FlyDigi Vader 3 Pro Review-$90 Hall Effect Pro Controller!
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While not the most expensive, this is the best gamepad from China's #1 gamepad company. At $90 this Hall Effect sticked pro controller has 4 decent rear buttons if you have a PC to bind them, and each component stands out as better than most of the competition. Despite this is a Switch controller, I have been using it on every platform under the sun thorough the use of converters.
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0:00 The Best Controller FlyDigi Makes
0:55 Unboxing and Included Accessories
3:27 Charger Dock
5:33 Dongle Note
6:35 Cosmetics
7:28 Price, Platform, Where to Buy
9:17 Converters in the Description
9:41 Comfort
10:27 Build Quality and Warranty
10:50 Dpad
11:16 Face Buttons
12:07 Accessory Buttons
12:52 Thumbsticks (Hall Effect Explained)
13:54 Gamepad Tester
14:39 Not all HE Thumbsticks Are The Same
15:37 Kontrol Freek Compatability
16:09 Bumpers
16:38 Triggers
17:01 Rear Buttons
19:01 Software/App
22:03 Input Delay
22:36 Battery Life
24:49 Connection Modes
26:20 Overclock
27:45 Cons
29:22 Pros & Verdict
32:11 Outro
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14:02 The controller does support d-input. - In PC mode, turn on and connect the controller - Hold [Share and A-button]. The white light should turn blue. - To go back to X-input, hold [Share and X-button]. The light will go back to white.
@consciouslasagne354
3 ай бұрын
oh my god thanks man i was figuring this out lmao
Nice, I've been looking forward to your take on the Vader 3 Pro! Thanks for covering it too!
THE review I've personally been looking for A LONG time, gonna watch the video rightaway ... 🙏
just wanted to say, thanks for recommending this! I've been using it for racing sims, and I love the precision of the trigger motors for subtle feedback. it's great for feeling the exact moment the brakes lock up
Just finished it man! One of the funniest ones yet and most appreciated 🤝
@GamerHeavenOfficial
9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@clyde-jw9kc
Ай бұрын
Hey, love the channel, great stuff. How do you connect flydigi vader 3 pro to the brooke wingman xe2. Thanks in advance 👍
Love your brutally honest review! scanning your vids as my guide for to be purchase controller.. thank you sir!
Not sure if you touched on this but what is the tension on the thumbsticks compared to PS4? I feel like they are pretty loose and I was debating desodering and replacing the springs with my old PS4 controllers for more tension.m if thats even possible.
I have the zoro edition it is one of the best controller I've ever used. The feels and the response are great for daily use, the only downside for me is the software. Overall 9/10
@m2ljay
9 ай бұрын
Just Picked up the zoro edition on eBay for an upcharge but I couldn’t pass up a great controller with a one piece limited edition
@percy4209
9 ай бұрын
Are you using the Flydigi SpaceStation 3.0+ software specifically for the Vader 3 Pro? I find the software to be quite nice and better than pretty much any other software for a controller I've used.
@joshuwottdelta
8 ай бұрын
@@percy4209do you mind what you mean by software I'm interested in buying but I don't know what faulty software would mean
@McVerdict
7 ай бұрын
What is the joystick tension like? I'm looking for something with strong tension. Currently have a king Kong 2 and don't like how light the joysticks tension is
@percy4209
7 ай бұрын
@@McVerdict Vader 3 Pro, or any hall effect controller really, doesn't have as good joystick tension. I suppose they are using lighter tension springs for whatever reason. The Terios Winkey is probably the most stiff Hall Effect controller I've used. It's decent, feels kinda cheap, but works well.
Thank you for this great in-depth review man, was also fun to watch. You clearly earned my Like and sub!
Not knowing if works with XE2 was the only thing keeping me from buying this controller. Thanks! Did you get the chance of testing the motion with a PS game? And how does it connect to the adapter? With the dongle?
Just got this controller a few days ago. It's excellent for the price (just £40 now!). It's better than my GuliKit KK3 which cost twice as much. Infact i prefer the V3 Pro to my Elite Series 2 and that cost 4x as much. This has the absolute best D-pad. All the buttons feel great (apart from C and Z which lack mechanical switches). The triggers feel FAR better than the KK3 when they're locked. Also love how this connects in under one second when using the dongle. There's no waiting, you can just immediately start playing, unlike my other controllers which all have a delay, especially the KK3 which doesn't even connect roughly 1 in 8 times. I get 480Hz polling rate with the dongle (just over 2ms) and exactly 500Hz with the cable (exactly 2ms). You can't go wrong with this controller.
@MadWinter889
5 ай бұрын
Loving mine so far, hope it's gonna be reliable.
@seanmaffia
5 ай бұрын
does it have a headphone jack?
@dominikrosiak8480
3 ай бұрын
@@seanmaffiano it doesn't
@dominatingrage2756
Ай бұрын
Where did you find it for 40 pounds?
@Hentirion
16 күн бұрын
the dongle start up is really fast under 1 sec. normal xbox controller usually takes longer!
Hey, just a quick question, I see on the web site that the dock has "enhanced wireless". Does the dock replace the dongle when in use? Thanks again for a great review, I did purchase both but the dock is taking forever to ship.
Thanks for the much detailed review, As an owner of this controller I have a few things to point out: 1. My dongle has the "Flysync" text printed on it. So its not exclusive to the Apex 3, perhaps just random. 2. Aliexpress delivery was quite fast, at least for me personally. Ordered mine for $58 (Shipping included) to UAE and it arrived in 5 days. Even though the ETA said 3 weeks. 3. The placement of the inner back buttons (M3/M4) are a pain in the ass. They feel very unnatural and uncomfortable to press, unlike the outer ones. 4. After each firmware update, you need to calibrate thumbsticks/gyro. But more importantly you have to calibrate the triggers as well when you do the thumbsticks (just press them fully a couple of times). The app mentions only calibrating the thumbsticks. If you dont you may face issues with the trigger button functions and hairpin/analog modes. 4. Battery level seems much higher than 8 hours, I have been playing on it for a couple of days without having to recharge. 5. I wish the battery level was shown in software, or as a Color of light on the RGB at the front as response to a command or a button combination.
@aristidesalt9268
7 ай бұрын
hey could you perhaps share the link from where you bought it?
25:59 You can use the control via Bluetooth in PC (I have this control and I have used it in this way). Once connected to PC, you have to set it to x-input or d-input (read the following). 25:08 The control have three main modes: Dongle, BT and NSwitch mode (think of each as a different profile) and when you connect it via cable you keep the same mode selected but the data is transmitted via cable instead of wireless (and you don't use the battery). 14:01 The controller does support d-input and x-input in dongle or BT mode (and you can change the d-input/x-input on the fly). Connect the control (dongle or BT mode) and you can switch from x-input to d-input by holding down circle + A until it vibrates and the color of the led changes (The white light should turn blue). To return to xinput mode, without disconnecting it, press circle + X until it vibrates and the color of the led changes to white . The difference is that in dinput it appears as 2 devices at the same time: a vader controller with all the extra buttons (c, z, the back buttons) and a second device (vader mouse) which is the gyroscope (you activate or deactivate the gyroscope with the circle button). NOTE: you can also connect the controller in NSwitch mode to a PC (for example to use it with emulators). Open Bluetooth settings on Windows, then add a new device, turn on the controller with the back switch set to NS mode, then hold the Home button until the small blue LED flashes faster (then release the Home button), then wait for it to show up on the Windows search list and click on it when it shows up as a NS Pro Controller.
@B-ROYalty
7 ай бұрын
Is this controllers polling rate 250hz or 500hz? I'm seeing conflicting info
@Damien2211
7 ай бұрын
What is the circle button? Is it the one at the bottom next to home button? To change x-input and d-input
@ruic4921
6 ай бұрын
@@B-ROYalty 500hz
@ID302
3 ай бұрын
The way how this controller could be connectred to PC it's a killer feature fo me! And yes, this little beast can be used as a X-Input or D-Input device in all avalieable mods: bluetooth, dongle and as a wired controller. Also Pro Controller mode could be easily activated via bluetooth an via cable. It's amazing cuz it covers all my use cases. I am really satisfied with this gamepad which I got for only 36$ on Aliexpress by the way (first buy + chinese New Year + Valentine's Day match and provide a really nice disccount)
@dbfuentes
Ай бұрын
@@Damien2211yes, the one next to home button
Man I've been waiting for this longer than I've been waiting on my controller and it should get here within the next 2 hours!!
@GamerHeavenOfficial
9 ай бұрын
lol, hope it lives up to your expectations my friend.
@ChiefBangarang
9 ай бұрын
@@GamerHeavenOfficialAbsoflogginglutely! Only Problem I have with it is that there's no 3.5mm on it
@Rock79529
8 ай бұрын
@@ChiefBangarangwhat are you going to do to remedy this? Lol
@ChiefBangarang
8 ай бұрын
@@Rock79529 well it was a good controller but I sent it back because I have to be able to hit all four back paddles at the same time. I sent my scuff instinct pro back as well for the same reason. But it's just because of the style I play
@Rock79529
8 ай бұрын
@@ChiefBangarang I use a dummy controller to remedy it.
Would you recommend this over the two gamesir controllers?
Been waiting for this
Great review
I got the One Piece version of this for a dedicated controller to use with my ROG Ally but it ended up just taking over everything. I have the dongle in my main rig/desktop and set the middle bluetooth option to the Ally so I can switch between the 2 on a dime. The Elite 2 does feel better in my hands but I enjoy the feel of the buttons and sticks of the Vader 3 so much more that my poor Elite's just been gathering dust. If the Vader 3 had an inverted option for it's gyro it would be absolutely perfect.
@ruic4921
6 ай бұрын
inverted for fly sim?
This controller is amazing! The accuracy of the sticks have probably gotten much more precise with revisions or updates or something, both my sticks are below 5% out of the box.
@bryank427
2 ай бұрын
thats nice to hear. if anything ever goes awry with my T4K ill def pick this one up. love they make a dock for it too.
Hi I saw another person video saying after 2 month used experience having stick drift issue on Vader 3 Pro. so far do you happened same issue at the moment? I kind concern my vader 3 pro also, since I just bought it and arrived to my home 3 week ago.
Thanks dude great review
which one do you recommend to use in forza and similar games. vader 3 pro? apex 4?
Got this a week ago thanks to this review and I have to say this is my favorite controller EVER! Works amazing feels amazing looks amazing !! Giving this a 9/10 only because I couldnt get the Dongle to work for me at all . Ended up just using bluetooth and it runs amazing! Also i wanted to copy you and get those same Blue Kontrol Freeks but they are out of stock everywhere :/ Other then that its a amazing controller. I ordered it on amazon at 11:55PM got here at 8:30AM the next morning with Prime shipping!
How do you remove the left and right joysticks? Do you just pull, planning on adding thumb grips.
Nice ! Bro, did you update the firmware ? Any good results ? Thanks for the video.
ive been waiting for a controller like this
Hey it looks like the first latency reading is the longest and really messing up the average. If you were to exclude that initial outlier. Would it probably be around 2 ms latency 500 hz?
Will you be reviewing Beitong Zeus 2/Big big won Rainbow 2 Pro/Black Shark Green Ghost/king kong Pro 3/Thunderobot G70 as these are all around same price/features?
Hi, what is the best controller in your opinion any budget
After viewing several reviews, and coming your way this one, I must say Captain, thanks, also It was on sale at the time of this comment on amazon for 67 US so I got it. My first pro Roller
This or the Apex 2 used to be my daily but I've recently changed to Beitong Zeus 2. Would be interested to see what you thought of that pad. Best software out of the Chinese ones imo.
Whats your headset solution since it doesnt have a 3.5mm jack? Im using it with a series x?
I'm interested in this controller, but I would like yo know if the motion sensing like triggers vibration works on Android games
Can you over clock the victrix pro bfg controller I've noticed that there's is serious amount of input lag even wired and wireless
I just got this and love it but my Xbox kontrol freaks don't fit. Are those a different size you have one There?
Hello good sir amazing video as always!! Can I have a request? Can you test the input lag of the Bluetooth connectivity? I will use this primarily as a switch controller. The input delay on my KK2 is horrible and I want to replace it. Thank you!
Did yours have horrible latency issues with brook adapter ? I had horrendous delay
Great review! Since price difference isn't gigantic, would you recommend the FLYDIGI Apex 3 in place of this? Looks better and the thing im mostly interested to is a very good dpad. But i remember it had higher input lag than this one.
@sirbaconbuster
9 ай бұрын
The Apex 3 has the exact same D-pad, and it has a good stack of cons when compared to this one. It does look super shmexy, but if I were you, I'd stick with the Vader 3.
Does the trigger vibration function the same as Xbox's impulse triggers?
what are those blue Kontrolfreeks called that you are using?
I bought one after seeing your awesome review and that you gotten it connected to the xbox series s but i have no clue how to get it connected. What do i need extra to get it to work PLEASE help .
my t4 kaleid has 0 drift and 0.3% circle error. did i hit the hall effect jackpot?
Does the software let you bind the extra two front buttons and the back four triggers to combinations or just single presses? For example, clicking Z fires "Y+B".
@MadWinter889
5 ай бұрын
I think you can do that with macros.
This review, along with a few others, helped sell me on this controller: got myself one, and now it's my main input device for Yakuza 0. Still getting some skill issues with Mr. Shakedown though, but some of that a controller probably isn't meant to fix overnight.
Thank you for your review - I wanted to buy this controller for Warzone, but I saw in the comments and some other videos that the stick slips. Or another model?? If there is another model, please tell me its name
alright now i am confused, because i got the one piece pro version and my xinput speed test always comes out to 2ms 500hz polling rate, this controller is weird.
Hey Gamer Heaven. Did you notice if anything about the controller has changed since this review? I saw people having some issues recently about calibration and those stuff
Ordered it, can I use it with the gulikit goku adapter?
22:14 my results via dongle are 480-497hz I think you need update dongle firmware and gamepad itself.
this one or apex 3 ? cuz im confuse which one im going to buy @Gamer Heaven
What kontrolfreek thumbstick grips work with this controller?....cause the omni xbox ones I have are to small
Can you use the dongle foe swtich so that the latency will be much faster?
what is the konrolfreek you use for vader 3pro?
Does the brook xb2 xbox converter still work with series x because i see people saying it doesn't
Do you have an overall list of controllers you have tried?
Using a converter like Wingman XE2 is there any way to use the Vader 3 Pro to play PS5 GAMES on PS5!? 🤔🤷
How did you find the extend thumb grip for the controller?
For me default c and z are for comfortable if you get used to it. Because you can use those instead of clicking on the stick which sometimes may push the stick a little to the left or right
Head to toe... tip to taint! Hey nice review, does this controller have hd rumble? Would you pick this or the kk3? Or maybe neither?
Hello friends. I'm Brazilian, so I didn't understand very well. What would be the best Kontrol Freaks model for the Vader 3 Pro ? Thanks
I got it recently. I prefer the Apex 3 but the Vader 3 is growing on me. BTW what Uncharted game is that?
Im gonna sound like a broken record but will there be anychance of review the nacon in the future
20:53 what is masked value exactly means for trigger vibration ? i tested that lower ( or zero ) actives trigger vibration in any range of the trigger , and higher values ( let say 127 and above ) make the trigger not vibrate if i press too hard( to the end). it is just a filter to cancel the trigger vibration when i passs a % of trigger range?
I just ordered one, I will mainly use it for fighting games, I love the D-Pad on my Xbox Series controller, anyone can tell me if the D-Pad on this one is better, equal or worse than the Xbox Series controller for fighting games?
Can you remap the back buttons on STEAM Input?
Great review, I pretty much agree with most of what you said, just a couple notes as someone who's used this controller for about a month now: 1. Got a link for those specific kontrol freeks you used? I bought some PS5 kontrol freeks and they wouldn't stay on the thumbstick no matter how hard I tried 2. Flydigi seems to directly sell this controller via Temu. That's where I bought it for 65$. Doesn't seem to be in stock anymore but shipping was only a week and I don't have any QC issues. 3. You mention a couple times about using reWASD to bind C and Z to PC functions like volume control, but from my knowledge reWASD currently does not support the Vader 3 or 3 Pro. reWASD only sees the standard buttons on the controller, it doesn't see the paddles or the C/Z buttons. I do have a workaround that I use, see below. My work around for this is to have both the Flydigi software and the reWASD software open at the same time. Map the extra buttons to keyboard keys in the Flydigi software, and then map those keyboard keys in reWASD to whatever you want. Obv there's no reason to do this if you're just doing simple remaps, but it's helpful if youre trying to use all the reWASD specific features. The Flydigi software does warn you to not use reWASD however. There's one major bug where if the controller falls asleep while you have reWASD enabled then all controller support just breaks. Like even if I plug in a different controller my PC still won't recognize it. Only way to fix it I found so far is to just restart your PC. Probably something weird going on with that custom controller driver that gets installed when you set up the Flydigi software.
Wonderful video as always; I appreciate your information delivery, timestamps, and humor! One thing - apparently it's by design that the C & Z buttons are membrane dome instead of mechanical. As you said, you never hit them on accident. They're more difficult to actuate (since membrane dome requires bottoming out) which is the same reason why mechanical keyboards cause less typing fatigue over time. I saw someone call that out on... reddit ;)
I don't have a PC right now water hit it. I really want the Apex 4 Pro but moneys ti as, suffer to pay for the Apex? Or bite the bullet and nget the Vader 3 Pro for now? How can I assign the back buttons on Android tablet? Does the Game Center software do that? Button assignments? Could you do a video explaining the Flydigi Game Center software. This will be my first controller for Android so I look at your advise and Pugh's is it? Yeah I respect both insights
Will this work in ipad pro m2?
hy i have a qstion can u plug 2 controllers in the ssame pc ?
Does the gyro aiming functionality work on xbox?
I feel like I need to scream this from a mountain top, it honestly may be worth a pin. A USB extender, hub, or splitter will fix the connectivity issues this controller has with the dongle. I bought this controller a few months ago and for the most part it's been fantastic. However I started to notice that if I wasn't right next to the dongle (within 3 feet or so) I would lose connectivity randomly until I moved the controller back toward it. It was happening A LOT and driving me crazy (it even had me looking at other gamepads) until I came across the fix on another video. Any kind of USB extension, splitter, or hub will act as an antenna to amplify the signal of the dongle. I have not lost connection once since I started plugging the dongle in through a 8" USB splitter cable.
I tried it but sadly left thumbstick is not great calibrated. I need it for Trackmania and most of time it is steering by itself from 1-4%.. have to return it
This one have worse connection than the Vader 3? I wonder if the Vader 3 you tested back in August was a fluke? As in, you won the silicon lottery and got one with a super fast connection? Even the Apex 3 have terrible latency based on your testing. I need a super fast controller but I want the Xbox layout. Maybe I should just learn to adapt to the PlayStation layout again lol.
Hi, I can't find the Vader 3 pro for a fair price, do you advice buying the Vader 3 instead? I am worried about the differences
@vanhne26
7 күн бұрын
Preorder vader 4 pro or you can wait for a month,it coming soon.
Mine disconnects randomly in dongle mode. Even if it's wired, if the switch is on dongle mode, it disconnects on occasion. No go for competitive. I have to play in Bluetooth mode or wired with BT switched on.
Isnt this controller stated to be 500 polling rate?
does it work with brook wingman?? ❤
Is there a headphone jack on the controller or any way to connect a headset through the controller while on pc?
@sodapopinksi667
9 ай бұрын
No. I think the Apex does, though
You mentioned for a dedicated Nintendo Switch controller, there was a 45$ option you recommended instead, which one? The Direwolf? I'm looking for my son for xmas, he wants a new controller since his stock Switch controllers are starting to drift and he doesn't like the way they feel as its not like an xbox controllers. I do play PC and am probably going to pick up the Vader 3 Pro for myself, so a matching one that's cheaper but just for Switch would be amazing.
@feintexp-2530
7 ай бұрын
Just go for the Gamesir T4 Cyclone Pro then
@ltyarv8071
2 ай бұрын
Mobapad chitu HD is also a very good choice
I bought the Vader 3 Pros but it had this annoying thing on PC where one of the extra face buttons kept taking screen shots even though I disabled the button.
how do i pair the vader 3 pro with an xbox series x?
Galera me responde aí se o Analógico R da direita de vcs é um pouco bugado tipo ele fica girando aí engasga e volta a girar sendo tbm que o giro pra esquerda é mais rápido do que pra direita. Aí tive a ideia de minimizar todos botões do jogo e joguei lá no canto do mapa e criei um hud no flydigi só com o R pra testar mas continuou com o engasgo. Não sei se é só no Vader 3 pro esse engasgo ou se é em todos gamepads da flydigi e tbm não sei se uma atualização poderia corrigir esee bug. Respondam aí se o de vcs tem esse engasgo pf blz TMJ 👍🏾.💖 💖
@gamerheaven Dude you have to review the Binbok ultra pro controller looks very good !?
Bought the controller immediately after I watched the video and I’m not disappointed. It replaced my dual sense edge controller as I use all 4 on the Vader 3 pro vs the two that are on the edge. I’d give the Vader 3 pro a solid 9.1/10!
@GamerHeavenOfficial
8 ай бұрын
Love to hear that, and thank you for sharing your thoughts
@SleepyWindex
8 ай бұрын
@@GamerHeavenOfficial thanks for the great content! Wouldn’t have even known this controller existed without ur video.
@Rock79529
8 ай бұрын
@@SleepyWindexI wish it had a 3.5mm jack, I hate the thought of having to use a wireless headset.
@SleepyWindex
8 ай бұрын
@@Rock79529 steel series nova pro wireless are top tier, if you have the money look into it I love those wireless gaming headphones.
@feintexp-2530
7 ай бұрын
I wonder which kind of experience are you gonna have with the Gulikit KK3 MAX
The versión apex 2 works on xbox series?
At the start when the controller was pretty new, flydigi pc app was pretty bad (still is) and would often fail controller update, idk if its fixed now but updating via the android app is pretty seanless and thats where I update it whenever theres a new version
Would replacing the hall effect sensors on this controller to the better 1% kind be enough to make it a better controller? Which ones "should" I buy? TLDR is the Vader 3 Pro top 2 under a hundred? (I havwnt had time to see the whole review yet)
How does this compare to an original Xbox controller?
please can you send me a link for the adapter to use it on ps4
Is there anyway to connect this controller to Xbox
Is this device works on iso 17 for pubg mobile?
Which freek kontrol should I buy to use on Vader 3 Pro? xbox or ps?
@firdaus9291
2 ай бұрын
Hey, you found any thumbstick that fits?
Is it good for fps games like cod?
Just got it in the mail today, and the left hall effect trigger was not functioning. I openend the controller to find the magnet for the trigger magnetised to some other metal component. So it fell out its place. Had to add some double-sided tape to put it pack in its place and make it stay there. So be mindfull when handling the controller. The magnets are just (poorly) glued in place, and might pop out.
How do I run a headset with this controller
Can this be connected to the Xbox Series X via dongle and converter adapter? Cause I used my Mayflash magic s adapter and it doesn't work on my Xbox Series X wired or wireless. How do you do it?
@GamerHeavenOfficial
5 ай бұрын
Yes it can. The Goku from a 8bitdo, the Brooke accessories XB2, and the Cronos, although I would stay away from the last one due to its terrible reputation and the fact it might get fully blocked in the near future
@MitchellVH
2 ай бұрын
@GamerHeavenOfficial I've heard many people say that the brook 2 does not work with this controller and shows as banned or incompatible.
@MitchellVH
2 ай бұрын
For xbox anyway not sure about ps5
Bro when's the Vader 4 Pro review coming?
Yesterday ordered the Gamesir Cyclone Pro, wondering how it stack up against the Vader Pro
@darkanamorphic113
9 ай бұрын
That looks like a nice one as well ... 👊😎👊
@adzooks44
9 ай бұрын
the cyclone pro looks like a really good value, but also only has150hz polling rate which will turn off a lot of people
@KatsushikaMatsumoto
9 ай бұрын
@@adzooks44 as I understand that is with the dongle, Bluetooth was about 200hz and wired 500hz so there are options if it’s really is top priority.