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@boardway

Жыл бұрын

ok, thanks!

Great video, very informative 🤙🏽

Yay for english content!

Your video listing looks very interestingly. More content in English would be great. Thanks

Hi, nice one, thanks for doing it in English! :) 1- I'd be very interested to see what the ultimate low end of the Hybrid is for foiling, using whatever size it takes. Another video of you trying to foil in as little wind as possible would ve great. 2- Durability. Trailing edge flutter may be 'usual' on single skins but it doesn't mean it isn't a problem. An update in 6 months or a year once you've put some hours on those kites (especially at school) would be appreciated. Cheers

@boardway

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment. For a lightwind test: We have to wait until the big sizes are available. Are you interested in lightwindtest with a normal foil? Because with a small wingfoil set like a 90l board and a 1260cm2 mid-to-high aspect this will be pretty low for sure. About durability: Yep! As we want to change from Virons to Hybrids in our school, we will see how it performs in a longer term. If you are foiler, the big sizes will be quite durable for sure, because fluttering isn't that strong in lighter winds. But if you ever tried a smaller size in really strong winds, fluttering gets pretty heavy. We will have an eye on this.

@davidflusin5705

Жыл бұрын

@@boardway Thank you for your reply. I'd be mostly interested in ultra light wind foiling (regular foil board with a foil wing around 1100 cm2 - I have a Lift 170 High Aspect). I wonder how the low end if those kites compare with that of strutless kites like the UFO for the same size. But I'm also interested in the other approach you described, using a wingfoil board to minimize power requirement for the waterstart :) Good to know the flutter shouldn't impact durability too much in LW foiling :)

@boardway

Жыл бұрын

@@davidflusin5705 ok, this will be easier to test. What I expect is that it will pull you on the board earlier than a no-strutter of the same size. But those kites feel so different that I suppose it will be more a matter of what feeling you prefer.

Thanks for using English.

Would be helpful if you could also tell us the wind condition during your test, your weight, and your foil setup. Thanks for the review!

@boardway

Жыл бұрын

For sure: So far I tested it in 6-15knt. Weight 85kg and I used a duotone spirit Carve 1250. I think I need about 9-10knts to have fun with this size. But relaunching was no issue even in deep water and pretty light wind.

Great vid, how have you gone with relaunch and other general use over the last 12months? Cheers, more english vid definitely 😊

@boardway

Ай бұрын

Thank you. I'm happy with relaunch. This weekend I've been teaching a 10 year old and this kite is a gamechanger for that! My main downside is, that it flutters more than the peak5. But I prefer the Hybrid, when I go wavefoiling with a kite (which is normally not the case). I love it for its use in teaching. This is so good to learn.

@Dazza5555

Ай бұрын

@@boardway THANKS

Thanks for review in English! How would you compare depower and upwind ability with the Peak? Cheers.

@boardway

Жыл бұрын

I can't really tell precisely, but it plays in a similar league. You really have a lot of depower, but as the peak, also the hybrid feels best in its lower windrange.

@sauce729

2 ай бұрын

@@boardway I haven't use my peak on water, but 6m peak vs the 7.5 hybrid, the 6m peak is way more of snappy kite. You can back stall the peak really easily. It's very hard to backstall the hybrid. Peaks are less stable than the hybrid and have more of a power spike. The hybrid is more subdued, which is great for learning and has better drift.

@boardway

2 ай бұрын

@@sauce729 Thanks, agree! I still have to get used to the Idea that some want the ability to backstall the kite, but this is a rather new way to play with kites on a foil.

Hi, thank you very much for the review. I am about to buy one but cant decide between 7.5 and 9.5. I am 81kg, 1200 front wing and am looking to get out at 9 or 10 knts. Tempted by the 7.5 but I heard waterstart requires a big effort (loops) to get out of the water. Any recommendations? Thanks

@boardway

Жыл бұрын

Hi Sebastien, I think that 9-10knts might be the lower end for a 7.5 and your equipment. But it also depends on the shape of your foil. If I'd chose a kite for 9knts, I'd rather grab the 9.5. If its more like shifting from 9 to 15knts, I'd take the 7.5. Hope this is helpful for your decision.

Thanks for the review n English. I am curious if the power if the 7,5m Hybrid is similar to the 8m Peak5. I currently have 4-6-9m Peaks and wondering what corresponding Hybrid quiver sizes would be similar. Also I am curious abot deep water relaunch, and would also like to see self landing demonstration in stronger wind, with backstall method and at edge of window. shoen und danke

@boardway

Жыл бұрын

We'd need more time to compare it completely (and this will be difficult in our winter conditions) but as far as I can tell right now it seems pretty similar. Deep water relaunch is great and feels much easier and less demanding than on a regular foilkite. Also it relaunches in less wind. I feel much safer going out in crappy conditions than on my sonics. So relaunch is really good. For landing: I don't really like backstalling these kites and would prefer dropping it and then using the safety system for landing. But there will be other opinions for sure.

@robertovillate

Жыл бұрын

@@boardway OK thanks for the reply. One of the things I likfe about the Peaks is that I can land it almost anywhere either backstall or at edge and feel very under control and precise with where I put it. Just wondering if the Hybrid will blow around a bit, andif you have to walk up the line to the kite to keep it flagged out?

@boardway

Жыл бұрын

@@robertovillate It won't stay on the ground as a peak because it is partly inflated but at least better than a normal foilkite. On the day we made the video i could put it anywhere, but this was pretty light wind. I think it's just between those two concepts

@robertovillate

Жыл бұрын

@@boardway it sounds lke a front single line safety is necessary then? Or can you disable kite by pulling in equally on both back (outside) lines?

@boardway

Жыл бұрын

@@robertovillate For sure you can backstall it. Before it backstalls it creates quite a lot of power for a little moment, but then it stalls quite controllable. In strong wind that's not my choice and I always like having a SFS. But in these days the ways of using kites become very different. Especially on a newer system.

Hi there. Just curious if you had a chance to try bigger size of hybrid. Looks like it is available for sale now. I'm just thinking if 11.5m would replace 15m Soul for extreme light wind foiling.

@boardway

Жыл бұрын

Hi, yes they are available, but we didn't find the time to test this, yet. I suppose this should be possible. But the way you ride a hybrid and a soul on a foil are very different. If you like fast and powerful foiling, the closed cell kites are way better. If you like light and playful foiling, the hybrid might be your choice.

@crocodile172

Жыл бұрын

@@boardway Thank you for the answer. I never tried hybrid (or even single skin like Peak) but I realize that it would perform somewhat like 1 strut LEI. Just curious about low-end. I have 1strut Cabrinha Contras from 5m to 11m and love to ride it. So much fun! My only problem that when wind drops below 7kts I have to use 15m Soul (as 11m Contra does not stay in the air anymore) and don't like its heavy/crazy pull. Just wondering if 11.5m hybrid will do the trick in such winds. Please let us know how is 11.5m in this department when you will have chance to try it. I like your videos - very informative and to the point :)

@boardway

Жыл бұрын

@@crocodile172 Thanks! Hi, for sure, we're going to test it. Anyway you should try a Single Skin or Hybrid first, because the feeling is different and kiting is a lot about how it feels. But for sure it will stay in the air, when a soul does not anymore.

Do you think a viron 8 can do the same job as a hybrid 7.5 using both on a wingfoil board with big front wing? Thanks

@boardway

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately not really. For sure you could foil, but the experience would be quite different. The Peak 7.5 has a lowend that I would say is equivalent to a 9-10 m2 regular kite and the viron 8 is more like a 5-6 (not in the feeling, only when you can get on a foil). Also the drift ability and flying in light winds are very different. The viron needs MUCH more wind to stay in the air. To put it that way: I personally would not choose a viron for foiling, except you like the soft feeling.

@jeffreybartels7058

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, for sure the hybrid then, thanks.

Hi nice video. I am 80 kg and I am in doubt about the Hybrid size for me. Wind in my hometown is 10-20knots, I have two large wing foils (1000-1225cm2) and a big board (39L). Which Hybrid do you recommend (5.5 or 7.5)?

@boardway

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your message. This is not 100% and both might be a solution depending on your conditions. A 5.5 might be not enough for 10knts. If in your condition you need to ride a 10m2 tubekite, I recommend 7.5. if you feel good with smaller sizes like 8, the 5.5 would do the job. If you have changing winds between 10 and 20 I would take 5.5. I like to use the smallest possible size on a hybrid while i prefer the biggest possible size on foilkites.

@madsteeez

Жыл бұрын

@@boardwaythe last sentence is interesting.. can you elaborate? Why do you want the hybrid at smallest possible? And why not with foilkites?

@boardway

Жыл бұрын

@@madsteeez I simply like powered foilkites. There are also some who like to foil with rather small foilkites ... But that's not what I prefer. The hybrid does not have the same dynamic feel, so it fits much more to the "light and playful" way of foiling. And for this a smaller size is more fun. Also the hybrid starts fluttering in the upper windrange and therefore a smaller size feels nicer.

@madsteeez

Жыл бұрын

@@boardway that makes sense. Thanks

I had several Souls a few years ago... 8m, 10m and a 12m. The 12m I sold almost immediately because it was just too big for my foiling on a Moses 633 even in very light conditions. I liked my Souls for a time but eventually went back to tubes because the turning radius of these kites were slow and big. Do you feel a 7.5 or even smaller hybrid would have a snappy turn like a tube kite? This would be in 10 knots, 72kg rider, on larger wave foil wings.

@boardway

Жыл бұрын

This is difficult to tell, because feeling is something that might vary a lot from rider to rider. The feeling is different to a LEI and a Soul. If you have tried a Peak, this is closer. The Hybrid turns quite good because you can use smaller sizes. But the main advantage is the feeling of lightness. If you depower it, it just floats and you feel not much more than a bit of vibrating because of the flutter. And it drifts amazingly. If you ride your LEIs with a lot of power and snappy turns (like on a waveboard), this could be something that you might miss. It's different and I recommend that you try a Flysurfer Peak (3 and newer) or Hybrid to geht a bit of an impression of the feeling and if you like it.

@kippywylie

Жыл бұрын

@@boardway Thank You. I'm currently on Ocean Rodeo Roam (Aluula) kites where the emphasis for me is exactly what you describe... uber light and snappy with good float. This after my 6 years on Clouds

@boardway

Жыл бұрын

@@kippywylie if you have the possibility to try a hybrid, please let me know, how it feels for you. It's always interesting to get more feedback from different riders. At the end it's a lot about how it feels 🙂

@kippywylie

Жыл бұрын

@@boardway If another demo day occurs in Hood River I think it will be worth a four hour drive as I am very intrigued by these kites. I can say that my Souls were able to be water relaunched incredibly easy if you simply stuck with a few simple habits

All videos of this kite i've seen - only this size of 7,5. Why? And looks like all sizes are on sale.

@boardway

Жыл бұрын

the bigger sizes are not available, yet. we expect them in the middle of december. We have the sizes from 7.5 downwards and therefore this is the most universal size right now. We also were able to try the 3.5 in higher winds, a really fun experience.

You seem amazed about the flapping, so that means you have no experience flying a peak?

Sad, testing the relaunch of a kite in shallow water, while standing... that's not a test, its a promotion video. A waste of viewing time. test in real life: deep water, (waves, current) , board,...

@sauce729

2 ай бұрын

I've deep water relaunched this kite in light 5kn wind and strong 25kn wind with no issue. It's very easy to relaunch and I've done this with 100% success rate. I've also deep water drift launched the kite (swim out, unroll the kite, let the lines out) and drift launched off a boat too. I've never had this kite invert like the peak because it's more stable than the peaks.

@ugge101

2 ай бұрын

@@sauce729 thank you for this usefull info.