esa ranger raptor es una bestia 💪

@nambrvan2096

4 жыл бұрын

😂

Can you guys test the New RAptor please! without activating lockers to see traction control at work in rock mode ;)

By the looks of it Hilux and GTR are shared the same thing "it's like walking in the park"

rapter out of the box is the best goin around!

I love hiluX❤️❤️👍👍

@rayjunsay2840

3 жыл бұрын

Try driving both and then u decide

so.. simplicity much better than complex hi-tech.

So the raptor has 33” bfg tires and a fox lift, and it’s worse than the on road tires on the stock hilux. Plus the rugged x is almost $20;000 cheaper. No brainer decision

@jessejohnson1557

5 жыл бұрын

Chief Wiggum everyone complains about the hilux “having a bumpy ride” but I truely think that the bumpy on road ride is due to its outstanding off road performance ! You can’t have the best of both worlds and so I think it’s all buyers preference! I personally own a hilux and yes it’s bumpy unloaded but once I have my tools loaded into the back which is almost every day for work it settles down quite nicely !

@millardkeyes5187

5 жыл бұрын

Yes especially if you are self employed writing everything off tax showing zero income you can always afford the latest gizmo and hot chicks.....

@PopEye2384

4 жыл бұрын

its a biased review....

@tupapisoyyo676

4 жыл бұрын

@@millardkeyes5187 huh?

@II_4_R_Z_II

4 жыл бұрын

Chief Wiggum the hilux has a poor ride quality fuxk that

For Me, Both are impressive, they are well engineered... but they are bit differ in a certain road condition... Raptor is extremely good fast in a plain straight rough road whereas, Hilux is good in a rough mountain because of a bigger .4 or .8 engine compare to raptor which is 2.0...

What is even more impressive is the cost- considering 1 Thai Baht is worth zip in AUD these vehicles are real money spinners (pun intended) as you can't lock the cost differential! Both Toyota and Ford followed by Mazda and Nissan make exorbitant profit more like a car and a half per vehicle sold.

I do give Fords credit for towing capability. Toyota...not sure but at least offroad looks fun

@ianstape7970

5 жыл бұрын

yanglue611 couldn’t tow an empty 6x4 trailer

@yanglue611

5 жыл бұрын

@@ianstape7970 Really?! I didn't know that.

@unknown5827

4 жыл бұрын

Can't tow shit on a lux

@elijahghanbarnezad9909

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve got that hilux rugged rig, can tow my 8 metre boat easy, don’t know what half these people are on

@FoLlOwThEwHiTeRaBbIt1

3 жыл бұрын

@@unknown5827 Haha have a go at it, We use them at work for everything! We tow massive machines, tools trailers, and we towed my bosses 8m boat and big caravan with out a problem! The new 2021 models are great. 👍🏽

I own hilux revo and I could'nt pick better😎

@hotrod7603

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

Walk in the park for the hilux

@Marauder252

3 жыл бұрын

It's like a tractor. Also it will break if you jump it hard.

@wozzgalaxy

3 жыл бұрын

@D_No with dpf?

Why don’t they modify these. And take the to hard 4wd tracks and not the highway

That hilux did much better but it seemed the ford stade a bit more on the center of gravity

Raptor=looks, Hilux =everything else

What the heck is that high pitched whine from the raptor from 9:08?

@magnum3550

5 жыл бұрын

Hand brake is on to make the car look and sound worst than the Hilux

@Hazardbone

5 жыл бұрын

Piston rings failing 😂

@speterbilt

5 жыл бұрын

Its probably the TC slowing one wheel from spinning and its the brakes squealing

@yoku_ti23

3 жыл бұрын

At only 2.0 liter the engine needs higher revolution to achieve highest torque.. thus earlier demise.

The ford has a terrain management system that locks the spinning wheel after time therefore applying power to the wheel with most traction

@jamiemagdeleyns9152

Жыл бұрын

Toyota had that for way longer

Both car good machine

Les deux models sont en boîte automatique ?

@bravohotel

Ай бұрын

yes

Cool

Clearly the guy holding the camera is a Hilux lover, only had good comments foe the Hilux and pretty much nothing good for the raptor lol

@samtui7007

4 жыл бұрын

Ben Nisnoni because the hilux did that just fine mate , you don’t have to hate , common now

the Hi-lux is the best quality is above the rest we have 2 and will be buying a third one

@jericlamb2676

5 жыл бұрын

But diesel have a turbo how do you maintain it?

Which one will last longer? and also the one with the best resale value will be the winner.. drive safe😇

@agt155

4 жыл бұрын

New Hilux has bad rust problems. Chassis fall apart after 5 years.

@willcarvolth6171

4 жыл бұрын

@@agt155 They havent even been out 5 years... weve had our 2015 Hilux for 4 years and it pretty much lives on the beach and no rust at all...

@agt155

4 жыл бұрын

@@willcarvolth6171 Hilux generation VII 2006-2016. They are notorious rust buckets, made from cheap chinese steel. 750k recalled in the US and given extended corrosion warranties. My 2010 rusted out in 8 years Toyota didn't want to know. My neighbours was even worse. Get rid of yours quick!

@willcarvolth6171

4 жыл бұрын

agt155 your obviously not in australia... not a problem here

@samtui7007

4 жыл бұрын

agt155 Hilux is japan made , how can it have Chinese body you big con hater 😂😂😂

Hilux good good !!!

I love the RAPTOR also

Even though i didn't ride a Ford yet, looks and I like more the ford ranger

Now, you clearly couldn't blame the tires for this. The Toyota Hilux did better despite having disadvantages of those stock h/t tires and lack of advanced off road tech like the Ford's terrain selection system etc.

@beerbeforebreakfast

4 жыл бұрын

But it was dry so more rubber on the trail wouldn't hurt it. Actually might be an advantage. Trust me my LR3 on street tires is better on dry climbs than my locked f150 with mud tires.

Im surprised and happy to see people over seas love their Hilux as much as we love our Tacomas even when the competition has some nice flashy toys🤙🏽

I wouldn’t have either of them.

Hilux is like a Honda Ridgeline

Nice utes just a shame about the engines

Whats with the clunking suspension of the cummins hilux

@SLADE330

5 жыл бұрын

David Duthie Cummins? Where did you get that from?

@petermann9980

5 жыл бұрын

@@SLADE330 Oh leave him alone , he's in shock !

@kobus691

4 жыл бұрын

I was going to ask the same thing about the Raptor haha

Of course its easy to pass the offload tests. Even a suzuki jimny can easily traverse those obstacles. But the Raptor's test of durability against time and is yet to be known against the invisible Hiluxes.

@vermotebart761

5 жыл бұрын

For an invisible truck, it isn’t hard to spot ;)

@aroundmeph1145

5 жыл бұрын

@Gary97204 lol no

Man nothing beats a good ranger and also the hilux sounds like a semi truck the ranger is much more silent

@FatboyAussie

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing beats a ranger. Except a Hilux