Zealand is on the run that means that he is actually running for once edit: mum i made it😂

@joeybaggs9631

Ай бұрын

Finally 😂

@StellaRossaGiacomino

Ай бұрын

Lets go!!!

@yungtrashlord

Ай бұрын

running irl instead of running fm on his computer

@stu24.football20

Ай бұрын

facts he finally left his chair 🤣🤣

@TheStuartGibson

28 күн бұрын

Or instead of running his mouth off lol 😂😂​@yungtrashlord

I can't believe Spain has a better total goal difference than every other semi-finalist combined lol

@Anony217

Ай бұрын

Watch them lose to France...

@ramonfrancois9306

Ай бұрын

​@@Anony217They're probably gonna to France

@sweetpepino1907

Ай бұрын

At this point I feel like France will win the entire tournament without a goal in open play. They've coasted through this tournament at the expense of literally everybody else. Not for lack of trying at least, but my God how has this happened

@LazyRecap32

Ай бұрын

The ungodly final between England v France and everyone will wonder HOW?! 😂

@grantmitchel

Ай бұрын

@@sweetpepino1907 It was bound to happen one day, football has been going in this direction since the 90's

That is why I loved watching Georgia and Turkey this Euro's. They may not have the star power of other nations, especially in Georgia's case, but they have been great to watch. They played to cause mayhem, score goals and entertain. They played football instead of consulting a spreadsheet on how to win.

@BaxsStudios

Ай бұрын

Turkey was pretty bad against Austria Mert saved their asses but yah they were way more enjoyable then england and France

@Jonathanizer

Ай бұрын

Turkey sucked much harder than France, Portugal or England, but for other reasons...

@lewismass4320

Ай бұрын

@@BaxsStudiostoo bad being enjoyable doesn’t win you trophies

@pstratos7

Ай бұрын

You watched Georgia play Spain and thought that was enjoyable?

@DaniG.German883

Ай бұрын

@@lewismass4320Barcelona

I would argue that "winning on pens" means the style isn't working. Yeah, you win, but we all know that pens are essentially a toss-up. Portugal showed that: The keeper who saved 3 out of 3 pens in one shootout saved 0 out of 5 in the other. Because there is a large element of luck. If you have the better team, relying on luck is stupid. Think of it this way: If you spend a million dollars or euros or pounds on lottery tickets - that's a stupid idea and you should be mocked. If you happen to get more money out of it than you put in (which is highly unlikely) it doesn't change that the idea was bad. You just got away with a stupid idea. Just like Southgate is getting away with a stupid idea.

@brzt4256

Ай бұрын

That's what I'm thinking, too. Winning games 0-1 by hogging the ball and controlling the game, as Spain once did, is a valid and winning style of play. Winning games on penalties after either 0-0 or 1-1 is not winning, it's a feature of the game since we don't allow draws.

@philanthropist5560

Ай бұрын

Lets remember this team has been out xGed by both SLOVAKIA and SWITZERLAND. These teams dont even come close to the amount of talent that England has. Southgate should be getting a lot more out of this team!

@muppetboy

Ай бұрын

Penalties in not luck. Watch Matt Le Tissier and check his record, he missed 1 out of 50 pens. Not luck.

@philanthropist5560

Ай бұрын

@@muppetboy considering the chances switzerland had England was lucky it even went to penalties

@LessPegasus

Ай бұрын

Not luck. Slovenia were terrible at penalties and france was prepared.

If England and France get to the final, that game is gonna be an abomination. Might as well tune in just for the penalties

@blabla-rg7ky

Ай бұрын

to be honest, Spain-England will be a snoozefest, too. Spain will simply keep the ball and pass it sidewide like they always do, while the Brits will be uninterested (and incapable, of course) of gaining or keeping possession and will be happy to close all lanes down and we will be looking at a 5 million passes per half by the Spaniards with 0 shots on goal for either team for 90 minutes, then 30 more minutes of mind-numingbly passes, followed by PKs won by the Brits again because luck had been the motto of this team in this Euro. So, I actually think that France - England (should this boring final happen) will actually be slightly more enjoyable than Spain-England if we're talking about England making the final The good thing, however (and thank God that Netherlands exists) is that the Dutch are an offensive team, so no matter who they get in the final (Spain or France) the entertainment will be insured because at least the Dutch will attack and if they happen to score then the other team (no matter who they are) will have to come out of their shell and attack, too, which will make the game entertaining like it was Netherlands - Turkey. That's why everyone needs to root for the Dutch against England (not that it's needed, Netherlands are better than England anyway), or else this will be the most boring Euro final of all times...

@DonRA33

Ай бұрын

😂😂 real

@andresmartinezramos7513

Ай бұрын

I would fucking riot. A final that isn't Netherlands-Spain would be a disgrace. That would be an affront to God.

@grimaffiliations3671

Ай бұрын

@@andresmartinezramos7513 It'll be Spain England

@grimaffiliations3671

Ай бұрын

I disagree, it could easily finish before extra time. France have been creating a lot of chances and England have the players to create things, especially now that they can finally make use of their left side with Shaw coming back from injury

This is football's "players will optimize the fun out of the game" moment

@Hyde_Hill

Ай бұрын

Oh please hope it doesn't go the way of basketball. As a 90s fan the current stuff is abhorrent to watch.

@dennisrossonero

Ай бұрын

@@Hyde_Hill basketball is actually pretty good in Europe rn. NBA sucks.

@Hyde_Hill

Ай бұрын

@@dennisrossonero Yeah part of it has also been rule changes that the NBA did but Europe did not do. Still the optimization NBA hype combined with the rules killed it.

@d3w222

Ай бұрын

@@Hyde_Hillsorry to say but football has been that way for more than a decade now

@kylejohansen689

Ай бұрын

@@Hyde_Hill Why would teams not value 3 pointers a ton when it gets them more points? 50 2s and no 3s is 100 points, 30 2s and 20 3s is 120 points. So long as the game is won by who has more points it makes sense to make more baskets that count more. I don't always agree with C/PF stepping out and shooting 3s but if they are good at them why wouldn't a coach take advantage?

The Euros finals is going to be England Vs France in a battle of the two least satifying football styles. Probably with England winning it all by not trying for the first 70-80 minutes of every game.

@sunnyhvar1992

Ай бұрын

Genuinely, if that's the final, I'm not watching

@xFurashux

Ай бұрын

Probably with drop in viewership.

@gevgnek

Ай бұрын

The kind of match you'd rather read about in the news the next day

@LeeboProductions

Ай бұрын

Could be, but if there's any justice left in this world Spain should win it.

@bipolarminddroppings

Ай бұрын

@@xFurashux its a sport. viewership is irrelevant. Winning is all that matters. If you want entertainment, WWE is what you're looking for, it's actually very good right now too.

You can't run from Gregg forever, Zealand.

96th minute equaliser against Slovakia and a penalty shootout win which is a 50/50. I wouldn’t say his system ‘works’ we’ve been relatively lucky so far

@shimmy7169

Ай бұрын

Italy have done this tactic for the last 40 years

@spinyslasher6586

Ай бұрын

Don't forget that both knockout equalisers (Bellingham and Saka) were purely individual wondergoals that wouldn't have been remotely possible with a lower quality squad. And also that his squad is filled with natural penalty takers who needs zero instructions from him. Pure luck for Southgate.

@LessPegasus

Ай бұрын

Exactly. This sensationalist prick doesn't have a clue just like Southgate. France would've been up 3-0 against portugal if they didn't miss chances at open goal lol.

@andresmartinezramos7513

Ай бұрын

​@@spinyslasher6586He has the unfathomable luck to coach a team that will paint over the missmanagement with individual skill

@eddwincedeno5387

Ай бұрын

​@@shimmy7169 and they were celebrated for it. People say Mourinho should take over England and he's the godfather of parking the bus and playing cautious football. A lot of football people are somewhat disconnected with reality.

Historically, overly defensive, pragmatic football would warrant a rules change to encourage more attacking play, but the issue is that the club/league game is as attacking as it's ever been while the international/knockout game is not. The gap between the entertainment quality of club and international football keeps getting wider. There are a few reasons for this: 1. The modern positional game is very dependent on coordinated attacking moves to break down defensive blocks that take a significant amount of training to master. The limited amount of time international teams have to implement game models is not enough for the attacking play to keep up with the defensive play that is implemented much more quickly. 2. The domestic game is primarily league format where lack of parity encourages attacking play. When 80% of your matches as a title challenger are against weaker opposition and wins are worth 3 points, it makes more sense to optimise your game model to consistently beating those even if it means you're weaker in the head-to-head against your title challengers you only play a couple times a season rather than be reactive to your direct competition, but risk dropping points against mid table and below. In the international/knockout game, you have to get results against big teams so you're incentivised to build a game model that does well in big matches even if you barely scrape by in earlier stages. This is why you get someone like Trent Alexander-Arnold celebrated in league formats, but Kyle Walker celebrated in cup formats. I don't really see a way to fix the first issue, but I think you can address the second issue slightly by removing the round of 16 and extending the group stage so only 8 teams make it out of groups. If you had 4 groups of 6 with 5 group stage games each, it would be harder to make it out of groups shifting the relative importance of success to the more league-like portion of the competition and rewarding teams that are successful in picking up points while still maintaining the most exciting parts of the knockout stage. Draws aren't very punishing in a 3 game 4 team format, because the only teams you tend to draw against are your direct competition anyways so its just net neutral, but draws in a 6 team 5 game format get a lot more punishing for teams that hope to go through. Another element I'd like to see is reseeding teams that make it out of the group stages so the top performing 2nd place finisher plays the worst performing winner so that final round group games matter more often.

@alfredlear4141

Ай бұрын

❤

The Nike 'Risk Everything' era was prophetic

You look like you're in witness protection

@_MrMoney

Ай бұрын

WITNESS PROTECTION FOR WHAT?! NO ONE WAS CONVICTED OF ANYTHING!

@dewritos2068

Ай бұрын

*DarkViperAU appears

@sbntd

Ай бұрын

@@_MrMoney Whoa Matto calm down buddy

England in a nut shell. Struggle to make it past lower teams, make it far into a tournament and ultimately lose to a good team

Football and its fans have always had an internal conflict, in where we all want to be entertained, but we all want to see our personal teams win, too. The game is fundamentally a results business. And EVERY TEAM would pick any sort of winning over playing entertaining football that comes with enormous risk.

@tokiliam6015

Ай бұрын

This. Entertaining ways to play the game are usually more risky and therefore inconsistent. An inconsistent play style will not win you any trophy.

@sarab89hj

Ай бұрын

​@@tokiliam6015Celtic, Man City, Barca, real Madrid, prime arsenal, prime Brasil would all like a word

@Stfguac

Ай бұрын

the only issue is if no one wants to watch a team play because they're boring, the tv money gets taken away. Not much of a problem in international football, but at a club you can't win anything by killing every single game you play

Everyone just looks exhausted, so combined with the risk averse football, its all at a very plodding pace

That awkwardly bent hat brim is unironically the epitome of fashion right now. Crew socks are in and I think suspenders will be in soon as well

@Bergamot88

Ай бұрын

Black socks or white

@nickgutierrez83

Ай бұрын

Soon we will all dress like Blippi

@taylorg8509

Ай бұрын

My moustache just twitched hearing this ideal outfit

@ninjalectualx

Ай бұрын

White is the more popular sock but I've had some sick looks with black ones too

@godimready2go

Ай бұрын

It’s actually bout to go out of fashion again lol been trendy for like 2 years so it’s coming

The last point makes sense - our manager (Croatia) openly said during halftime against Italy, a game we HAD to win to have a realistic chance, that the plan was to reach the half time at 0-0 , and then somehow get a goal in the second half and control the game to a 1-0 win. Paraphrasing, but that was essentially it. And the reason why we are not in the knockout phase is a 95th minute goal vs Albania AND a 98th minute goal vs Italy, one of those doesn't happen, and we're through. And as much as I hated this tournament for us, and the quality of football we showed...I mean fair play to the guy, that does seem to be the "meta" for the tournament, we just got really unlucky - funnily enough, through games that I did not like watching, statistically, we might have been the best performing team to not make it out of the groups...and with our track record with knockout games and penalties, if we had gone through, we likely would have had a good run. Thing is, first game of the tournament, we also went up against Spain, who I do think outclassed us completely, which sort of served as a frame of reference going forward, which, looking at it now, is quite unfair, considering Spain is like one of the two teams in this tournament that came to play football...if anything, we were unlucky not only to have them in our group, but to play against them first. But then again, us as a national team I think outside of Modrić(age) and Gvardiol, aren't really elite, so us surviving the game and winning through one goal or penalties makes some sense, England doing it is a much worse look, and even THEN, was it REALLY the game plan to rely on Jude's wonder goal in 95th (first shot on target BTW), against Slovakia of all teams (no disrespect to them, but...) And on the topic of what Bielsa said, I have made the call, that if the final is France-England, I'm not watching. I'll see the result the day after, I don't expect that I'll miss any good football...

@adancinhipo

Ай бұрын

I think its just the tactic to use now if you know you're the favorite in a knock-out tournament. Assume that the handful of elite players on your team will get a goal and focus on possession and limit any opportunity the opposing team can control the ball in a dangerous area. the risk way outweighs the reward for attacking while your up and while its tied you just have to wait till someone like jude does jude things. that being said it can back fire like it did with Croatia and nearly did with England. I hope Croatia gets some guys to replace the aging players it was always fun to watch them punch the big teams in the mouth.

@spinyslasher6586

Ай бұрын

Guardiola has to take responsibility for how badly he has messed up Gvardiol. This is unacceptable and at this point I'm considering if HNS could just outright ban all of its players to play under that fraud and his adjacent coaches. He looked like a completely different player from 2022.

@spinyslasher6586

Ай бұрын

@@adancinhipo Croatia actually played more or less equally on par with Spain in that first match... except for in finishing. Spain scored from almost every chance they got, Croatia on the other hand missed multiple sitters and tap-ins.

@blabla-rg7ky

Ай бұрын

bro, as a neutral fan I can tell you that your team has had many problems, not just the defensive mentality of Dalic. In the game against Spain your team simply refused to play, most of your team (if not all 11 players on the pitch) were simply zoned out from the game, they were thinking probably at holidays, or food, or god-know-what else, only football was not in their minds during that game. I saw zero passion, zero grit, zero fight against Spain, your players looked like senile geriatric grampas hardly waiting for the game to finish so they can go sit on the porch and watch the Sunset. You have no idea how much Croatia's attitude had infuriated me in that game, and not because I like Croatia (I'm actually not a big fan of your country, although I don't hate it either, I am Romanian and I have a habit of NOT hating on my neighbours, but from a footballing perspective I'm not fond of Croatians)... But the reason your players shitty attitude against Spain had infuriated me is because I never liked Spain, and because I always thought that you are more than capable of beating the tiki-taka losers. But not with that attitude... Against Albania you have played well, no complaints there other than you've probably been unlucky to concede that late equalizer... But against Italy you - indeed - played defensively, and that's a risky game to play against the Euro champions. So, you kind of did it to yourselves... These being said, your team is aged as phuck, I think Modric, Petkovic and another player whose name I can't remember at the moment are all 40, or just under 40 years old, and this showed in the fact that you simply couldn't not run with intensity for 90 minutes straight. I think you need a change of generations, you need to dump 50-60% of your current players and bring some young blood in. Sure, this means that you'll probably sacrifice the next Euro and the next WC and will probably not qualify for them (or get grouped at best) until your youngsters get the necessary experience and failures needed for them to learn how to manage important moments, but it's still better to do this now after this Euro than relying on the same old grampas and get grouped again at the next Euro and WC. Your team's problems have not been only Dalic' defensive plan, the 2 biggest problems (the way I see it) have been your lack of attitude and interest of the key players, combined with the aged and burnt out players like Modric, Petkovic, Kovacic, etc... Those were the things that kicked you out of the Euro, not necessarily the unlucky goals against Albania and Italy...

@adancinhipo

Ай бұрын

@@spinyslasher6586 They got smacked with three goals in 15 minutes. Once they were able to regroup and game-plan at half-time they were much better, but the Spanish defense was on one. Not saying they were bad, but Croatia had the worst luck in this tournament. Got drawn into a tough group against the best possession team and one of the best defensive teams in the world. Add to that an Albanian team whose goal isn't to win but to cause as much chaos as possible and that's going to be tough for anyone. I was probably being too general at first but, I mean what do you even tell the team to focus on in that group? every team plays so differently.

Gareth Southgate must be a rabbit's foot hoarder with the amount of luck he's been having

@ninjalectualx

Ай бұрын

That's definitely true but is carrying around a severed rodent foot really worth it? I would think you could achieve the same amount of luck using humane items like horseshoes and four-leag clovers and such

@owenferrara

Ай бұрын

It also helps when the england squad is that much better than any opposition that they have faced. A win is a win but these are games they should be winning. If Southgate was coaching Switzerland, I doubt the result is flipped

@ninjalectualx

Ай бұрын

Sorry typo. I meant four-league clovers, ones that have been promoted from the 4th division up to premier clover league

@papalegba6796

Ай бұрын

OR... Maybe it's fixed? 🤔😂

@f1champ551

Ай бұрын

Nah, he got the the Book of the Dark Arts in this Euro, damn... Lucksacked like a Yu-Gi-Oh TCG player...

I think the results that Southgate has achieved with England say a lot more about the decline in quality of other national teams, look at the Italian and Brazilian teams that existed in the Rooney/lampard/scholes era. the french team, the Dutch team. They are all worse now.

The only time's england havent looked terrible is when southgate's tactics have to be ignored because they have to take risks

@spinyslasher6586

Ай бұрын

No you don't understand, Southgate is a 1000IQ genius. He specifically predicted that in the 95th minute of the game, a stray header would roam inside the box, and be positioned perfectly for Jude Bellingham to execute a perfect bicycle kick finish to equalise. He didn't need the team to make any more shots on goal because he knew exactly what would happen. Pep Guardiola should learn from Southgate. Who needs 10 shots on goal with perfect passing buildup when 1 bicycle kick does the job?

Nah we've got away with it against both Slovakia and Switzerland. There's a difference between nullifying a game, taking the life out of it in order to have a relatively trouble free 1-0 win and being 90 seconds from losing to slovakia and 14 minutes from losing to switzerland. Im very worried that our luck will run out at some point; the luck of a 0.05xg bicycle kick will not be replicated every game and a saka masterclass won't happen every game

After the group stage I thought this is going to be the best tourney ever. Now I am convinced that this Euro will proof that Boredom Ball triumphs over excitement 😥😥

Southgate's tactics are horrendous, but the problem is that as long as he keeps getting results and deep dives in tournaments he probably feels there is absolutely no reason to change them and the English FA probably supports him on this. I mean I would understand this style of play if he was coaching the 2004 Greece that had to make do with what they had and ended up upsetting everyone and winning that tournament. England on the other hand have so much better talent that it's downright criminal watching them play like this. If they manage to actually win the Euros its not gonna be because a masterclass Southgate tactical display but a combination of glorious dumb luck and the fact the opposing teams themselves have simply been equally bad against England.

I refuse to believe that relying on a wonder goal in the last second of the game to just take the game to extra time is anything other than luck .. that cannot be a tactic .. imagine what conversations we would have if it wasn't for that Bellingham goal against Slovakia ... Gareth lucked out really hard

Seems like every sport is going through optimization doldrums. The only one I can think of that is being proactive about it is baseball with the rule changes in MLB last year to basically force teams to change their playstyles.

@Hazamandeous

Ай бұрын

Yep, and it has made MLB much more watchable in my mind.

@grantmitchel

Ай бұрын

Yeah football needs some rule changes to open up the game and the only one I can see people accepting is the daylight offside rule..

Full credit to Slovakia and Switzerland, but the England team we have should be beating them.... Maybe not comfortably, but somewhere close to that. The fact that we've been pushed so hard by both and barely scraped past is testament to them exceeding expectations and doing excellently, but is also a sign that England just aren't at the level it should be at. Now that we're due to play one of the other teams in the top 10 (Netherlands are currently 7th), we are really going to see just how well Southgate's tactics hold up, and by that I mean I'm expecting a Spain vs Netherlands final

Yeah it works... so far. Thats the one addition you need to make here. It works *if* France or England wins the tournament playing like this. If not, then what is its legacy? An England with a great generation that got to the semis by throwing everything on defense against Slovakia? Of course Gareth's record looks impressive on paper, but what will its legacy be if (and this is a big if, granted) Holland give them the spanking they deserve? Name one memorable elite national team that got eliminated in the quarterfinals or semis. It's hard unless you name teams that actually played good football, like the Netherlands in 1998 and 2000. Or teams that were not elite, like Turkey and South Korea in 2002. But for me, I don't think it's impressive that a top team like England did so 'well' in tournaments if they didn't win any of them. The fact that they had the same manager in this period is an interesting trivia, but doesn't really change that for me. If England win this tournament, ok, then that's a tangible result that nobody can take away from them. But if they don't, who, in 20 years' time, is going to say: "Remember Gareth Southgate's England? Remember all the quarterfinals and all the draws he ground out against small Balkan countries? I was there, Gandalf..." This is what Co Adriaanse called "scoreboard journalism". It's the same as the people who point to Memphis being a top scorer for the Netherlands, almost entirely on the back of qualifiers and friendlies. Or people who say: "We're the best if we're high on the FIFA rankings". I will never say results and statistics don't matter at all, but they need to be seen in the right proportion. Probably at some point, someone will be able to counter this kind of play, or maybe the system of extra time and penalty shootouts will be reformed, because now it's incentivising the kind of play that you don't want to see.

9:54 Xabi Alonso with Leverkusen has been winning with entertaining football, would be great to see that style of football win an international tournament

Not sure how much I agree with this. I don't believe the play styles of winning teams have decreased as linearly in "attractiveness" as you describe it. There have always been teams that haven't played the most beautiful football but won, like Greece in 2004, Portugal in 2016 or, moving over to club football, basically every single Mourinho team. And current trends as I observe them even point in an opposite direction with Brighton playing a possession-oriented and risky style successfully without being a top team and many coaches all over Europe adapting it (Bologna, Leverkusen, Girona and Stuttgart were probably the biggest surprises in Europe's Top 5 leagues last season and all played beautiful football). On a different note, I have the same worries that our sport could become less popular over time, but mostly due to increasing ticket and streaming costs and footballers getting detached even more from the public due to the ridiculousness of their wages, along with the chronically decreasing attention spans, European league games on other continents, and so on.

Anyone else notice no one can attack the middle. Its mostly crosses from the wing. This goes for all teams. I haven't seen a successful 1v1 in the middle. Its usually a foul or block . No one can dribble.

@crediblesalamander8056

Ай бұрын

it's not really that no one can dribble, but more that people don't realize just how good modern defense really is.

@MrBongobongbongo

Ай бұрын

@@crediblesalamander8056 that's the same thing

@darkgenesis342

Ай бұрын

Spain attacks in the middle actually but in general you are right, it’s rare to see combination in the middle, the technical level of the game is lower imo

@BaxsStudios

Ай бұрын

​@@darkgenesis342 and still both goals from spain against germany were played through the outside. So his point still stands

@darkgenesis342

Ай бұрын

@@BaxsStudios you are fighting ghosts, might want to read my comment again, and if you’re still confused then there’s no hope

Euros Final will be France vs England, 0 shots both teams, 0.0000 xG both teams, 0-0 and Kane will miss his penalty

England has been out xGed by both SLOVAKIA and SWITZERLAND. Lets not confuse this, Southgate is at best an average manager. He is getting through by luck and the stars he has in his team.

Hopefully a Spain vs Netherlands final as a win for football.

@georgerubypoppy1063

Ай бұрын

Hopefully ending in a win for Netherlands.

I think the euros format also lends to more defensive play due to many of the 3rd best teams in a group getting through and as we've seen in this euros and the last euros the cut off for getting through looks like 3 draws. Therfore why would teams fight to win games when there is more risk of a loss when a draw is good enough. Like with england when they beat serbia they basically knew that they only needed one more draw to get though from 2 games so theres really no reason to put all your energy into winning them games as your pretty much already through Since the next world cup is changing to this format its going to go down the same route as the need to get points is much less.

@grantmitchel

Ай бұрын

Yeah the last round of group games were boring because of that, so I thought, bout spilled over into the knockouts.

F1 went through that. At some point no one cared because every season was so one sided. And eventually they had to change the rules to artificially get the teams to be closer together. Now it doesn't always work, but not sure that can be done in football

@ninjalectualx

Ай бұрын

Lessen the financial disparities between clubs

@Andrynalin86

Ай бұрын

But its not that it is that one-sided at euros. Swiss could have taken the win yesterday. Every quarterfinal was super close and could as well have ended in the favour of the other team.

@spinyslasher6586

Ай бұрын

@@Andrynalin86 But it didn't.

@brosciencegutfeelings7058

Ай бұрын

F1 “went through that”… You mean F1 will always remain F1… No parity…

@A.MM661

Ай бұрын

​@@Andrynalin86it's not about one sided domination,sure the Swiss could have won against England,sure Slovenia could have won against Portugal,sure Belgium could have won against France. It's about entertainment...football NEEDS to be entertaining...it is a fundamental quality a sport should have,what some of the national teams playing in international competitions are providing is NOT entertainment,if this does indeed become a epidemic within the sport to the point 1/3 international games are shit like this,the fundamental rules of the game need to be changed,I've always been in support of change of rules of football as long as they are not too radical and promote attack.

I'm really annoyed with how people talk Southgate up with a half baked analysis, solely based on the results, without looking at the context of these results. Because Every time Southgate's England has face quality opposition they have failed. 2018: England beat Columbia (on pens) and Sweden, before faltering against a very good Croatia side. 2020: England road was a poor Germany side (YES Germany was poor in 2020), Ukraine, Denmark and then loosing to Italy in the final 2022: Beat Senegal in the round of 16 and lose to a France in the Quarterfinals 2024: One Denmark win from ending up in the hard bracket. Barely beats Slovakia scoring in the 94th minute on their only shot on goal, then once beat Swiss on pens after, once again, scoring on their only shot on goal. All of a sudden it's not that impressive in my honest opinion.

@shimmy7169

Ай бұрын

So if we use your logic, which as you mention is to look deeper, surely the fact that teams are only able to shoot 1 on target through the entire game is a good thing. Sure it makes the game more boring, but the simple fact is that if they cannot shoot more than once directly at your goal, it limits games going 2-0 up. Thus allowing equalisers such as in the Slovakia and Swiss games. That is the entire point of this tactic. Also I hate when people say “hard bracket”, as teams get better or worse each euro. Maybe the Swiss were just really good, I mean they beat Italy, the reigning champions of the last euros, like the entire thing doesn’t make any sense. And if you say that England have just got worse, then you’re actually advocating for the tactic because they got to the semi final either way! The final is what wins the tournament, not winning against France in the round of 16. By the time the finals come, the team in the hard bracket are exhausted from having to play so hard against hard teams, while England will be able to press into them relatively full of energy.

@MarkaryansChain

Ай бұрын

@@shimmy7169 My point is that might work against weaker opponents simply because of the individual quality of the English players. They can pull something out of nothing like Bellingham did vs Slovakia, and Saka did against the Swiss. But one they get matched against stronger opposition that can match the individual quality, they fall apart, because they can't just sit band and wait for the opponents to make a mistake, because they don't make mistakes, like weaker nations do. Look at club football and the philosophies of teams like Bayern, Liverpool, City, Barca, PSG and City. They are all playing attacking football, of that simple reason: It's the best kind of defense and you take charge of your own fate, by controlling the game. England doesn't do that. Ask any top manager in the world, and they want to control the match through possession. You might not like when people say "hard bracket" but look at the teams: France, Germany, Portugal and Spain in the same bracket IS the hard bracket, like it or not. Why not take charge of your own fate, instead of risking Denmark scoring a later winner to send you on a much harder road to the final? Why keep tempting fate, in stead of taking carge? I know who it works winning finals, thank you, but my logic still stand. You won't win the tournament by playing all the weak teams only to falter when you meet a strong team in the final, because your tactics doesn't allow for you to play on the front foot. Sit back against a team like Spain, and they will eat you alive and they are too strong in defense to make simple mistakes. England risk being in trouble against Netherlands, because Netherlands are better in possession than any other team they have met so far.

I think a big part of this is energy levels. Shorter break between the season and the tournament. More games during the season and the tournament. Hell Xhaka was playing injured which meant no long balls from him and less pressing from the Swiss. As an easy example. So this safety first approach and lack of individual brilliance is due to low energy levels.

We survived the catenaccio era, this will eventually pass as well

Southgates england havent created a single goal out of good play in the whole tournament Deflected cross against serbia Deflected cross against denmark Saved by a wonder goal and a defensive calamity against slovakia Saved by a wonder goal against switzerland. England are insanely lucky. They play shit football and get bailed out. This isnt like city for instance where they create so many changes that eventually, even if the oppo defense plays perfect, something will fall to them. England dont create many chances, havent played a single decent team and dont even look defensively solid. He learned his lesson by playing mainoo in the 8 that improved the team a hell of a lot, but theres still about 5 players that shouldnt be on the pitch that are getting full 90s. Walker, Stones, Trippier, Kane and Foden have been fucking woeful

@shimmy7169

Ай бұрын

If by your logic equalising is a wonder goal then every team has a wonder goal. You’re overly negative unable to admit that the tactic works.

@darkgenesis342

Ай бұрын

Don’t forget about finding themselves in the easier side of a draw since 2014

@spinyslasher6586

Ай бұрын

@@shimmy7169 Equalising by itself isn't a wonder goal, it's the way those equalisers were made that makes them wondergoals. Unless you want to tell me that Southgate specifically trained Bellingham to make a bicycle kick in the dying minutes of the game after England doesn't get a single shot of target the whole game? Or that he told Saka to shoot an accurate bullet from outside the box on a narrow opening after dribbling past multiple defenders and opening up space? The tactic didn't work, the players did.

@shimmy7169

Ай бұрын

@spinyslasher6586 I think you misunderstand what players and managers do. Southgate doesn't control the players. Saka and Bellingham are some of the best players in the world so it shouldn't be called a wonder goal, rather just an ordinary goal. They train. They got the chance to shoot, they did, and scored. Then ended up winning the games. The players know their strengths so saying they were wonder goals is an insult not to Southgate but to the players.

@spinyslasher6586

Ай бұрын

@@shimmy7169 Southgate is a manager. He's supposed to make sure the players don't have to solely rely on themselves and actually play as a team to score goals. It's an insult to Southgate that his players had to resort to themselves to score goals as a last resort. There's no universe where you can excuse zero shots on target until the 95th minute.

Part of it too is the split between international football and club. Bielsa said that teams don't have identity anymore and it is hard not to argue since especially youth players born out of Europe all end up there for development. Suddenly, your entire national team might be on Champions League clubs, but none of those players know how to play like previous generations because they were developed elsewhere. couple that with the limited time national teams have to create tactics, the players can apply to the field, and you're sort of stuck with picking from things they already know. hence you pick strategies that reduce the risk of mistakes if you're a team like France or England. you already know that your talent alone can grab you a goal or two in a game so why devote time to that when you can ensure the other team won't score. it can be hard to direct an unstoppable force but once you make an immovable object it's immovable. to be fair England has been really lucky to get to where they have and they probably cant rely on talent bailing them out anymore against the teams left. I think the only way to alleviate the issue would be for massive investment in leagues out of Europe to reduce the financial incentive to go there while also investing more in development. on top of that there needs to be a limit on the amount of games a player can play on a year. this will give national teams time to come up with more innovative tactics and ensures the players are fresher when they actually play. the problem is that this calls for the powers that be to pay a ton of money and cut the amount of games they can profit from. so as a result this wont happen unless they see a dramatic drop-off in viewership which at this stage is unlikely. moreover i fear that should those powers see a drop-off they might construe it to mean they have circumstances necessary to make some kind of "super league" again. Maybe the DOJ might get interested in FIFA and UEFA again and arrest people but for now the captain of the ship thinks that running into the iceberg is better cause at least we'll have one of the biggest money-making films of all time.

Zealand giving a very clear demonstration he has grasped UK sarcasm at the start of the video 😂

Last time any european team won something while playing attractive football is Germany 2014. Attractive football just doesn’t work it's way too risky. In a match between two nearly equal teams the team that's playing safe football will win most of the time. Unless you're better than everyone else by a huge margin like that Germany team it's not worth it. And England or France are not like that. They're not that much better than every other teams.

No dog in this fight. Having said that, I think English football fans have the most unrealistic expectations of the top footballing nations.

Canada and England winning their respective tournaments would make for amazing content here 😂

Can we talk about the fact international football is basically massive mismatches and then low sample size knockout formats? Also southgate exceptionally lucky with draws at major tournaments … low sample size and luck of the draw goes a long long way we aint wrong, its roll of the dice. Making sweeping assumptions on low sample size knockout football is very silly

A game plan that leeds to 120 minutes played and going into a penalty shootout that is always a 50/50 aint a good gameplan

GAME'S GONE

Zealand knows the philosophy within US sports, "Defense wins championships" they say over here, Pep and Mourinho's tactics based on possession and defense respectfully, have changed the game towards this direction. On the other hand I really enjoyed Ralf Rangnick's approach with what he did with Austria in this Euro tournament.

Man i love Bielsa. The Argentinian Ange Postecoglou is genuinely one of the best dudes on earth. A total tactics-chad.

@ritchierich2793

Ай бұрын

Horrible take but Ok..

@jord.an6123

Ай бұрын

@@ritchierich2793 Umm how? This whole video is about how we need more managers who place fan-entertainment and ethos over just simply grinding-out-results Ange and Bielsa are two of the managers in the world that best represent insanely attacking, beautiful football above-all-else. Did i stutter?

@user-fy4mt6pd4j

Ай бұрын

​@@jord.an6123 the Argentinian Ange's one is bad take, because Bielsa is in football before Messi-Ronaldo era.

@jord.an6123

Ай бұрын

@@user-fy4mt6pd4j So was Ange... Dude was managing in the the mid 1990's Messi was in diapers when the guy was cooking, managing day-after-day in a semi-pro-league on the other side of the world, working incredibly hard to ever even get a chance in Europe/pro-football 25-30 years later. Both of them are brilliant, revolutionary, managers - with similar playing styles - who have had to overcome bias and being overlooked for european coaches. Its totally fair to mention them in the same breath

@spinyslasher6586

Ай бұрын

Wrong. Ange is Australian Bielsa. Do not insult Bielsa like this.

Bielsa was our manager (Chilean National Team) in our golden era 15 years ago. I've never seen a Chilean team with more flare, passing, intense and entertaining football than Bielsa's squad. His press conferences were always accurate and full of harsh truth, he has always been a defender of "true" football, that one that is full of joy, beautiful strategies, bust most of all, full of exciment for scoring and make the people chant.

My one saving grace for football, I believe, is often this stuff happens in a cycle. As you were saying at the end, you need someone to reinvigorate the fun parts of the game. I’m a die-hard hockey fan, the NHL, from the early 90s through the mid 00s was incredibly boring, it was just bad hockey, we call it the dead puck era because the rules made it that it was relatively easy to play defense compared to scoring, allowing a lot of obstruction, hooking, holding, etc. The nhl realized that this had to change, so they changed the rules, and suddenly scoring exploded, but the cycle continued, early 2010s a couple great defensive teams won championships and everyone started getting more defensive again, then some teams focused on speed and realized they can beat slow defensive teams with good speed, so right now the league is getting faster and faster and less defensive. So if someone finds a way to beat these defensive teams, they’ll get copied, because sport is inherently a copycat industry.

That's one thing I love about Wilfried Nancy and my hometown team, the Columbus Crew. They may only be an MLS team, but they are so much fun to watch. Nancy also led the team to winning MLS Cup in his first season, so it's winning football, too. I hope the run the team had to the CCC Finals may have opened some eyes that winning football can still be fun to watch.

I feel this is why basketball can never die out, and I'm saying this as a soccer fan. In basketball you are literally forced to get creative, through passing or handles you have to be skillful. This means no matter what it will always be entertaining. Also, being creative and taking on defenders is celebrated and people told to work on their skills instead of playing simple.

I think the England team of the 00's had more individual talent but their egos got in the way massively so they were able to be picked apart and were less well rounded especially on the bench. Not to mention the 2010 World Cup was a bit of a freak show with the Lampard goal that never was, you could easily argue that changed the game completely. I think a lot of the current England players are helped by the fact that they take penalties for their clubs, so they're used to the pressure a penalty brings. But I wouldn't say Southgate is responsible for any of their successes past the 2018 World Cup. They should've realistically won the Euro 2020 final against Italy after basically playing all their matches in front of a home crowd and having a knockout run of a Germany side that was floundering under Joachim Löw, Ukraine and Denmark. Even in the 2018 World Cup they had an easy run until Croatia who on paper they should've still beaten. They say that a team that can grind out a result on their bad days is the hallmark of a league winning side, but every single match England have played in seems to be one of those results, regardless of opposition and when you constantly have to grind out results that's not the mark of a champion, it's the mark of a team that's struggling to keep its head above water.

@Hyde_Hill

Ай бұрын

Nah 2010 Germany was completely outplaying you. That non goal didn't matter.

@spinyslasher6586

Ай бұрын

Exactly. Southgate deserves zero credits. With the squad he has been given, he doesn't need to grind out results against teams like Slovenia.

@andresmartinezramos7513

Ай бұрын

In 2010 even if you had not lost 4-1 to Germany, you were then headed aginst Argentina, then Spain and finally the Netherlands. There was no way that would be a trophy for England.

People seem to forget that England has consistently gotten the easier side of brackets

In Spain I trust

I just love how mbappe and other Europeans talk up their football only to play like this during the Euros

Can you imagine a France v England Euros final, it'll be unwatchable.

This has all come about because of one thing that started with funnily enough: Sam Allardyce. Big Sam was one of the first managers to heavily use statistics to determine how his team should play and approach games. What he found was that the best way to gain points was to play boring defensive football. Either with you controlling the ball or sitting deep. Now with the advent of ease of access to all this information many managers play this way in the top flight, I mean look at the Spanish league after the top eight teams everyone plays terrorist ball. So now this has infected every manager. Including Pep btw with the way his teams play incredibly regimented roles and positions to control the ball, stifle opposition teams and safely win games while dominating. As we know football is cyclical some team will come along playing beautiful expressive football and dominate then teams will copy this by getting their own players who can do that but I think that’s a long way away due to the over coaching of young talent at not just youth academies but also grassroots football. We will need a player who isn’t efficient like a dinho to come onto the scene and tear teams apart again to let the beautiful game become beautiful again.

Zealand is on the run so that he does not have to fix his video background

Buc-EEs hat = automatic video LIKE.

Maybe the Euros should take one inspiration from Copa America and elevate it even further: If France or England play, they should just go to penalties directly. Because them playing the actual game is like a Dementor, it sucks every bit of joy out of everyone who is unfortunate enough to witness it

kinda love the on-the-run shenanigangs xD

Also worth mentioning, West Ham fans were some of the first group of fans to come out against utilitarian, pragmatic football. When we wanted Moyes out because of the quality of football, we were laughed at. "You won a trophy", "be careful what you wish for". Now that its england, its another story.

A slightly different draw and we're sat here talking about Spain and Germany playing attractive football and rolling past these negative teams with ease. This sufferball style isn't superior (people conveniently forget all the teams that play like this and get grouped) it's just that the two national teams with the most talented squads have managers who are cowardly enough to rely on it and scrape by anyway either due to that superior talent, or through a hefty dose of luck.

This time Zealand visits somebodies empty wardrobe.

Man runs away from authorities and still manages to do daily Zealandism. That is what I call dedication

An underrated factor everyone ignores: Englands team might be just tired. Their entire roster except Harry Kane either played through the gruesome Premiere League schedule or was a fixture for the Champions League Winner. And Harry Kane also played in the Champions League Semis. Next you realize, that their bench just isn't any good. Leroy Sané played more Champions League games, than the entire English bench combined. Füllkrug and Can played in the Final. Those were the options, Nagelsmann had. Southgate has a great starting eleven, but unless you are a true Premiere League fan, you have never heard of many of their substitutes. So Southgate has tired players and no real options to bring on reliable fresh players from the bench... So all he can really do, is... playing this safe and solid football and hope for individual moments of genius. It is though to play with effort and speed, if you are just burned out and need a vacation. Meanwhile, Arda Güler, who appears to be the most exciting player, appeared in only 10 league games for Real Madrid. There is a connection.

I think you're right, it's boring right now, but a little bit overdramatic. Playstyle changes very fast in football, Greece won the euros with this tactic years ago, but a lot of other styles have been succesfull too. I'm from Barcelona, our mantra when i was a child was: "This year seems like....", but we always lost until Johan Cruyff came and changed all. Four splendid years, then back to boring again until Ronaldinho. They played so espectacular and beautiful that spend the next two years drinking all the alcohol in the city (looking at you too Deco). So much talent wasted. Then the golden generation, Messi and Pep. Glorious, the best years, changing football over Europe. Then bad years again. It's all back and for, exciting times will come again. Nice videos Zealand.

I feel like this is a curse being a defender. Defenders never get enough credit for the actions they take to make sure their team do not concede and because of what they do, football becomes boring for most because we want to see goals. It's why forwards are looked at so fondly. This is why I loved watching Georgia play. They looked out for each other and attacked in such a way that I couldn't keep my eyes off the screen.

Southgate Ball is the mayonnaise of the football world

@DaxRaider

Ай бұрын

ur american ? because it seems only americans hate on mayonnaise seems american mayonnaise is shit but here everyone eat it with french fries its amazing better then ketchup easy

@muhammad2086

Ай бұрын

That's offensive to mayonnaise.

@normharr

Ай бұрын

@@DaxRaider the mayo I’ve had in America is shit, bland as hell and not good on much of anything imo

@sunnyhvar1992

Ай бұрын

Nah... if Southgate ball was a condiment, it would be water

@Glasstable2011

Ай бұрын

As someone who identifies as a jar of mayonnaise, I find your comment deeply offensive

zealand being a real American with the buc eees hat

I want an England v France final so that I can sleep through the match :)

I mean, personally I'm going to hold off on any damning verdict that ultra controlling, defensive, one dimensional football is the new way until France and England manage to get through the semis against a wonderful Spanish side and a slightly wobbly but certainly capable, especially going forward Dutch side.

I said yesterday to somebody that this Euro/Copa reminds me of the 2010 World Cup, an absolutely unwatchable tournament (aside from the Donovan goal

England had the easy group and/or easy bracket of the knockouts in almost all these tournament The luck of this guy is higher than his 'plan that works' honestly.

I think you hit the nail on the head in that if success is the metric by which you define the quality of a manager, a win is a win is a win, whether it’s 1-0 or 5-3. So whichever tactics provide the highest possibility of that win while minimizing the chance of a negative result will get the biggest rewards. Controlling possession, limiting the opponent to as few quality scoring opportunities as possible, and capitalizing on the best possible chances your side creates is the model that is being repeated and rewarded today.

England and France make the Greek side that defended their way to the Euro 2004 title look like a dynamic risk-taking attacking side. Spain are really fighting for the soul of football here.

If the Euros finals is England vs France we should name that finals as "Battle of the frauds"

@A.MM661

Ай бұрын

That game alone should put pressure FIFA to push for policies that never allow for such abominations of play to happen ever again. Football is supposed to be entertaining...it needs to be entertaining. In the grand scheme of things football is apart of the wider entertainment industry as every sport is. Radical changes that create a "Football V2" are definitely not needed,but Fifa should push for laws that promote advocate and in practice produce more entertaining football,games with more goals and larger chances for goal. That is how you turn football into a fully global sport and conquer north america and a lot of Asia,not through putting people to sleep

Is it football or international tournaments that have these issues? I always see a big difference between the kind that's played at a World Cup or the Continental championships. Maybe it's because these are people who don't play together as often? I realize that there are teams out there in the big leagues that play this type of football and can be successful with it, but I also feel like if you look outside say the Top 6 leagues you won't find it as much. Sadly, those leagues are hardly highlighted.

As an England fan, I must also point out how LUCKY we have been with the draws in the last few major tournaments. We have generally been able to avoid most big teams in the last 3 international tournaments until the latter stages of the tournament, and when we have played the better teams (I.e Croatia semi finals in the 2018 world cup), we've folded. The Netherlands will be the first team we've played this euros that are ranked in the top 15, and considering that we have consistently struggled against teams outside of the top 20s, I can't say I'm too confident about our chances on Wednesday.

I dread when kid started wanting to become wingers instead of proper strikers, I dread when total football went out the window and all we got now are wingers trying to put the ball in front of the goal hoping that a defender is there to headbutt it in. We need proper strikers again, give us real number 10 and 9 back

It's like when we had the ultra low scoring World Cup in 1990 followed up by Denmark somehow winning a major tournament by attempting to score first then passing it around the back and to the keeper to win the game. These two events changed the rules of the game and football was better off for it. I'm not sure what you can change now that's as obvious as the back pass to the keeper rule but surely something has to change.

On issue I think is the mass focus on physicality now, I still think this very common with academies going after the physical beast players who are then pushed to extreme physical limits by modern science. Everyone will be looking for the next Haaland or the next speed demon Mbappe, but how many technically gifted or mentally gifted players may be lost along the way. Not only the Messi's but what about the Pirlos or the Kroos', he technical playmakers or the flair Ronaldinhos or the space investigator like Muller, or a technical genius like Riquelme, or the kind of defender like Maldini or Cannavaro who were never the biggest or quickest but were masters of positioning or reading the game. The kind of players who can do things that don't rely on sheer pace or strength but pull magic from their boots and open up games, how many kids like this are going to get passed by because they are little or can't run 100m in 12s? And then kids growing up don't see those players and don't get inspired by them.

The counterargument for this video and Bielsa can be summed up in one word... Spain.

The manager that brings exitement back to football is going to be Erik Ten Hag. I'm not kidding, mark my words, Z can pin me if he wants. I'm fully convinced his project in Man United will finally succeed.

It actually would be a really interesting question to get a genuine honest answer from fans about: Would you rather your team be making deep cup runs consistently but play very boring soccer, or have far more variance in results while playing highly entertaining soccer?

@carlito6038

Ай бұрын

FOOTBALL. it is called football. jesus christ it is not hard

@HooverJ.Bankbean

Ай бұрын

England would have an even easier time making these deep runs if their manager actually utilized his players properly instead of opting to percentageball and praying to gods.

@e_eyster

Ай бұрын

@@carlito6038 "It" should be capitalized. "Jesus" should be capitalized. "Christ" should be capitalized. There should be a period after "hard". Jesus Christ it is not hard.

@loganleroy8622

Ай бұрын

@@carlito6038 It's called Association Football, mate. If you're going to be so pedantic about it. There's loads of different codes of Football. Soccer is just another term to ensure everyone knows which code of Football is being discussed.

@crediblesalamander8056

Ай бұрын

​@@loganleroy8622spotted the aussie

I wouldn’t say he has a system. He’s just got a quality players that bail him out at clutch moments. Coming from a Scotsman. This England team on paper is absolutely phenomenal and they’re playing like that

what is this background called

I just am irritated bc Southgate and Berhalter being equally frustrating and unambitious was something I took comfort in as an American, and now he’s failing up while we’re failing down and ughhhh

@upisntdownsilly

Ай бұрын

honestly the opponents youve lost to arent that much worse than the ones england have narrowly beaten, the england tactics might be awful, arguably worse than the americans right now, at least the usmnt is able to produce a cohesive team goal or two that isnt out of nowhere, but at the end of the day you could randomly generate all the england players' positions and still have an ok side, theres just that much talent in the squad, you wont see pulisic scoring a last minute bicycle kick thats for sure, he's an amazing player, and usmnt have several other great players too, but at the end of the day its unlikely that any of them would get into an england-usmnt combined 11

what teams did england play while southgate was in charge?

If you isolate Southgate in a lab, he ends up getting Middlesboro relegated and subsequently sacked. If the guy earnt the job no-one could argue his position.

I’m holding onto belief that it’s just a pendulum swing. Fingers crossed coaches like Ange, Fabian Hürzeler, Thiago Motta, etc can bring new excitement and evolution to the game

This Euros is the first time I've watched full games since the World Cup, because for me football reached the tipping point of boring several years ago. Not to mention how boring and infuriating it is to watch teams like City, Bayern and Real win time and time again with no real competion. The players are worn out from too many games, and the team owners only care about results, not about providing entertainment. At this point I only watch the last half-hour of games, because at that point at least one of the teams will start actually attacking...

This isnt new...this has happened for decades.

As an english person, i am prepared to ruin football to win a tournament. Once we've done that then ill throw all my weight behind this opinion though

@bugchallin

Ай бұрын

Entertaining football is a luxury that England can’t afford until they win a trophy lmao

Zealand, does the style work? - yes maybe but we're not looking at the whole picture. Alternatively, is it just a matter that the skill gap is so much greater than the opposition. Turkey can't play that way and get a result, Slovenia is unable to play that way to get a result, and so on. I think it may also be important to note that these major tournaments are including more teams than ever before and therefore the chance of a mismatch on pure skill is much greater

I mean, the problem is that penalties aren't a random lottery. You can be good at penalties and win most of your shootouts. If that wasn't the case, all teams would have near enough a 50% win rate on penalties. That isn't the case. So once you back yourself to win penalties, you can go, right, lets set up so that worst case scenario, we go to penalties. I don't think its a case that most of these teams are deliberately playing for penalties, but they are perfectly prepared to do so. They are putting the onus on the other team to come out and attack them. Because ultimately, if you push forward to attack, you leave space and are vunerable to being attacked yourself. The problem is that what you end up with is teams basically spending most the match sitting there playing fucking chicken with each other. People will pile on England, but its not like any of the other teams they have beaten have playing dynamic free flowing football either. Its a bigger problem in international football because its knockout. In a league, you have to play a bit more dynamically because alot of the time its actually the draws that kill you. Its worth gambling to turn 5 draws into 3 wins and 2 loses, because its 9 points vs 5. In knockout football, the 3 wins are irrelevant, the loss kicked you out and you can win the draws on penalties.

As far as i’m concerned, England could play like prime Stoke City long ball era, win a championship and i would personally be absolutely delighted

@korganrocks3995

Ай бұрын

Prime Stoke City was a fun team to watch compared to these modern teams. As a United fan, I don't miss the trophies nearly as much as I miss being entertained while watching my team play. A trophy feels amazing for the first few minutes(or hours if you're out with other fans), but it fades remarkably fast. It's not worth sitting through hours and hours of boring football all tournament/season.

Unless theres a major rule change around hoarding possession like a shot clock or half court violations, i dont see any of this changing. You play to win the game, and playing ultra passively has shown to win more games in the long term. Teams will not move off this without rule changes