I was fortunate enough to have been able to visit the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome a few times with my boys and took them on a flight in a biplane that flew over the Hudson River Valley. This is a must for all of us who were interested in planes and early aviation.

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

This was at the American Heritage Museum in Hudson, MA. I had not heard about Rhinebeck until you and a couple of other people mentioned it on here, thanks. I will have to put it on my list of pleaces to visit

@sincerelyyours7538

Жыл бұрын

When my family lived on Long Island we went to Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome many times. Easily my favorite WW1 airplane museum as a kid because they used to fly their aircraft in demos on Saturdays and do a light-hearted dogfight between Sir Percy Goodfellow and The Black Baron on Sundays. I guess they still do, I haven't been there in a while. On my last trip there I took a ride in their 1929 New Standard D-25 biplane. Definitely a great trip everyone should do at least once in their lives!

@davidluftig4644

Жыл бұрын

I've done that also, great fun, with leather helmet!

@tommyw8576

Жыл бұрын

I have also been to Rhinebeck a couple of timesto see the airshows.

@billymoretti8437

Жыл бұрын

I did the same with my son when he was 12..It was great! He's 37 now and has 2 sons of his own which he plans on taking to Rhinebeck and taking that same ride ! (Hope he invites me ) lol

The airman of that era must have had balls of steel flying these machines in combat, especially with no parachute.

@williamvasilakis9619

Жыл бұрын

David, I completely agree. Reminds me of The Dawn Patrol with Errol Flynn.

@Vickzq

Жыл бұрын

Even with parachute... pilots still had to climb out and jump, or roll over. The first airplane with ejection seat was a special german nightfighter radar plane in late ww2.

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

@@williamvasilakis9619 this particular plane was featured in the Dawn Patrol, check out the history of the plane here; www.americanheritagemuseum.org/2022/08/americas-first-fighter-nieuport-28-restoration/

@coleparker

Жыл бұрын

@@williamvasilakis9619 Great movie. A remake of an earlier version. In fact, the last fighting scene over the target was primarily from that earlier version.

@ripvanwinkle2002

Жыл бұрын

the british felt that providing parachutes would encourage the pilot to abandon an otherwise saveable air craft LOL gotta love the british.. " we dont care if the pilots die. the planes are what we care about"

What an era. Surprisingly fast !! I expected more of a kite like other airplanes of the era. This Nieuport had thin wings where if memory serves me right, reduced wind resistance but we’re prone to shedding the covering and even the lower wing itself in a power on dive. I can’t even imagine flying this in combat!!! Ricky backer flew this and scored a number of his kills in it. Eternally grateful for the opportunity to gaze on this marvelous part of aviation history. Thank you all!!

@STho205

Жыл бұрын

It is amazing how fast motorized airplanes advanced in just 10 years. After the French got to see the Wrights' propeller and ultralight engine design on their Paris visit....everything they had been struggling with came into place. Much of it based around the fortunate accident the Wright Flyer was damaged in cargo and had to be rebuilt and repaired in French shops. European designers had almost everything right...but they were still using paddle propellers and car or boat engines in 1903.

@plantfeeder6677

Жыл бұрын

Ricky backer😂😂

@F1Hopeful

Жыл бұрын

@@plantfeeder6677 yes. Spellchecker and no proof reading is an awful plight. It’s Eddie Rickenbacker of course. Thought everyone would know. Sorry if I made slight of that hero….did not mean to do that. God rest his soul.

@37silverstreak1

Жыл бұрын

@@STho205 Sad but true, warfare is a great accelerator of technology. The biggest problem in early aviation was developing powerful engines. You needed big boxy lightweight designs with a lot of lift just to get a plane and its pilot in the air with a 60-80 hp engine. By the end of the war you had the Hispano-Suiza engine with I think 220 hp and the American Liberty V12 that put out 400hp. By the end of WW1 the German Junkers aircraft co. was producing a low wing monoplane fighter that used corrugated metal shins instead of fabric, so you can see just how fast things had progressed in just 4 years.

@panchopistola8298

Жыл бұрын

Can you imagine what most boys in the trenches thought of this machine ? Remember they still had a cavalry and most of those boys grew up on farms or in the poor inner city and had never seen flying machines before . What an exciting time to be alive .

"The Nieuport 28 C.1, a French biplane fighter aircraft flown during World War I, was built by Nieuport and designed by Gustave Delage. Owing its lineage to the successful line of sesquiplane fighters that included the Nieuport 17, the Nieuport 28 continued a similar design philosophy of a lightweight and highly maneuverable aircraft.. By the time the Nieuport 28 was available, the SPAD XIII "...

I have a piece of Lt. Quentin Roosevelt's crashed Nieuport 28 Number 14. It was given to me by my Grandpa who recovered it in 1918. My Grandpa was in the 32nd Div, 107th engineers company D. He built the first fence around Quentin's Grave. Its a piece of brass, probably from the gas tank. Grandpa fashioned it into a 'Crush-proof' for his wooden matchbox.

@dancingtrout6719

Ай бұрын

my grampa was 23 in 1918 in europe.. teddies son i guess he was shot while flying fighting

@stever4181

Ай бұрын

@@dancingtrout6719 Correct. The story goes he saw a formation of Germans and he headed of for them. He went above the clouds and was not seen until his plane came down. He was shot through the Head. Did your Grandpa talk about the war? What division, & company was he in?

@dancingtrout6719

Ай бұрын

@@stever4181 my grandfather was not in the war i mentioned him just because his age.. my family was in 3 wars though.. ww2 , vietnam,, gulf war....thanks for or story comment and Reply *******=======

@stever4181

Ай бұрын

@@dancingtrout6719 My family also were in 3 wars. WW1, Civil War, Revolutionary War. I was eligible for the draft in 1971 but did not have to go to Vietnam. My draft number was 300. Numbers 75 and less were drafted. Thank God I did not have to go. My Dad tried to enlist in Korea but when it came to the eye test they said take off your glasses and read the board. He couldn't. They then said if you lost your glasses you would never find your way back.

@dancingtrout6719

Ай бұрын

@@stever4181 awesome*****=====

My mother's mother was a Biship-Billy Bishop is a relative! Billy flew the Nieuport in WW I ! When I was a captain on the B727-we spent the weekend there, and always got to watch a Great show. Owen Sound , ONT is where Billy is buried. Billy actually was a hero, and not many people know, Billy pinned the wings on his son , also a Spitfire pilot. They both witnessed a fast forward in aviation. Superbia !! GDW

@hughculliton3174

Жыл бұрын

My grandpa was his personal pilot for a while in WW2, as they knew each other in the interwar period. They did a cross-Canada war bond tour, making time to stop at the best fishing lakes! I'll have to check the logs, but I think they did it in a Stranraer flying boat.

@ripvanwinkle2002

Жыл бұрын

he flew 11s and 17s not 28s but very cool story!

The Nieuport 28 was designed by Gustave Delage, built by French aircraft company Nieuport. First flight June1917. The USA was the main user of this machine, and becoming the first biplane to see active service with American squadrons starting in March 1918. Wish I had one!

Mikael Carlson is a legend - what a talented pilot! Impressive work by those that restored this beauty!

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

Mikael restored it

@arisaarinen8752

Жыл бұрын

Indeed! Mikael is truly talented as a top display performer and stick and rudder pilot, as well as a craftsman doing the whole restoration himself (including this Nieuport). His flying repertoire includes planes like the Bleriot, Fokker Dr 1/ D VII, Me 109 G to name a few. Respect from Finland.

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

@@arisaarinen8752 Respect for Finland and the amazing resistance put up against the Russians in WW2 and what you are having to currently deal with during the current war in Ukraine. Peace

@arisaarinen8752

Жыл бұрын

@@danam0228 Thank you for your kind words, the effort by the Ukraine warriors is indeed very similar to ours during that period. Peace mate.

My favorite era of aviation. I can't even explain why, it just is

@jbl7092

Ай бұрын

Same here. Can't explain it either. Maybe we're reincarnated 😂😂

@TwistedMinds69

Ай бұрын

think its the seat of the pants, flying, sometimes wonder how they get off the ground. especially the Nieuport :) love these

@user-rx5fd6po9z

Ай бұрын

My favorite too my friend!

Amazing flight. The pilot's proper use of the rudder was refreshing and very effective. Well done, thanks for posting.

Wow! I thought it was a big RC plane at first, it's smaller than I thought, also it's a LOT louder than I thought it would be and quite a bit faster. I'm surprised they would risk such a jewel! I had never seen one ground turned that way but it makes sense. Got to be a thrill.

@umami0247

Жыл бұрын

There meant to be flown to great a history to become a hanger queen. Yes it's sad when we lose these great aircraft but that is part of the mystic. You never know when it's your time.

@allangillis2033

Жыл бұрын

It's also not an original, but it's a great replica. I don't think any of the surviving 5 originals fly anymore.

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

@@allangillis2033 It's actually an original, restored. Is the only airworthy example. You can read about it here: www.americanheritagemuseum.org/2022/08/americas-first-fighter-nieuport-28-restoration/

@wirelessone2986

4 ай бұрын

Wow!Thumbs up to the comment!

5:42 I love the mind game that has to go on to get these engines started. I’m still amazed at the number of cylinders they have that must work in perfect fraction of a second synchronization. Marvelous!

@firebird77clonefirebird89

Жыл бұрын

Mechanically times with mmagnetos, I expect.

@plantfeeder6677

Жыл бұрын

If the internal combustion engine where invented today. It would heralded as the technological breakthrough of the 21st century.

@JohnWaldron-cm7ce

Ай бұрын

@@firebird77clonefirebird89 Reminding the viewers that these rotary engines had a stationary crankshaft with the prop connected to the rotating radial block. Since these engines originally used Castor oil as a lubricant, the pilots could contract the trots if they inhaled too much of the exhaust!-John in Texas

@DavidFerree54

29 күн бұрын

@@JohnWaldron-cm7ce crazy to think of those cylinders and all of their associated hardware turning at around 2000 rpm.

@Wingnut353

26 күн бұрын

@@firebird77clonefirebird89 the spark plugs themselves act as as the distributor points... there are no spark plug wires at all. Basically there is just a magneto or dual mag mounted on the engine stationary and it arcs to the spark plug at the right point in the cycle. all the cylinders fire at the same point...

My great Uncle flew these in the 95th aero " kicking ass" squadron in ww1 he would have loved to see this.. he once held the guiness record for the oldest licensed pilot in the USA ( decades ago)

@arthurbachmann3117

Жыл бұрын

WW I VETS...........

@arthurbachmann3117

Жыл бұрын

My coworker Spike worked at Upham Nursery until the mid 1960's after having endured WW I Imperial German gas and in 5hat day there was no VA nor promised WW I Bonus.............

At 10:43, kind of eerie to see the Nieuport fly overhead and in the background of the sky beyond, at 30,000 feet, a jet airliner with 120 passengers flying at 550 MPH.

@steveperry1344

Ай бұрын

wow, good eye.

one of my favorite planes, i built a plastic one and a balsa wood model of it when i was young.

Can't get enough of this stuff. Thanks for posting!

@duskintheforest584

Жыл бұрын

Like being at the airshow!

Thanks for loading this! What a piece of history! Especially great to hear that engine! ✈🛩😀👍

@Ozunth

Жыл бұрын

cringe

The Neuport 28 was one of my dad's favorite WWI airplanes, mine is the Neuport 17. What a SWEET, SWEET SOUND that rotary engine makes.

Simply Wonderful. Awesome engine sound. Thanks for showing us this absolute gem.

Such a good design that it still flies 100 years later

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

With original engine no less

@TeenWithACarrotIDK

Жыл бұрын

@@danam0228 have any changes been made to the engine, any replacements?

@2fly59

2 ай бұрын

@@TeenWithACarrotIDKyes of course, and now it’s called SNECMA and fitted on Airbus aircraft.😉

Whoever recorded this did an EXCELLENT job with the sound, excellent.

@danam0228

Ай бұрын

Really? I just used my phone

When France explained to Americans how to make a modern war.

That was mesmerising. and for the first time I was actually able to understand the sound of the engine... especially in the air. Just fantastic. Kudos Kudos Kudos to the people who keep it flying.

It may have not been the best, but I think the Nieuport 28 is probably the most elegant of all WW1 fighters. What a beautiful airplane, and Mikael handles it like an artist!

I had a 5/8-Scale Nieuport 17 Replica. It was really fun to fly. It had a bigger rudder which turned out to be the primary flying control. If you didn't watch the ball, the ailerons lost grip and the only way to break the incipient spin was to apply lots of rudder. I had many dogfights patrolling the Canadian/US border.:)

I was 3-years old when my Dad took me up in one of those. He let me crawl out on the wing and sit between the struts. I'll never forget it!!

I fondly remember Old Rhinebeck and Cole Palin. We had a program signed by the old "Black Baron" himself. What a great place and great memories.

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

This was actually at the American Heritage Museum in Hudson, MA. I only heard about Rhinebeck from viewers in the comment section after posting this video, and it does sound truly great. I hope to make it out there sometime in the not too distant future. Although the American Heritage Museum is a great place to visit, it is not focused on planes as much as Rhinebeck. It also has a very nice collection of cars and a pretty extensive collection of tanks.

@morlock2086

Жыл бұрын

@@danam0228 Thank You. I know your vid was from AHM. Old Rhinebeck is/was a great place. Cole Palin (long gone RIP) had a great flying museum as well as static displays including some stuff built for films.

My grandfather was in WW1 and thank you for putting this together

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure. Was easy peasy 😊

@csnide6702

Жыл бұрын

how old are you ..? 106..?

Congratulations to the pilot fantastic airmanship and engine management a real pleasure to watch a craftsman at work

Just viewed this not long after re-reading my original copy of Eddie Rickenbacker's book Fighting the Flying Circus from 1919. The 28 was the plane he flew first before the Spad. This is a fantastic book, a great read even today. Really puts you in the cockpit and gives you a feel for what it was like. One thing they did not want to be was "late to the party" their slang for a dogfight.

@thedude7450

Жыл бұрын

Eddie’s book was excellent. If you can find them, Jimmy Hall wrote 2 great books on his time in WW1. The first is called Kitchener’s Mob, about his time in the infantry. The second when he became a pilot, High Adventure: A Narrative of Air Fighting in France. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Norman_Hall

Excellent quality video! But I am not sure why it is listed as American? Nieuport was a French designed and made aeroplane which came out in 1917. Chris B.

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

It is listed as American because it was part of the American armed forces. You can read up on iit more here: www.americanheritagemuseum.org/2022/08/americas-first-fighter-nieuport-28-restoration/

@patrickbarrett5650

Жыл бұрын

And it’s sporting French roundels on the wings.

@funkybassguy68

Жыл бұрын

It is the first aircraft used by American pilots in WW1 as a nation at war as of March 1918

@robertsklenka5823

Жыл бұрын

I guess we bought them ( from France ) so they were ours. Too bad it has French markings .

@andrewwaller5913

Жыл бұрын

@@robertsklenka5823 That's how they were painted in WW1. It has the Hat in the ring emblem of the 94th Aero Squadron, based in France in 1918, who flew Nieuport 28 and Spad aircraft.

Nice landing with all or nothing engine. Sounds fabulous.Great flying. Great record. Thanks.

EEhhhh...! Beautiful! Thanks for posting!

These were followed by the SPAD XIII in early April, 1918. My grandfather was a crew chief for the 94th Aero Squadron, USAAS during this period. By American they mean an AC used to equip US forces. In this case designed and built in France.

@laurentbrochard5166

Жыл бұрын

and built by Bréguet

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

They had a reproduction SPAD VII from 1916 at the American Heritage Museum the same day and flew just before the Nieuport 28 did. I recorded it, bit it came out bad

@gastonlefier3144

Жыл бұрын

I am French but I understood that the title of the video meant "used by" and not "created by" or "American"!

@Dog.soldier1950

Жыл бұрын

@@gastonlefier3144 HI. Over here we have a bit of a misconception that during the Great War the USA acted as great producer of war machinery and munitions. In fact the USA was woefully unprepared for the conflict, for a number of political reasons. A positive came out off this as the then assistant Secretary of the Navy saw this lack of preparation and when war loomed again he, FDR, prepared the country to be ready to fight a global conflict

@dhstadt

Жыл бұрын

@@Dog.soldier1950 Actually at the beginning of WWII we were ill equipped when it came to aircraft. We did react quickly as in the case of the P51 but going in we weren't much of a threat in the air.

Wow what an absolute privilege to see that in action, never mind being the pilot!!

Beautiful, simply beautiful. Thank you.

Absolutely beautiful! Brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for restoring such wonderful aircraft history.

@danam0228

Ай бұрын

Visit the American Heritage Museum which has this plane and some other planes from before and after WW1, or visit another museum near you that has planes like this

@billwendell6886

29 күн бұрын

Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome. Lots of vids here. And worth a visit. Also Golden Age Air Museum in Pennsylvania.

Interesting fact: this plane had a ROTARY Engine. This is the first generation (or two, depending how you count generations) of Radial Engines! Due to the metallurgy of the time, they couldn't prevent the metals from getting too hot and weakening in an air-cooled engine if it was mounted in what we think of the standard way to mount engines. So, they bolted the engine's crankcase to the propeller and bolted the crankshaft to the firewall. At about 5:40 you can see the engine rotated as the ground crew "hand over the engine one and a half times" or "pull three and a half blades" before trying to start the engine. You can also see why so many early ground crew didn't always have all of their fingers, and in some cases missing an entire hand! This is also why a few engines were more popular with people because you started them by flipping them in the opposite direction to start them! The magneto would fire just before "top dead center" of whatever cylinder it was and give just enough "ummph" to get the next cylinder to fire. Then as the engine started, the ignition timing shifted to give the engine maximum performance.

Thank you for this...excellent video!

the effect of frame rate on prop visualization always fascinates me

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

Lol, digital cameras are definitely not very good with regard to propellers

@RideAcrossTheRiver

Жыл бұрын

@@danam0228 Funny how film was much more realistic!

The Nieuport to me among the most beautiful WW1 aircraft!

@jackdaniel7465

2 ай бұрын

I agree!👍🇺🇸

@ggousier

Ай бұрын

SPAD was better.

@johnarnold893

28 күн бұрын

@@ggousier Sopwith Camel had more kills than the Spad.

@ggousier

28 күн бұрын

@@johnarnold893 More kills and more loss maybe too ?

09:35 - loved how the butterfly cruised into the frame...the butterfly factor!

This is a rotary engine and not your 'common' radial. The cylinders and crankcase rotate around the crankshaft. This created an incredible gyroscopic effect and resulting rudder corrections. The Gnome engine generated over 150 hp.

That was quite impressive! Especially the way it ran.

This looked like an engine whose cylinders rotated while the crankshaft stayed motionless. Beautiful old bird.

@stevemiller7433

Жыл бұрын

rotary engines. crankshaft fixed to the plane, prop fixed to the engine. The spinning cylinders cooled the engine.

And to think the Wright brothers had their first flight just 15 years prior to the Neiport first fly, that’s insane.

@mr-uc4me

Жыл бұрын

War moves progress along pretty quickly. Read an interesting fact about the Avro Vulcan - first flown only 11 years after the first flight if the Lancaster.

When the pilot and the aircraft are almost the same age you know this man Knows his STUFF !! Very impressive , Thank You Sir !

masterful flying when you consider there's no throttle..... either full blast or nothing..... seems they have a gentle interrupter which gives a sort of idle..? also the gyroscopic action of the engine giving the pilot more to worry about.... bloody magic Mate!

@MyFabian94

Жыл бұрын

It has a Blip Switch that cuts all ignition but also, instead of a Throttle an Ignition Modulator that had 4 Settings, 1 in 4, 2 in 4, 3 in 4 and 4 in 4 Ignitions, meaning that at idle only every 4th Cylinder would fire, with intermediate steps until it would ignite all cylinders all the time. Of course, this isn't a throttle, meaning if only every 4th Cylinder had Ignition, the other 3 would still always get a full charge of Air and Fuel, meaning it had no Effect on Fuel Consumption and was purely for Landing and Taxiing.

@MyFabian94

Жыл бұрын

Having an Actual Throttled Carburettor wasn't possible as these were Lubricated like 2 Strokes, with Oil mixed in the Fuel. No Throttle = No Lubrication. Automatic Lubricators weren't reliable at that point. The German Oberursel Engines at first used an even weirder/worse Throttling Type by having a Carburettor that would have Air and Fuel in seperated Channels, basically like a comically oversized Idle Circuit for the Fuel and a simple Throttle for the Air. Reducing Throttle only decreased the incoming Air but Fuel had to be reduced/leaned manually and with a seperate Control. In Flight this proved to be so impractical, and convoluted to use that at some point in 1917 they switched to conventional Carburettors but Pilots were forbidden from reducing throttle to below about 75% Power, with a Gate installed on the Throttle Levers to make accidental Throttle Reduction impossible. This did however allow for low Idle Speeds on the Ground without an Ignition as complicated as on the Nieuport.

@transistor754

Жыл бұрын

@@MyFabian94 wow, thanks!

@ripvanwinkle2002

Жыл бұрын

its literally the magneto kill switch. they "blip" the ignition on and off..

Thanks to Cole Palen for rescuing all those planes from Roosevelt field so many years ago. Old Rhinebeck field is an American TREASURE. Original aircraft, NOT reproductions!

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

This was actually at the American Heritage Museum in Hudson, MA. Have been hearing a lot about Rhinebeck since posting this video and plan on going there sometime

@whalesong999

Жыл бұрын

@@danam0228 Yes, I recognized that this wasn't the Rhinebeck field, have been there many times in past years. Actually saw Cole Palen fly some and saw his fine DVII run and fly with its original engine which was a treat. Seeing it start by cranking the magneto was a particularly great sight. The Nieuport 28 to me was the prettiest of the WW1 planes but I give a nod to the SPAD as being the most mechanically advanced.

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

@@whalesong999 yup, the SPAD VIII is considered to be the best of WW1

I was there to witness this flight. They also have amazing exhibits of aircraft, cars, tanks and much more!

Fantastic video, thank you for sharing.

Perfectly timed to see this as I'm reading Eddie Rickenbacker's "Fighting the Flying Circus" gives me a great visual

Fantastic sight, thank you. 👏🏻

I love the 28, but my favorite was the SPAD VII with the Hispano-Suiza V8 engine.

My great uncle Jim was a mechanic in the American army air corps at Orly field near Paris during WW1. He said if a pilot didn’t want to fly, he’d kick holes in the fabric on his plane.

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

Lol

Damn. That engine is perfectly tuned. Started right up and runs perfect on all selectors.

@danam0228

Ай бұрын

Yup, and what's really amazing is that it's the original engine, all major parts

My ultimate Favorite WW I aircraft. Spads, Sopwith, Fokker... Nothing compares in my eyes.

@RideAcrossTheRiver

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget the redoubtable SE5!

The Nieuport 28 C.1, a French biplane fighter aircraft flown during World War I, was built by Nieuport and designed by Gustave Delage.

@danam0228

29 күн бұрын

Yup, but this example and many like her were owned and operated by Americans, hence "America's"

Le Rhone engine can you imagine the right pedal required to keep this thing flying straight?? Plus valves spewing castor oil in your face the entire flight ....incredible ball-bearings these pilots had.

Is this clip from Rhinebeck New York? I've been there a couple of times it's a fantastic experience. I love vintage aircraft. I built several, radio control models, pretty large ones. I enjoy flying them, and they look great in the air. Thank you for this post. Today is December 9th 2022

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

It is from the American Heritage Museum in Hudson, MA. Kudos to you for building radio control models. You can read more about this plane here: www.americanheritagemuseum.org/2022/08/americas-first-fighter-nieuport-28-restoration/

👍👍👍👍👍👍 AWESOME! Thanks for sharing.

In 1903, the Wright Brothers invented the airplane. 11 years later, we were using them to kill each other. That's gotta be some kind of record.

@danam0228

Ай бұрын

Lol, probably gun powder was quicker as someone most likely found out accidentally, got blown up like Wyle E Coyote

@patrick82400

22 күн бұрын

Le 9 octobre 1890, dans le parc d'un château proche de Paris, Clément Ader (49 ans) s'élève au-dessus du sol à bord d'un engin à moteur et à hélice. Dénommé Éole, cet engin en forme de chauve-souris permet à l'inventeur français d'accomplir un bond de 50 mètres... À quelques dizaines de centimètres de hauteur. La performance semble modeste mais c'est la première fois qu'un homme réussit à s'envoler à bord d'une machine plus lourde que l'air et non d'un aérostat (ballon). Ingénieur aux Chemins de fer du Midi, Clément Ader a conçu son appareil en observant le vol des roussettes (une variété de chauve-souris). Il l'a baptisé «avion».

The P-factor must be wicked with that engine.

What a beautiful piece of living history.

Magnificent! Still flying, and must be pushing 110 years old at this stage. Lovely job by the restorer/pilot. Not forgetting the ground crew - I love that 'human-assisted u-turn at 7:30! I guess that's how they did it back in WW1 as well. I remember 'flying' the good old Nieup 28 in Red Baron 3D, it was my favourite plane in that game. Anyone else remember that game? It wonderfully evoked those days when aviation was simple: "Stick go forward, houses get big. Stick go back, houses get small." 🤣 Anyway, it's really something to finally see one of them for real, thank you so much for letting us see this slice of history. This video is probably the closest I'll ever get to one of these amazing planes.

@danam0228

19 күн бұрын

You're welcome. I first put this out as easy way to share with my kids who did not want to go with me on this day. You can read about it's story at the museum web site. Might need to turn phone sideways to be able to read it www.americanheritagemuseum.org/aircrafts/nieuport-28/

@GneasYTC

18 күн бұрын

@@danam0228 Thanks for the link, very interesting!

@danam0228

18 күн бұрын

@@GneasYTC you're welcome

Nice job! Excellent video and sound... even if you missed a bit. Makes your appreciate how hard these were to fly... look at all those tall tree in the way.

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

Lol, yeah, we have a lot of trees here in New England

Wow, what a beautiful little airplane!

I’ve flown in a biplane 4 or 5 times. The whistle of the guy wires is awesome. The pilot asked if I was OK for some fun. I gave him the thumbs up and he did a few barrel rolls. My wife was screaming. Ha!

@danam0228

Ай бұрын

Lol, sounds like a lot of fun

a primer on how not to prop start an airplane. Never wrap your fingers around the back of a propeller. Use the flat of your hand against the airfoil so you can get out of the way faster.

That climb is something else.... Like a homesick angel.

@danam0228

Ай бұрын

Lol, nice one

That is one incredibly brave and talented pilot. I can't imagine flying that death trap back in the old days. The material science and technology was bleeding edge back then. I'm not a safety Sally but wow lots of skill and fairly dangerous.

@Glicksman1

Жыл бұрын

I understand why you might think of this and many of the airplanes of WWI that way, but it's somewhat of an exaggeration. Casualties incurred in these airplanes were mostly from combat and inadequate training. They were simple and quite sturdy, even though they may not look so to the uninitiated. Sure, as with any airplane and other powerful devices, there were accidents, some of them fatal, but not as many as you might imagine. Yes, the early airplanes were primitive compared to what came later, but most of them fly sedately and reliably, including this beautiful Niewport 28 as you can see. No one today would unduly risk their lives flying them in a show if this were not so. They are not inherently dangerous, or "deathtraps." Of course, if it adds to your enjoyment to think of them that way when seeing them fly, then by all means, think of them as you wish.

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

The pilot is the same person who restored the plane, so he felt pretty confident flying it I'm sure. He has restored and flown several other aircraft. You can read about him here: aerodrome.se/?page_id=71

@robkunkel8833

Жыл бұрын

@@Glicksman1 … Thank you. “Deathtrap” … come on. As a baby boomer, younger people seem to find a fear with anything. They can’t travel without guaranteed accommodations and reservations, every step of the way. This is a biplane and it can cruise for a long time to find a landing location for a safe landing at a fairly slow speed.

@Glicksman1

Жыл бұрын

@@robkunkel8833 I'm with you about the airplanes, but I'll remain neutral regarding the generational stuff. I don't like to generalize. Some, maybe many of today's kids are alright. Give them time to become people. However, I do think that those few of us who were a part of in the counterculture who were in our 20s in the mid - 1960s are the greatest generation for many reasons, too many to get into here. I had a good friend named Kunkel back then.

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

@@robkunkel8833 I kind of like the guaranteed accommodations given current prices of flights lol. Would prefer to fly in an open cockpit though if they reduced the price enough and let me take over the controls from time to time

It had a rotary engine. At higher RPM, the Rudder worked as the elevator, and the elevator worked as the Rudder.

Oh hey, I was there. That’s kinda cool. It’s insane how fast biplanes take biplanes take off due to the two wings

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I knew they were quick, but I was pretty awe struck when seeing it in person

@basementdustproductions1069

Жыл бұрын

@@danam0228 I wasn’t in the video but I was actually really close to where you took the video. I was off on your left somewhere

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

@@basementdustproductions1069 it was a great day. Wish I had taken better video of SPAD VII to share with people and took video of Bob and Mikael's talk after the flight of the Nieuport 28. Their talk was great

What a blast to fly this ole girl!

Really, the only problem these planes had was the wings ripping off in fast dives and violent maneuvers...like dog fighting. Other than that, and the tendency for the engines to catch fire if shot, and no parachutes, they were great. I would have gladly taken my chances in one. You wonder where they all went, one by one, until they are reduced to only a handful in existence now. Glorious machines!

So COOL, SGT. ANDERSON, USAF 1987-1992. They are the coolest planes ever-took a ton courage to fly them (almost sounds like a hit & miss engine of the time).

@danam0228

Ай бұрын

Thank you for your service. My son joined the ANG last fall and goes to BMT this summer. These planes are very cool. Is unbelievable the changes that occurred in late 1800s and early 1900s. Even moreso how we went from flying such basic machinery to being on the moon within decades.

What a jewel this video is--Thanks

And the first tank American fought in was also a french machine also during WW1. The Renault ft 17.

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

You can see an example of a M1917 in the background at the beginning of this video to right of the SPAD VII. It was actually built here in the US under permission from Renault, and was featured in a separate show later in the day.

I love the final approach 👏 🙌 👌 ❤️

He wasn't wearing a scarf!! He broke tradition, LOL.

From this perspective the length of the prop looks like 1/2 the wingspan.

Amazingly high-tech for the time they were built, literally 5 years after the first successful flight. Astounding machines!

amazing,,, imagine trying to fly that with the engine spinning,,, must be a nightmare

@danam0228

28 күн бұрын

Lol

If you have not been to the old Rhinebeck you need to go it is a really cool place a bunch of nice old aircraft.

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

I hope to go sometime, thanks

My first real " big book" i read when i was like i dont 5 , 6? No Parachute by a WWI pilot named Arthur Gould Lee. He flew Pups for RAF, then moved into a camel. Book is out of print but you can still find it. Fantastic read.

Why does this bring me to tears ?

great footage and awesome sound

A beautiful piece of flying, and a lovely aircraft.

Beautiful. Love that US "Hat in the Ring" insignia too.

I remember a picture in Eddie Rickenbaker's autobiography of him standing next to a chunk of wing from his Nieuport fighter that had shed its skin. He did not look pleased. He was happier in a Spad.

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

Lol, I'm sure he was, the SPAD VIII is considered the best

@Grossman2868

Жыл бұрын

Interesting point was that the 94th was the only squadron in the group that was pleased to switch over to SPADS. Just finished reading Harold Hartneys book, "Up and At 'Em" He was the 1st pursuit group's commanding officer at he was saying that the other squadrons preferred the Nieuport over the SPAD as the thing flew "like a truck" and the motor was far less reliable whereas they had modified the rotary engine in the Nieuport and it was far more reliable. According to him, if you knew not to dive past a certain rate , you didn't shed the fabric as Eddie found out to his chagrin.

@ripvanwinkle2002

Жыл бұрын

my great uncle knew him and thought he was a pretentious prat who only got where he was because he was a generals driver who fast tracked him through flight training and gave his squadron the best gear. my uncles squadron didnt even get guns for their spad 28s when they were first delivered.. they flew patrols UN ARMED..

@paulbaker847

Жыл бұрын

@@ripvanwinkle2002 You should read his autobiography.

I dont understand how these planes could carry the weight of the giant balls of steel these men had

@danam0228

Ай бұрын

Lol

these rotary motors are amazing, thanks for sharing :)

@danam0228

11 ай бұрын

You're welcome

Beautiful aircraft, and AWESOME work by Mr. Carlson in the restoration. Speaking as a Civil War reenactor, there is a 1000% chance I would show up to fly with leather trench coat and leather flight cap. I simply wouldn't be able to help myself 🤣

Pilots called it the "Old Pot" or "Pi**pot" because it was obsolete even before being put into service. We had no planes when Woodrow "He Kept Us From War" Wilson pushed us into the war. Pilots figured that the "28" meant their odds were one in twenty-eight of living long enough to get a more advanced plane, because the Germans were flying more advanced aircraft by the time American pilots "threw their hat in the ring" (an old term for accepting a challenge to fight, which inspired the squadron insignia on the side of this plane). There's a button on the control stick that cuts the ignition when pressed. If you look at old film of Nieuport formations, you see them moving up and down in relation to each other like merry-go-round horses as the pilots work the cut-off switch. Once in a while, releasing the button didn't bring the engine back to life.

@2drsdan

22 күн бұрын

Blip switch.

Magnificent!

Il fut développé par Gustave Delage (société Nieuport) et son premier vol eut lieu en juin 1917. Il était le successeur du Nieuport 27 et était équipé d'un moteur plus puissant Gnome 9N de 160 ch. Les mâts de liaison entre les ailes étaient à présent parallèles et non plus en forme de « V ». Initialement, cet appareil était destiné à équiper en grande quantité les escadrilles de chasse françaises et américaines, mais l'aéronautique militaire française a annulé toutes les commandes en privilégiant le SPAD S.XIII. Les avions furent donc livrés au American Expeditionary Force (AEF) qui en reçut 287 exemplaires.

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

Merci

Thank you for sharing this!! This is awesome!

This is impressive. Nicely done, gents.

I once had a look inside of ww1 fighter. Just wooden seat is the only protection. Surrounded with just fabric. It took balls to fight in one of those.

A thing of beauty.