Fluid Freeride Horizon: geni.us/gOvB7A Segway Ninebot Max: geni.us/rhkI

I just did 3000 miles! On Ninebot Max, solid as day one👍😊

@colinkasiarz9082

3 жыл бұрын

how long have you had it for?

@adammichalec1356

3 жыл бұрын

@@colinkasiarz9082 12 months

@colinkasiarz9082

3 жыл бұрын

@@adammichalec1356 so worth the buy I’m guessing? Mine comes Tuesday and I’m debating on returning it. Your thoughts?

@adammichalec1356

3 жыл бұрын

@@colinkasiarz9082 best scooter for $ very reliable lots of torque after upgrade

@colinkasiarz9082

3 жыл бұрын

@@adammichalec1356 what kind of upgrade... The modded version? And have you had any issues with it at all? Ps thanks for replying ahha. I’m just hesitant cause I did spend $850 (with tax 😪)

I just love my Ninebot Max , the love from the first ride. I have it 3 days and i already cannot live without it.

@turboduran2531

2 жыл бұрын

The same it's the best scooter ever thank you ninebot max 😎👍🛴💯💵

Excellent review, my first electric scooter was the gotrax ultra, i work in NYC lots of bumby streets and there is no shocks on the gotrax and I am 57 years old so after 4 months on the gotrax my knees are killing me so I search watch all your reviews and just received my fluid horizon WOW what s difference amazing every thing you said was true on the horizon thanks brother suspension is key and the fit and finish on the horizon is very well made tks again. William the doorman froM NYC FORGETTABOUTIT

that ninebot maxed is just amazing. such a solid device man like seriously. i just hope more high end scooters are built like that.

If you are a beginner the Segway ninebot is a good start. For something much faster and more fun to ride the fluid horizon is the best

congrats to electric scooter guide for the great work and awsome reviews!!! i am owner of a ninebot max for 1000 miles, i have riding in very rainy days,hills and very bubby roads and is like the first day..it is so soundless and i think the quality is unbeatable even comparing with much more expensive scooters..

If the Ninebot Max had a speed increase to 24 or 25 mph it would be perfect.

I truly love youtube sometimes. This is one of those. Ive narrowed my research down to these two & the algorithm said "here ya go bud"

@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide

2 жыл бұрын

Nice! I've been tweaking key words to make them as relevant as possible. So hopefully that helped! :-) -Paul

I don't have a scooter but today I went electric as my Fiido D11 arrived . Love it

I just bought a Horizon and found the Electric Scooter Guide to be spot on. Really happy with my purchase upgrading from a m365. Horizon feels less mass-market and had a cool industrial aesthetic with lots of sloid black metal and large stainless bolts and screws. Huge fun-factor with this scooter with great carve-ability for this snowboarder.

@A1Bokeh

3 жыл бұрын

Have you taken it offroad?

@truthseeker6804

Жыл бұрын

how is it going now?

@RyanR3STL3SS

Жыл бұрын

@@truthseeker6804 over 1200 miles and still going strong

Just ordered the horizon after watching sooo many scooter reviews, I wanted something with full suspension but didn't wanna pay more than $1000. Really looking forward to my first scooter.

@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide

3 жыл бұрын

Congratulations! Enjoy! -Paul

@jorgebazan6052

2 жыл бұрын

Horizon owner here I hit 1000 miles today and still good as day one!! Enjoy your scooter!

@jubayarahmed342

2 жыл бұрын

@@jorgebazan6052 wow Great to hear that, so u didn't even get a flat? How's the battery charge holding up compared to when it was brand new.

@jorgebazan6052

2 жыл бұрын

@@jubayarahmed342 no flats yet. Battery still good. Running well. I live in NYC queens and I commute everyday to Manhattan. First scooter I owned and I have no regrets.

@jubayarahmed342

2 жыл бұрын

@@jorgebazan6052 I live in boston, I might commute to work once I get more confident riding it, not really scooter friendly here in boston yet lol. But I have been having great time, best $700 ever spent.

I bought the ninebot max and the horizon scooter. I'll save you the choice, horizon is better. It actually has suspensions that make you feel safe AND it has faster speed. Ninebot max is just built to make you last longer on the road, but honestly, the difference in distance isn't that much. Get the horizon.

@jhodges7041

3 жыл бұрын

i need more foot room the horizon is just too small for us big foots .

@Vunami

3 жыл бұрын

@@jhodges7041 That's a good point. I noticed that as well, but not a deal breaker

@catgirlow

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think horizon can ride in bad weather like the ninebot max.

@raulespinoza8668

2 жыл бұрын

@@jhodges7041 check out the evolve touring then

@arman8976

2 жыл бұрын

@@catgirlow You shouldn't be riding either scooter in bad weather. Take an Uber it's not worth it.

I just bought the fluid free ride and am 30 miles in. I love it and it charges fast and finally comes with a bell, it’s so damn fast and I rarely use it on its highest power setting. It’s not a beginner scooter and it has a great display, I’m super happy with it and has a lot of visibility at night. I did smack the handlebars on my head when I was folding it lol just don’t put your head in the way when you fold it. The braking was super easy to adjust with the included multi tool. I do wish it had a key to start because if you just leave it outside anyone can start it

I feel super secure when riding on bumpy roads with the ninebot MAX. The tires hold up well and Slime helps as well. The brakes work great, the build quality is wonderful and I get compliments all the time when out and about. I would most definitely get a heavy duty bike lock. I mostly ride without a helmet ( I know not safe) but going 17.5 mph is more than enough speed, especially on city streets. I would buy the ninebot max from BestBuy for their 2 year replacement warranty. Piece of mind for $8.60 per month for 2years. Totally worth it! Segway covers alot with warranty for 1 year as well. I have bought my second Ninebot Max and sold the last ninebot max scooter (after the warranty ended) for half the price on Offer Up with a defect (leaking tire valve). So great resale value as well even with defect. Super Fun Scooter! Great Alternative to purchasing a vehicle especially if you live close to public transit, your favorite shops and dining, work and grocery/farm markets. This is a must when living downtown!

Thanks for the comparison. Both look great, and I think I like the Ninebot Max better, but the folding handlebar would really help when taking a scooter on a train or bus trip to a different city. Maybe eventually somebody will create a mod kit for the Max to remedy that shortcoming.

I was a little intimidated getting the horizon, especially since I’m a beginner rider but I AM OBSESSED with my new scooter 🤩🤩 my rides to and from work are literally the highlight of my day, and SO SO COMFORTABLE compared to other scooters I’ve tested out. However, if you have a long commute the throttle does get pretty uncomfortable so that’s something to consider!

@Christian-fn7ve

3 жыл бұрын

Do you recommend me the horizon ? I’m not sure which one to get :( help please friend

@rickyjaramillo3156

3 жыл бұрын

I got my Horizon 2 weeks ago, it's awesome! And for long commutes if it's chill, you can put Cruise Control

@RennieAsh

2 жыл бұрын

You can probably rotate the assembly downwards, though you'd not be able to see the display as easily

@jackconnor2593

8 ай бұрын

I just ordered the new horizon and the updated to a thumb throttle which should prove to be more comfortable for longer rides

Thanks for sharing

I went with the FFR Horizon about 6 months ago after watching lots of your reviews. Loving it so far except haven’t figured out if I can switch from Kilometers to Miles yet. I fold mine while charging to minimize risk of messing up the charging port. Problem solved. Thank you for making such detailed reviews to help make an informed decision. Paid just $649 for mine.

@A1Bokeh

3 жыл бұрын

Not bad did you get it used ?

@aobrien609

3 жыл бұрын

You can change it to miles in the p settings.

@Barfly76

3 жыл бұрын

@@A1Bokeh it’s amazing at the price point. Plenty fast. And I’m a big guy at about 245, which is one of the reasons I bought it. Build quality is great. Thing is a tank. Honestly wouldn’t care if I had to leave it in KM. Doesn’t really affect my use.

@Barfly76

3 жыл бұрын

@@aobrien609 not sure what “p” settings mean, but I’ll try and look it up. Thanks.

@aobrien609

3 жыл бұрын

@@Barfly76 Step 1. Simultaneously hold both power and mode buttons for 3-4 seconds. Step 2. Use the power button to cycle through the setting. Step 3. Use the mode button to change a setting. Step 4. You can cycle to the next P setting by clicking the power button. P1: LCD brightness: Set to 3 for brightest. The drain on the battery is minimal. P2: Mileage display in Miles or Kilometers P3: Voltage: set to 48 for the ZERO 8. P4: Dormancy time: Recommend setting at 10 minutes so it does not turn off at traffic lights. P5: Unused P6: Wheel diameter in inches: set to 8 for the ZERO 8 P7: # of magnets on motor: set to 28 P8: Power Level: set to 100 to not limit your power. Lower settings could be used if desired. P9: Zero start: set to 0 for zero start, set to 1 for kick-start. I highly recommend setting to 1 so that the scooter does not drive when someone accidentally pulls the throttle. P10: unused. P11: Electronic Braking level. 1-5 but I recommend 3 or 4. P12: Soft or high acceleration. 1 is soft start; 5 is high torque start. Set as desired. P13: unused P14: unused P15: Controller cutoff voltage: Set to 39 for ZERO 8 P16: Zero-ing of the Odometer P17: Cruise control: set to 0 for beginners. Set to 1 for advanced riders. Cruise control will start automatically when speed is maintained. Cruise will turn off when the break or throttle is activated. Cruise control can be dangerous if you are not an experienced rider. P18 - P20: unused

Great stream!

I hope you guys get a chance to review the Apollo Explorer new resent customer improvements claims..love your show..👍🏽👍🏽

my max just came in today, i was wondering about this comparison about a week ago tho so thanks for the video

@colinkasiarz9082

3 жыл бұрын

Hey buddy, I was wondering if the max actually does go 18.6mph, I heard they reduce it to 15.5mph when they ship it to you.

@clintontheclinton

3 жыл бұрын

@@colinkasiarz9082 yea it did go up to 18.6 in sport mode, I unlocked it to do about 21 tho

@colinkasiarz9082

3 жыл бұрын

@@clintontheclinton okay cool, thanks. If mine doesn’t go to 18.6 I’m returning it lmao. Have you had any issues with your max so far?

@clintontheclinton

3 жыл бұрын

@@colinkasiarz9082 nah I didn’t have any issues, I did wish I had a suspension but that is one of those things I knew going in.

@ceffreyjastillo

3 жыл бұрын

damn sorry u got the max instead of the fluid lol

I think Im going to buy Ninebot as first scooter and probably buy Horizon around Christmas

I have the Horizon. Scored it for $549 earlier in the year. I love it... especially at that price. I tried the Ninebot Max and hated the ride. It didn’t have the torque or speed I was hoping for. The lack of suspension made for a rough ride. My legs would always feel fatigued even after short rides. I’m happy with the Horizon. I’m looking for a little more power now, but the Horizon is a fantastic scooter and recommend it to anyone.

@chrisb.1214

3 жыл бұрын

I guess different experiences with different folks. I took my Max out for a ride the other day and I felt that the large air filled tires did an awesome job at smoothing out the bumps. The ride seemed comfortable to me with no real complaints. I enjoy the Max, but I have other scooters that are similar to the Horizon too such as the Nanrobot X4, and the Joyor LR8 that I like as well so I can understand how you feel about it.

Hoy compre mi horizon. Me llega en 3 días, no puedo esperar más. Vengo de un xiaomi 1s 🤩

@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Enjoy your new ride. -Vosk

An actually interesting comparison here would be the Fluid Freeride Horizon against the E-Twow booster s+ (different name in US?), that'd actually be competitive and isn't obviously one or the other.

@arman8976

2 жыл бұрын

You're right that's a tougher comparison

Surprised you didn't give any long term insights since you reviewed both of these so long ago. Also Horizon vs TW Swift vs Touring I think would be more appropriate comparo

I have the Horizon scooter and it is alot more powerful and faster than the ninebot max with my weight 185lbs i can easily go 22-24 mph

@turboduran2531

2 жыл бұрын

Bro Ninebot Max is the best scooter ever .

@socomsfinest1184

2 жыл бұрын

@@turboduran2531 nahh!

This is all good stuff you guys are doing. When can we expect the full review of the Currus Panther please. Thank you for all your time 🌻

Love my Ninebot Max. The long wide deck makes it easy to carry passengers, and a simply firmware hack allows me to get to 23 mph.

Is there going to be a review on the 2020 touring?

I love this video! Round 3 lmaooo I don't care for the Ninebot anymore the throttle sticks and its dangerous.

@bend8353

2 жыл бұрын

Adjust your grips, they get pushed in and make the throttle stick

hey there. ive seen some websites saying ninebot max is 40.4 miles range. are they saying that's what you'd get if you rode at low speed and on flat surface?

Great video. I particularly enjoyed the really loud pulsing music that makes it hard to make out what the narrator is saying.

@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide

Жыл бұрын

Haha

It's god the video and performance

The Max Gen 2 has plenty speed and range, it all depends on what the person wants, def more than happy with the Max

@matchingchong

2 жыл бұрын

What is the max Gen 2? Is that the one with the new motor, or is that the one that’s called Max G30LP?

@RennieAsh

2 жыл бұрын

@@matchingchong the full size max but it has the new motor . The LP is a smaller, lighter scooter so it won't suit bigger people as much in general. I forgot if it uses the same motor, perhaps it does and therefore can go a little quicker

I need some sort of backpack or bag to carry the Horizon when I get where I'm going. Ideas?

Brakes are so important, those quick emergency moments where breaks are needed are a must for safety. If you live in metro cities you know what I mean. NB max makes the most sense wise.

@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide

2 жыл бұрын

For sure

Ninebot Max is the way to go between these two scooters but if i was buying my first scooter i would buy the Apollo Explorer !!!

@brooklyndude1983

3 жыл бұрын

The explorer is your best bet I have one and it is crazy fast

As far as deck size......i am a shoe size 11.5.....which scooter has the most comfortable deck size for my shoe size?

Great review! Could you make one with xiomi pro4 and Navee n65?:D

@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide

Жыл бұрын

We will take a look! Thank You. -Vosk

Hi ESG.. Have you reviewed VSETT Scooter? if not, could you please consider it

I believe fluid free is even planting 100 trees with every scooter purchase 😜

How does the ninebot max feel with bumpy roads vs an ES1/2/3/4 I am kinda worried about the lack of suspension on the max.

@kdsmurray

3 жыл бұрын

I feel super secure when riding on bumpy roads with the ninebot MAX. The tires hold up well and Slime helps as well. I mostly rider without a helmet ( I know not safe) but going 17.5 mph is more than enough speed, especially on city streets. I would buy from Bestbuy for their replacement warranty. Piece of mind for $8.60 per month for 2years. Totally worth it! Segway covers alot with warranty for 1 year as well. I have bought my second Ninebot Max and sold the last ninebot max scooter (after the warranty ended) for half the price on Offer Up with a defect (leaking tire valve). So great resale value as well even with defect. Super Fun Scooter.

@t3chnica11y5

3 жыл бұрын

@@kdsmurray cool the ES series was really uncomfortable.

idk, but when I got gen 2 motor from warranty, I could go 20 mph out of the box. And 22mph with firmware mods. Talking about the ninebot max Also, if I knew about the horizon, I probably would have gone with horizon

Emove touring vs Horizon

@foodlover111

3 жыл бұрын

That would be a good comparison test

Dose anybody know anyone in Philadelphia with experience repairing ninebot max scooters? Rear wheel puncture, bought replacement tire but when I went to change it, a lot of the wires are fried 😞

can you please review a scooter that look like the turbowheel swift but is from wish. I would love to see that. There $350 so its much cheaper but is it realy that bad?

@MrPacMan36

3 жыл бұрын

I would not trust thrusting my body around 15mph+ from something off of Wish

You forgot the ambient lights the MAX has beneath the stand.

Horizon hands down👍

@catgirlow

2 жыл бұрын

Nah it depends on person.

Ninebot Max rules.

Hello! Have you guys considered reviewing the Eco Reco L5+? Razor’s EX-R? I’d like to know what y’all think of the above scooters!

@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide

3 жыл бұрын

We have not reviewed either of those scooters although we have reached out to both companies in the past without success.

@chasem8491

3 жыл бұрын

Ah that sucks. Yeah the people at EcoReco don’t really back their product so much anymore. The Razor team back their products, but they’ve let other YT channels review their EX-R (Eletrek). Your channel is definitely more detailed and shopper focused than anyone else I know! That’s why I subbed to y’all! 😁

Which would you go with Fluid city rider or xaomi 365?

@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide

3 жыл бұрын

If you're looking for range/ride quality, we'd probably go with the Xiaomi 365 because it gets almost double the real-world (tested) range of the Cityrider. However, if you want a scooter that looks built for cruising beachside and you don't care about going too far too fast, Cityrider's a good cruiser because you're going right around 16 mph. Good luck shopping! - Trina

Hello, is the Horizon front tire, tubeless?

@kylemanor3036

2 жыл бұрын

I think it has a tub

I’ll like the max better overall value

The link for the horizon doesnt work could u provide a working one please

@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide

2 жыл бұрын

geni.us/gOvB7A?track=web

HORIZON FTW!!

@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide

3 жыл бұрын

Love the Horizon!

i have the ninebot max on order i purchased it because im in a flat city and i wanted something else besides a bicycle

@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Enjoy your new scooter.

Does anyone’s Segway ninebot max make like noises from the back fender

@MrPacMan36

3 жыл бұрын

This is a must have. kzread.info/dash/bejne/c4qtrsWAZNjfeLw.html

The ninebot max is the best scooter out there for me the only 1 problem is the speed what if it had more speed which scooter could test that, some people know how to upgrade their max and I hear no regrets

@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide

3 жыл бұрын

Check out www.nordbot.shop/. No one knows the Max better. -Paul

Where can I buy Horizon

@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide

3 жыл бұрын

FluidFreeride sells them. Cheers -Paul geni.us/gOvB7A?track=YT

Thanks Chuck! There is no way I would recommend a Max over a Horizon. Horizon is superior in all the areas that matter to me.

@anttmann6123

3 жыл бұрын

@mark bushnell pretty sure they don't carry it anymore.

@futmut1000

3 жыл бұрын

Horizon superior lmao, feels like a cheap plastic toy that will break at any time...I guess some people just dont know any better...And btw the Ninebot Max G30 is way superior...

@RCDevotee

3 жыл бұрын

@@futmut1000 Enjoy! I am cool with whatever people want to ride.

@pilz4566

3 жыл бұрын

@@futmut1000 you sound like a child.

@socomsfinest1184

2 жыл бұрын

@@futmut1000 maybe it is better for you! I personally like a 500 watt motor over a 350.

the music on the video is so loud can barley make out what you are saying.

Ninebot Max G30 V2 is my choice hand's down, and can be made Legal (locked) for any region's law

The background music is a little overbearing from your voice. Music, if any, should be half of what you have posted in this video as I'm trying to listen to you talk.

Which scooter is most likely to survive a crash test lol

@kylemanor3036

2 жыл бұрын

Horizon

How could FFR fk up the charger port placement *facepalm

@troytruong8246

2 жыл бұрын

lol ikr! just ordered the horizon. its otw. just fold down the stem when charging

The music is a to loud and a distraction ,

@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! -Paul

Ive owed both of these scooters and let me tell you there is no comparison to the the horuzon

@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide

Жыл бұрын

For sure! It’s a great scooter -Vosk

What kill me about these comments is everyone choosing herizon but mostly everyone you see had a ninebot max I barley see a herizon scooter and they have a wear house in Brooklyn ? I’m honestly caught on these two scooters I feel I should go with the ninebot cause I feel it would last longer but I wanna go with the herizon for the Suspension I’m just so confuse lol someone help me 😂⁉️

@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide

Жыл бұрын

Suspension is very important!

@bandobandzz3418

Жыл бұрын

@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide tru but I also see a lot of reviews on the herizon saying they sell it with faulty batteries most of the time and know myself ima use this scooter for UberEats so I need something that’s gonna last for more then a year

@truthseeker6804

Жыл бұрын

some comments are by company employees. ninebot has been proven to be durable. even now years after this video you would see ninebot max but not the other. this fluid horizon is the same scooter as yume s10, obarter x1, kugoo kirin m4, all are made in same warehouse and rebranded.

Freeride can't be taken out in the rain.

@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide

3 жыл бұрын

Hmmm.... you're right! I don't see an IP rating for the Horizon. The Max, on the other hand is our #1 pick for rain riding. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y6qpr7uso6TPg5c.html -Paul

Definitely not a fair speed test, with the proper(gen2) motor you can go up to 24 mph

@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide

Жыл бұрын

That’s with software upgrades. We only test scooter in OEM not modded condition. -Vosk

@jasonnelson1585

Жыл бұрын

@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I don't know if I would call it an "upgrade" as it's only unlocking the full potential of the scooter, plus what fun is an OEM scooter?

Or just compare a bicycle and a unicycle...

Whats the point of this pairing? It's no competition, don't need to watch the video to say emphatically the Horizon is better.

@ivorypoacherplays

3 жыл бұрын

Totally I just bought mine 3 days ago and it’s not your grandmas Segway haha

@JohnDoe-kj3dz

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve had 4 different GoTrax scooters and finally got a Fluid Free Ride Horizon about 4!weeks ago. I’ve ridden over 100 miles on it and it’s amazing. The charging stem comes with a screwing lock. Just be careful when charging it not to whack the handlebars or let it fall. Otherwise it rides like butter. Adjustable suspension with a turn of an Allen wrench (which they give you a small Swiss Army knife looking tool with 6 different Allen wrench sizes, flathead and Phillips screwdrivers, wrench attachment and wrench sockets for 8,9, and 10mm and some other weird key looking thing. Anyways it’s perfect to carry with you if you ever have a problem or want to adjust the suspension. As for the handlebars unscrewing on their own, I have NEVER had that problem. Solid scooter that kicks some serious ass for a good price. I haven’t done my review yet on the fluid site but I would give it 4.9/5. The only things that they can change is a higher front headlight and charger location.

@catgirlow

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, sorry man but I don’t think the horizon can ride in bad weather like the max alongside with minimal maintenance it also depends on the person like what?

two common thing these scooters have. 🐢 speed.

Background music is annoying

@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide

2 жыл бұрын

Noted! Thanks for watching.

What is with the ridiculous and enervatingly loud background music? Don't you guys know the value of silence at the scene, while trying to listen to someone talking? DARE TO BE DIFFERENT, cut planet earth noise pollution at the same time as we all e-scoot to cut air pollution ! Be an antipolluting mutant !

what's that idiotic background music?

im sorry but mid range is $475 now

Any 240lb + riders own either one of these?

@williamthedoorman9610

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I weigh 255 pounds and the fluid free ride horizon is awesome very well made

@kdsmurray

3 жыл бұрын

My dad is 250lbs, he rode my ninebot max numerous times and it rides great for him. He got 22 miles on it using Drive (Middle Mode-15mph) and 18miles going sport mode (17mph).