Ford Falcon XR8 2015 v Holden Commodore SS-V Redline | Drive.com.au

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For the first time in years, Ford has a genuine rival to Holden's go-fast Commodore. Is it up to the test? Read Review: www.drive.com.au/new-car-compa...

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  • @bigozimak
    @bigozimak6 жыл бұрын

    Did someone say supercharged V8. You see, just 3 years later we already miss these cars. Try getting a fully loaded V8 (supercharged or not) for around 55 grand today in Australia!

  • @GreendragonDMX
    @GreendragonDMX9 жыл бұрын

    im not hating againts the Holden its a very good all rounder my issue is the review, i honestly dont see how this review came out the way it did..yes its not the 1970s anymore but at the end of the day..if your buying a SS for its technology...your buying the wrong car..go buy a Calais the SS and XR8 are targeted to the Performance segment...somthing the XR8 has more of over the SS, its got a GT tuned chassis, the same brakes as the SS, both are five star saftey, so they are both as safe as each other which makes that aspect of the review completely void Ford Sync has already been proven to be a better UI then Holdens, i agree the interior is more up market with better fit and finish then the XR8, i just cannot understand how a performance car built for the performance car segment that ticks all the boxes in what it was built to do lost because one car has slightly more tech kit in it, its so far backwards its not funny i remember in 2003 when the BA and VY were brand new cars, VY SS vs BA XR8, BA XR8, had a better interior, better build quality, better suspension, better IRS, had more standard equipment, scored better in crash testing but because it was slower it lost...on the basis that a performance car should be fast not a all-rounder like it was

  • @TransitionLevel110

    @TransitionLevel110

    8 жыл бұрын

    Completely agree mate, the SS is a good all rounder family car, but the XR8 is a hands-down muscle car. This review stinks worse than Margaret Thatcher's minge!

  • @captainkaos754

    @captainkaos754

    6 жыл бұрын

    The xr8 muscle car ba ha ha ah fuck of, they’re an ugly pile of shit and fast forward to the present day Nobody’s driving them or wasting they’re money on ford shit it all ls chev. Ford built shit rite to the end while all the fan boys were crying out give us a car to remember they sent an fg Ute down the line because they didn’t give a fuck about cars. Holden built the w1 the most powerful car ever sent down the line with the biggest brakes and a dry sump system 470 plus kw vs the useless fg dog box.

  • @manofwar577

    @manofwar577

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@captainkaos754 Well, yes, I am actually looking at an fg x, why?, cos they are so fucking cheap they are becoming worth it!, little above 40k in manual, thats brilliant, but when i put it on any circuit, it would be embarassing.

  • @garethcurtis7545

    @garethcurtis7545

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@captainkaos754 what planet do you live on? Wana talk about oil burning shit boxes talk about VT/X/Y/Z/E you're a dreamer. No one drives BAs? Or are you embarrassed a 15 year old six cylinder flogs your shitbox opel with a chev crate motor in it? Enjoy your boat like understeer, mind you people who comment like you usually can't afford either. Also ironic how on a dyno a 6 cylinder 4 litre and a 5.0 v8 spanks ya craphouse opel. Plastic pile of shit.

  • @jackhewett3790
    @jackhewett37909 жыл бұрын

    I'm a Holden boy till the day I die! But I can admit that Fords and Holdens both need to get along and find a common enemy manufacturer!

  • @CoziHasSauce

    @CoziHasSauce

    9 жыл бұрын

    Yes mate.

  • @carzillazone

    @carzillazone

    9 жыл бұрын

    Spot on. Hope everyone can make positive comments like u do, rather than taking shit against another.

  • @Wilhelm22

    @Wilhelm22

    7 жыл бұрын

    Well it's 2017 and the enemy at the gates is Kia, and the over-hyped, "wish I was German", Stinger.

  • @snouttrotters
    @snouttrotters8 жыл бұрын

    At the end of the day muscle cars throughout the world are gauged by one thing and that is the stop watch, Chalk up one for the Blue Oval

  • @DPCB01
    @DPCB019 жыл бұрын

    Ford- Performance and sound Holden- Interior, technology and aesthetics

  • @DPCB01

    @DPCB01

    7 жыл бұрын

    ***** Can't disagree with that.

  • @CrispyHulk1

    @CrispyHulk1

    6 жыл бұрын

    For someone like me coming from a NA 4 cylinder sedan, the power and sound of the Commodore is great so it wins hands down

  • @captainkaos754

    @captainkaos754

    6 жыл бұрын

    The fords a fukin outdated badly built ugly pile of shit. Nobody in there rite mind brought one because the v8 coyote was as useless as the boss boat anchors. The commodore will be a collector carvyhe fodr will be used and abused

  • @Chabobox1

    @Chabobox1

    4 жыл бұрын

    For me I'd have to go for the Falcon, I like it's looks more, it's sounds and I know this is an extremely unpopular opinion but I actually kinda like the interior and how it's basic and there isn't too many features.

  • @lukaspallerz5926

    @lukaspallerz5926

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Chabobox1 agreed 👍

  • @phaser1659
    @phaser16598 жыл бұрын

    yeah. I want a car with acceleration and noise. I dont give a shit about asthetics or safety lol. I want pure muscle car!! sorry commodre. XR8. I JUST WANT ONE!

  • @phaser1659

    @phaser1659

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Omar Hashirama you want a real chevy? Corvette all day long. Not some imitation that assholes fix a chevy badge to. What's wrong with keeping the Holden badge on?

  • @potaka79
    @potaka798 жыл бұрын

    So the commodore wins because I can find the aircon buttons?. I'd rather have a car with the motor that has the numbers under the hood and can do the job when I'm at lights ready to race. Sounds like you guys had your minds made up before you did this review anyway.

  • @potaka79

    @potaka79

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Matt R C Lets be honest every other media outlet that did the same comparison gave the win to the XR8 but I believe you already know this. On your bike.....Oops just seen your avatar looks like you already are.....#lol

  • @mattyoz0

    @mattyoz0

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Potaka79 motor mag just picked the ss in this months test. that's right, i ride. both cars are as slow as a long wet weekend to me.

  • @potaka79

    @potaka79

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Matt R C Oh you mean the NEW VFmkii which is not the car in this comparison. Your starting to look more & more like the idiot my friend.

  • @potaka79

    @potaka79

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Matt R C I could reference other media outlets where the Commodore lost but I can see that would clearly be a waste of my time. Even when presented with evidence you'd still not believe. This is the first comparison I've seen between the FGX - XR8 & the VF SS & the falcon loosing.....but hey that's paid advertisements are for.

  • @MrVice123456

    @MrVice123456

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Potaka79 Are you serious? Ford has spent sweet fuck all on the interior, it feels like you're in a taxi. I'll take the ss vf 2 with the ls3 over the xr8 any day!

  • @johnktmalexiou
    @johnktmalexiou9 жыл бұрын

    I'll take the Supercharged one thanks ! Why pay the same for a N/A one ??

  • @johnktmalexiou

    @johnktmalexiou

    9 жыл бұрын

    Xr8 $54,990 , Auto bit more. SS definitley handles better & nicer interior , but the blower is what i like. will look at one in 2017 when they are around $25K :)

  • @coopsnz1

    @coopsnz1

    9 жыл бұрын

    25k ! Haha . Hmmm 2 years they will be 40 k used

  • @CallMeMrX

    @CallMeMrX

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@johnktmalexiou Well it's 2021 now and they are all still over 50k..

  • @CallMeMrX

    @CallMeMrX

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@coopsnz1 Wrong, lol.

  • @billybodybuilder

    @billybodybuilder

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CallMeMrX Asking price maybe , not getting it tho .. have seen so many for sale months back for stupid prices ,, they still available..

  • @mclongkock6678
    @mclongkock66786 жыл бұрын

    So road noises can enter the ford cabin but not its exhaust note?? Im lost.

  • @Cliffy1616
    @Cliffy16168 жыл бұрын

    Ok so I just watched the Calais vs the g6eturbo before and the Calais was apparently the better choice because it was the better luxury car and they didn't do a performance test which was sketchy because they do both fall into the luxury /Performance category. But now we get to the Performance based models the Xr8 and SSV redline and they recommend the SSV as the better Performance car. (even though it can't match the Xr8 for power). Because it's quieter more comfortable and the interior tech is a bit better mmmkay seems legit.

  • @Beer_Dad1975

    @Beer_Dad1975

    8 жыл бұрын

    Depends on what you want I guess - if you want a more engaging drive, the Ford, if you want to be more coseted sitting in traffic, the Holden. Not sure how they got such a terrible 0-100 time with the XR8 - my G6E-t is putting out a little less power but will easily do mid 4's all day every day on sticky tyres.

  • @nafism6969
    @nafism69698 жыл бұрын

    whats the point in a 5.0l v8 versus a 6.0 l v8?? di litres make any difference?

  • @gbpocketv
    @gbpocketv9 жыл бұрын

    This is probably unrelated, but why is everyone swearing at each other because they have different opinions on which car they would choose, while innocent people are getting killed around the world? Opinions are opinions, IMO.

  • @lukaspallerz5926
    @lukaspallerz59264 жыл бұрын

    Wow just reading thru pretty much all the comments. Has to be said that ford seems to be shitting all over holden and is the preferred choice. Go Ford!

  • @JPate33
    @JPate339 жыл бұрын

    a let down in technology? it only has the new sync2 system....... what else does an aussie muscle car need?

  • @cjdacka

    @cjdacka

    9 жыл бұрын

    James Pate Sync 2 is shit haha.

  • @JPate33

    @JPate33

    9 жыл бұрын

    cjdacka you know 1st hand? Glad you could back your statement up with facts

  • @cjdacka

    @cjdacka

    9 жыл бұрын

    James Pate yes. Its very old software and Sync 3 has already been released and is bases on Blackberry software.

  • @JPate33

    @JPate33

    9 жыл бұрын

    Oh well. It does just about everything you need for a car. I wouldn't complain if i had one.

  • @cjdacka

    @cjdacka

    9 жыл бұрын

    James Pate I'll stick to MyLink thanks

  • @RypienGT
    @RypienGT7 жыл бұрын

    im neither a ford or holden man, but this video is full of the presenter contradicting himself. Really poor review and not up to scratch.

  • @ReaLzEdits
    @ReaLzEdits9 жыл бұрын

    I hate ford, but I have to give them props for chucking a performance v8 into their car. It may piss off a few gt owners what with the better looks and lower price tag. But in term it really does make me appreciate them a little bit more. You win this battle of the sedans.... but not the battle of the performance sedans :PPP

  • @lewisemptage9856
    @lewisemptage98566 жыл бұрын

    The ssv redline dosent have enough power for the size of the engine

  • @7071t6
    @7071t67 жыл бұрын

    260KW V's 335KW & you have only 0.5 seconds difference LOL :) My 2015 Redline does 100KM in just under 5's & its only got a KN Factory air filter & DPE rear mufflers. :) Also look at the pricing for both the cars with about the same amount of KMS ?

  • @clamramm3r370
    @clamramm3r3708 жыл бұрын

    Y are we still competing with these cars there going to go in2017 lets just be greatful while there hear great vid though

  • @caradvice

    @caradvice

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Joe Castagna Thanks Joe

  • @oxygorjiax7722
    @oxygorjiax77229 жыл бұрын

    And if both had continued we would have got a 5.8l supercharged GTHO

  • @captainkaos754

    @captainkaos754

    6 жыл бұрын

    And the imaginary 5.8 gtho would’ve been just as big a shitbox as the fabled xy with its shit brakes and ugly styling.

  • @audiwankenobi361
    @audiwankenobi3617 жыл бұрын

    so that XR8 is a Jaguar?

  • @markturrant2656
    @markturrant26569 жыл бұрын

    Whatever.. the SS doesn't even come close to the XR8. You would never buy a SS in an auto, their rubbish slush boxes and still change up and down like old HQ Holden!

  • @mills3375

    @mills3375

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mark Turrant I would rather a xr8 too and I am a ford fan but a lot of people want an auto ss. The ss is used as a daily driver and most buyers aren’t taking their ss to the track so an auto is easier to live with even though I would take a manual over an auto ss

  • @captainkaos754

    @captainkaos754

    6 жыл бұрын

    The xr8 is an ugly fukin dog. Shit styling outdated and didn’t even have an export market ya fuckwit

  • @lukesm5747

    @lukesm5747

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@captainkaos754 🤡🤡🤡

  • @phoenix20401
    @phoenix204014 жыл бұрын

    intuitive transmission? seriously? the most intuitive transmission is a manual, it gives you far better control and you are the one who chooses when to shift up or down!

  • @brandonli3309
    @brandonli33099 жыл бұрын

    That ssv exhaust note is weak sauce.

  • @elmin2323
    @elmin23238 жыл бұрын

    Falcons for the win but has the WORRST cockpit! So outdated big buttons on the steering wheel and sych 2! Is it going to get sych 3 and also blind spot and active cruise?

  • @bigozimak
    @bigozimak6 жыл бұрын

    The punter wants a performance sedan and this bloke picks, the much slower car! WTF

  • @brentonmckinnell4781

    @brentonmckinnell4781

    4 жыл бұрын

    The redline is actually slightly quicker around a track. Far better chassis balance on the VF.

  • @nodad8763
    @nodad87639 жыл бұрын

    I'm a Aussie car guy but I think in about 4 years time I'm not really going to give a shit about either of these cars so Ford Mustang GT for the win.

  • @Chabobox1

    @Chabobox1

    4 жыл бұрын

    I read this 4 years later...

  • @nhfalcon
    @nhfalcon9 жыл бұрын

    Lol...these are Muscle cars. That Holden thinks 260 kws in 2015 is ok is hilarious. Fail. Supercharged AUSSIE Falcon for the win. The commadore is 70% imported parts anyway. Plus it's crate engines. Even Fords SC5.0 gets 70% new parts when it gets here. Aussie muscle in an Aussie car. FORD FALCON. If I wanted trinkets I'd buy a merc.

  • @Mr500RWHP

    @Mr500RWHP

    9 жыл бұрын

    nhfalcon since when does the commodore have only 30% local content? I thought it was double that. Got any links to prove your outrageous claims or are you just trolling?

  • @benparker3338

    @benparker3338

    9 жыл бұрын

    Mr500RWHP it was on the news a few months the ford territory had the most aussie content at 80% followed by the falcon. Commodore v8 had less than a camry

  • @Mr500RWHP

    @Mr500RWHP

    9 жыл бұрын

    Ben Parker No you're wrong it is alot more than 30%, like I said about 60%

  • @matthewfyfe8422

    @matthewfyfe8422

    9 жыл бұрын

    ***** lol fuck off you loser the ss has nothing on the falcon stop putting the XR8 down just because they made a better overall car. the XR8 is capable of sub 5 second 0-100 times (check motoring.com.au) and a 0-100 time of the ss being 6.4 seconds! lol an 09 focus rs has a better 0-100 time of 5.9 seconds. what a disappointment even with an engine made and designed by Chevrolet. holden manage to fuck up :D i quite like ls motors for reference but what a failure holden is. www.motoring.com.au/reviews/2015/large-passenger/ford/commodore/ford-falcon-xr8-v-holden-commodore-ss-v-series-redline-2015-comparison-48430

  • @matthewfyfe8422

    @matthewfyfe8422

    9 жыл бұрын

    LOL that crapadore put out 200kw at the wheels! that same engine without the supercharger gross over 300kw without it.. how is it built better? justify your argument. i have many reasons to prove the ss crapadore is inferior to the XR8. there's a tuning place in au that funes an f6/xr6t to 1000hp and you can drive it as a daily. poor misguided person you must be. i dont see how you can call a bunch of Australian engineers not as good as Chinese and gm engineers... gm has always had alot more recalls than ford

  • @mitchwhittaker8083
    @mitchwhittaker80836 жыл бұрын

    Did you mention the exterior?? I didn't find it in comparison. The xr8 murders the ssv redline in performance and exterior and tbh I don't think the interior in the xr8 is that bad. Safety ratings are both 5 star. At the end of the day people have there own opinion. Same price for both so if you're a holden fanboy buy the holden if you're a ford fanboy get the ford. Your money your choice be happy with your choice.

  • @michaelhorkins8107

    @michaelhorkins8107

    4 ай бұрын

    U kidding interior is same as old ba

  • @electricdiesel1993
    @electricdiesel1993 Жыл бұрын

    Falcon XR8 coupe and Monaro SS coupe should be interesting than sport sedans.

  • @matthewfyfe8422
    @matthewfyfe84228 жыл бұрын

    hahaha they were so in love with their 260kw commodore... claimed a quicker jump? essentially the same time here... Here it accelerates faster to all speeds.. www.motoring.com.au/ford-falcon-xr8-v-holden-commodore-ss-v-series-redline-2015-comparison-48430/ They talked all about the Commodores gearbox tech and nothing about the Falcon? The ZF boxes have been adapting to driver styles since the BA/BF? They claimed the XR8 was Agile through corners? It sits flatter you can throw it in the corner and expect it to do what you want? isnt that agility? The interior game? Well that's an opinionated aspect which you can't say one is better than the other.. i think the Holden interior looks big and ugly especially those nobs under the display... but that's my opinion. He didnt explain at all as to how the SS-V was more "refined"?? How is the Holden easier to live with? He stated it was too quiet?- isnt that not making enough sound)-wrong sound? 1978? Implying we dont enjoy the nice sound of a V8? So why does it take the cake? The XR8 pack 75kw and 50nm over the SS-V? Comes with Widers Wheels and Tyres? Is agile? Faster in a straight line? Makes better noise? I feel like an agile car i feel in control with would be a far nicer car to live with.. What a load of shit.

  • @yungdopedealer2765

    @yungdopedealer2765

    8 жыл бұрын

    Drive.com.au, au stands for Australia, Holden is made in Australia. This review is a bit biased :)

  • @kingofcarolina42
    @kingofcarolina427 жыл бұрын

    man im late so ford packed a 5 liter superchargered v8 in a contour/Taurus hybrid wow!

  • @smartey2612

    @smartey2612

    6 жыл бұрын

    kingofcarolina42 The Falcon name plate has been around longer then whatever 4 door American Ford there has been.

  • @boosts14
    @boosts147 жыл бұрын

    If you want to throw a couple grand of basic mods and a tune the fords performance exceeds even further. You'll have a 300rwkw 12 second commy up against a 400rwkw+ 10second capable falcon.

  • @IanKen
    @IanKen9 жыл бұрын

    Great review.

  • @SkullFullOfMaggotz
    @SkullFullOfMaggotz9 жыл бұрын

    Once again Ford lets us down in the interior and technology department.

  • @coopsnz1

    @coopsnz1

    8 жыл бұрын

    You want better interior , pay 70 k for the xr8 then .

  • @Chabobox1

    @Chabobox1

    4 жыл бұрын

    They didn't have the budget.

  • @lewisemptage5924
    @lewisemptage59243 жыл бұрын

    THAT BEAST GOT A 6 LITRE V8 WITH LESS THAN 350 HORSEPOWER MEANING ITLL DESTROY ANY M5 OR AMG IT SEES

  • @boss302frostyfordfan2
    @boss302frostyfordfan24 жыл бұрын

    260 kW the xr8 had that back in 2003😂😂😂

  • @queenslandballistics2987

    @queenslandballistics2987

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are quite right, can't deny that one obviously.

  • @SirDanga
    @SirDanga5 жыл бұрын

    So you’re telling me a supercharged 8 vs an NA 8 is fair...

  • @Cliffy1616

    @Cliffy1616

    4 жыл бұрын

    I mean at the time this was literally Fords base level V8, there wasn’t one lower that you could compare with the Holden, and they’re are the same price. So yeah not Fords fault Holden’s base 8 couldn’t keep up Supercharger or not, sounds more like a Holden Issue.

  • @Chabobox1

    @Chabobox1

    4 жыл бұрын

    They were the closest rivals at the time, Holden's fault for not making something that could compete with it as well performance wise.

  • @Humannn8ss8
    @Humannn8ss82 жыл бұрын

    Commodore went to the us

  • @oxygorjiax7722
    @oxygorjiax77229 жыл бұрын

    All of drives match up's give to to holden its bullshit you get endorsed by holden....... So why would you recommend anything else!

  • @oxygorjiax7722

    @oxygorjiax7722

    9 жыл бұрын

    ***** well ones an Australian car with an Australian engine. The other is a Vauxhall with a chevy engine. If you put a 6.0L supercharged Ford vs a 6.0L supercharged falcon the Ford would kill it. Infact just go back in time to 2002 get a TEor TS50 with a supercharger vs a new 6.0L chevy supercharger and the old windsor would kill it. Holden is nothing more than a name nothing Australian about it! Its not our fault that you don't get to make your engines they arrive in a crate from canada. For a 2015 model to be putting out 260kws from a 6.0L is sad the 2003 ba xr8 had 260 from a 5.4L

  • @carnut9193

    @carnut9193

    9 жыл бұрын

    The fools say this over and over whether it be to Wheels mag, Drive or any of the Aussie reviewers. Fact is the Commodore has a very well sorted chassis and interior. The Falcon is the best Ford Australia could do with the budget they had and to me it's not a bad effort. The only better thing about the Ford in reality is the stonking engine and ZF auto. Had manufacturing here not gone to shit I reckon we'd of soon seen an appearance of GM's current 8 speed auto as well as other engine options like the 200kw 2.0l turbo and the 320kw 3.6L twin turbo V6 all tucked under the body of the Holden.

  • @Studat
    @Studat6 жыл бұрын

    The Ford is a low tech bucket and the seating position is dreadful. Holden LS3 V8...no need for a blower😉

  • @01rma
    @01rma6 жыл бұрын

    just another daiwoo/ gm dog. -and all of the other top makes from Korea are the same.Ford are also the same with their garbage from uk and north america.I have always supported all great models no wonder who made a great non account type of model! god bless all of you guys!

  • @adzy43q20
    @adzy43q207 жыл бұрын

    honestly I reckon the V6 Aurion would munch the SS commodore in the long run . Aurions are so fast man they really are!!

  • @Lotus-S70

    @Lotus-S70

    11 ай бұрын

    they wouldnt lmao

  • @randallk2556

    @randallk2556

    10 ай бұрын

    Good for Uber

  • @blakecaruana3173
    @blakecaruana31739 жыл бұрын

    It's funny coz Hsv R8's make 340kw naturally aspirated and the ford xr8 makes 335 supercharged?

  • @carracer40

    @carracer40

    9 жыл бұрын

    The ford has been proven to be underrated from the factory

  • @coopsnz1

    @coopsnz1

    9 жыл бұрын

    Bigger engine means more power ... Loll

  • @ddmnn8769

    @ddmnn8769

    9 жыл бұрын

    Holden:6.2L engine Ford: 5L engine Dumbass

  • @BLAKEYBOII3

    @BLAKEYBOII3

    8 жыл бұрын

    How much you paying for that extra 5kw?

  • @Cliffy1616

    @Cliffy1616

    8 жыл бұрын

    True but isn't the Xr8 fords entry level V8 unlike the R8

  • @callumfreebairn8082
    @callumfreebairn808219 күн бұрын

    the falcon is too expensive, possibly too expensive to own

  • @CrispyHulk1
    @CrispyHulk14 жыл бұрын

    The entertainment panel in the Ford Falcon is the ugliest in the car industry.

  • @7071t6
    @7071t65 жыл бұрын

    Ford with 75KW more, yet only has a 0 to 100 with 5.2, look at the series tow redline with the 6.2lt quicker again, yet again leass KW by about 30 and the holden wins again all round everything, like i have mentioned before the FORD is just a FG with new front and new rear end looks but the running gear is all FPV, basic's and yet every single FG owner i know had to have the diff fixed before the first 15K service, WTF ? Go holden full stop. :)

  • @stevethedonful
    @stevethedonful8 жыл бұрын

    The Falcon may be faster, but looks shit...

  • @jameslandon4126

    @jameslandon4126

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Steve Q You and your little thumbs up tards sure have shitty taste. That Holden looks boring and generic compared to the Ford. GM is ugly as always.

  • @15sixmedia

    @15sixmedia

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Jim Garrison Are you fucking kidding? You want to talk boring and generic? Let's talk the Falcon's interior. Let's talk about how the design team couldn't be fucked creating something new and different for their swansong vehicle. Let's also talk about the fact that they thought it would be a fucking good idea to try and drag on the old, tired FG interior. That shit looks like the taxi it's always destined to be. That my friend, is what boring and generic looks like. Carrying over the interior to this vehicle would have been like the VF keeping the VE dash. Thoroughly outdated and tired.

  • @smartey2612

    @smartey2612

    6 жыл бұрын

    Steve Q jeez you’ve haven’t been to spec savers at all have you, XR8 looks like a sporty car sporty grill sporty aero design sharp looking wheels and a beautiful body shape with nice red plain brakes that make it look like an undercover Jaguar. ss average. Interior sports car like on ss only point I’ll give you.

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