Ford Crown Vic & P71/P7B instrument cluster removal and restore

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Have a dull, dingy, scratched up instrument cluster/speedometer pod? In this video I show you how to remove it, take it apart, polish it up, and reinstall it. This video is also a set up for some future videos including how to re-solder the connections on the back to fix the dim/flickering/out odometer problem that plagues so many 2006-2011 Ford Crown Victorias and for installing a double DIN stereo with it off the vehicle.
I also show you how to adjust your PRND21 indicator to get it lined up.
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0:00 2008 Ford Crown Victoria police interceptor P71
0:15 disconnect battery ground cable
0:27 trim just pulls off
0:46 eight total bolts 7mm size
1:26 remove headlight switch
1:57 wrestling the trim around the steering wheel
2:30 now you can clean your air ducts
2:51 clean the trim piece
3:59 removing the cluster - 7mmm bolts
4:23 removing the cover around the steering column
5:33 cable that controls the shift indicator
6:20 remove the cable and 7/32" bolt
6:46 removing the electrical connector from instrument cluster
7:16 cleaning the clear plastic face
8:39 seeing the fastest Crown Vic ever made
8:49 polish the clear plastic lens
11:24 lens is now looking clear
12:40 remember it is sensitive to some products
13:44 put the lens back on
14:47 separating the halves of the cluster if needed
15:51 not what I expected to find
16:03 installation is the reverse of removal
16:33 remember the electrical connector is not "dummy proof" make sure it's tight
17:12 gear indicator attachment
17:52 replace the bolts
18:16 turn the adjuster to line up gear indicator
18:39 steering wheel trim re-installation
19:59 reinstalling the dash trim
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  • @440doug
    @440doug5 жыл бұрын

    I've said it before.......Beside the excellent info provided in your videos, your manner of speaking makes it seem like I'm there with you doing the job. Each viewer feels like it's a visit to a friend's house, rather than a teacher-student thing. Keep 'em coming WJ!

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much.

  • @DavidShort-ov5vb

    @DavidShort-ov5vb

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WJHandyDad get to the subject. Don’t need the other stuff.

  • @lilreasontv1454

    @lilreasontv1454

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DavidShort-ov5vb Mlnm.

  • @gkk2001
    @gkk20015 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate your videos on CVPI repair and enhancements. You are blazing a trail for many. Your slow methodical approach (lots of patience) is also great. 👍👍👍

  • @freeshavacado3959
    @freeshavacado39595 жыл бұрын

    Fellow Texan here again. Good job sir. I've pulled my trim, cluster etc out before and have never cleaned inside of it. Definitely doing this soon. Keep up the good work and great tips.

  • @kmorton54
    @kmorton544 жыл бұрын

    Your how to videos are the best. You have helped me with fixing things on my 2007 CVPI. I can't thank you enough!

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    4 жыл бұрын

    glad you are enjoying them... it's for people like you that I make these videos and people like you motivate me to make more

  • @guadalupeochoa2255
    @guadalupeochoa2255 Жыл бұрын

    I’m at the junk yard & this video was extremely helpful:)

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    Жыл бұрын

    glad it helped!

  • @relaxingrealsounds2164
    @relaxingrealsounds21644 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for the care and details!

  • @aaronp4291
    @aaronp429110 ай бұрын

    Those bolts on the bottom of the column and the one that holds the indicator cable retainer are 5.5 mm. Ford used all metric bolts in assembling these vehicles as they were built in Canada. I've had to go through this with my 08 P71 while changing out the dashboard itself.

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    10 ай бұрын

    yeah, I think I figured out they were metric and 5.5mm once I got a fancier set of sockets that included 5.5mm. Crazy to think they could have used 5mm or 6mm but somehow chose 5.5mm

  • @andrewfox1539
    @andrewfox15394 жыл бұрын

    Videos great I’m from uk have black white crown vic helps me a lot many thanks

  • @dushooter
    @dushooter5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for doing this. I gotta pull my cluster for repair. Dim display.

  • @JDMHaze
    @JDMHaze4 жыл бұрын

    just refreshed my gauges in my RX300

  • @alamedacustomholsters
    @alamedacustomholsters5 жыл бұрын

    Great info.👍

  • @MrRockydee07
    @MrRockydee073 жыл бұрын

    Great video , I want to change my dash instrument lights to led bulbs are them the four white pieces in the back. . Thanks

  • @ShaqBrown2x
    @ShaqBrown2x4 жыл бұрын

    GREAT VIDEO BRO

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    4 жыл бұрын

    thank you

  • @chrisglory5695
    @chrisglory56955 жыл бұрын

    I have a tech question I have a 2006 CVPI and whenever I go over 60mph hard soft medium driving the wrench light kicks on and puts up in limp mode now I’ve replaced the throttle body and the electronic pedal and it still does it but driving under 60 nothing happens drives like normal only other thing is I have a airbag code 19 and 5 beeps aka drivers side and a P0581 Cruise multi-function A circuit High would that cause it to do that and put the car in limp mode every time? That should just be the clock spring though. I had a theory maybe rear ABS wheel speed sensors I replaced them and still does it. And my brake and abs lamps are lit which is most likely the ABS control module would that throw it into limp mode? I’m lost

  • @americancopcar
    @americancopcar5 жыл бұрын

    Really good video, however it looks like you only cleaned the cluster and surround. What if any of the bulbs are out or connectors are corroded?

  • @kenilousjackson9488
    @kenilousjackson94882 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @dnasty981
    @dnasty981 Жыл бұрын

    I never saw how to restore the instrument cluster. I saw how to polish the plastic cover on the instrument cluster.

  • @hullinger
    @hullinger5 жыл бұрын

    Hey man, that was really good AND really timely too. I want to due the same with my cluster as well as inspect the solder points for my dim odometer. Oh, did you mess up the speedometer calibration when you spun the needle? Curious if it snaps back into correct position when it's powered up again or if you have to reposition it during reassembly. -Chris

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    5 жыл бұрын

    I made the mistake of totally disassembling mine when I did the soldering. In my solder video I'll show how to solder without disassembling so it shouldn't affect the gauges. But right now my speedo is showing about 2mph faster than I'm going, the tach is about 200rpm too slow, and the fuel gauge is just slightly high... and yes I've done the factory test thing and it didn't reset them, so I'm gonna have to pull the needles again or just live with it.

  • @SKATETOSLAYER
    @SKATETOSLAYER Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video Handy, cluster hasn't been telling me my speed or rpms lately, both stay on 0. lights all work though, but it throws just about every dash light when it isn't functioning properly. It does work every once in a while too and no warning lights or engine codes are on when it is functioning. oddly enough I can't use my OBD2 Scanner when the dash cluster isn't working properly. It will say bad connection. Kind of makes me want to just plug in my other PCM/ECU or whatever its called and see how that goes first.

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    Жыл бұрын

    thank you for the kind words and good luck on fixing your issue

  • @bilalqureshi8010
    @bilalqureshi80104 жыл бұрын

    Weri good sir tnx

  • @marcioepj
    @marcioepj3 жыл бұрын

    WJ, just to confirm in the 2011 cvpi the backlight (green) on the dashboard goes with the same 194bulb that goes into the older cpis, right? Mine are so weak that I was thinking of replacing them by LED ones. I did this to the AC panel and looks amazing

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    3 жыл бұрын

    no, the newer (2006-up?) don't have regular bulbs, they have little LED's soldered in. A much more major job than on the old ones that changed out just like the climate controls

  • @kmorton54
    @kmorton545 жыл бұрын

    How much would a replacement lens cost to replace rather than polishing the original one 🤔

  • @aliahsan6020
    @aliahsan60205 жыл бұрын

    Yo I had a question wheres the video on soldering the cluster so it stops flickering I really need to know and it will really help me if you can send me some pictures where you soldered your points or if there is a video I have a LX Crown vic is it the same soldering points?

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    5 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/kYauts-jdJifmqQ.html

  • @crsuperman1
    @crsuperman15 жыл бұрын

    I would have to take mine one step further and pop the gauges separate from the circuit board so I can re solder the LED display. Mine has the blackout mode display. Meaning you only get to see your mileage when it's 40 degrees below zero in the middle of winter or a hundred and twenty in the middle of summer. The soldered joints get bad on this display across the brand.

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's actually the reason I removed it... I did re-solder, that's coming up in another video. I just feared that this video was already getting "too long" even with all the editing I did (I had several hours of raw footage!)

  • @crsuperman1

    @crsuperman1

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@WJHandyDad I can't wait to see how you did it!!!!! I would love to see how many miles I have put on my vic since last JAN-Feb 2018, the last time it was so cold that the LEDs were visible. In Iowa, finding extreme cold in the winter is not that hard.. -20 or colder and the dash odometer is bright as can be.

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    5 жыл бұрын

    spoiler alert - you don't have to do any real disassembly to fix the soldering... I did too much disassembly on mine. But the soldering process is actually very easy once you remove the pod like I did in this video.

  • @DocM.
    @DocM.2 жыл бұрын

    2011 CVPI P7B: All the gauges work, gauge back lighting works, and warning lights work, but only the digital odometer doesnt work. I can't see miles anymore, what's wrong? I pulled every fuse and are all good. Please help!

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    2 жыл бұрын

    it's solder joint failures or possibly resistor failures. But hopefully just solder

  • @bluesharp59
    @bluesharp595 жыл бұрын

    Thumbs Up !

  • @Chad_P7B
    @Chad_P7B4 жыл бұрын

    Any idea if there’s a bulb for the headlight switch? I’ve seen others with theirs that light up too. Awesome tutorials! I’ve already replaced the bulbs behind the climate control panel thanks to one of your newer videos.

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    4 жыл бұрын

    there is a bulb, I don't have the part number off hand, but probably also a workaround could be done if you're comfortable with soldering

  • @Chad_P7B

    @Chad_P7B

    4 жыл бұрын

    WJ Handy Dad After I posted that comment I found it, it was pretty burnt and even burnt the tube it seats in. I went out to various stores and ended up at our local radio shack and they had that type of bulb but some dude from out of town urgently bout their entire stock. Then they resorted to fabricating one by using another kit in store and as it turns out it worked! Now I just gotta see how well it works at night.

  • @NorthKing1
    @NorthKing17 ай бұрын

    Would it be possible for you to make a video on how to just remove/pop the headlight switch out without removing the dashboard?

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    7 ай бұрын

    you can see at 1:26 how it connects. Looks like (I'm working from memory) a plastic pry tool on the right side of the switch will do it. If I get time I'll film it though.

  • @NorthKing1

    @NorthKing1

    7 ай бұрын

    @@WJHandyDad I appreciate it. 🙏

  • @sknapp19911
    @sknapp199114 жыл бұрын

    How similar is this to an 04 Crown Victoria? Has the older gauges without tachometer. Different steering wheel too. Same bolts and placements?

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    4 жыл бұрын

    it's been a long time since I removed one, but if memory is correct, they are very similar if not the same

  • @kenbettyroberts933

    @kenbettyroberts933

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@WJHandyDad

  • @DILLYBAR31869
    @DILLYBAR318693 жыл бұрын

    So if anyone knows, my mileage readout started getting darker, then you couldnt hardly see it at all, once in a while it would light up properly. Then a few weeks later intermittently the gauge cluster all together stopped working. Then yesterday it completely gave out, would this be related to the crappy soldering points, or more towards the connection to the wiring harness connection(s)?

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    3 жыл бұрын

    it's usually bad solder joints

  • @DILLYBAR31869

    @DILLYBAR31869

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WJHandyDad thanks!

  • @ChiragPooniwala
    @ChiragPooniwala3 жыл бұрын

    fastest vic... nice :-)

  • @kevincruz4045
    @kevincruz40454 жыл бұрын

    Would a CVPI 140 mph Gage Pod work in a 2007 Lincoln Town Car? That would be cool!!

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    4 жыл бұрын

    I do not know. So many of the things are interchangeable but some aren't.

  • @thedudejackietreehorn
    @thedudejackietreehornАй бұрын

    What was the brand of plastic cleaner/polisher that you used? That lens cleaned up really well!

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    Ай бұрын

    this is what I use nowadays, and there is a giveaway too... kzread.info/dash/bejne/f4itp7GwYqqanLg.html

  • @texaslawdawg1902
    @texaslawdawg19025 жыл бұрын

    WJ, AKA, the P71 God.

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    5 жыл бұрын

    thank you, you are too kind

  • @MrRockydee07
    @MrRockydee072 жыл бұрын

    Hi I've used your videos and they really help alot , Have a Q I need to remove the ashtray brakit do you know where mounting screws are I need to redo some wiring under the dashboard.

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've only had to mess with it one time... on my 2010 which came with the ash tray but no mounting bolts/screws or whatever it's supposed to have. I just remember it was a pain to get it mounted but I don't know the specs, sorry

  • @MrRockydee07

    @MrRockydee07

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@WJHandyDad OK

  • @MrRockydee07

    @MrRockydee07

    2 жыл бұрын

    Found out There are two 7mm screws holding it in at the rear bottom than it just fell out .....

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MrRockydee07 thank you for sharing

  • @hookyjo72
    @hookyjo724 жыл бұрын

    No need to unbolt Gear selector, take bezel off and gently unclip from cluster

  • @cesarnajera1211
    @cesarnajera12113 жыл бұрын

    Gracias gracias

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    3 жыл бұрын

    de nada / you're welcome

  • @tylerdouglas3789
    @tylerdouglas37895 жыл бұрын

    I have a question. Is it possible to switch a cluster from 04 crown Vic with an 06-11? The mileage meter is analog right now, can it be switched with digital?

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    5 жыл бұрын

    there is probably a way to do it if you have the money and the know how. I've never attempted. I actually prefer the old style odometers but I do like having a tach and idle hour meter

  • @edcleland9794
    @edcleland97942 жыл бұрын

    My instruments does not work, what would you recommend?

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    2 жыл бұрын

    depends if you are good with soldering circuit boards or not. Most of the time it's just bad solder joints that make these fail, but sometimes you have to replace component(s). If you aren't comfortable partially disassembling and soldering, you are better off sending it to some place like Circuit Board Medics.

  • @texaslawdawg1902
    @texaslawdawg19024 жыл бұрын

    Help WJ! I omitted marking the speedo dial prior to removal. Now I’m reading about 10-15 mph low. Doh!!!!! ....in my best Homer Simpson voice. Please enlighten me oh god of the CVPI world.

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    4 жыл бұрын

    don't know if I qualify as that but I'll try to help. When you remove it, turn it to the low point. Before reinstalling, look at my examples to see approximately where they should be (I can send photos of mine if you need). When reinstalling it, start higher than it's supposed to be, and when about halfway installed turn it down to the end point while pressing it down. You should get it within 1-2mph at that point. Before you completely reinstall the instrument cluster test it and see if you need to re-do it. Good luck and thanks for being a loyal subscriber!

  • @xxboss_rhynoxx2834
    @xxboss_rhynoxx28344 жыл бұрын

    Does this work with an 04 crown Vic interceptor? Just the removal of the cluster

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's been a while since I removed an older cluster, but I think it's nearly the same if not exact. The nice thing about the older clusters is easy replacement of bulbs

  • @xxboss_rhynoxx2834

    @xxboss_rhynoxx2834

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@WJHandyDad okay sweet but it's not the lights for some reason the cluster wont let the car shift out of 1st gear

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm not understanding that... how does the cluster not allow you to shift out of 1st gear

  • @Daniel-ge6mf
    @Daniel-ge6mf4 жыл бұрын

    I just bought a 2004 p71 and I want to change the instrument cluster to that one. Can it be done? Awesome video btw

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    4 жыл бұрын

    for the right amount of money just about anything can be done on a vehicle, but they are not "plug and play" interchangeable if that is what you are asking

  • @Daniel-ge6mf

    @Daniel-ge6mf

    4 жыл бұрын

    WJ Handy Dad dang I was hoping it would be but that’s okay. Thank you

  • @wkctheben1
    @wkctheben14 жыл бұрын

    Did I miss something? I saw lots of cleaning and buffing - but I didn’t see any bulb replacement or anything to fix the visibility of the appliance!

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    4 жыл бұрын

    you didn't miss anything, it was "restore" as in the appearance of the plastic, not meant as a full restoration of the electronics. Sorry for any confusion.

  • @C172Pilotdude
    @C172Pilotdude5 жыл бұрын

    Can anyone recommend a 4.6 engine rebuild kit ?

  • @dushooter

    @dushooter

    5 жыл бұрын

    Check Crownvic dot net for advice or adtr parts for panther platform upgrades.

  • @DocM.
    @DocM. Жыл бұрын

    *DAD PLEASE HELP!* 😂 How do I fix the tiny screw that adjusts the gauge needle (P RND21) The thread line that goes through is fine but the little screw is broke in half so when I spin the adjustment spool it sometimes adjusts the needle position but when I put the car in gear the needle can stop and won't show the correct gear. Mostly at D N and especially 2 and 1 How can I reconnect them? Super glue? Electrical tape?

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    Жыл бұрын

    sorry I don't know, haven't run across that issue. Hopefully one of the viewers has. Otherwise just grab one from a junkyard

  • @LP-MeAndMyShadow

    @LP-MeAndMyShadow

    Жыл бұрын

    Did you try super glue with baking powder? Then carve it with a razor to the original shape.

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LP-MeAndMyShadow that's another good way to do things. I've used that method on other fixes

  • @DocM.

    @DocM.

    Жыл бұрын

    @Me and My Shadow I did try super glue! Didn't think of the baking powder or razor blade thats a great idea. I don't know if it would have mattered, it wasn't a clean break in half, there was a good triangular chunk missing. And once the glue dried, even the slightest difference in shape made it impossible to function as a screw rotator, and would break again anyway. Even tried very intricate ways to reinforce it like using very thin soda can aluminum inside the screw tube. Ultimately I went to a junk yard to get a new part, less than $15. Although you may pay more or less depending on who is the cashier and your haggling. Depending on the year of car you can get this exact piece from a Mercury Grand Marquis, I can't remember now if I got mine from a Vic or a Grand Marquis now because I will warn you it can take some time especially if you break it trying to remove it from another car like I did! Little bastard is super fragile and it's remarkable how that tiny cheap plastic screw can hold up at all without breaking especially when you watch how much that cable and screw move EVERY time you put in gear and change gears!!! Remove dash covers around steering wheel, 8 screws, remove the steering wheel's jacket/cover, 3 screws, CAREFULLY take the red cable loop off its pin and CAREFULLY unscrew the smaller screw holding the plastic part to the gear shifter (that's the scariest part 😂 and re installing) then remove the 4 odometer screws so you can get in between the odometer layers/faces to pinch and ultimately remove the gear shift needle and cable assembly. I hope that made sense, it does to me since I spent so long and did it so many times! 😂

  • @mrmeatman9948
    @mrmeatman99485 жыл бұрын

    Did messing with the speedometer ruin that classic P71 "certified calibration"? 😂

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    5 жыл бұрын

    it did, but I got it back to where it and the OBD are reading the same speed

  • @09tahoeppv
    @09tahoeppv5 жыл бұрын

    First comment & dam u doing 140 lmfao great video of tho

  • @chris-p-Bacon836
    @chris-p-Bacon8363 жыл бұрын

    So you show everyone how to clean ?

  • @richardpotter6313
    @richardpotter6313 Жыл бұрын

    This a '78? 98? '08 ? Assume NOTTIN ! Good video tho. Thanks !

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    Жыл бұрын

    mine is an '08... should be identical for 2006-2011 (or even the "unicorn" 2012's that were shipped to the middle east)

  • @waylonwillmore296
    @waylonwillmore2964 жыл бұрын

    Not a good description in the title. for what you actually did in the video. I wasted a lot of time scrolling through this. Aside from that... you explained well and had good angles. You also didn't waste any time just blabbering for the sake of speaking. 3.5 out of 5.

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    4 жыл бұрын

    what do you think the title should be?

  • @dnasty981

    @dnasty981

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WJHandyDad Restoring a plastic cover on a dash instrument cluster.

  • @NGGPeter
    @NGGPeter5 жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure these are called instrument clusters

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    5 жыл бұрын

    thank you... sometimes I'm uploading these late at night, I'm tired, and I can't think of the right words

  • @NGGPeter

    @NGGPeter

    5 жыл бұрын

    Haha no problem, great vids as always WJ Handy Dad

  • @treykashflow6183
    @treykashflow61832 жыл бұрын

    W all the positive feedback I hate to be this guy. But goddam just to get to a bulb can't be that much

  • @johndrury4513
    @johndrury45132 жыл бұрын

    Way too. Much video about cleaning the plastic over the instrument cluster

  • @WJHandyDad

    @WJHandyDad

    2 жыл бұрын

    can't make everyone happy. I get equal number of comments saying I don't provide enough detail on things that I go quickly through. Nice thing is you can skip ahead if you think I'm giving too much detail

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