One thing I forgot to mention is people might think hyperbloom powercrept things. And I do think it’s a factor. In fact I made a whole video on it here. I think you could say it powecrept the floor, rather than the ceiling, and brought a lot of worse units up. Similar to what I said about Furina except Furina also powercreep ceiling lol. Hyperbloom video here: 5 Reasons Why Hyperbloom Is Evil (and 5 reasons it's your savior) kzread.info/dash/bejne/ioxtu6N8XbPekqQ.html

@a-passerby

6 ай бұрын

Would u make an updated Nahida Guide? I wanted to know if Golden Troupe is good for her or Gilded or just Deepwood, then there is artifacts main stats like whether full em, em-dendro-em, em-em-crit, em-dendro-crit etc..... If u heard about it, Nahida is said to rerun in 4.4 Phase 1, so maybe if ur interested....🤞

@leonardomeloni69

6 ай бұрын

sorry but Gilded Dreams has never been her best set, unless you run her as on field dps with another dendro, which is very unnecessary for her And no, you wouldnt use Golden troupe on her. Deepwood if she's solo dendro or if she's the support is so much better@@a-passerby

@a-passerby

6 ай бұрын

@@leonardomeloni69 I guess so too, She's not onfield in my playstyle, so Gilded is off the talk, but it's said that GT deals more dmg than any other set for her, I do like big numbers from Nahida ( she does 50k ticks on avg for now, Em-Dendro-Crit build, DM set), just wanted to know what's better than that, Teams - Alhaitham, XQ, Kuki, Nahida or Neuvillette,Furina, Raiden, Nahida or Ganyu, Bennett, Kazuha, Nahida

@Ash-xx4nq

6 ай бұрын

Your videos overselling Furina. She is not really above other character. She is not weak but not the uncontested best character how ur videos shows her. (For c0 f2p or wekin lvl investment).

@leonardomeloni69

6 ай бұрын

Obviously Deepwood is better on Nahida@@a-passerby

Was so flabnergasted when i came back from my break to see neuvillette doing unbelievable damage thought it was a hack 😭

@Ronttt

6 ай бұрын

True 😭, it's so weird to see. Also it makes me sad how Wrio is not mentioned at the start even though he is my favorite character, why do I always hurt myself by liking characters no one talks about 😭😭

@wswann34

6 ай бұрын

Mans so overpowered he don't even have a team comp

@alexferrier5732

6 ай бұрын

​​​@@Ronttt Wrio is busted af on his melt teams at C0, and is a one man army at C1 just like Neuv, but he excels at single target dmg whereas Neuv at AoE. He is also top 3 characters to do solo runs with at C1, his self sustain and never ending DPS Windows is crazy, dude has basically no downtime on his DPS, even solo Neuv has to take a small break when everything is on CD and no orbs, having to manually charge his CA which takes ages. People don't talk much about Wrio cause he becomes busted at C1, when he coulda been that at C0, but Hoyo messed up there. But don't be fooled to think he is weak. He is already the king of melt, whereas Ayaka the Queen of freeze, Ganyu can do both but doesnt excel at one. I also think people won't give him the title of best cryo DPS in the game cause his direct competition, Ayaka has a massive fanbase, but me personally I think he already surpasses Ayaka, due to how flexible he is, you can run every team with this guy, melt, freeze, mono, dendro, he does it all whereas Ayaka is locked to play freeze (but she is the best at that). I could be biased cause he is one of my mains, but also I do know all his strenghts and his only one weakness very well. Dude hasnt let me down once in abyss ever since I got him, and gave me impressive abyss clearing personal records that I couldnt do with other chars.

@santiagojrbaluyot7869

6 ай бұрын

People do breaks?

@csm3825

5 ай бұрын

​@@alexferrier5732 I agree. Even if you don't activate his elemental skill his charged attack brings an absolute power punch. What I like is that I don't need to sprint just to apply Cryo in weapons or wait for 10 seconds for elemental skill. And additionally I don't need to plunge just to mine ores, I could just beat the crap out of it.

In my opinion I think Neuvillette is the only one I consider true power creep. Other characters have different enough quirks in their kit that can really make or break a lot of strong teams in very situations. Meanwhile Neuvillette wins as long as the enemies aren’t hydro 💀

@skyfires4498

6 ай бұрын

Even against cryo and electro shields.?

@skyfires4498

6 ай бұрын

I thought hydro was weak against a lot of elemental shields other than pyro

@SWPIGWANG

6 ай бұрын

​@@skyfires4498 C0R0 Neuvillette vape team calced 90k dps if you can manage to vape off guoba. (still vastly easier than sukokumon) You can just run fischl against cyro and layla/ganyu against electro or something if you don't want to work for it. At C3R1+ speedruns the other characters don't even get swapped out in most wave because it is a time loss, so you can fit another entire team in with no time loss at all. Current speedrun at 24seconds combined for all 3 chambers in 2nd half. He also clears top half hydro enemy in under a minute combined, being able to slot in hutao and xiangling in the remaining team slots only to swap out for chamber 3.

@smasher_zed8888

6 ай бұрын

he can still destroy them hes just stronger against pyro shields​@@skyfires4498

@see0707

6 ай бұрын

​@@skyfires4498 Yeah only pyro lectors are weak against him, electro cryo and hydro heralds/lectors are his weakness

I truly think Neuvilette is the only true powercreep character. Its kinda hard to powercreep supports when they all do specific things, even furina relys on healers. Neuv is just unconditional damage with insane self sustain and aoe. His goal is strictly damage and he beats everyone at it. There are teams that can probably match him but as a standalone unit hes absolutely busted and powercreep incarnate.

@ABC-yj6cy

6 ай бұрын

All DPS: I need a team to support me Neuv: I am the team

@engindechantier4249

6 ай бұрын

Furina's personnal damages are so huge and her buff is so big that her value is 1.5 character in one even when you count her need of a healer

@MrDSkinny

6 ай бұрын

@@engindechantier4249 her damage is crazy but at the cost of your teams hp. Plus her healer mode doesn't apply hydro, probably specifically to avoid powercreeping kokomi.

@viedralavinova8266

6 ай бұрын

Neuvillette is literally the Hydro Sovereign. That's literally what he was designed and written to be. People cry about him being power creep, but the only character archetype of similar power we will get like him is another Sovereign. (Or perhaps another descender like Phanes or something, which are are supposedly more powerful than the Sovereigns)

@qwertysysysyysysysyzz

6 ай бұрын

damage wise? hutao still beats him and alhaitham as well

It's comically messed up. In any combat event, you can either use your other teams, set rotations up and try to get the highest medals or just use your Neuvi team, hold a button and watch as you get all the medals while enemies die the moment they spawn.

@WastedTalent83

6 ай бұрын

did someone force you to pull or use neuvillette? i don't get where is the problem... If you like to challenge yourself.. don't use him. how can you see it as a problem? Its like complaining bennet exist, or food buff exist, and then using them every day.. Don't use them if you think they make the game too easy no?

@Maxbillion.

6 ай бұрын

@@WastedTalent83 Because fun is subjective and many people don't find handicapping themselves fun.

@AliJan-ju9pi

6 ай бұрын

Can you elaborate please? Personally for me with prototype amber he isn't as broken. Is it because I am using an hp goblet on him?

@wig84

6 ай бұрын

@@WastedTalent83 ..because pulling for a character you enjoy, then finding out another one just came out that can do everything better is *not* a good experience, believe it or not

@WastedTalent83

6 ай бұрын

@@wig84 why tho? do you enjoy your character LESS? because another is stronger? that's all in your brain.. its not like your character suddenly became weaker. You just see it negatively, but there is nothing negative about it.. a new characters is stronger..so? do you lose in pvp against someone? did you lost some magical ranking places? No its just you feeling bad for absolutely zero reason. Following this reasoning, once you find a food you like, you never want another food to be better, otherwise the previous one will taste worse? wtf?XD

You know, another crazy thing that's happened with Fontaine characters especially, is that the sound and visual design of their abilities end up making them FEEL much enjoyable and impressive to play as well. Like, the particle effects, the hum of power, and the rune being drawn in front of Neuvillette as his charges up his hydro cannon just look and feels cool as hell. Chevruese's gunshot while she yells "Last chance!" feels more impactful when you let that explosive charge fly. All the other bursts, explosions, thumps, rain of damage, particle effect and general visual and audible impact that actually changes the looks of the character and battlefield as you play also heavily influences how fun something seems in the moment. Fontaine characters seem to be on another level when it comes to that visceral impact, though maybe that's just me. It's not something I can actually apply any real numerical value to and those things are heavily dependent on your aesthetic sense, but... certainly feels like it's on a different level to me...

@JelloImpact

6 ай бұрын

I think so too. Certain old characters like raiden imo have this but with Fontaine it’s like every one

@alexferrier5732

6 ай бұрын

Yep, thats what I feel when I play Wrio, his punch sound effects are so satisfying, also his animations are amazing, dude came up with a full new moveset (boxing) which is definitely out of the main 5 archetypes (bow, greatsword, sword, spear, catalyst), very few characters are out of those archetypes like Childe (daggers), Heizou (martial arts), Kaz, Raiden and Ayaka (katana), Neuv (beam) from the top of my mind.

Neuv dmg would not be considered insane if he was single target character but the fact that he can cover the whole floor of abyss is just stupid. C0 R1 Neuv can solo abyss as long as the enemy isn't resistance to hydro which considered as near impossible before with few exception and his full team is not only super powerful but also extremely flexible I don't mind having new character breaking record as long as they have their drawback like Hu Tao struggling in AOE scenario while managing her HP or Xiao and Ganyu being rather clunky and have their own issue while Neuv is just OP against anything that is not hydro res

@alexferrier5732

6 ай бұрын

I recall there was a point in beta when Neuv couldnt move while using the beam, only rotate, but testers said he felt very clunky. That was the perfect weakness for him, his AoE wouldnt feel as powerful if he could only rotate since he wouldnt been able to re-align himself in the enemy direction, but he would still have retained some AoE capabilities. But hey, blame the testers who didnt think it was ridiculous that a character that had massive single target dmg also had massive AoE capabilities.

@io2900

6 ай бұрын

​@@alexferrier5732 Being stationary don't make him anyless aoe. People can and are increasing their mouse sensitivity and spin. Making him standing still just make him clunky in overworld

@alexferrier5732

6 ай бұрын

@@io2900 Well it is just something I heard, it doesnt matter at this point.

@zeromailss

5 ай бұрын

@@alexferrier5732 or you know, they could just reduce his number a bit or decrease the dmg for enemies beyond a certain range or have dmg tic limit/second. Having broken chara is as bad as having useless chara, people will lean toward or away from them beyond personal preference

Can't wait for the Aztec and Maya Gigachads of Natlan to get added, especially if a pyro sovereign gets added!

@ayyjay1575

6 ай бұрын

And sovereigns SHOULD BE BROKEN

@ohlawd8135

6 ай бұрын

@@ayyjay1575yeah I agree with you on that one for sure 👍. The sovereigns lore wise are stronger than archons so they should break the game

@exploreevery

6 ай бұрын

🙂 f2p primos

@No__Vanity

6 ай бұрын

@@exploreeverybruh you have like 2 years to save for that

@catcatcat8

6 ай бұрын

I would love to see more sovereigns tbh. I also have a sneaking suspicion that this is why archons are (mostly) supports

Powercreep is a natural progression for basically every live service game. The expectation should never be "this character is so good that it is impossible to powercreep." Even with genshin, there had been many times a specific unit was greatly hyped just for mihoyo to bait people with the new "best." If you are ever fixated with pulling the "most meta" units, do know that Neuvillette will eventually become a stepping stone for the new "best," just like ganyu, raiden, and alhaitham.

@lazyremnant380

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, I started to see some peoples and videos trashing Ayaka, which would've been unbelievable 2 or 1 years ago. I think come Natlan or Snezhnaya at most, Neuvillette will experience the same thing.

@viedralavinova8266

6 ай бұрын

Raiden is an Archon, and Neuvillette is a Sovereign. Not really comparable

@Mr_DE_0395

6 ай бұрын

No it is not, not in genshin at least, to quote myself : "If anyone say this is inevitable, then No it is not, it is unacceptable. Now powercreep only make sense if we have content harder, needing more damage to justify it. But for a game that has 0 combat content update for 4 years straight, it is unacceptable to even Have powercreep. And neuvi is not just the first powercreep, it has been here since dendro. Again, if you say it is for new player to get into the game , sure, then what's the point of even build ANY character up ? Just go for dendro and call it a day, and because of dendro they now have to level up the dps damage higher to compete with a broken ass element. Going back to my first point, it is completely unacceptable, that a billion dollar company that doesn't know wtf they're doing with their game, making powercreep in a game that has no content to back it up, it's pathetic."

@voii0777

6 ай бұрын

​​@@lazyremnant380Considering nobody is trashing Al Haitham, I highly doubt it.

@isgonnabeagreatyear

6 ай бұрын

@@Mr_DE_0395​except dendro teams have the majority of their dmg coming out of double hydro/alhaitham/electro units. abyss has gotten harder over the years, the problem is artifact quality has also gone up a lot. better artifacts + better characters make the abyss easier, but I know for a fact you mfs are those who cried about “cringe enemies” when the difficulty goes up a bit.

Powercreep is inevitable, but im glad it took this long to start making an appearance. Also i do like the fact that you made a point about how early constellations have more value now than ever, because for f2p it's sorta like who cares. Obviously some 5 stars perform better than other's innately, but i would make a generalization and say most 5 star units at C0 with f2p/bp weapons dont perform too absurdly out of reach of eachother. It really is only when u start looking at the signature weapons and constellations when it shows how "optimal" the stats have gotten for these things. I am excited for the route Fontaine is taking with breaking standard team philosophy. (Mono Pyro, True Hydro Carry, conditional buffer via external healer, weaponizing crystallize, overload synergy) Cant wait to see what the latter half of 4.x will be setting up in terms of meta, im guessing self applied character infusion (Bennett Burst, Jean Burst, Dori Burst) purely because of that new BP Claymore that makes no goddamm sense rn, but im optimistic about my idea.

@sutkonos

6 ай бұрын

how is lyney breaking mono pyro philosophy though

@domiansso

6 ай бұрын

@sutkonos he's not breaking the philosophy of Mono Pyro, he's just designed to be played in Mono Pyro to the point of making Pyro's strongest reactions (Melt and Vaporize) obsolete on him, and by far is the best on fielder for a Mono Pyro team. Mono Pyro for awhile wasn't a mainstream teamcomp, it was viable, but it wasn't mainstream like Vaporize, Freeze, Hyperbloom. Hope I gave you a satisfactory answer.

I argue that powercreep is more like a supply problem; it's effectively dropping the price of a certain level of power by introducing more available account power for a certain amount of pulls; given that there's no objective, long-term in-game demand for that increased power (ie. higher game difficulty, more modes - think Pure Fiction in HSR) - any problem perceived is really based on relative ranking (ie. player anxiety), which is more of a tautological existence (there will always be some1 who is SSS tier at any point)

@alexanderericson8628

6 ай бұрын

This is the accurate definition

I really appreciate that you recommended new players focus on getting their favorite characters and building those characters' best teams. As someone who plays gacha games wanting to be able to play the characters I'm actually fond of, it always feels bad when meta players imply I'm playing the game less seriously because I'm not just trying to play the most meta units all the time.

@studiesinflux1304

6 ай бұрын

Genshin still allows you to clear with older units, but I’d caution against trying that with other software that is gacha first, game second. With Genshin, I can at least be relatively sure that if I continue building my Ayato despite Neuvilette (and more later) existing, I’ll still be able to use him in the 6.0 Abyss if he’s upgraded to his non-whale ceiling. A gacha app (I won’t call it a game) that died a while back had such hilariously bad powercreep that every second patch you’d look for a rerolling guide if you weren’t a whale but still wanted to clear the content. You restart your account from zero and try to luck out on the newest unit, then auto-battle faceroll all the way to the newest story bits. The new stuff had 25% to 100% better numerical performance than the old stuff because it was forcing addicts to pull latest each time: my hard mode capable setup from before couldn’t clear a story mission in the new patch in normal mode when I quit.

@alexferrier5732

6 ай бұрын

​@@studiesinflux1304What was that gacha app? I'm curious.

@studiesinflux1304

6 ай бұрын

@@alexferrier5732 Mobius Final Fantasy

i 100% agree with you. I think its been great. The new Fontaine characters give us more options :) Furina brought up some older characters. I love Jean but i never heard anyone besides Tuonto talking about her, but now shes in the conversation for one of the best support healers :) I dont mind if a new character comes out thats straight up better than my fav. I love that Neuvillette is out and ppl love him. I love using my Ayato and still use him all the time 💙 I actually pulled for Ayato because of your video on him :)

I look at Neuvillette's C1 and C2, then i go hoooooly shit But afterwards i look at Xiao's C2 and C4, then i cry 😭

@kwayke9

6 ай бұрын

If only Xiao's c4 gave atk% instead...

@vanilla9886

6 ай бұрын

Xiao is so dogshit to vertically invest in. Even his C1 is a questionable pull, if u have C6 Faruzan lol. The only good con is C6, and its terrible in boss fights. U compare it to recent Fontaine DPSes and Furina and they seem like C12s compared to him lmaoo😂.

@Mr_AntiSocial

6 ай бұрын

Neuvillettes C2 isn’t exactly great, C1s really good though

@ayyjay1575

6 ай бұрын

​@@Mr_AntiSocialc1 is really strong increase but c2 is ok and then c3 strong again.

@hitagi9558

6 ай бұрын

Tbf, a lot of 1.x characters do have dogshit Constellations. Venti, Zhongli, Childe and even Hutao outside her C1 have pretty underwhelming cons.

as far as abyss is concerned, they'll definitely make it hard during 4.5-4.8 versions. Its usually during the start of new region(4.0-4.4) they make it easy for new players, during later half of versions when everyone has built the new units and good units have had reruns, they'll make it hard again.

@davideographer4410

6 ай бұрын

That's a good observation

@Marz333

6 ай бұрын

I’ve been saying this!! Thing’s definitely get more difficult in later patches

about constellation investment and banner sales: Mihoyo is fully aware of it that if a very powerfull constellation is early avaible it leads to more pulls. A prime example is Furina where in the beta her C6 got swapped with her C2.

I think re-tuning older characters to keep up should be standard practice. I get why they don't do it, proft-wise, but for the sake of the health of the game, it should be done regularly. Also, the enemies behavior and stats/resistances should be modified to address the sudden appearance of broken characters. Don't nerf characters. Ever. Just creep everything else up to their level.

@HearMeLearn

6 ай бұрын

honestly they still could make decent money tuning old characters to stay relevant because then they would still make money on rerun banners from new players.

@SyrFlora

6 ай бұрын

Sadly this rarely happens in the gacha title game. Because they don't see any value in doing it financially wise. Better drop a new unit and milked from that. Unlike moba, fps, rts style competitive game. Which needs balancing as the game progresses

@HearMeLearn

6 ай бұрын

@@SyrFlora oh I know it'll basically never happen, it would just be nice

@alexferrier5732

6 ай бұрын

I will tell you why Hoyo doesnt re-tune older characters to keep up: Money, why re-tuning for free when they can sell you the re-tunes in the form of new characters? Sounds cold to say it, but it is what is, Hoyo is not known for doing charity at all.

@milou8434

6 ай бұрын

I also believe theres a law that prevents characters to change at all after release if they have limited availability, only way of tuning are indirect ones like artifacts or the kind of enemies you face

I’m excited to try the demo later on today now that my work week is over. Loved hearing your thoughts, Alex!

Beta Alhaitham would've powercrept the whole concept of dps 😂

I have been skipping characters for a while now simply because I'm not even happy yet with the build of the ones I pulled previously, so yeah, pulling have been meaning less and less for me with time, this is one of the reasons I have always been in favor of vertical investment.

It hurts me to see that fontaine character are this good. I'm not spending much on the game (only welkin and sometimes bp) but over three years of playing I managed to get c6r4 xiao and c6 venti. I knew that theirs constellations are not really worth it, but they're my favourite characters and i wanted to build them as strong as possible. And i get sad when I realise that all those investments gave me just a little bit of dps increase while new characters are broken just at c0r1

@morningglory4648

6 ай бұрын

early chars have really bad cons, but if you like anemo boys scaramouche's cons are worth investing. and xiao will get a big buff next patch.

@agony_bun

6 ай бұрын

@@morningglory4648 unfortunately I don't really like other anemo boys, and now I'm saving for furina, so i won't be able to pull for the new character in the next update (sorry, I don't know how to pronounce her name in English)... But i am considering it more and more now, because i want my xiao to be as strong as possible:(

Great video, Awesome content!!!

What if I told you that Navia's skill with the maximum overflowed bullets does more damage than a C2 Raiden Shogun.

@alexferrier5732

6 ай бұрын

🤫, you will summon the Raiden fanbase defense force

@guythekool2365

6 ай бұрын

@@alexferrier5732 😬

If they give itto another support like faruzan, he might become absolutely insane.

I like how everyone was like Yelan would powercreep Xingqiu but instead she works well with xingqiu

@user-iq1hj2ds4q

6 ай бұрын

Not anymore. She works better with Furina

@Bing..chiling

6 ай бұрын

Mono hydro goes brrrrr

@purplerainPR

6 ай бұрын

before furina came out ppl heavily coped that Yelan was a better solo hydro than XQ and as someone who has c0r1 Yelan that is still bs (still true to this day). but now that furina is out and double hydro is strong, its fair to say yelan is stronger but they all work their best with each other so it just depends on who you have built

@lawfulgoodnun1646

6 ай бұрын

​@@D4RKwiz...c0 yelan is worse than xq because she has massive energy issues and her damage is mid and overhyped.

@D4RKwiz...

6 ай бұрын

@@lawfulgoodnun1646 bro I am talking when Yelan was about to release what everyone thought was going to happen

I think they do a really good job that powercreep doesn’t feel bad. Older build characters are able to clear the abyss. I worry more about the fact that we get more and more events with less primos as a reward

You're right about Beeing hard to keep up. I'm an occasional welkin buyer with terrible luck when it comes to pulls and I still always feel behind when it comes to building characters I want to build. It takes so many resources to get the character up to endgame standard and before you can you already have another character.

Yeah, I have the problem where I wanna pull for so many charactars but the resources I have is so limited since I started in 4.0, I literally have navia and nuevillette at level 50 because I still have a whole other team that have like 0 artifacts but they’re levelled and their talents to my desired wants, it’s crazy how much investment 1 character needs and how long it takes to get good enough artifacts for them to be usable at best

I think Furina is actually the biggest powercreep we have experienced. As much as she has elevated so many of my teams, all of those teams now feel bad to play without her.

@Bluzlbee

6 ай бұрын

I still value Zhong Li and Diona, having some of the most safe ways of not being one shotted, just feels too great in abyss

@GrantDavidPerformer

6 ай бұрын

@Bluzlbee yea I can understand that IF you already have the dps you need from your other 3 characters, but a lot of people can not afford to drop their dps for a comfy pick.

@UnlistedAgain

6 ай бұрын

But a lot of Furina teams involve a set-up that was never good before her release. Like nobody was playing Jean and Baizhu until she came around.

@eastonair

6 ай бұрын

At least Furina is a universal support so she boosts a ton of characters even really old ones. Different from a primary DPS unit that can solo damage output entire teams while requiring zero skill (spin2win neuvilette)

@thewackykid

6 ай бұрын

​@@Bluzlbeeyeah... in fact with more powerful chars i use ZL more because i still have enough dps to clear the abyss but ZL makes it much easier to survive hence i don't need to restart the abyss often while meeting the dps check..

It will be scary to think what Natlan will be like, and we have more characters to come out. Clorande, arlachino, chiori, and more coming in Fontaine. I am loving the difference in each characters play styles, it is awesome to see how more unique and less played teams come in to meta.

I don't think it makes much sense to compare Ayato with Neuvillette, Ayato wasn't a very good character even when he first came out.

My perspective is that when I pull a character, if that particular character is getting benched in the future, it feels like a really bad investment, its 180 pulls to gurantee ONE CHARACTER. I feel a particular joy hyper investing in my characters, especially getting their premium team rather than going for constellations since they feel like bait to spend money (I'm a welkin only player).

Genshin recycles it's content, even the power levels, so I'd say it's not powercreep but they power lift forgotten or unused characters. Tbh the only powercreep that's not even one, it's Furina, bc she rises the dmg ceilings of everyone.

@midnight.blue42

6 ай бұрын

True, dendro made Shinobu, Thoma (and others) better and Furina made some healers better.

In similar fashion to vertical investment, one of the biggest gripes in Genshin right now is the "artifact powercreep". It's laughable how big the gap between the best set and the second option now. This wasn't the case 2 years ago except some notable exceptions (Raiden and to lesser extent, Ayaka at the time). Fontaine's artifacts are just miles better than the older ones, and you know how painful artifact farming is. I'm not having fun farming that Golden+Mare domains for two/three months now. It's kinda tiring to dedicate myself to just get that one good sands artifacts that never come.

@studiesinflux1304

6 ай бұрын

Yep, I’m haunted by the Husk artifacts on my Noelle and Albedo that I spent most of last January farming. Funny enough I’m farming Emblem of Severed Fate right now because I’ve taken a liking to a bunch of burst dependent characters.

As someone that is mostly F2P, buying a few welkins sometimes, I have never felt the need to refresh my Resin. I have more than enough Resin for all my characters and now I'm just trying to get artifacts with higher CV even if i don't need it. Maybe if you're a new player it'll he harder, but I don't know.

I am a welkin and that is all that I use, and I got Ayato, Ayaka, Navia, and Yoimiya already I've never lost a 50/50, and I'm really happy with my choices, but I also feel that I can literally never pull another DPS character again, because I'll never be able to build them

Somewhere Diluc is still starring daggers at Hutao. Talk of power creep has been around and again since year one.

The first instance of powercreep is ganyu to amber

@Matthew_1904

6 ай бұрын

😂😂 absolutely

@mordakie3805

6 ай бұрын

Ganyu a 5 star

@Rapiers-and-flowers

6 ай бұрын

Cryo amber

As a Welkin player who has been playing for about 1.5 years now, I have started going for constellations instead of more characters for a lot of the reasons you outlined. Unless I really love a character, it just isn’t worth the investment to build them when I can just save those wishes for someone I really, really like and make them even more powerful.

I would say furina power crep very support in the game because her damage buff is universal that she fits in almost every team possible if not every team. The fact that she provides a buff that it would take two units to provide already says alot but hoyo had to give her a down side which is needing a healer to take up another slot but if that healer as you said can bring something else to the team then we can come to some idea that furina gives you essentially 4 slots of supports in a hyper team for the carry or in a example navia team it would be possible to run Ben-xl. If you're able to cycle through your team good enough to keep everyone topped up you essential have 2 Bens on your team at that point with the buffs that navia and xl would get

I couldn't care less how good Nuevelette is, I will never go for him because he's way too boring. I'd rather hyper invest in my favorite characters. I already did that with C6 R5 Furina, C6 R1 Navia (eventually R5), C6 R1 Raiden (also eventually R5) C6 R1 Kokomi, and I'll be getting C6 R5 Clorinde, the Pyro Archon to C6 R5, the Cryo Archon to C6 R5 and Nahida to C6 R5 eventually. Yelan will also eventually be C6 R5 and I'm not wishing on anyone but my favorites anymore. I'll be skipping a majority of banners just so I can hyper invest in a few characters instead of going for a bunch of characters

MHY is probably setting up a stage for future Sovereign Dragons to become the peak on-field DPS. Archons are usually the best at supporting/damaging without needing significant field time. I expected that the Harbringers will fill the on-field spot but it seems like it is not the case with the currently released Harbringers.

my 2nd account got Neuvi c1 and now noticeably outperforms my main acc that is more than a half a year older. And my Neuvi still even lacks good artifacts or a 5* weapon. Neuvi has damage, he has survivability, he has self healing (which also means he works great with Furina), smooth rotation, ease of play, basically - everything you could ever want. The only time he struggles is when i need to fight water resistant enemies. 2nd account is now a dedicated Neuvi playground.

Any tips for vertical investing, especially for Raiden since I just got her C2?

Yeah. I buy Welkin and the BP and was able to get almost all Fontaine characters with that. Little did I know that I wouldn’t be able to use all of them because I ran out of resources reaaaally quickly, despite playing every day. That’s such a no-go for me. They add features that make it easier for you to determine which artifacts to use and how to build characters AND THEN YOU DON‘T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO IT. A big chunk of the problem are the randomized artifacts. You just don‘t get very far with a day‘s amount of resin and that’s so frustrating…

@sheepsong5681

6 ай бұрын

Yeah.. honestly having to build characters has made me too lazy to pull for them. The first time this happened was with cyno. I really liked him, but I did not want to collect scarabs. Especially when I still had others to build and they had easier materials to gather

@HazZzel-

6 ай бұрын

I've gotten all but Wriothesly and Charlotte. Hopefully I will get the rest, but I might sacrifice Arlechino for Lyney c2

And i though it would take into sneznaya to powercreep the kazuha team dps utility, and furina blew away my expectations

@djampoucheukap1742

6 ай бұрын

Kazuha hasn't really been powercreep by furina. It's simply the dmg What makes kazuha broken is the crowd control and debuffs in elemental reactions

@shamsielshahar120

6 ай бұрын

​@@djampoucheukap1742also VV artifact set is OP.

@lawfulgoodnun1646

6 ай бұрын

Furina + jean make kazuha irrelevent

@nablet

6 ай бұрын

​@@lawfulgoodnun1646no lol

@djampoucheukap1742

6 ай бұрын

@@lawfulgoodnun1646 completely wrong, since jean cannot swirl or group like kazuha. I said it earlier, what makes kaz broken is the ability to group even tough enemies.

Great content and great insights! Love that Hoyo doesn’t choke it’s people by powercreep

I think powercreep is when an enemy require certain character or favour one character because my Ayato ,nuvilette and childe can clear abyss easily at c0 the only difference is bout 5-10 second in clearing

I’m honestly scared for Cyno and Yae, clorinde is going to be cracked for sure, she’s the last one being released I just know they’re cooking with her kit😭

@anname7373

6 ай бұрын

Why are you scared for Yae? Chlorinde's playstyle is probably gonna be entirely different

@HazZzel-

6 ай бұрын

I think she's going to be an overload DPS. Besides, Cyno was never the best electro DPS but he's still solid despite that, and Yae is mostly a strong sub DPS

@Marz333

6 ай бұрын

@@anname7373not really scared I was exaggerating😭

@Marz333

6 ай бұрын

⁠@@HazZzel-I think Cyno is very solid now especially with furina and yae is a queen in dendro teams I have both (c4 r1) hopefully clorinde works in overload with chevreus but I’m getting her regardless

@milantarika7219

2 ай бұрын

I don't think it will be powercreep when C6 Fischl and Raiden who have more utility than Cyno/Yae, already exist way before Clorinde

the only powercreeping here is neuvillete. No one else really did much powercreeping imo. Like Lyney is restrictive, Navia has the worst range, Furina doesnt have enough good team healers. Im trynna keep it real

I feel like at the welkin and maybe battle pass level, you can go for one c2r1 per region and one c0r0, maybe getting lucky and snagging a rerun character or two. Thankfully most regions weren’t more tempting than that. I don’t envy your channel having to build every character, there just isn’t enough resin for every character to be built. I saved to be able to do just Furina and Navia and day 1 ascend them, have only built charlotte otherwise and am tapped out of resources at this point.

Given the Archons have supportive role and now we have Neuvi setting the standard as the first Dragon Sovereign main DPS , Hoyo might already have the same pattern set for future Sovereigns. Question is how they gonna balance or step up from Neuvi. Given that pyro resonance buffs ATK, Pyro Sovereign (if playable) might have ATK buffing main DPS kit or the BiS artifacts might do it. Bennett might be even more stellar in Natlan teams. Let see what Natlan has to offer ❤

I think the biggest reason for perceived power creep in Genshin is often a misunderstanding and lack of knowledge of certain units and roles within the game from the community as a whole

@dogo523

6 ай бұрын

Ganyu isnt just perceived powercreep, she's straight up powercrept

@iunanimous1983

6 ай бұрын

@@dogo523 Gan.. yu?

@wubalubadubdub-id8tm

6 ай бұрын

by what? Lyney is a completely different unit that fits a completly different archetype and Ayaka is more or less on par given their different strengths and weaknesses @@dogo523

@Bliss467

6 ай бұрын

@@dogo523isn’t she the only ranged melt dps? That can be really beneficial in a lot of abysses

@skybattler2624

6 ай бұрын

​@@dogo523With Furina, Ayaka and Ganyu now have distinct roles. Ayaka with Furina and Shenhe is now the heavy multi killer, but if they are Venti-able, Ganyu, Furina, and Venti out DPS any Ayaka teams

pulled raiden c0 and c1 in my first ten pull so i guess im a raiden main too now 😊

@chonkhampter

6 ай бұрын

Pull for c2.

@satoutakamachi7186

6 ай бұрын

Thats how they get you, I just wanted a few xq cons building pity on Neuvillette's banner and got him on the very first pull in the first ten pull and now basically main him. Hope you have as much fun with your raiden too!

Good thing is (well might be a bad thing) is that end game is so easy that u can use anything to clear it.

Im a destiny player who came to genshin about 2 years ago now, so i have experience playing the same content for years. I enjoy the endless upgrades and the constant goals if build these chars but also manage your resources. I mike that no matter what i can be doing something more to make my characters better at any given time

I only ever get C0 period. If I really like a character then I will go for cons on rerun banners. But I refuse to fall victim to FOMO. I also couldnt care less about abyss. I am satisfied with 3 stars on floor 11. Floor 12 is bait and optional imho. I also refuse to spend money on this game. Same with HSR.

@jart372

6 ай бұрын

How is abyss a bait? You should easily 36star abyss after a few months of playing as f2p. As long as you know what are you doing.

@qwertysysysyysysysyzz

6 ай бұрын

@@jart372 just the reasons of skill issued players, "floor 12 is a bait" lmfao

I mean we expect the Archons of each element to be the best of that particular element don't we??.... So neuvillette being as strong as he is doesn't really surprise me one bit considering he is the sovereign of Hydro I mean hydro as an element itself is subservient to Neuvillette so of course he has to be strong. And regarding Powercreep I do understand that Neuvillette has made it hard for my boi Ayato, but I have a C0 Ayato fully build and when I run him with his best team I am still doing enough dmg to not warrant me over thinking that having Neuvillette would have been much better it would be faster definitely but not so much faster than what I am currently doing with Ayato. But I wouldn't recommend any new player going for Ayato if they r looking for a hydro DPS Neuvillette is a much better choice.... I got Ayato on his first banner and I had goldy HOD artifacts already because I farmed for Ganyu artifacts since 1.2 or 1.3 whenever she came out. For a new player it is absolutely absurd to think that they would farm that Domain when u can strong box some universal sets while farming some of the more latest sets which are great on multiple different characters.

@viedralavinova8266

6 ай бұрын

You can say the same thing for Harbingers too. (Sovereigns, Archons, Harbingers and Hexenzirkel eventually are designed to be purposely strong) I don't understand where this dumb idea that power creep is coming from. It's the same type of braindead mentally that people always claim the game is dying. As you get more characters in a game, of course more powerful combinations are just going to naturally appear. This is why the devs choose not to rework old content. You release new content to freshen up and change the perception of older content.

I am at the point where I’m planning for constellations. I have enough characters for team and gameplay diversity and always stick to my faves leaving most benched. I’ll definitely still get the occasional new character if I really enjoy their design or gameplay but I’m at the point where I just want to push my current characters. Plus if I have to keep farming new domains and materials constantly I’m going to burn out and leave the game again so wishing for my cons on already built characters is actually way more enjoyable for me currently. Same goes for weapons. I’ve only gone for kazuha and furina cons so far but they both proved the extra investment to be worth it on my account so now I’m aiming for nahida’s c1 and c2

I'm going to make a counterpoint that we've been here before, it was Inazuma in general mostly Raiden Kazuha Ayaka, but if you look at it now people have calmed from the hype, or in other cases certain characters got serious ways to build teams (new supports etc) that elevated them again. Very very similar to that era we feel it more because of the current abyss, which we had the same thing happen around early half of 2.0+ era where it was repeatedly tailored extremely well for new 5* characters. Eventually people realized none of this was be all end all, although new comps and character buffs helped this. What i would say about Fontaine is they nailed character purpose more, the way they play, this doesn't make them better imo but it makes building and using them more intuitive, and for casual players way less chance of having any odd feelings like with Ayato when you realize what he actually specializes at (all about his ult. idc if Zajeff said otherwise originally) Childe with a good nuke build and busted Xiangling beside him I'm pretty certain still can beat out Neuvi for low constellation investment, and Ayatos synergy for AoE comps (not relevant right now, but surely can be again) namely in Nilou bloom but also Freeze comps with Venti still scales, the difference is nobody pulled these characters originally for these purposes with Neuvillette you know exactly what your getting, a big dong watergun dragon of a man who does exactly what you thought. Also why roll any of these dudes if you don't care for them Yelan is still crazy as ever. Oh also Sucrose is still better then Kazuha in most comps lower investment players would use the two as either or situation, shes just harder to use, greedier for field time, doesn't make Kazuha bad i prefer his style of buffing and play but people still cling to him as a true example of powercreep incorrectly like crazy. I'd conclude with saying we do have some creep but its usability creep, and hes top tier example of that as are most if not all the new Fontaine characters. Neuvillette should be more compared as a Archon style character imo, and in that regard I'm not going to say hes more useful or amazing then Nahida still can be or especially was back when she came out, its just on field single character vs off field supportive.

Neuvillette is quickly becoming my favorite character to play, but I still have a soft spot for Raiden, one of my previous mains. When her banner first released, I was extremely lucky in pulling her and her signature weapon without even reaching pity. Now that her Banner is back, I just pulled her C2. So my plan now is to make a couple teams dedicated to Neuvillette and Raiden specifically. My Neuvillette team has Fischl, Venti, and Kirara, while I'm going for a Rational team for Raiden. My Sara is C3, I don't have Kazuha or Chevreuse, and I lost my 50/50 on Furina's banner, so I don't have her either. So Raiden's Hypercarry teams are not available atm. Raiden's current banner upgraded my Bennett to C5 (he was C0 previously), and I picked up a Xiangling with Starglitter. Then if course, Lantern Rite offers XQ. So I'm all set for Rational.

I wonder if the crazy buffing of hydro characters is because of how close we are to Snezhnaya and a bunch of characters who will just slap hydro. In Snezhnaya, you'll basically be running with pyro and electro teams 90% of the time so the focus on overload makes complete sense.

Im definitely a builder. Its really fun to just make lots of characters and try out less recommended teams to see how they work.

@milantarika7219

2 ай бұрын

Same, c6 Faruzan isn't broken but its fun to see her as a dps and try out niche teams

I can’t wait to get Neuv/Wriothesley/furina/alhaitham. I might be waiting awhile :(( but the joy I got from Wriothesley’s trial in the sword Fontaine event rn was the best feeling ever.

it was about time. the same characters have been at a decent level for years now and only now it feels like characters are straight up better. but i like how theres still a purpose to older characters at least in the sense that they feel different to play and have unique mechanics. i just hope that like we stay at this new power level for a while instead of constantly going up in power cuz that would be bad imo

@viedralavinova8266

6 ай бұрын

People cry about power level in Fontaine cycle. But that's only because they are releasing characters that are purposely strong (Furina, Neuvillette, Lyney), or fit well in their niche (Navia, Wriothesley, and soon to be Xianyun) One of the best ways they can improve older characters is release new characters that mesh well together.

@ronmexico7256

6 ай бұрын

The characters that have been strong and relevant for years are still strong and relevant, it’s the fringe characters that get hit the hardest by power creep

Powercreep is why I'm not investing my time effort and money into building characters in a gacha game.

I have a question.I have Neuvi c0 and his weapon r0 and full 4[even 5] artifact set.But my ratio is 50/260.I've been farming for a crit rate flower or feather but only roll crit dmg on both😂 and my thingy is not hydro dmg but hp but with good stats.Should i keep farming or leave it with this low crit rate?(im f2p)

With Welkin only I just got Raiden C2, but that took a heavy toll on my primogems. Is it worth pulling for Nilou + her weapon if I don't have Neuvilette?

Can't wait for Clorinde to power creep Booba sword and Fischl

@JelloImpact

6 ай бұрын

It would be crazy if Clorinde powecrept raiden

@nobblkpraetorian5623

6 ай бұрын

@@JelloImpact Or she'll get the Dehya treatment, which I hope isn't true.

@lil_Perro

6 ай бұрын

My bet is she'll be like Navia, pretty good but nothing special

@leukemia6175

6 ай бұрын

No way, ei is archon, clorinde probably amazing in some kind reaction just like navia crystalize

@nobblkpraetorian5623

6 ай бұрын

@@leukemia6175 Rumour has it that she's an overload dps.

I'm so happy with my C1R1 Neuvillette, and none of my other characters can hold a candle him, especially since he's the only character I have used a crown on, and he has made clear times on the Abyss side I use him on give me enough breathing room to make 36 staring the Abyss with my other characters feel more feasible. Best I've done is 35 stars with only 15 seconds keeping me from my last star, but before that, I struggled to get to floor 12, let alone with full stars.

If they made a character for cloud retainer think theyd make one for Dvalin also since neuvi is a thing?

Neuvilette is powercreep all by himself. Lyney and navia just fell that way bc they have access to a lot of their power with minimal setup

tbf ayato was never really that good even before neuv came out. he was still a good pull since he was hydro and therefore has good teams but as an on-fielder he was just ok. he's always been interchangeable with other hydros and also never been a BiS in great teams. it really doesn't take much to clearly outclass him.

@philkersonchong9848

6 ай бұрын

Ayato soup is still quite good? Best at killing repeatedly respawning enemies like the battle events but only quite good at everything else. There is also ayato in nilou bloom as well. Every other team do feel bad for ayato in comparison to other similar teams though.

@usmanya5110

4 ай бұрын

​@@philkersonchong9848 and burgeon too. though there could be an argument for Kokomi as well.

I think having neuvilette is the same level having zhongli, he's pretty much easy to build, very strong character at c0 and very easy to play like there's no extra steps how to min max the damage. And also his survivability is pretty high since he can heals from the water droplets.. Yea surely he did powercreep Ayato by a lot..

Okay, c1 r1 Neuvillette, but what about Alhaitham and Wrio? Should you go for their weapon or contellations?

bro was RIGHT on the money with that diluc statement at 11:23

Unironically Wriothesley has the most broken C6 ever tho

@zaraki942

6 ай бұрын

Yeah he got global #1 clear in golden house

I play coop most of the time and I one time almost rage quit when an AR56 player with an underbuilt Nuevellette out dpsed all the characters I've been building for years. This is just messed up. So, if you are a player like me that wants to have a strong account, there is literrily no reason to pull for any character other than Neuvillette. He powercreeps every other dps in every situation - He is good at aoe content, - Good at single target, - He is hydro basically best element in the game. - Can hit flying enemies. - Can heal himself, - He almost has no downtime on his skill - Probably the most braindead character to use. You name it. Do you know the worst part is? If they go down the powercreep path, Nuivellette will get powercrept in the future too. This puts the players in an endless cycle of unsatisfaction with their characters. This is why I despise powercreep in games.

Building characters not an issue for me bcs I started playing right after Yelan and Eula rerun and how many years until next ? 😂 And now they even deleyed Shenhe rerun but relising her skin - it's just don't make sense. How many time my Rosaria will be Shenheless? 🙃

Hey, Wanderer power crept my Sayu. Who needs a taxi when you have a flying taxi.

for me Neuvi is the only character feels too op , he has no downside at all ,lyney need to be in full pyro team, navia need a geo pair and crystalize mechanic, furina is strong but she needs team wide healer but neuvi can just solo which is i dont like , if he is cryo do this beam of death, it wouldn't be this bad the fact is he is hydro and doing sooo much damage make me feel like why im building other characters, he is practically good on any sort of domain and with elemental checks you cant restrict hydro so much because its really important element. He never require a team to shine even though it feels that way. I love the team building and still relevance of the old characters that what I love about the game . There is no pvp but the fact some one can beat your DPS output with a one single character makes the game boring and makes you wonder why to build any other characters. They should have made him to required a healer or to be in a mono hydro team like a team player not like he is the whole team . I will stop ranting

3.8 was a great time to join. Zhongli, Yelan, Neuvillette, Jean, Furina, and Navia, just on Welkin and a couple BPs.

@yukiyana5214

6 ай бұрын

Heh. I joined at around the same time. Also a welkin player. But I lost all my 50/50s. Lucky you

@stribijev

6 ай бұрын

For non-F2P, any time to join is good.

I mained Phys Keqing before 4.3 mostly due to hilariously bad rolls - now I main Navia. For anyone who's had C4+ Nationals for a while but nobody to really tie it together, Navia is ridiculous. Click for 120k+ on command after a week of farming. Crazy.

11m20s in, 3 weeks ago, jello says "Diluc, who knows maybe he'll be the next character we see a huge glow up for with a future synergy", and then Xianyun comes out 🤔

Sumeru was also powercreep because of how strong hyperbloom was. Also aggravate teams were in a lot of cases stronger than vape/melt comps. During sumeru - eula, ganyu, klee, yoimiya, itto, zhongli, diona and sucrose just fell off and became irrelevant in the meta. And yes, before sumeru these characters were considered at least decent to very good characters, just look up any tierlist

@SeenE-kg9nj

6 ай бұрын

Sucrose never fell off. I used her every Sumeru Abyss until I got Kazuha in 3.7. The problem with Sucrose is she actually takes a little bit of skill/game knowledge compared to for example Raiden Shogun where you just build the character and press buttons to win. So Sucrose will always be unpopular with most of player base. Also most of the units on your list got a pretty decent buff with Furina. Doesn't make them meta but good enough for f2ps to comfortably clear Abyss 12 (whereas in the past only meta teams could clear for f2ps)

@nagorner3791

6 ай бұрын

Yoi was considered the worst limited 5 star when she launched. How exactly did she fall off from the bottom?

@Zarya.

6 ай бұрын

@@nagorner3791 not exactly most theorycrafters still rated her A tier or A+, but during sumeru especially when abysses became harder she became a B tier carry and stays there for most people

@Zarya.

6 ай бұрын

@@SeenE-kg9nj with furina* thats the key word. Furina makes bad (mid) characters good and maybe thats a good thing, but still powercreep. Same with kazuha, he buffs characters so that they seem better than they are. Mono elemental teams is where kazuha finds most success. Whereas sucrose buffs reaction based characters which are already strong like xiangling and fischl

@nagorner3791

6 ай бұрын

@@Zarya. Do you remember her launch? TC's absolutely shat on her. Who exactly rated her A before sumeru? Yoi was always ST locked, needed a shielder for her combos and didn't have enough ST damage to compensate. At most some people started to consider her "not bad" before Sumeru launch, because her range became moderately useful. But Yoi had never stepped into meta. During her launch people had written entire dessertations in reddit why she was god awful, ala Dehya. She wasn't anywhere as bad as Dehya so it became forgotten quickly, but she isn't what I would consider meta unit that got powercrept.

They don't really powercreep top units - rather they "comfort creep". Kazuha is barely better than Sucrose, but much easier to play. Neuvillette allows even complete noobs obtain power levels of meta teams like Alhaitham Hyperbloom or International, but at C0R0 his teams don't massively outperform them against non-pyro content. Chevreuse allows people to use overload teams without needing to do complex double-swirl rotations, but again not massively powercreeping anemo supports. etc.

@sarettodn5708

6 ай бұрын

Kazuha is massively better than sucrose though

@SeenE-kg9nj

6 ай бұрын

@@sarettodn5708 He is massively better when his grouping advantage is needed or when you have a proper on-fielder. When I got him, my best chamber 12 clear times with XQ Xiangling and Bennett did not improve over Sucrose. The consistency improved. So for example if with Sucrose I could clear a chamber in 60-90 secs, with Kazuha I could do it in 70-80 secs and it was much easier. But tbh, without Childe Sucrose was kind of better when everything aligned perfectly (she is an on-fielder after all)

@noonehehe.9906

6 ай бұрын

yeaa i think i agree with this most. keeping in mind what hoyo said about endgame, i think they won’t make abyss specifically harder (unless they will idk), so to powercreep characters, they make them comfier to use, meaning it’s easier to get full value out of them (easier to build, more accessible teams, etc.). my fave comfort character is still zhongli, since his buffs are unconditional when you have his shield, so i only really need him on hp build.

As someone who started Genshin in 4.1 and is a semi dolphin ($100-200) a banner if I spend at all it’s getting hard mats wise to even keep up with building characters I get. Like I don’t even have enough weapon level up crystals to level my weapons and can’t seem to scrape together enough resin to even stay current as far as building characters. Like with my exceptional luck this banner I made it out with c0r1 of both characters on banner but can’t even 90 engulfing lightning or much less level my yoimiya

I started genshin when nuivelette released. Got furina, navia,and wriotheseley. What a good time to start.

@lafeechloe6998

6 ай бұрын

NEU-VI-LETTE

@Brokeearther

6 ай бұрын

@@lafeechloe6998 are the Chloe In that video who helped that player.

I love the idea of furina being Omega Giga zoomer turbo broken as she is because that means that whatever you throw in with her will also be! Ngl I was gonna be an Eula simp REGARDLESS since I got her in 3.8 but the difference of playing her with Raiden(c2), Zhongli and Bennett to play her with Raiden, Furina(c1) and Mika(c2) is HUUUUGE, Furina really made my favorite character become even more favorite! And I will atribute this to the fact that Furina is omegabroken while being off field, unlike Neuvillette who would feel like he overcrept your Ayato/childe/maindps because he takes the whole field for himself, Furina really is the best character ever made in a sense. Cant wait to get her C2 + weapon next rerun

“Is it hard to keep up” yes, but not nearly as hard as HSR makes it 😭😭😭

@ajop2235

6 ай бұрын

Hsr is where I find it hard to keep up. I cant clear things unless I have the proper element because all enemies have shields like im fighting abyss mage using incorrect element without having the opportunity to break its shield.

To make a really lowkey argument, the abyss enemies or the abyss cycle kinda matters too. Like you can easily clear the abyss with a team of keqing, dendro mc , yaoyao and lisa if there are enemies like that green chicken king thingy (yes, any other electro hyper carry team like ones with raiden will oblirate that thing) but there is an argument that can be made (Im coping.) You can clear the abyss with any units but some units require a lot of investment. Like a navia crystallise team or nahida hyperbloom team requires less investment than freeze teams and these teams get better with higher investment. But man in the end, all this powercreep stiff only ever matters if you wish to 36 star the abyss.

Hi Jello, have you considered making a different account this time with constellation on characters? I think you should always have the access and the "normal" perspective of the F2P when building and testing characters throughout the game that way you could activate constellations on your favorites as well and didn't had to spend that much on the "normal" account.

I dont think they powercreep but rather upgraded a certain playstyle.. the hypercarry playstyle.. I think the only powercreep is Navia because we already have a geo hypercarry with Itto.. Neuvillette has no proper competition because the only other hydro hypercarry I can think of is Ayato and he isnt necessarily a hypercarry but rather a flex pick.. you can argue Lyney powercrept Yoimiya in terms of pyro hypercarry but he still isnt better than Hu Tao..

Honestly powercreep has been in the game forever - it just hasn't been *characters*. Weapons and especially artifact sets have been getting powercrept for years. Like look back at 2.0 and tell me Emblem of Severed Fate wasn't an absolutely massive upgrade for any character that deals most of their damage with their burst.

@handsomejack2201

6 ай бұрын

But we hadn't any set for burst centric dmg, and noblesse doesn't count. It's new set, not powercreep of existing ones.

@noonehehe.9906

6 ай бұрын

sort of agree, we can’t really know the future, but for example, fischl’s 4pc set in the beginning were not really better than 2pc 2pc, but now her uncontested best set for skill is 4pc golden troupe

@vladdyru

6 ай бұрын

Does the artifact & weapon powercreep really matter? It hardly affects the older characters, and the newer ones have their kits designed around them from the very beginning. Besides, it's not like you have to pay for the good artifacts. It's the characters that are the main problem, seeing your favourite character falling off or just being lackluster in the first place is just plain terrible and disheartening.

I would like to share: I pre farmed for raiden and was do so excited for her and as soon as I got her, ascended her to level 90 got her talents upto lvl 6, the catch was ready. But something doesn't feel right and I feel unsatisfied, after that haven't played much. And Even if I go to play just to complete dailies or events I use hu tao vap team or dendro mc team or qiqi zongli team. Raiden just feel overkill that I won't be using in overworld. I want to swing sword or see cool moves, not just use skills and bursts and game over. Has anyone felt like this ?

@studiesinflux1304

6 ай бұрын

Yes, I go off meta in overworld: DPS Faruzan specifically. The DPS Faruzan does enough damage to clear, and tossing Treasure Hoarders around with Pressurised Collapse is fun. If I bring my Abyss team in overworld (full Flower of Paradise lost Hyperbloom), everything is gone before the first opening seconds of the music. It’s not a game if I squish the encounter before I even pressed E for all the characters in the team without even aiming.

The issue with powercreep is that a low spender player like me, after investing so much in his favorite characters / teams... loses the desire to play. I didn't pull for Neuvillette, I personally find his gameplay boring. And I fear my C2 Yoimiya might soon become irrelevant. Yelan was my best support for Yoimiya and now I'm incited to replace her by Furina.

Like you say at the end, it doesn't matter right now because you can still clear abyss with nearly any units, from old favorites to wonky trial and error teams to ultra min/max. Powercreep is bad in honkai impact as a comparison, where not only do they release better units but also create bosses for those units and phase out old ones. And also a large portion of your crystal income comes from basically a competitive abyss, where its your clear time vs other players, so you're incentivized to spend, especially if you're in higher tiers.

Powercreep is the general trend of new characters being better than old character and its best exemplified if a character that was considered strong at one point is strictly worse than a newer character. This doesnt have to happen for power creep to have occured

Sigwine might powercreep kokomi since she’s hydro healer likely working better with furina and reactions and clordine will either yae, keqing or maybe even raiden since she’s an energy unit polearm…and who knows with the knave and cryo archon smhh 😢

No one will deny me, if i say the most powerful character in whole genshin currently is none 9ther than #Neuvillette and #Furina FR...