Follow-up; weirdness of getting through-the-viewfinder shots

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  • @mirelchirila
    @mirelchirila3 жыл бұрын

    funny enough this got recommended but not the other one,

  • @meegstomtom

    @meegstomtom

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same here

  • @cllris

    @cllris

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same!

  • @MrDannyDetail

    @MrDannyDetail

    3 жыл бұрын

    same

  • @Bolli1983

    @Bolli1983

    3 жыл бұрын

    Set notifications to "all" instead of personalized by hitting the alarm bell for the main channel.

  • @MrDannyDetail

    @MrDannyDetail

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Bolli1983 I realise you were probably directing that at the OP, but I have hit the bell on everything I am subscribed to, as seeing all their videos is the whole point why I would choose to subscribe to a channel. If I only watched some of their videos then the algorithm will probably sort me out, or I can revisit their channel directly once in a while.

  • @AnonymousFreakYT
    @AnonymousFreakYT3 жыл бұрын

    I just love how effective the phone's stabilization is! While the "view window" keeps jumping around, the subject within the frame beyond is generally rock-solid stable.

  • @TechnologyConnextras

    @TechnologyConnextras

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's definitely cool in its own right! But also... AARRGHH

  • @sachingiyer

    @sachingiyer

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TechnologyConnextras But somehow, even though I'm a big fan of coding, I really miss technology which we can see and feel, like this camera. Few silicon chips with a few lines of code might be more effective than these analogue methods, but in the end i consider these very impressive analogue techniques to be far superior to what engineers get to do today.

  • @Jackpkmn

    @Jackpkmn

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TechnologyConnextras The perennial power user problem. "This automatic feature is great but its in my way."

  • @todddenton5862

    @todddenton5862

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TechnologyConnextras That jumpiness in the video seems to be the result of electronic image stabilization. On OnePlus models EIS is switched off and OIS is switched on when recording at 60 fps (1080 and 2160). When shooting at 30 fps the opposite is true.

  • @alliejr

    @alliejr

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is weird behavior. I’ve used an iPhone to take video through an old Nikon SLR and it never did this.

  • @JosephDavies
    @JosephDavies3 жыл бұрын

    The KZread algorithm detects pride in craftsmanship and automatically attempts to counter it by generating disappointment. Personally, I really enjoyed the camera video. I don't have a phone team. I use it to communicate (rarely) and that's about it.

  • @PiPArtemis

    @PiPArtemis

    3 жыл бұрын

    I loved the video. I actually know what the settings mean in Pro Mode on my phone's camera now!!

  • @osxdude

    @osxdude

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep happened to me too.

  • @JosephDavies

    @JosephDavies

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PiPArtemis I don't use a phone for photos, but I too learned a lot from this one. ^_^

  • @DaveSomething

    @DaveSomething

    3 жыл бұрын

    this, exactly.

  • @Krahazik

    @Krahazik

    3 жыл бұрын

    I use whatever gets the job done. For the longest time, I was using a very primitive handheld communications device. It had a cover you flip open with actual touch buttons and limited set of functions and no real 'apps.' Then I inherited an old LG smartphone but didn't actually start using a smartphone until I started doing Courier work that required the use of a smartphone app. Then I had to acquire a more powerful smartphone that could run the needed apps reliably.

  • @notalostnumber8660
    @notalostnumber86603 жыл бұрын

    Main Video: I never use After Effects Second Video: I had to use After Effects

  • @maxximumb

    @maxximumb

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's just what Captain Disillusion's alter, alter ego wants us to think.

  • @Okusar

    @Okusar

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@maxximumb Alan...Alec. Hmm... We might be on to something here.

  • @drachenfliger1368

    @drachenfliger1368

    2 жыл бұрын

    3. Channel all around after effects 🤣 3 channel: (Captain Disillusion)

  • @notalostnumber8660

    @notalostnumber8660

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@drachenfliger1368 ; I would love to see a colab between the two, so TC can finally say that he and CD were in the same room together. But we all know CD has pulled that stunt before (first example which comes to mind is Wall Walking)

  • @josh_dick
    @josh_dick3 жыл бұрын

    Screw the algorithm, the vid was great as always.

  • @JoshuaPlays99

    @JoshuaPlays99

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its literally impossible for you to have watched the whole thing yet lol

  • @cornshot9857

    @cornshot9857

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JoshuaPlays99 the original video

  • @scaper8

    @scaper8

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JoshuaPlays99 I'm 99.9983% sure Josh Dick was referring to the video on the main channel when he said, "the vid was great as always," not this current one.

  • @josh_dick

    @josh_dick

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I was referring to the video on the main channel.

  • @JoshuaPlays99

    @JoshuaPlays99

    3 жыл бұрын

    My bad, I thought you were referring to this one.

  • @AlphaSynchrome
    @AlphaSynchrome3 жыл бұрын

    "It's not performing well". Of course it isn't. It didn't show up in my subscription list until now. Darn KZread...

  • @alliejr

    @alliejr

    3 жыл бұрын

    I had the opposite issue. The conextra did not show up in my subscriptions but the original video did. Oh Google- go home, you’re drunk.

  • @bracco23

    @bracco23

    3 жыл бұрын

    The solution is easy for everyone, hit the bell!

  • @MrSquishedsquashed
    @MrSquishedsquashed3 жыл бұрын

    The algorithm might not like your video, but I do and that's what matters right?

  • @ErdTirdMans

    @ErdTirdMans

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you're a Patreon sub, then yes! Otherwise... money :'(

  • @DeviantOllam
    @DeviantOllam3 жыл бұрын

    Oh my gosh, this reminds me so much of when I would have to occasionally do face blur for certain sensitive client videos. I had a plug-in for VirtualDub (I'm old, deal with it) And it could do face tracking to some degree in order to move the blur box around, but just like we're seeing here it would constantly lose focus maybe every few seconds and need some nudging and correction and human intervention. Cheers to you for powering through this and the end result was terrific, as always for us. P.S. - former OnePlus, now Pixel3a human here, as well. All credit to Snubs for telling me to try it out. :-)

  • @Ralesk

    @Ralesk

    3 жыл бұрын

    VirtualDub was so easy and straightforward compared to literally every monster of a video editing/whatevering program out there these days :/

  • @darkmann12

    @darkmann12

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ahahaha, nice.

  • @FilthPiston

    @FilthPiston

    3 жыл бұрын

    The algorithm must really like you, I binged through a lot of your talks the other day, and am noticing you in a lot of places.

  • @rbnlenin

    @rbnlenin

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FilthPiston A case when the algorithm works nicely. DeviantOllam is real good.

  • @mzmegazone

    @mzmegazone

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've used a number of Nexus/Pixel phones - currently Pixel 4 XL, up from a 2 XL. I tend to skip a generation and use it for two years, so no P5 for me.

  • @fluffycritter
    @fluffycritter3 жыл бұрын

    I like the camera mounting solution. Sometimes there's no tech like low tech. Sympathies for you having to finally learn AfterEffects though.

  • @TechnologyConnextras

    @TechnologyConnextras

    3 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate that. It was scary!

  • @JosephDavies

    @JosephDavies

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TechnologyConnextras The only thing more frightening than needing to decipher the UI of an Adobe product is that there are a large number of people who defend it as intuitive!

  • @mikecowen6507

    @mikecowen6507

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JosephDavies Must be Apple users. Their shi.., uh, "products" give me migraines!

  • @JosephDavies

    @JosephDavies

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mikecowen6507 Alas, I don't think it's restricted to any single OS. It often reads like some kind of stockholm syndrome. The trouble, in my estimation, is that the programs have a lot of "tradition" they've accrued over the decades. That, combined with being fairly complex tools that include a lot of options which would make _any_ attempt at reasonable UI a daunting task for even the most talented of designers... well...

  • @talon262

    @talon262

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mikecowen6507 Uhhh, no...Alec's production machines (his semi-retired homebuilt desktop and his main daily driver/production Dell laptop) run Windows 10; he did a video about laptop docks a few months ago, showing his docked XPS 15 setup. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gpdnk65sqq3Pkbg.html

  • @radicalxedward8047
    @radicalxedward80473 жыл бұрын

    I always find this IS the way to learn. I suck at just going through a million hour course. I learn by solving specific problems over time as needed.

  • @deefdragon

    @deefdragon

    3 жыл бұрын

    there are 3 or 4 main ways people learn, and hands on is one of the bigger and more common ones.

  • @radicalxedward8047

    @radicalxedward8047

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@deefdragon 1. Reading 2. Listening 3. Hands on But the distinction I’m drawing is hands on but only as needed to solve a specific problem relevant to what you’re trying to do and not just made up example problems.

  • @colto2312

    @colto2312

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@radicalxedward8047 4. rolling your face on the keyboard till it works

  • @radicalxedward8047

    @radicalxedward8047

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@colto2312 😂

  • @Krahazik

    @Krahazik

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is why I'm not a fan of video tutorials for learning games or software. Much easier to scan through a written tutorial with pictures to find the specific pieces of information I need for my specific current use case. With most video tutorials I feel like I'm back in the days of VHS, move clip forward watch, not here forward more, nope oops past it backup, Prince, and repeat. Sure I get a search bar to slide around on but it's just as inaccurate.

  • @KurosakiYukigo
    @KurosakiYukigo3 жыл бұрын

    Also, Alec, don't feel bad about the algorithm snubbing your video. I've watched it several times (much like almost all of your videos), and sometimes, the youtube algorithm is just plain dumb. I know there's a lot in the KZread backend pressuring you to do better and better and better and get those big numbers higher and higher, but it's not worth burning yourself out to appease the whims of whatever the heck KZread is doing. Make the content you find cool, and viewers will find it when they're ready. Remember, KZread is a tool made to wring cash from creativity and then cast the creators aside when no longer "profitable". To hell with that, be you, and talk about what you want, when you want to.

  • @n-steam

    @n-steam

    3 жыл бұрын

    Some wise words, and I agree completely. Though I think the pressure is more about himself getting revenue than merely pleasing youtube.

  • @user2C47

    @user2C47

    3 жыл бұрын

    In fact, KZread specifically reserves the right to terminate channels that are no longer commercially viable. We need competition in the market, and for Google to not blacklist them as malware. (LBRY)

  • @Krahazik

    @Krahazik

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user2C47 thing is in his case, the revenue stream is via another platform possibly not owned by youtube (Google). He doesn't have ad content on his videos, nor does he do sponsors.

  • @georgeprout42
    @georgeprout423 жыл бұрын

    For future reference you might like to look into Open Camera. Options - video - enable video stabilization (off!) There are so many settings and options compared to the stock camera, but is great for those that like to poke around a bit. Plus who doesn't love open source? 😉

  • @user2C47

    @user2C47

    3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent camera app and very configurable, but won't detect the macro or depth sensors on the Samsung A21-71.

  • @AndrewGillard

    @AndrewGillard

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user2C47 OpenCamera fairly recently started supporting all 3 of the rear cameras on my Huawei Mate 20 Pro (standard, macro/wide, tele), and it added (better) support for 120fps and 240fps slow-mo modes, IIRC, so if you've not checked it in the past few months it might be worth having another look. And if it still can't see all of your sensors, at least it appears there is still some development happening on that software, so support for those sensors might arrive in future :) I'm pretty sure it was well over a year into the life of the Mate 20 Pro before OpenCamera supported all of the sensors, but I think that app only has a single developer, and they only work on it in their spare time, so progress can be understandably slow. Also I'm not sure if the update which added support for all of the Mate 20 Pro's cameras was an update to *specifically* support that device (and presumably a load of others), or if there's a standard(-ish) API for accessing multiple camera sensors (beyond the "traditional" front+rear arrangement) that OpenCamera started supporting, in which case it would presumably automatically support any new devices using that same API...

  • @Maikeru_Dabittsu

    @Maikeru_Dabittsu

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user2C47 those sensors are pretty useless anyway

  • @BigOlSmellyFlashlight

    @BigOlSmellyFlashlight

    3 жыл бұрын

    open camera lets me not deal with crappy autofocus and lets me record videos that dont take up 17gb of space so i can also recommend

  • @GaiaGoddessOfTheEarth

    @GaiaGoddessOfTheEarth

    3 жыл бұрын

    The built in camera app with my LG G5 is shit and open camera allows me to do everything better.

  • @rainerzufall8928
    @rainerzufall89283 жыл бұрын

    theres a warp stabilizer effect in after effects, which will stabilize the whole video automatically without using manual trackers. if you put a brightness/contrast effect above it, so that the viewfinder image becomes completely white, it should be able to stabilize (or un-stabilize in that manner) the unwanted motion a lot faster.

  • @tracz99

    @tracz99

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think the problem is that it might stabilize the image inside the viewfinder frame, rather than the frame itself.

  • @rainerzufall8928

    @rainerzufall8928

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tracz99 hence the idea with the contrast. you can set it so that the black parts stay black and everything inside the viewfinder becomes completely white. this will force the stabilizer to correct the outer frame. when the image is stabilized, you can remove the contrast setting again

  • @mattgeek49

    @mattgeek49

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or he could just use the corners of the frame as a reference and not the lightmeter. It is higher contrast, straight and right angle, so it is easyer to track than a red on black, blurry rounded corner of the lightmeter, it may even be faster that way

  • @pablorepetto2759

    @pablorepetto2759

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mattgeek49 They are also further apart, which should reduce jitteriness. I _was_ wondering if there was some plus side to using the meter.

  • @AnonymousFreakYT
    @AnonymousFreakYT3 жыл бұрын

    I also enjoy how you used After Effects to *UNDO* stabilization! :-D

  • @ediseverywhere
    @ediseverywhere3 жыл бұрын

    "Stop helping."

  • @rjmackenzie
    @rjmackenzie3 жыл бұрын

    It's the voice of Captain Disillusion!

  • @JamesStec

    @JamesStec

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Having basically never used After Effects" Good one, Capain D!

  • @jo_magpie

    @jo_magpie

    3 жыл бұрын

    His real illusion was happening in front of us all along.

  • @JasperJanssen

    @JasperJanssen

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh, was that what it was supposed to be.

  • @maxximumb

    @maxximumb

    3 жыл бұрын

    Who knew Captain Disillusion had an alter, alter ego?

  • @CraigandJane1
    @CraigandJane13 жыл бұрын

    You are one of the cleverest people on KZread. That friend of yours isn’t even a mechanic, and he does a full strip down of an engine and gearbox and then puts it all back together again. It’s inspirational. You guys rock. Screw software. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺.

  • @KevinCrouch0
    @KevinCrouch03 жыл бұрын

    Hey, I know this isn't like super polished content, but I really love this video! It was a weird problem that you had, and you showed working through it! I love that stuff!

  • @WarrenGarabrandt
    @WarrenGarabrandt3 жыл бұрын

    I was VERY confused how you captured that video footage from inside the camera viewfinder. I've tried to record video through my telescope (the moon, and shooting stars), and I had a hell of a time getting ANY footage that wasn't complete garbage. Thanks for making this video!

  • @julian281198

    @julian281198

    3 жыл бұрын

    There are adapters where you can clip your phone on to the teleskop. Than with the pro-mode you can adjust shutter and iso. You can get pretty amazing pictures that way(of course this depends on your telescope but even with a toy you should be able to get amazing pictures)

  • @WarrenGarabrandt

    @WarrenGarabrandt

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@julian281198 my telescope was enormously expensive ($35 usd). I'm lucky it has an eyepiece I can look in. Lol

  • @julian281198

    @julian281198

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WarrenGarabrandt even with that you should be able to get some great pictures of the moon. And maybe even the galilean moons of Jupiter.

  • @rivendrive
    @rivendrive3 жыл бұрын

    This is a great example of why you want you spend time getting the content you need instead taking a whole evening fiddling with bad material to make it work

  • @HanleyFilms
    @HanleyFilms3 жыл бұрын

    As someone who has been using After Effects for over a decade now... my sympathies! Motion tracking is definitely one of those "dark arts" features. Once you finally start getting good at it, you've gone well past the point where you can easily explain *why* you picked the tracking points you did. Other "darks arts" features include: chroma keying! Which comes back nicely full circle to your original video...

  • @moebest
    @moebest3 жыл бұрын

    When working with Ae and Premiere, you don't have to export videos and re-import them. Premiere and After Effects allow you to link them dynamically: Open Premiere Pro and select the clips you want to replace. Right-click any of the selected clips. Select Replace With After Effects Composition. After Effects opens (if it is not already open) and a new linked composition is created. And once you are done in Ae, just go back to Pr. No need to export huge files. Edit: but if you'd like to export a video from Ae, use the Media Encoder when rendering. from there you can pick your favorite codec and also render the video in the background after closing Ae.

  • @TechnologyConnextras

    @TechnologyConnextras

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm vaguely aware of these things (and in fact I sent it to media encoder but I screwed something up there and it didn't actually encode with the stabilization) but my workflow has yet to need the dynamic linking stuff so it's all Greek to me.

  • @JeffreyMcGlinn

    @JeffreyMcGlinn

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just started working with linking, even within the same project, and it has been such a lifesaver. Especially when I just need to make a quick temporary adjustment to an entire sequence. All of this just takes time to discover, which is why I'm grateful for videos like this that remind me that I'm not alone in still figuring out my workflow! 😅

  • @snacksy7754
    @snacksy77543 жыл бұрын

    To bad the algorithm didn't like it, but i think i know why... I watched the video when it first came out, left halfway trough (which is unusual for me), but came back to watch it later and enjoyed it. *This is my hypothesis:* At 8:00 you begin going on a tangent and finally at 11:48 is the first time you mention the light sensor (the subject of the video). I'm guessing if you look at viewer retention it has a stronger dip than usual at the first part, but after you begin talking about the sensor people are more interested. Everyone loves your tangents, but maybe you took to long before getting to the main course? Anyways that is just my hypothesis, would love to hear if anyone else had the same experience.

  • @Mikemenn
    @Mikemenn3 жыл бұрын

    It helped me to learn after effects by realizing it was like photoshop with layers instead of premiere pro with tracks.

  • @joelsmith3473
    @joelsmith34733 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoyed the camera video, I recently bought my first ever DSLR and it hit all the stuff I've been learning because of that. As soon as I saw the viewfinder shots I was asking myself how you did it, so I'm glad you put out this companion!

  • @TwoMagadan
    @TwoMagadan3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much. Not only for doing the work initially but this follow up to help satisfy our thirst for understanding.

  • @kkyz13
    @kkyz133 жыл бұрын

    Welcome to the realm of visual effects (and #teampixel) ! Just wanna say that image tracking is a necessary evil, though After Effects is a lot less scary the more you use it (if it's just really slow, a common complaint for all vfx artists) I usually go get a cup of tea and amp myself for more work while I let the tracker(s) work its magic. I love the original video, and thank you for the informative investigation of light metering!

  • @Spartan_Jackal
    @Spartan_Jackal3 жыл бұрын

    you said "after effects" and my eye involuntarily twitched

  • @MrMoogle
    @MrMoogle3 жыл бұрын

    KZread needs to get it together! That video deserves way more views. It was one of my favorites from you in some time (and I love your vids so that's saying something). I love learning how old tech influences what we have today and that one was incredibly interesting. Thanks for all the great content!

  • @blade3412
    @blade34123 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing this behind the scenes look. I loved your original video.

  • @henrahmagix
    @henrahmagix3 жыл бұрын

    I LOVED your Canon F1 Light Meter video! I shared it with my photography friends, including those who started in the 70s/80s, and they loved it too! Really hope the algo helps it soon =)

  • @T0phen95
    @T0phen953 жыл бұрын

    Gotta love the intro. If I was drinking at the time, I would've spat my drink out.

  • @daltonj507
    @daltonj5073 жыл бұрын

    Cracked me up when you had to bring up after effects after talking about it in the original video. Really enjoy the content, have learned alot through your videos.

  • @DillonStrichman
    @DillonStrichman3 жыл бұрын

    I love you but your videos are so informative and your delivery is so adorable and your channel makes me so happy

  • @dscrive
    @dscrive3 жыл бұрын

    I must have been at work (48 hour shifts) when the original video posted, and I must have missed it when I was doing my daily "Scroll through subscriptions and add interesting videos to watch later". but, it's been watched now, very interesting stuff (I watch nearly everything you post) I'm glad you linked it here! Also, I'd be interested in a short connextra on that popup hot shoe, I reckon it's pretty simple, but it did pique my interest.

  • @radicalxedward8047
    @radicalxedward80473 жыл бұрын

    This is one of the niche pros of iOS doing live processing on photos/videos. You always know exactly what it’s going to look like while you’re taking it.

  • @user2C47

    @user2C47

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same with the stock Samsung camera app.

  • @Blake-jl8lh
    @Blake-jl8lh3 жыл бұрын

    that sucks about the algorithm, I loved that video. Tbh all your videos are beyond fascinating and that one was no exception, as someone who was born in the digital age seeing analog tech is one of my favorites

  • @DaveSomething
    @DaveSomething3 жыл бұрын

    pretty kitty! cat seemed annoyed too! "oh, it's you with your cameras..."

  • @petraoleum5816
    @petraoleum58163 жыл бұрын

    This is a *very* elaborate way of proving that your background isn't SFX, but it sure was fascinating

  • @truckerallikatuk
    @truckerallikatuk3 жыл бұрын

    And now, with a massive processing task to do, that the limitations of a modest laptop become apparent...

  • 3 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if you'd do a video on the history of video editing and it's technology.

  • @ralfbaechle
    @ralfbaechle3 жыл бұрын

    I always meant to record through-the-viewfinder video on my recent DSLR. Fortunately you sharing this video shortened my (future) learning phase, so thanks!

  • @karellen00
    @karellen003 жыл бұрын

    "I don't want to overdo it with fancy graphics" Has literally a 3D rendered background, that needs incredible editing techniques to just fake the picking up of an object!

  • @galacticboy2009
    @galacticboy20093 жыл бұрын

    The Canon F1 video is amazing, one of your best videos of all time I think! Even though they're all astoundingly great Alec, and I really mean that. If you ever need help with a project, I volunteer as tribute 😆 I like After Effects better than Premiere, because it's what I used first.

  • @familyguy0398
    @familyguy03983 жыл бұрын

    Hey, Alec, AE pro-tip, you can use a lower resolution version of the video for tracking (like, re-export the video in 480p if you have such large and visible track points), and then apply the stabilizing results to a null object. It would be WAY faster than tracking 4K footage, and then you just parent the 4K footage to the null, for future reference!

  • @nickdevost
    @nickdevost3 жыл бұрын

    analog photography technology is such a small niche and I hugely appreciate it.

  • @deefdragon
    @deefdragon3 жыл бұрын

    And THIS. THIS FREAKING THIS is why options are some of the most IMPORTANT things you need to program in to features. (the other, just as important thing, is for accessibility.) Even if its like six menus deep, if its a thing that isn't LITERALLY required (IE the option that sets the fact that the sensor actually turns on etc) it should be an option.

  • @aquilux-vids

    @aquilux-vids

    3 жыл бұрын

    Until we can tell the tech (and not a central server) what our intent is and have it understand and adapt, we need access to as many settings as possible. Don't take control away from us, you're basically telling people you know what they want or need better than they do at all times.

  • @sliceofbread2611

    @sliceofbread2611

    3 жыл бұрын

    there is a comment down here somewhere by George Prout about Open Camera, you might like it.

  • @deefdragon

    @deefdragon

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sliceofbread2611 not a camera guy. Just a software dev who gets in "fights" with co-workers and friends about "user confusion" when too many options are presented.

  • @user2C47

    @user2C47

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would even want to be able to turn the hardware stabilization off. It tends to start oscillating when damaged. As for configuration, I believe it depends on the product. Something designed to be easy, like the stock (and only) camera app for a phone for old people, does not need as many settings as something designed for power users, like OpenCamera.

  • @AndrewGillard

    @AndrewGillard

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@deefdragon [Also a software dev.] I totally understand the "user confusion" viewpoint, but all of the reasons for needing lots of options *still apply*, IMO. This is why I'm a fan of "Advanced" menus/Settings pages: keep the main list of options simple, so people aren't overwhelmed (especially less-technical users), and tuck away all the more complex and/or less-often-needed settings into an area that most people can ignore. You can even do something similar to the process required by Android to access the Developer settings if you're particularly concerned about user confusion (i.e. tapping 7 times on the Android build number in the system info section of Settings, IIRC). Search fields for easily finding specific options are great, too (e.g. Android's main Settings app; JetBrains' IDEs; …). A search field could even allow less-technical users to access "advanced" settings when following an online tutorial or being guided over the phone by tech support (or a more-or-less willing relative!), without forcing them to hunt through dozens/hundreds of settings. Of course, excellent GUI design can also allow deep customisation without presenting the user with a cluttered mess of an interface (options screens with 5+ rows of tabs… 😬), but that can be very hard and expensive to get right…

  • @lvnlar
    @lvnlar3 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos and the extras! Thank you for sharing, sometimes everyone feels like a dumb 🤣

  • @server642
    @server6423 жыл бұрын

    I never really knew how motion tracking worked until now, thank you!

  • @fredtaylor9792
    @fredtaylor97923 жыл бұрын

    Algorithm shmalgorithm... Your video was uploaded 5 days after I bought my first professional camera and was curious about how analog cameras worked with priority modes. I've been watching your channel since the beginning of the year and you just happen to cover a topic that's perfectly in line with my current interest. I guess i'm saying thank you!

  • @TheHookUp
    @TheHookUp3 жыл бұрын

    Did you try to use warp stabilization in premiere? If so, what was the result?

  • @MKhurramAziz

    @MKhurramAziz

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same thought - I would think warp stabilization would work atleast to some extent.

  • @martythestines
    @martythestines3 жыл бұрын

    I have my notifications on for your channels. So I always see your content when its new. Also, 2k views an hour.... Not bad.

  • @Gdawg815
    @Gdawg8153 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely appreciate your videos! As far as editing software I think that After Effects (in my opinion) is way more than you need and painfully slow to track two points on a video, even Blender is faster by a long shot holy crap! As people have probably suggested in the past Davinci Resolve 16 is amazing to work with. I understand it's another program to consider but I do recommend taking a look at it. Cheers ✌️

  • @michaelwitt188
    @michaelwitt1883 жыл бұрын

    So, I am subscribe on you and notify all on you, I got a notification for this video but had no idea you had another video out. I'm going to go watch it now maybe twice

  • @monkeywithocd
    @monkeywithocd3 жыл бұрын

    Hey, I loved the video. Thought it was one of your best.

  • @eladalfassa
    @eladalfassa3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video! both this one and the main one. They were great.

  • @funkalicious2002
    @funkalicious20023 жыл бұрын

    The comedic timing of this after the After Effects comment in the main video... *chef's kiss*

  • @websidedk
    @websidedk3 жыл бұрын

    Loved the behind the scenes video :) I have only stabilized a video once and had great success with DaVinci Resolve. I would recommend that you try it, if you ever need after effects again :D

  • @syber-space
    @syber-space3 жыл бұрын

    Hehe... I kind of felt the same way seeing Premiere after using After Effects for ages to edit. It's definitely different but I'd also consider it more friendly for doing anything that isn't a fairly linear edit. I learned off KZread myself, but sadly most of the places I learned from have changed a ton now and really don't make content like they used to. I'd recommend EC Abrams and old videos from Film Riot, AE with Mikey, Corridor Crew, and some other channels (sadly most of them don't make videos like they used to). Once you get used to it you might find yourself using it more for visual trickery. It excels there, though I recommend using Premiere for actual editing (I used to edit in AE and it was a terrible idea). Great video even if KZread doesn't realize it!

  • @AdultsHaveToysToo
    @AdultsHaveToysToo3 жыл бұрын

    I find it really interesting you started a series on film photography just as I'm getting into film photography. My Nikon N65 broke so my father in law gave me his old Pentax Spotmatic which is completely mechanical with a super simple light meter. I like your idea to get the view through the viewfinder. I never would have thought that stabilization would cause so much of an issue.

  • @SimonPain
    @SimonPain3 жыл бұрын

    I sympathise. I went through the same stuff when first learning motion tracking. Captain D’s Patreon tutorials helped me with some AE things but he also uses some other 3rd party tools alongside.

  • @SombreroGato
    @SombreroGato3 жыл бұрын

    That's a majestic kitty you have there. He needs to make more cameo appearences on your main channel's videos

  • @andrejnawoj8471
    @andrejnawoj84713 жыл бұрын

    Maybe it's just the use of "bonkers" but I get Ask A Mortician vibes from you and I love it. Like, hyper focussed interest in niche information and a friendly, well written (main videos I mean) expression of that interest. I dunno, I love it though.

  • @maxximumb
    @maxximumb3 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed the surprise of seeing you working with Tom Scott.

  • @bergermaestro
    @bergermaestro3 жыл бұрын

    Oddly enough this was recommended to me when the other one didn't even show up in my sub feed...

  • @recklessroges
    @recklessroges3 жыл бұрын

    I find the thumbnails with you on them easier to pick out and watch. "Ah! Its that good chap Alec. I know him. I like watching him." When its a collage of "stuff" with large clear writing with the magic black border to make it "easy to read over every color" my brain just sees shouting and ignores it. (When I eventually realise its one of yours it usually jumps to the top of my "To be watched" list. (Thank you for creating your videos.)

  • @billr3053
    @billr30533 жыл бұрын

    I feel for you with those frustrations about Adobe After Effects. I've used several image processors and movie editors - even ones made for the so-called "friendly" Apple that's supposed to be all made for creative / artistic type people in the industry. I have found similar issues - complexities of creating a "project" (sheesh), or saving quickly, or finding how to clip and move or import stuff. Everything is counterintuitive and mostly hard to find how to do the most basic things it seems. I don't know. I'm sure it's all 'user error", but things shouldn't be defaulted to being difficult and frustrating.

  • @mikecowen6507

    @mikecowen6507

    3 жыл бұрын

    As you pointed out, it defaults to "Apple user" mode. I'm sorry, but one shouldn't *need* a lobotomy to effectively use a piece of software.

  • @MichaelProtacio
    @MichaelProtacio3 жыл бұрын

    i'm so glad you posted this-was so curious how you got those shots!

  • @thomasesr
    @thomasesr3 жыл бұрын

    Omg, this video I love it! It's amazing!

  • @lachlanlau
    @lachlanlau3 жыл бұрын

    “Performing Badly” I love photography and cool technology, this video is one of my favourites!

  • @gevmage
    @gevmage3 жыл бұрын

    Nice you were able to recover the video. Well done using the tools!

  • @Tsaukpaetra
    @Tsaukpaetra3 жыл бұрын

    I'm impressed how well the stabilization correction correctly fixed the image as received through the viewfinder. I would have expected overcompensating to have occurred...

  • @Phroggster
    @Phroggster3 жыл бұрын

    I don't think I actually left a comment on your main video despite the amazingly forward-thinking technology that it connected me to (a partially-mirrored prism combined with the less useful portions of a night light; that's bonkers!), so no wonder the algorithm wasn't satisfied. I'll go fix my mistake right now. Hah, I knew your set was all created in post-production. Your skills with Ae properly illuminated that video without the nauseating effects that the dumb auto-stabilization introduced. You're now a master.

  • @Phroggster

    @Phroggster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh, it had the word "match" in the title... Yeah, there's your problem. Now quit trying to incite the arsonists.

  • @JoeXJoe
    @JoeXJoe3 жыл бұрын

    Well, I've enjoyed pretty much every video you've made on both channels. I watched this one, enjoyed it. Had to look for the other one, I'm not sure why I didn't get an alert, I have both channels set to alert me when uploads. Once I found the other... I think it's the only of your videos I've started and not finished. I'm not sure why. I feel like I've betrayed you on the smallest scale.

  • @TheJamesM
    @TheJamesM3 жыл бұрын

    I'm sad to hear the video isn't doing well - I enjoyed it and am really looking forward to more on the Canon F-1. I have an AE-1 that I love to use, and have occasionally been tempted to get an F-1. Being able to pop the viewfinder off is a prospect that entices me more than I can account for. I guess it's just neat. Anyway, my point is that I'd love to see more camera videos, particularly purely mechanical stuff.

  • @call_me_stan5887
    @call_me_stan58873 жыл бұрын

    Well great job! Thank you for caring about details!

  • @Eragon954
    @Eragon9543 жыл бұрын

    Chris from Explaining Computers said something that I love and applies very well here: "I wish computers would stop trying to be clever"

  • @tijn001
    @tijn0013 жыл бұрын

    I've been playing around with DaVinci Resolve for a little bit and the tracking is truly incredible, it works really quickly and is extremely accurate . The program itself is quite intimidating though and completely different from Adobe programs.

  • @RegularOldDan
    @RegularOldDan3 жыл бұрын

    Screw the algorithm. That's why I ask to be notified of all your videos. Now if we could convince everyone else to do that...

  • @cambrown5633
    @cambrown56333 жыл бұрын

    The irony of a phone-camera wrongfully over correcting a completely manual camera is painful

  • @kevinmonzel
    @kevinmonzel3 жыл бұрын

    I watched the light meter video right away! it was great!

  • @radicalxedward8047
    @radicalxedward80473 жыл бұрын

    I have your other vid on my list to watch. Just haven’t gotten to it yet. I like waiting for a few so I can have a bunch of them play in a row cause they’re fun to listen to.

  • @maxximumb
    @maxximumb3 жыл бұрын

    I went and watched the other video. I had been asleep when you posted it. I liked and commented. It seems the algorithm likes comments as the user is engaging with the video / creator. For some videos I like I just add a random comment that's vaguely connected to the topic just to show YT I'm engaged with the content, just to help out. I don't really have anything to say or add to the conversation and it's better than the generic "Great video, thanks for sharing". (I do wonder if the YT/Google bots crawl the comments and parse it for words that appear in the title, description and even in the video, seeing as the auto CC is getting better, and weight the engaged comments over the generic "thanks/great video" comments) Some creators ask a question of the viewers, like "I'd like to know how you feel about that" or "What's your opinion?" This open question seems to garner more interaction than a "leave your comments or questions below" kind of call to action. Anyway, great video and thanks for sharing it. The Follow-up was interesting; the weirdness of getting through-the-viewfinder shots never occurred to me.

  • @maxximumb

    @maxximumb

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also replying to other comments seems to help the algorithm.

  • @AtrumNoxProductions
    @AtrumNoxProductions3 жыл бұрын

    What did the Warp Stabilizer do with this footage? That is an effect in Premier Pro.

  • @GabrielKnightz
    @GabrielKnightz3 жыл бұрын

    I hope you do a video on QR codes one day. Also, you might like a video editor called Shotcut.

  • @metroboytartu
    @metroboytartu3 жыл бұрын

    I was wandering that going back in time 1967 to Montreal, Canada! World Fair called EXPO! It was a ahead of its time exhibition. Monorail trains, Soviets singing and lots of new ideas introduced to the world! I would like to see Your take on this wonderful occasion of "Future happening now" on that year!

  • @ChadReitsma
    @ChadReitsma3 жыл бұрын

    Sometimes, the best way to learn is by doing! :) Amazing job as always.

  • @justuslm
    @justuslm3 жыл бұрын

    I'm not an AE expert, the biggest thing I've ever done is add 3D Text to a drone video, but I can give you one major tip: If you want to export a composition with a smaller file size, you can export them via Adobe Media Ecnoder using the "File" menu. And while you probably know the following, I will still mention that exporting through the Media Encoder application is, in terms of the settings menu and, in fact, the actual encoder being used, identical to exporting within Premiere Pro.

  • @JarrydHall
    @JarrydHall3 жыл бұрын

    Long time viewer and sharer, first time commenter! Posted your primary video onto my favourite nerdy groups, I hope this pushes the algorithm. :) If I may offer two post-production tidbits... 1. After Effects is great but so so so slow. I can drop a clip in, hit play, not change anything and it's slow, sadly. Your stabilisation definitely worked, however it might be worth looking at DaVinci Resolve's classic stabiliser in "Interactive Mode" - even if only for the clips you need stabilised. I use it on shows I'm grading/finishing when I need to stabilise a camera movement but the normal stabiliser (which is pretty clever) keeps grabbing the presenter and incorporating their movement into the stabilisation. In "Interactive Mode" you can either give it points to track, OR a cloud cluster of a region (or a few regions) you select - this is my favourite method - then decide if you want X, Y, rotation, zoom stabilisation, how aggressive and how smooth it should be. Super quick, a bit fiddly but you can see results nearly in realtime as you adjust settings. Very speedy. 2. Exporting takes years to get right if you don't know all the codecs. Don't use "Uncompressed", it's just insane. On a a Windows PeeCee, I'd suggest looking into AVID's DNxHR codec (it can be installed and used in other apps when exporting). It'll provide excellent quality, independent of resolution with not insane uncompressed file sizes. DNxHR SQ (8 bit 4:2:2. best suited for average quality sources like a camera phone) is 4.1GB/min @ 4K UHD 29.97, and is likely to be the best for what you'd need.

  • @JarrydHall

    @JarrydHall

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow. KZread keeps totally destroying my post and turning it into an unintelligible mess... moreso than my actual message. I'll use several shorter messages to try post, because something is killing it. :)

  • @JarrydHall

    @JarrydHall

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you need better quality, DNxHR HQX is 12 bit 4:2:2. It’s also great for mastering and archiving at 6.2GB a min 4K UHD 29.97. If on a Mac, ProRes is wonderful and flexible. For your uses. ProRes 422 LT (LighT) would be perfect, 3GB a min 4K UHD 29.97. Is 10 bit and 4:2:2. For better quality or mastering SDR, ProRes 422 HQ is wonderful, near lossless. 10 bit, 4:2:2, 6.6GB a min at 4K UHD 29.97. If needing an alpha channel or mastering HDR content, ProRes 4444 is king at 9.9GB a min at 4K UHD 29.97. I hope this helps! Apologies for the KZread spam, I’d post my message and it would instead randomly post single words from the post. I love your work, please keep it up. This is my favourite KZread channel! Actually, not this one… the other one… you know what I mean. :)

  • @samanthamonaghan7579
    @samanthamonaghan75793 жыл бұрын

    Good to pay attention to other people's mistakes, not follow or do them, but know them.

  • @lexs.8222
    @lexs.82223 жыл бұрын

    Re: “This is connextras you dont get good polish” This is connextras, the name ensures we came here to be your redheaded stepchildren.

  • @mattgeek49
    @mattgeek493 жыл бұрын

    Having used After Effects in the past to stabilize 6k footage on a old and slow laptop I would recommend using the frame as a reference not the lightmetre, it is a straight and right angle high contrast edge and it will not loose track of the subject as easily and you can leave it to do it's own thing without worrying how long it takes and if it is going to give good results

  • @Bryan-ob9if
    @Bryan-ob9if3 жыл бұрын

    hey im sure somebody has already mentioned, but the reason your after effects file was so gigantic was probably because it was exporting to an .avi, which is not compressed at all. For some reason, thats the default file type ae exports to. Adobe does an excellent job making sure all of their programs use different shortcuts/hotkeys/workflows to make things as confusing as possible. There's no competition!

  • @Macintoshiba
    @Macintoshiba3 жыл бұрын

    I watched it! That's because I watch every video of yours. Because you dont explode my Inbox with daily "content". Quality over Quantity, too bad the algorithm doesnt know.

  • @ScotiaGaidin
    @ScotiaGaidin3 жыл бұрын

    Great insight and brill video. Cheers!

  • @Nicontrast
    @Nicontrast3 жыл бұрын

    TFW I'm ecstatic one of my videos gets 7K views but TC's 165K is a disappointing number - no but seriously, I loved the 1970s camera tech video, it was all the questions plus more that I wanted to ask my father when I was a kid about his SLR. And this video gave me a free lesson on After Effects which I've always stayed away from for the same reasons. Double win, thank you! Love your vids! :D

  • @helljester8097
    @helljester80973 жыл бұрын

    Old tech: Here I’m going to try to make life easier for you. User: Well this ain’t too bad New tech: Look how I made things perfect! User: Actually you ruined everything...

  • @SeanGarcia0411
    @SeanGarcia04113 жыл бұрын

    Don't fret about the video. It was amazing. The KZread algortithm isn't as smart as it should be. You're amazing and you should never doubt it,

  • @Keatosis_Quohotos
    @Keatosis_Quohotos3 жыл бұрын

    Wait, that's a special voice you're putting on? My reality is shattered

  • @Streamtronics
    @Streamtronics3 жыл бұрын

    So, here's a workflow trick: In Premiere, right click a clip, choose "replace with after effects composition". When rendering the video in Premiere (or I recommend exporting it into the AME (adobe media encoder) queue so you have a preview of where in the video it actually is) it will treat the Ae comp inside the Premiere projects like a clip. It'll load Ae in the background and render that. So no real need for large intermediate files in this case. Render times should be not too bad either as long as the tracking was done in the Ae project beforehand. However, when you expect to render the Pr project multiple times, it'd be smart to render an intermediate file out of Ae anyway. For this, try using AME from within after effects, and then choose a format like DNxHD HQ which is my preferred intermediate format. (The Ae internal encoder doesn't support all the fancy file types, instead of being stuck with some uncompressed AVI or even a PNG sequence. It also lets you queue renders in general from multiple adobe apps, which is great)

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