Ford 351w AFR heads Comp Cams big mutha thumpr hydraulic roller open headers airgap intake quickfuel
Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары
This is an old video of when I got the engine up and running in my 53 Ford mainline. I miss this engine and will probably build another.
Пікірлер: 289
Can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched this video, sounds like a group of angry galloping horses, pure ear porn. Gotta build my 351 like this.
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
Believe me I miss this engine. Thanks
@therealunknown123.
Жыл бұрын
@@1953fords are u running a hardened steel distributor gear with that big mutha thumpr roller cam or a iron distributor gear? If yours the 35-602-8 part number bro. They claim that part number is made of austempered ductile iron and im not getting a straight answer about what material distributor gear works best for this cam. Thanks in advance
@larrygriffin7024
Ай бұрын
Chevy killer go get em ford
Lol I bet your neighbors love this.
@brandonnichols7999
2 жыл бұрын
😄
@jeremyjc1978
Жыл бұрын
I would love to live next to this guy!
@jeepwk6.5L
Жыл бұрын
I would. At least he wouldn’t call the cops on me for my projects
You ain't never heard no Chevy sound like that! Very nice 🔥🤘
@michaelharrison6978
Жыл бұрын
Whatttt??? I have a built 565 that will bury this little 351 u wouldnt even hear this lil motor running hahahahaha an i have a built small block ford in a 64 comet that i Love to death but man u wrong with that statement LMAO
@1953fords
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelharrison6978 well a 351 will NEVER compare to a BB either ford or Chevy let alone and stroker large cubic inches. I once as well built a 1964 Comet Caliente AFX style tear drop hood fiberglass fenders and front bumper. Air ducks to the inside headlights. I cut the shock towers back and built a 1966 Mercury 410 FE engine for it 12.5 comp solid cam. And that would have made this 351 sound like a Camry. But I sold it wow 18 years ago and used the money as down payment on our first house. I miss that car. Built over 5 or so years down to bare body had it Sandblasted. Finished off with Wimbledon White. Thanks for watching 😁
@somethinburnin
11 ай бұрын
Guess you guys never heard of Bob Glidden's 351.
@emerykinzie794
8 ай бұрын
@@michaelharrison6978someone got mad lol😂
@danielsantos8625
8 ай бұрын
I was a chevy guy but I can agree that is one beautiful sound!
I saw your other video when it was on the test stand. Good job man! SOUNDS SWEET!
@1953fords
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and your kind words👍🏻
Thanks for sharing !!!!! Nothing like that sound .... ohhhh yea !!!
That's one mean engine!!!!! Wow,sounds great!!!
Love the small block fords! Got a few myself
That boy sounds nice! I hope I can get there one day with my 351w motor
This is what I want my truck to sound like. Amazing. Excellent work!!!!
I love it every time you rev it🎶
That sounds soo good.!!
One sick motor love it
Sounds very healthy
Thanks for watching. I have some other old videos of it I’ll find and post. 👍🏻
@morganbrowning867
3 жыл бұрын
How hard was it fitting this in? Wonder about the steering box and crossmember? Going full disc what do you recommend for master and booster?
@1953fords
3 жыл бұрын
@@morganbrowning867 hey man so engine fits in very easily. Need rear sump oil pan. Headers are tricky with stock suspension. I used hard to find mustang II headers and they fit no problem. Now this car has a mustang II front suspension. So it has manual rack and pinion. Now I can use any foxbody headers. For the master cylinder get a 1987 Ford ranger one. Aluminum with plastic reservoir and small. Works perfect. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching
@morganbrowning867
3 жыл бұрын
@@1953fords the rear sump pain fits with stock steering?
@1953fords
3 жыл бұрын
@@morganbrowning867 back on my chopped 53 I ran a 289 rear sump with mustang II v8 motor mounts. Impossible to find now. V8 mustang II cyclone headers. Can’t find either. And actually a 62 Ford galaxie steering box. Can’t remember why I went with that other than the stock column being messed up
@morganbrowning867
3 жыл бұрын
@@1953fords alright thank ya! If it’s alright I may keep in touch with you gonna be doing this swap soon
Listen to that dam thing thump yeah buddy you got a winner
Man that is enough to give any gear head a huge rise in the Levis I had to turn it all the way up
Lol, now that's a cam; I love it!!!
Damn son,that’s sounds big people at all you can eat buffet . Been debating on what cam to install in roller 351 we are building for fox body, think you helped make up our mind.
Sounds right and tight
I'm not a Ford guy (raised in a Mopar family) but I can respect any good engine build, as long as it's not foreign junk anyway. Sounds damn good. A close buddy of mine is having a .40 over 351 Windsor built by his buddy who's a mechanic with a stage 2 RV cam and Holley sniper EFI. I'm glad he went with the sniper EFI system after I mentioned it to him rather than a Coyote swap. A new built C6 is going in with it. It's a 77 F150 with less than 150k original miles on it and all original drivetrain. It runs like a raped ape already, a fresh 351W bored 40 over with sniper EFI is gonna be ridiculous
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words. Sounds like your buddy has a sweet ride👍🏼
@bmthfan1231
2 жыл бұрын
foreign junk? lot of foreign motors are eons better than domestic motors, even just stock lol. and im a ford guy. do not be ridiculous just because of a personal bias.
@fixitshop3025
Жыл бұрын
@@bmthfan1231 I agree with him I don’t care if your inline 4 makes more power, if it doesn’t have the rumble of a v8 I don’t want it
@bmthfan1231
Жыл бұрын
@@fixitshop3025 I doubt you actually own an inline 4 let alone a v8 so im not entirely considering your opinion on the world's current state of moto vehicles. Have fun on your bicycles lol.
@fixitshop3025
Жыл бұрын
@@bmthfan1231 I got a 72 f100 and a 66 mustang both have 302s but your right I don’t own a inline 4 because it doesn’t have the rumble of a v8
Now that’s a hot rod!!!!! Rumble and throttle... :)
Wooo thats a bad boy there Nasty Nice
I'd be proud to be your neighbor brother. That's music to my ears. Lol sounds nasty!
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
Why thank you brother…. Yes it’s a symphony👍🏼
Awesome build!!! I wanna get one inside my Mustang 99 New Edge
@mustangguy7063
2 жыл бұрын
I'm currently in process of putting a .030 351w in my 2000 mustang gt. Tired if the 4.6 . It's my 2nd one ive had
@RegulerShowTV
2 жыл бұрын
@@mustangguy7063 How will you make it street legal? Or do you not have emission testing?
@KF422TX
6 ай бұрын
@RegulerShowTV why's it got to be legal lol...takes the fun out of it. But most states you can easily get it street legal. Obviously Cali is out of the question lol
Sounds like VICTORY 😮
Sounds Great
Man my 54 ford customline would be awesome soundong like this
You don’t know how many times I’ve watched this video this 351 sounds mean!!! 😮
Oooh, that gave me a woody!
Gawd damn that choppy is sexy. Simply a badass build. Do you have the engine build specs posted anywhere?
i wanna do this to my 351 bored 60 over. its got a mild cam now
I like your cut G
Sounds good brother!
What Carb are you using? Throttle response is quick and crisp and the engine just sounds outright bananas!! Awesome build!!
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
Quick Fuel 750
@therealunknown123.
Жыл бұрын
@@1953fords is that qf-750 a double pumper or vacuum secondary? Don't forget to answer my question on what material distributor gear u used with this cam if it's a roller retro if u remember!! Very nice 351w sbf build too, sounds wicked
@1953fords
Жыл бұрын
@@therealunknown123. hey Bobby the cam I used was the regular one. Not the retrofit one. I used the gear that is recommended for any roller cam. I used a comp cam steel gear. Don’t remember the part number. But even any gear from a 302 dist from a roller motor will fit also. The quick fuel 750 was mech secondary. Thanks for watching.
@therealunknown123.
Жыл бұрын
@@1953fords thanks bro, i had a few tecs to tell me to use a melonized steel gear which jus means a hardened steel gear but i had one to tell me a melonized iron gear and that kinda confused me LOL! So thats why i figured to ask u bro and thanks for the quick reply. That lit 351w u built was music 🎶 for a gear head ears!! It sounded amazing
I just built a 351 I wish it sounded like this one
@joumasepoes88
2 жыл бұрын
How you liking those promaxx heads? Do you still have the grey bump side with the 460?
@CCAutoWorks
2 жыл бұрын
@@joumasepoes88 I really like them and yes we still have the bump side
What are the build specs on the heads and cam? What cfm on the carb? Fantastic sound btw!!
Sound mean! I know this was posted a while back but can you tell a little more about the build? Comp ratio, rockers ect... I'm gathering parts for a 60s B/ Altered build. I just finished up a 331 for my '46. Video on my channel.. Thanks!
What compression? Sounds good, how's the power band before it hits peak numbers?
Sounds like you like hearing it:p
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
It’s like a symphony 😁
Good lord this thing could wake the dead
Now i have goals for my v8 swap in my ranger
@1953fords
Жыл бұрын
Yes yes now that my 302 gave up in my ranger I’m building a 393 for it. Should be way more fun 😁
Lord! Can you tell me cam ,compression, and carb? Im building a motor and looking at different combos
Thanks for replying mate
@1953fords
3 ай бұрын
Of course my friend. I wish I could have given you a definitive answer. Cheers 👍🏼
@1953fords
3 ай бұрын
Are you down in Australia ?
Nice!
If you’re still getting notifications from this video, how much of a dramatic change did these heads make to the motor ? Vs Cam? Increased compression?
@1953fords
Жыл бұрын
I will only use AFR heads for anything. They are works of art and work very good. This was a build all at once. Not a slow improvement so I can’t answer a change to anything.
Well that settles it... 351w going in my foxbody lol
@1953fords
3 жыл бұрын
You won’t be disappointed 👍🏻
@falcon6995
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe stroke it to a 408? 🤔
@Coronet_shop
2 жыл бұрын
Simple just stroke a 289 or 302 possible needs bored out
@RegulerShowTV
2 жыл бұрын
@@Coronet_shop 351 has stronger block and longer stroke
@Coronet_shop
2 жыл бұрын
@@RegulerShowTV interesting
What’s all the parts for dis motor
Daddy, what does a demon sound like? 😈😲
Wooo ❤❤❤
How do you like that brawler 750? I have the 650dp but not enough carb so I'm looking at pulling the trigger on this 750 ? O and by the way I'm not going to ask what size cam hahaha
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
Loved that carb would buy again in a second. I’ve had a 850 also. Awesome carbs. I have a 600 on my ranger now in my other videos. It’s too small. Oh and thanks for not asking how big the cam is. 😂😂😂
What kinda power are you making
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
What compression
What’s the part number on that cam?
I'm not at all trying to be a smartass cause that's a wicked build on the Windsor motor but I've got to say that I hope you let a little temperature get up on this engine before you turn it up? I'm sure you know that but she's sweet and I just had to ask.
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry it was warmed up. Thanks for your comment 👍🏼
Bad ass 👍 what u think it will dyno at?
@1953fords
Жыл бұрын
Never dynoed it. Sold it 4 years ago. I would have guessed conservative about 450ish
What else is done to this engine? It almost sounds like a pulling truck haha, would be awesome and much appreciated to get a full parts list of everything you did. Like are the pistons, rods, push rods, stock or upgraded? Want to get a parts list together so I can start planning the engine build on my 77 f100 Thanks
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry for late response. I don’t always get notifications. 1984 Block .040 over with dish pistons .005 in the hole I drilled and tapped valley for factory spider for hydraulic roller lifters. Stock rods Stock crank Big Mutha Thumpr hydraulic roller cam. Normal one not a retrofit cam Stock replacement Ford racing hydraulic roller lifters. Stock Dog Bones I machined to work in NON factory roller block Stock sheet metal spider AFR NON EGR 165cc Heads Scorpion Aluminum 1.6 roller rockers Comp cams HD push rods Edelbrock RPM Air-Gap intake Quick Fuel 750 vacuum secondary Mallory Uní-Lite Dist. BBK 1-3/4 foxbody 351w swap headers. It really wasn’t anything special. But ran very good and I’m old school and love a stumbling idle. I’d guess it about 400-425 HP at the crank.
@RobSimmons6.7
2 жыл бұрын
@@1953fords all good man, was the hydraulic roller cam worth the extra cost vs just getting the big mutha thumpr non roller style? Stock length pushrods?
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
@@RobSimmons6.7 definitely worth roller over flat tappet. No cam break in. Plus way less friction and heat with rollers. Just need to have proper valve spring rate for roller cam vs flat tappet. I can’t remember if it was a stock length pushrod. I just measured what length I needed and ordered them.
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
@@RobSimmons6.7 stock Ford racing roller lifters we’re $125 new. Stock spider I already had. Stock bones are cheap. And then price of cam is only really like $125-$150 more over flat tappet.
@RobSimmons6.7
2 жыл бұрын
@@1953fords alright I was leaning towards the roller style but was just curious. Going to be working on the truck/engine over the winter and it will be pretty similar to yours just planning on going with a Holly sniper EFI conversion kit instead of carb
Love this motor.whst compression and how many cc heads?
@1953fords
4 ай бұрын
About 10ish to one maybe high 9’s? I forget. It had slight dish piston the heads were 58cc
Sounds like a NASCAR man. You building another 351 for this car or something different?
@1953fords
3 жыл бұрын
Started building a Barra for this car. But changed plans. Looking to build another 351 possibly thanks
Sounds so good. What size heads. And do you have part number for the cam
@1953fords
2 ай бұрын
AFR 165 Heads. Just the CompCams Big Mutha Thumpr. Not the Mutha Thumpr. I forget the part number I believe it’s in one of the comments. Hydraulic Roller of course.
@bryce090892
2 ай бұрын
@@1953fords man it sounds great and snappy for just 165 heads. I’m going 195 and a big mutha thumper
@1953fords
2 ай бұрын
@@bryce090892 yes it was just what I was trying to accomplish I wanted the smaller size for the street. Plus if you compare the flow numbers. The 185’s only start flowing more over .600 lift. The cam is under .600 so your not gaining anything but slower velocity and less responsiveness thanks for all your kind words. 👍🏼
@1953fords
2 ай бұрын
@@bryce090892 compare the flow numbers of your 195’s to the 165’s? Anything over the .558 if I remember the highest lift on it means nothing
What was the spec on this engine?
How much the cost his motor??
Well damn
❤
Hey, do you remember the details of the engine? Im currently building one i got it bored and stroked to 418 cui, 11.5:1 comp, 704/706 cam, 1050 holley demon carb. Been a project and a half. I want it running so bad lmao, but instead here i am watching videos of cammed out windsors in hopes mine sounds similar 😂😂
@1953fords
Жыл бұрын
1984 block I converted to roller. .040 over flat tops with valve reliefs. Was about 10:1 AFR 165 heads comp cams big mutha thumper cam scorpion 1.6 roller rockers. Edelbrock air gap intake and the quick fuel 750 1-3/4 fox body swap headers. Very straight forward build
@infamousftfw
Жыл бұрын
@@1953fords appreciate the reply! Thank you!
@1953fords
Жыл бұрын
@@infamousftfw your welcome
@1953fords
9 ай бұрын
@claystudtman hi I wanted to keep good responsiveness. Since it was on the street. If you look at flow numbers between the 2 heads the 185’s only work better with higher rpm and such. The 165’s flow a ton more than any GT40 head so I knew it was gonna work good. Thanks for watching
Do you need to run a vacuum canister with that cam?
@1953fords
3 ай бұрын
I was running manual brakes so as far as vacuum I can’t tell you if you would need to run one.
NICE 🔧🚗💪🇺🇸👊
@1953fords
3 ай бұрын
Thanks
Go you have an estimate on how much a build like that would cost if I already have the motor
@1953fords
Жыл бұрын
I put that engine together in 2016 from parts I was gathering. I’d say at that time I had about $6000 into it. I plan on building another one soon for my ranger. I’m sure it will be more now a days.
Im working on a 69 390 in my f100 what is that in love it
@1953fords
3 жыл бұрын
1953 Ford Mainline 2 door sedan
What size afr heads are they??, sounds very tuff
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
Hello these were only 165’s I wanted more velocity for throttle response on the street. Thanks for watching
I went to like this video......i already did 😅
Ohh and is it stock block ?
@1953fords
2 ай бұрын
Yes sir Stock Block .040 over. 1984 non roller block. I used a stock 5.0 spider lined it all up and drilled and tapped the valley for it. Then used stock 5.0 hydraulic roller lifters new of course. I then clearanced the dog bones to not interfere with the block. This was NOT the retrofit one they sold
Can anyone see and or tell what carburetor he’s useing ?
@1953fords
6 ай бұрын
Quick Fuel 750 brawler
Do you jet the carb any certain way or just put it on ?
@1953fords
9 ай бұрын
This carb was pretty close out of the box. Just needed minor adjusting
@aeo177
9 ай бұрын
@1953fords thank you for the quick response, I plan on putting in some h beam rods, re condition the stock crank, kieth black 151 flat tops, and some afr 185 enforcer heads with the same cam you have, this video is what set me on the big mutha thumpr, fantastic sounding engine!
@1953fords
9 ай бұрын
@@aeo177 no problem. Your welcome. Best of luck with your build 👍🏼
What cam did you have in that motor
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
As stated in the title Big Mutha Thumpr Comp Cams Hydraulic roller. Thanks
Aint nothing better sounding that a hairy chested American V8 with a hog ass cam!
sounds mean. how do you like the set up still?
@1953fords
Жыл бұрын
Well I ended up taking the C4 out and putting in a 6R80 transmission in it. I got disgusted with the electronic controller that controlled the transmission so I ended up selling the engine and transmission. Then that’s when I bought a Ford Barra engine from Australia for the car. I started getting everything for the Barra but money got tight and now it sits. Still have the Barra. I have another 351w I may build again like the one I had. I regret selling that 351. But can easily duplicate it. Also thought of doing a Godzilla but money is tight at the moment. I also have to finish my ranger.
What model heads are you using
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
Hi this had AFR165 heads on it as stated in the title thanks
@jimf4754
2 жыл бұрын
Cool what compression you running
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
@@jimf4754 this was 10:1
@jimf4754
2 жыл бұрын
@@1953fords hot damn. Mine's 12:1 I can't wait to fire it up
@jimf4754
2 жыл бұрын
@@1953fords blubb glub glubb glubb blubb blubb blubb
Do you remember the lift and duration?
@1953fords
3 жыл бұрын
.552/.538 107 lobe separation. 243/257 duration @ .050 thanks for watching
What duration thumper cam is this
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
Big Mutha Thumpr
What for headers are you running ?
@1953fords
9 ай бұрын
Those were BBK 1-3/4 351w Foxbody swap headers. 👍🏼
What kind of pistons are in this?
@1953fords
Жыл бұрын
.040 over forged dish pistons
Lobe separation and duration?
@1953fords
Жыл бұрын
257/243 @.050 107 lobe separation
Why can’t my 351 sound like this
What cam is that?
@1953fords
4 ай бұрын
Hi it was the Comp Cams Big Mutha Thumpr as says in the title thanks
Stock bottom end?
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
Yes stock crank and rods. .040 over
What rockers??
@1953fords
Жыл бұрын
Scorpion 1.6 aluminum full roller
Pop corn
Are those the AFR 185s or 205s?? She sounds nasty!!
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
Actually these were the 165’s!! And she was nasty. 👍🏼
@anthonysiler4938
2 жыл бұрын
@@1953fords really?? I'm impressed!! Any power numbers by any chance?
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonysiler4938 sorry never dynoed it. But if you think of everyone swapping LS engines. These AFR 165’s flow better than and stock LS head. So this should have been comparable in power to a cammed LS. Yes I know it takes $2000 heads to compare to junk yard LS engine. But I was very impressed myself with how this ran and how responsive it was.
@anthonysiler4938
2 жыл бұрын
So my guess is around 400 hp to be honest, thats not bad at all.. even though it sounds more like 500 hp.. eather way it sounds like an LS killer ..
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonysiler4938 yes if I was to guess I would have around 400/425 as well.
what are your horsepower numbers
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
I would guess conservatively 400ish😏
A lot of people see this cam as a "joke" but in all seriousness....does the cam actually make decent power?
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
Yes I hear that a lot as well. This engine ran very strong and hard. Never dynoed it. But I was happy with it. I had this cam also in a notchback but in a 302 with TFS heads. First time at track ran 12.36 of the trailer. Back 12 years ago. I love this cam. Are there ones out there that make more power? Yes there are. But I love the sound as well. 👍🏼
@charlesthorpe3179
2 жыл бұрын
@@1953fords thanks bro. I'm putting together a stroked Windsor for a 72 merc comet. I plan on running afr or 11r heads....I know it'll easily be over 500hp but that sound is amazing lol
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesthorpe3179 very awesome. Yes nothing grabs attention more than a nasty stumbling idle. I built a 64 comet caliente. Back in mid 90’s. I built it all factory AFX style. I was building a 66 427 side oiler High Riser. Never finished the 427. But built a Merc 410 FE for it. Solid cam 12.5 compression 1050 dominator. That engine was nasty. But sold that car in 2003 and used the money for down payment on our first house🤷🏻♂️. Good luck with your comet. 👍🏼
@charlesthorpe3179
2 жыл бұрын
@@1953fords man that's awesome. Thanks for the information.
@jakefriesenjake
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Other Cams have better power sure. But the sound of this? This cam?? It's off the chain!!?!! I have a big Mutha thumpr cam that's being delivered today! From summit. Going in a 9.8:1 comp, 381 sbc, Vic Jr. heads and intake. Made 511hp on dyno before with a more modest solid roller comp cams. Not going to race it, just cruise it. 81 Z28. Hell of a sound dude!
That is one nasty little unit….
Ford 🎼 🎵 🎶
Where can I find the AFR heads?
@jimmyvinsonhaler1653
3 жыл бұрын
Jegs and Summit both have some.
@cbr1thou
2 жыл бұрын
Mall
How much hp?
@1953fords
Жыл бұрын
If I had to guess it was around 400/425.
What cam
@1953fords
3 жыл бұрын
Comp Cams Big Mutha Thumpr
@mustangguy7063
2 жыл бұрын
What was the lift on the cam? I know there's a few of those big mutha thumpr cams. Lol.
What cam is this?
@1953fords
11 ай бұрын
Big Mutha Thumpr
@syman9556
11 ай бұрын
Do you know the cam number so I can buy one
@1953fords
11 ай бұрын
@@syman9556 299THR7
@syman9556
11 ай бұрын
@@1953fords thank you!
@1953fords
11 ай бұрын
@@syman9556 your welcome
Ok
0:40
Whats the estimated hp?
@1953fords
2 жыл бұрын
If I had to guess maybe about 400ish. 🤷🏻♂️