Football but you get MORE points for LOSING

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Welcome to TomFM! In today's Football Manager 2024 experiment video we're trying to answer the question What If Football Teams Got More Points For LOSING? We're using FM24 to try and find out!
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  • @maxinnes8229
    @maxinnes82296 ай бұрын

    Man is really trying to force Lincoln to the prem

  • @MattAyresOfficial

    @MattAyresOfficial

    6 ай бұрын

    😅

  • @TomFM

    @TomFM

    6 ай бұрын

    You caught me 💀

  • @maxinnes8229

    @maxinnes8229

    6 ай бұрын

    @@TomFMI’m a York fan… looks like we stayed in the conference the whole time… which makes us one the most consistently good teams? Or bad? Idk I’m lost

  • @rocho9287

    @rocho9287

    6 ай бұрын

    don't know. we,re in relegation possibility@@maxinnes8229

  • @LukeCarey11

    @LukeCarey11

    6 ай бұрын

    Ha ha

  • @f1peter27
    @f1peter276 ай бұрын

    What would really be interesting is the same number of points for a win, draw or loss. Leagues would then be decided on goal difference only.

  • @Nom_Editz0

    @Nom_Editz0

    4 ай бұрын

    Ok

  • @NLPeditz

    @NLPeditz

    3 ай бұрын

    Ok

  • @f1peter27

    @f1peter27

    3 ай бұрын

    @@NLPeditzOk

  • @lucarasic8001

    @lucarasic8001

    3 ай бұрын

    ​​@@f1peter27Ok

  • @andic648

    @andic648

    3 ай бұрын

    Nice

  • @joshuaroberts8101
    @joshuaroberts81016 ай бұрын

    In this scenario, do managers lose their job for poor league positioning, or keep it with good performances and high player morale?

  • @amethyphoenix

    @amethyphoenix

    6 ай бұрын

    Likely due to "poor" league positioning because the team is too good and they're getting relegated like crazy

  • @user-yu7pz1fl4l
    @user-yu7pz1fl4l6 ай бұрын

    I think it would be super cool to be doing this save as a user, where you could play a like inverted side or god awful tactic in the league and then try and do a quad by trying in both domestic cups and in europe.

  • @TopiiTank
    @TopiiTank6 ай бұрын

    I think a cool experiment would be doing this for 50 years and then flipping it back to normal and seeing how it changes where the teams are in the end.

  • @spiderextremegamertamonois
    @spiderextremegamertamonois6 ай бұрын

    I really like this idea but I think it'd be way more interesting if you made a video being the manager of a terrible English team and a brilliant English team (man city probably) going through the season like this. I'm so curious what the board would think if you won every match but got relegated and whether you'd be sacked for losing 10 matches in a row or they'd love you for taking the team to the top of the league. It'd be so chaotic and I'd love to see that. Either way, great video as always, hope you upload the next Saint Etienne video soon!

  • @woolie118
    @woolie1186 ай бұрын

    Love your concepts dude. You are crushing the football manager scene

  • @danbradford7127
    @danbradford71276 ай бұрын

    This was incredibly entertaining! Could you do one for draws too?

  • @MLong87
    @MLong876 ай бұрын

    Would really love to see this across the top few leagues in Europe to see how the Champions League/Europa League changes across that time.

  • @patrickayoub7058
    @patrickayoub70586 ай бұрын

    Anybody noticed that in season 85 (9:27) Northampton got crowned champions despite finishing 2nd in the PL with 4 points less than Southend? Why's that?

  • @diesel9324
    @diesel93246 ай бұрын

    Assign the same values for wins and losses but increase the value for draws.

  • @nathanb286
    @nathanb2866 ай бұрын

    I can’t believe that 10 seasons in, Burnley still weren’t good enough to get relegated from the prem

  • @adzter96
    @adzter965 ай бұрын

    I wonder what happened to the managers, did they get fired for constantly getting relegated or keep their jobs because they kept winning matches?

  • @MattAyresOfficial
    @MattAyresOfficial6 ай бұрын

    Your ideas get better and better

  • @FozzQuaker
    @FozzQuaker6 ай бұрын

    10:20 The Alan Shearer Arena...Newcastle or Blackburn, I'd understand, but Wolverhampton... I love the randomness of new Stadium names in this game

  • @ava_y0

    @ava_y0

    5 ай бұрын

    wait that’s really weird 😭

  • @Toboloco
    @Toboloco6 ай бұрын

    Finally Yeovil won something in these sims 😄

  • @richie74wells
    @richie74wells6 ай бұрын

    What if you did the scoring system like in rugby, 4 points for a win plus an extra bonus point for a certain amount of goals scored

  • @tyler.e7581
    @tyler.e75816 ай бұрын

    the reputation is making me wonder, what would happen if you maxed out a national league teams reputation and see what players they end up signing. could be interesting for a video

  • @3xrstudio
    @3xrstudio6 ай бұрын

    Did you happen to check in about season 3 who was being picked for England? was it the regulars with better abilities or players in the prem?

  • @jonathanroyston-claire9930
    @jonathanroyston-claire99306 ай бұрын

    Honestly 4 mins in and have such a headache but I’m living for it

  • @mexicorolls
    @mexicorolls6 ай бұрын

    Do this again and then after say 15-20 years switch it back and see if the top teams can come back!

  • @TheNakedMike
    @TheNakedMike2 ай бұрын

    I need to know about that Aberdeen team. Please do a short.

  • @indiw1x
    @indiw1x6 ай бұрын

    We need the annual Wales sponsor deal video especially because I just saw TNS getting into the cl group stage at 9:50

  • @fifa8054
    @fifa80546 ай бұрын

    Love to see Nantwich town in their battering the fa cup right now !

  • @nobbymorph
    @nobbymorph3 ай бұрын

    That completely did my head in, it is still reeling...

  • @NurDerDolphin
    @NurDerDolphin4 ай бұрын

    I wonder if a manager gets sacked or not. Since you are losing every game, the board should get impatient and sack you, but how much does the league position matter, because you would be top

  • @carlosmattessich3883
    @carlosmattessich38832 ай бұрын

    “You get more points for losing” San Marino: *My time has come*

  • @CJApps87
    @CJApps876 ай бұрын

    That Kidderminster graph was amazing!

  • @alexanderscalzo98
    @alexanderscalzo986 ай бұрын

    As a life long Orlando Magic fan I did not expect to see a jersey on an FM KZreadr. Did you pick it up on vacation?

  • @CAPlayz
    @CAPlayz3 ай бұрын

    Morecambe is my local club and i love seeing them dominating for the first time

  • @scottwalker4619
    @scottwalker46196 ай бұрын

    As a Carlisle fan, I see this as an absolute win and think we should petition to FIFA to change to these new laws

  • @kieranlowcock6905
    @kieranlowcock69056 ай бұрын

    Try and make every team play the same formation with minimum defenders and mid and loads of attackers, I tried it on Fifa years ago and the results were insane😂😂😂

  • @rxfiqyx37
    @rxfiqyx376 ай бұрын

    just think about this : Pep Guardiola dominated the Premier League winning loads of games, but he gets sacked for not losing enough. Meanwhile, Paul Heckingbottom plays like Prime 2011 Derby but gets hailed a king for winning the prem.

  • @agusganji
    @agusganji6 ай бұрын

    Funniest experiment yet, great video 🎉

  • @jasonbutton840
    @jasonbutton8406 ай бұрын

    As an Ebbsfleet United fan I've been waiting for a save where the club is mentioned as a major part of the narrative. Can't believe it's this one 😂

  • @SamButler22
    @SamButler226 ай бұрын

    Bolton plummeting through the leagues here just proves how good we are?

  • @blmn201249
    @blmn2012496 ай бұрын

    If only derby had this in 07/08

  • @EuanBCFC
    @EuanBCFC6 ай бұрын

    So we (Bristol City) finally do well on an experiment, but it’s because we were so bad we were then able to get to good enough to be relegated? I’m not even shocked

  • @MattAyresOfficial
    @MattAyresOfficial6 ай бұрын

    The first season is typical Cheltenham Town

  • @fletchergracie3992
    @fletchergracie39923 ай бұрын

    Id love to see id you put the points back to normal after 20 years and simulated it

  • @freddiewells9922
    @freddiewells99226 ай бұрын

    Definitely one of your best experiments yet 👌🏻

  • @HCMCDrives

    @HCMCDrives

    6 ай бұрын

    Shame he didn't credit the guy who inspired this with his made database last week.

  • @matthewbless3335
    @matthewbless33356 ай бұрын

    Everton having a top 3 season only for it to result in them being relegated is the most Everton thing ever

  • @Universal-h9y
    @Universal-h9y6 ай бұрын

    I can imagine the number of coaches getting sacked because of winning and getting relegated😂😂

  • @numchacar
    @numchacar6 ай бұрын

    what you should do is sim it 100 years then do another 100 years but reverting it back to 3 points for a win and 0 for a loss and see if any top teams can make it back to top of the prem

  • @jaydg735
    @jaydg7356 ай бұрын

    Even with a lose being more rewarding than a win, it’s guts me to see that Birmingham are still in the Championship lol

  • @sycroyoutube
    @sycroyoutube6 ай бұрын

    8:31 crazy to see long eaton there, i live near! 😅

  • @ollieconnors6578
    @ollieconnors65786 ай бұрын

    FOUR STRAIGHT RELEGATIONS, YOU’LL NEVER SING THAT

  • @16ozClawHammer
    @16ozClawHammer4 ай бұрын

    'Liverpool are stuck in some kind of weird purgatory'. Long may it continue.

  • @Adam-mo7hb
    @Adam-mo7hb6 ай бұрын

    Kiddy is massive! 🤣 fun fact, a Premier League winning captain has played for us, Wes Morgan! On loan in the 02/03 season I believe

  • @shanelenham8736
    @shanelenham87366 ай бұрын

    How Did Kidderminster Win the title in 2nd? 🤔

  • @ravenshade266
    @ravenshade2666 ай бұрын

    As a Fleetwood fan, I’m not sure whether I should rejoice or be saddened by the outcome of the experiment.

  • @CR1LLE710
    @CR1LLE7106 ай бұрын

    Theese videos get more interesting every time!

  • @Mr_Aviation4555
    @Mr_Aviation455526 күн бұрын

    You get more points if you win. Leverkusen: AHH WHAT THE F*CK MAN?!

  • @TheWolfXCIX
    @TheWolfXCIX6 ай бұрын

    Are you going to do that 20 league nightmare save from Reddit?

  • @DuskKaiser
    @DuskKaiser6 ай бұрын

    Will you be trying the Worst Database shared on Steam? Although the creator said he needs to fix some things so it works properly

  • @thenameplus431
    @thenameplus4316 ай бұрын

    Come on!!!! Been waiting for this

  • @Ninja_Aubergine
    @Ninja_Aubergine6 ай бұрын

    As a Carlisle fan, 3:04 is something I'd love to see one day!

  • @luisgalizien

    @luisgalizien

    6 ай бұрын

    I think that dream will sadly never be real my friend. 😅

  • @macario8836

    @macario8836

    6 ай бұрын

    You want to see them losing 26 out of 38 matches in a season? I don't think it should be too hard for them right just now!

  • @johnboyhowell
    @johnboyhowell6 ай бұрын

    FA cup winners would have been interesting to see. Especially in the first 10 years.

  • @Thecoolestmubby
    @Thecoolestmubby4 ай бұрын

    Being a Swindon Town that I've never been more proud 🙂

  • @silverlining836
    @silverlining8363 ай бұрын

    10:20 Anyone else notice the Alan Shearer Arena in Wolverhampton?

  • @englishdragon88
    @englishdragon886 ай бұрын

    Yay you mentioned my club Crawley Town

  • @FORZAPOTENZA
    @FORZAPOTENZA6 ай бұрын

    I think the algorithm for job security for managers would implode with this...

  • @jakovgrbesa6400
    @jakovgrbesa64006 ай бұрын

    9:24 Weston Super Mare in 6th.

  • @Glethil
    @Glethil2 ай бұрын

    As a Chelsea fan I see this as an absolute win

  • @AJT-gj6mi
    @AJT-gj6mi6 ай бұрын

    Could do the same points as an Ice Hockey game including extra time

  • @kipzonderkop1994
    @kipzonderkop19946 ай бұрын

    This is essentially making the pyramid upside down but with more steps 😂

  • @Connorisgud
    @Connorisgud6 ай бұрын

    Everytime I watch Tom I always check in his videos my home town club altrincham

  • @FozzQuaker
    @FozzQuaker6 ай бұрын

    9:22 Great to see Darlo in the Premier League, even if we are in the top 10 worst teams lol

  • @rolef6084
    @rolef60846 ай бұрын

    Tottenham getting conference league while getting relegated from the championship is funny af 😂

  • @rolef6084

    @rolef6084

    6 ай бұрын

    Nvm wolves in season 10 ☠️

  • @aidanw9378
    @aidanw93786 ай бұрын

    0:45 the only way Man U could beat the rest of the big 6

  • @Schlinx619
    @Schlinx6196 ай бұрын

    That hurt my head.

  • @saoirsedeltufo7436
    @saoirsedeltufo74366 ай бұрын

    3:27 Kidderminster came second but are crowned champions??

  • @joshjohnson9976
    @joshjohnson99766 ай бұрын

    The yo-yo of huddersfield was mad 😂

  • @hugh.g.rection5906
    @hugh.g.rection59066 ай бұрын

    3:27 think something went wrong here. 2nd place crowned as champions

  • @pankajshahane7909
    @pankajshahane79096 ай бұрын

    My mind can’t comprehend all the details 😂

  • @DynoKea
    @DynoKea6 ай бұрын

    2:22 Spurs going to Europe and L1 3:24 Spurs going to Europe and L2

  • @isaacbobjork7053
    @isaacbobjork70533 ай бұрын

    Imagine how the games would look if you had to lose the games to win the league. Lots of own goals probably

  • @MovieNationyt
    @MovieNationyt6 ай бұрын

    Try doing the experiment with losses first and then wins mafter ten seasons what happens

  • @gamerkat99
    @gamerkat996 ай бұрын

    Make EVERYTHING reward points

  • @TheSparty301
    @TheSparty3014 ай бұрын

    I really wanted to see who was winning the FA cup. If good teams were at the lower leagues, were lower leagues winning the cup. On the other hand the best players still want to go to the prem, so maybe the prem still wins. curious

  • @ashleynewman3360
    @ashleynewman33605 ай бұрын

    As a Carlisle fan, I 'like' this.

  • @danielyavari6623
    @danielyavari66233 ай бұрын

    At 9:25 newcastle is also in premier league not luton and southhampton

  • @TheStuartGibson
    @TheStuartGibson6 ай бұрын

    I want to know how many managers the champions get? do clubs sack them for losses or do they realise that they are getting points?

  • @Ak93T
    @Ak93T6 ай бұрын

    The one time Aldershot do well in a simulation... and still get relegated

  • @fifa_tipss
    @fifa_tipss8 күн бұрын

    How do you do this

  • @efthimischrtk
    @efthimischrtk6 ай бұрын

    Now do it for all of the leagues in Europe

  • @denektelinus7583
    @denektelinus75836 ай бұрын

    Can you do THE same with all of THE other leagues

  • @N0rmalD1ff1cultyFace
    @N0rmalD1ff1cultyFaceАй бұрын

    5:35 burnley 💀 7:08 ikeston 10 points 40 losses

  • @CharlieMartinez-xe7nr
    @CharlieMartinez-xe7nr4 ай бұрын

    What app do you use to get the tables

  • @anglo-aspidmapping8870

    @anglo-aspidmapping8870

    4 ай бұрын

    It’s a pc game called football manager

  • @BenBalProductions
    @BenBalProductions6 ай бұрын

    But who got fired? The losing manager being on top of the league or the best being relegated?

  • @COYG4949
    @COYG49494 ай бұрын

    As a arsenal fan and Kidderminster fan idk how to feel

  • @fifagoalsmaster
    @fifagoalsmaster6 ай бұрын

    Finally a video where cambridge united make the premier league and champions league ❤

  • @Driftty
    @Driftty6 ай бұрын

    Alternative title: what would happen if the best league was the national league

  • @jahames556
    @jahames5566 ай бұрын

    Haven’t watched the video yet but I’m a blades fan 🥳

  • @AshManTV92
    @AshManTV926 ай бұрын

    03:26 how come 2nd place Kiddy are champions?

  • @mateuszstepniewski5954
    @mateuszstepniewski59546 ай бұрын

    Quality video as always but, i dont like it because the fact that the winners get relegated is just hurting my head😂😂

  • @nnspenaz2343
    @nnspenaz23432 ай бұрын

    Never did I think I would be disappointed to hear Northampton in the championship

  • @JN1.
    @JN1.4 ай бұрын

    Alan shearer arena in wolves😂

  • @lostupover
    @lostupover6 ай бұрын

    This is just like at my job...the worst performers get promoted :)

  • @josheditzzzz
    @josheditzzzz3 ай бұрын

    whats the app

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