To stop a crack from expanding, drill a hole at the end of the crack. This is a plugging/patching technique from the military. Thank you for the review. Looking for something to fix a small nick on a PVC elbow that is a drain pipe (at the top of a run)... so zero pressure. It might do the trick.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

daniel, thanks for the reminder, have used the drill hole technique on quite a few piece with the military back in the day. I just finished filming a follow on video where I used plastic welding which seems to have worked better than anything else. Stay tuned for that video coming out soon.

I wish you had drilled the ends of the cracks before commencing your fix attempt. This MUST be done, otherwise, it doesn't matter how you attempt to fix existing crack. If not drilled, crack will progress, once water pressure builds inside. Learned the hard way.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

Justin, great idea, I ended up plastic welding mine, hold up great several months later, plan to shoot the follow up video soon, stay tuned.

The plastic that the tank is made out of is HDPE which is extremely difficult to bond to. I’d recommend learning how to plastic weld because it’s really the only “true” way, unfortunately, to repair HDPE. Even specialty glue companies struggle to develop HDPE glues.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

Funny you mention it, I did learn to plastic weld, here's the video where I fixed them: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3l3ppKdhsaWkaQ.html

Thanks for the great video. I'll be sure to check out others you've made. 🙌 As a full time cruser I always use Sikaflex 291 but lately it's been hard to find. I'm seeing flex past everywhere so I'm thinking of giving it a try. Unfortunately I haven't seen any comparison videos on the two. Oh and just a suggestion. Drill a small hole at the end of you cracks to keep them from growing.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

2 жыл бұрын

OGGventures chris, thanks for the hole suggestion. I'm not giving up here, I have an idea about laying in some structure, we'll see how that goes.

Read the directions. Says to let fry 24 to 48 hours. I've used it to fuse two rubber liners together. Let dry 48 hours and no problems.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

2 жыл бұрын

Robert, as it turned out it was more like 72 hours when I tested with water from the hose, then removed the water, dried them out for another 48 hours before it rained. Thanks for your comment. I was assuming the "fry" was a typo.

@lizacannon4538

2 жыл бұрын

u may have made out better with applying a thin layer to make sure the seal was sealed n then another layer. but all in all I think u would of made out better with the liquid flexseal.

Saved me from wasting my money. Thank you

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

H. you're welcome, I think I solved this problem, finally, using plastic welding. Stay tuned for the video, I'm testing out a couple approaches to see which one works best.

I want to use this on the top of my badly aged wood pergola slats. 2x4's. Thought it might protect them from any further rot. I dont want to use the liquid for fear of all the dripping down the sides of slats. What do you think??

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

All my experiences with Flex products has been disappointing. But I am a fan of Gorilla Tape, which has worked well for me in several applications. amzn.to/44Yf3jk It comes in white, black and clear.

Put the paste on when barrol is FULL to avoid crack growth. You put paste on when empty, w/o considering 8 pounds for every gallon you add to it.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

8 ай бұрын

Interesting, in this case it would be difficult to apply in a 4 ft deep water barrel full, do you have experience with this approach? In the end I plastic welded both barrels and they're working like champs now: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3l3ppKdhsaWkaQ.html

great job. thank you.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

My first attempt would be Vulkum. Especially the smooth (untextured) version. Priming the surface with alcohol or something would be important.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

2 жыл бұрын

Johan, thanks for the suggestions, will look into these.

@fieldlab4

2 жыл бұрын

@@MakeItorBreakItNow also, why not high grade silicone? Silicone has low toxicity and excels in adhering to plastics. kzread.info/dash/bejne/eWGVs9yoeNSzaJM.html silicones- different cure agents are key- acidic cure (vinegar smell) is cheap garbage, alcohol or water cure are far better, silicone is particularly good at sealing and adhering to plastics, including new plastics which are leaching oils. lexan or plexiglass should only be sealed with silicone. You can never paint over silicone or silicon hybrids. polyurethane are supposedly more vulnerable to chemical attack, but then silicone the supremely resistant to everything if that's what you're comparing it to. boatlife life seal is a hybrid sealant which combines silicone and polyurethane. new class: 3M 4000 uv new poly ether sealant butyl tape

@MakeItorBreakItNow

2 жыл бұрын

@@fieldlab4 thanks again for the suggestions, I'll have to try them out.

@fieldlab4

2 жыл бұрын

@@MakeItorBreakItNow My basic approach to doing repairs on plastic like that would be to find a decent adhesive and sealant to use with a sturdy patch piece but not rely on the sealant for adhesion, but knock some holes in it for some kind of screw, pop rivet or fastener which would also be put in with the same adhesive as a sealant.

oh also did u clean it and also it was to thick. it tells u to not so thick and to let sit for 24 hrs in between coats. how long did the barrel actually sat for to dry with it that thick

@MakeItorBreakItNow

2 жыл бұрын

About a week, it was completely dry. BTW teh commerical pus it on fairly thick...

Great advice I'm working on buy some flex paste, instead of using for barrels, I want it to stop the rain drops from the roof😅. The roof has a waterproof thermal seal, however, in Mexico the sun burns as hell all day long, then the night is too cold, this conditions have made a thin but large crack, this year I started to suffer leaks cause of that. As you say plastic barrels are deformed cause water pressure. In this case, I will not contain water, I just want, rain flow and pass freely and do not pass trough the crack. I will make the prove, I expect works for me.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

Cid, You might want to use a roofing caulk instead. I've have the flex paste peal on me on several applications. The dark tape might be better if you want to use a flex product. Or the Gorilla Tape version... Get the dark tape. The clear tape also broke down on me over a year or so...

I understand a rain barrel not working, because it's standing water.... what about the frame of a sloped skylight window, where the water will be running off, and then the roof will be drying out?

@MakeItorBreakItNow

2 жыл бұрын

Lewis, Flex Paste should work well for your skylight window application. But then again so should a high quality caulk.

I have a question. I bought my mom an automatic soap dispenser for her shower. The shower walls are covered in tile so you can't screw the dispenser to the wall.Can i use flex paste to attach the dispenser to the wall

@MakeItorBreakItNow

2 жыл бұрын

Donna, maybe. You would have to use the right amount, doesn't the dispenser come with mounting instructions.

@donnaboyd9401

2 жыл бұрын

@@MakeItorBreakItNow yes but i don't want to drill it into tile. The shower is all tile no easy dry wall

I was about to buy the item. What is the best glue to seal stepping stone and gap filler?

@MakeItorBreakItNow

4 ай бұрын

Maybe good, ole silicon caulk: amzn.to/3RJi2Xm

Do you think maybe you needed to let it dry longer? Like let it set for a few days....? Maybe you can combine it with other products? Also, it may not work for your project but that doesn't mean it won't work on other projects....

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

I ended up letting it dry for several days, here's an updated video you might be interested in: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3l3ppKdhsaWkaQ.html

Good test overall. I like the tips in the comment to drill a hole to stop a running split. I came here as was looking for reviews on the Gorilla (or any "paste") product. I don't trust it for strength, it just seems like it's a glorified smear-able rubber. I'm trying to repair a gaping hole on the wall of an OLD pool skimmer. Used clear primer and cement to layer 3 sheets of fiberglass fabric. At the point of deciding whether to bondo over then paste, or just paste or just bondo :) In your case, not sure bondo is a potable option.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Ай бұрын

May not be, but plastic welding finally solved my problem, here's the video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3l3ppKdhsaWkaQ.html

Had nothing but great results with the flex paste. I'm not sure your prep work was really all there. Have you considered plastic welding?

@MakeItorBreakItNow

4 ай бұрын

Yes, here's the video the video that solved what flex Paste couldn't: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3l3ppKdhsaWkaQ.html

Try there Pool Kit. I also saw an "hack,, where they used to put the glu on the tape or the paste on the tape and pressd them really hard on it. Worked for them on the cheap pkastic Pool

@MakeItorBreakItNow

2 жыл бұрын

Lucer, thanks for the suggestion, certainly worth trying. How big was the pool?

@killy99ln

2 жыл бұрын

@@MakeItorBreakItNow it was an ok size not like a mini child Pool. It's from Jeffreviews4u on KZread

@MakeItorBreakItNow

2 жыл бұрын

@@killy99ln thanks, I'll have to check it out.

Thank you

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

you're quite welcome!

My question is can you paint over this flex paste Also can you texture over the flex paste and then paint

@MakeItorBreakItNow

2 жыл бұрын

Miguel, You could but the paint has to be flexible since the finished surface has a "rubbery" textue, kind of like caulk.

If used with common sense about limitations flex paste it works great, performed without issue on my 200 gallon pond liner with small holes and cracks.. Sadly availibility of higher end stuff is a problem lately too.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

kristopher, makes sense it would work on the pond liner, because you're pushing up against terra firma, the flexing plastic is what did this one in. I did you plastic welding and that worked.

I'd bet superglue would work well as that welds the plastic rather than a 2nd material trying to fill the gap

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

Actually, I used a better method: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3l3ppKdhsaWkaQ.html

Did you try plastic welding?

@MakeItorBreakItNow

6 ай бұрын

I did here's the video where I solved this challenge with plastic welding: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3l3ppKdhsaWkaQ.html

Did you FULLY clean the surfaces prior to application?

@MakeItorBreakItNow

2 жыл бұрын

Jeff, yes I did. Thinking about the test a bit more, I guess I could have put it on a couple inches thick and it might have work, but then to me that's not a patch, its a slab. The used a portion of a smaller wooden barrel that really doesn't have much water in it.

@silverestore

2 жыл бұрын

@@MakeItorBreakItNow I'm going to try the spray version on my skylight tomorrow, nice and thick.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

2 жыл бұрын

@@silverestore best of luck, let me know how it works for you. I've tried all their products some applications work some don't...

@silverestore

2 жыл бұрын

@@MakeItorBreakItNow I purchased the clear spray instead as I think it's a better application between my roof and skylight because it will seep into every crack. I DON'T like how bloody toxic it is compared to their other products, but I'll be well-protected.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

2 жыл бұрын

@@silverestore Thanks for the additional info. Agree on the toxic thing. I'll have to try the clear coating.

I feel like this is just a caulking/sealant, and a polyurethane construction adhesive would serve you better, at least on the outside for rigidity!

@MakeItorBreakItNow

10 ай бұрын

agreed, there's nothing special about the Flex products, they're kind of a rip off, at least that's what I've found...

Drill holes at the end of the cracks that will stop that cracks getting bigger

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

Luke, interesting suggestion. I've used holes like that on other projects, but never thought about doing that on this challenge. Stay tuned for an update here, I think I've finally solved this one.

I would have sanded some of the plastic down, just scuffed it some, to get a good contact with the flex seal

@MakeItorBreakItNow

4 ай бұрын

I did all that, plastic welding was ultimately solved the challenge, here's the video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3l3ppKdhsaWkaQ.html

was there an ultimate solution to fix the barrels?

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

I think plastic welding is the solution, did some trial runs on both barrels which were very successful. Stay tuned.

Did you wait for the paste to cure I think it is 24 to 48 hours before. Did you read the directions

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

bingers, thanks for your question. Yes I read the directions. I actually waited 3 days, 72 hours, on this test to ensure it was dry.

I may never know what I'm gonna see, Mike, but one thing's for certain, I know I'll always get an honest opinion on the items you review on this channel. So with that said, I certainly didn't think you were harsh in not recommending a product that ultimately failed to do what it was supposed to do. BTW, I have a question that's not relating to this product, but one that's somewhat similar. One of my nephew's dinosaur toy got dirty, so I decided to wash it. I removed it's rubber neck from its plastic body and filled the neck with water to flush out the gunk inside. What happened was I squeezed the neck too much and the thinnest part of the dinosaur neck formed a bubble that expanded and eventually burst. So now the dinosaur neck has a hole on it and my nephew is none too pleased, heh. What kind of a glue can I use to fix and to patch up the hole on this thing? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated and all.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

3 жыл бұрын

Ghost, that's a tough question to answer, given I can't see the toy. If its a fairly straight cut or small hole a standard super glue might work. A waterproof tape similar to what you'd repair a tent with might also work. You have less options if the "void" can be seen vice hidden somewhere. And a rough surface can be just as much a challenge as a smooth one. Some folks swear by making a past of superglue and making soda, but I haven't had a chance to test that out yet. Thanks for your comments, always interesting.

@GhostOdyssey

3 жыл бұрын

@@MakeItorBreakItNow My little nephew won't let anyone near the "injured" dinosaur, hahaha, so his parents can't take pics when I asked. They got it overseas, but the rubber is akin to those squeeze (almost stress toys) apparatuses, except not as resilient, as this one burst at its weakest point. So yeah, nephew is not too happy, and I can't find a replacement, so am looking to fix it for him. Still, thanks for your time and advise, Mike. Appreciated, as always!

@MakeItorBreakItNow

3 жыл бұрын

@@GhostOdyssey sounds almost like a Stretch Armstrong? Did you try Alibaba? They seem to have everything...

@GhostOdyssey

3 жыл бұрын

@@MakeItorBreakItNow Yes, stretchy, like Stretch Armstrong. Trying Alibaba is a great idea. Thanks! : )

I wonder if this would work to just seal without the job being under pressure. That is what I want it for. Has anybody tried this. I would be using it to seal a leak from water on a vertical wall.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

Julie, working on an update to this video using plastic welding. I think the tape works better than the paste or glue. A year later all my paste applications have pealed off on several surfaces but in most cases the tape i still in place...

@ooGYPSYoo

Жыл бұрын

@Make It or Break It thanks for the reply, maybe I will go that way. Once again thanks 😉

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

@@ooGYPSYoo you're quite welcome, again.

You gotta stop the crack before you put anything on there. Just like a crack in something steel you gotta drill the ends of the cracks and then weld the seam. They make plastic weld also. They do it to automotive plastic bumpers everyday

@MakeItorBreakItNow

8 ай бұрын

Agreed, I ultimately did plastic weld them. Here's the video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3l3ppKdhsaWkaQ.html

I used flex paste works awesome

@MakeItorBreakItNow

2 жыл бұрын

Derrick, no doubt it works under many circumstances just not this one, although I have an idea about adding some structure I might try soon. Stay tuned.

What about higher heat resistance ?

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

Not sure I understand your question. Plastic Welding is what solved my problem on these: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3l3ppKdhsaWkaQ.html

because u should of used liquid or the spray for that rather than paste and or tape and went up a quarter or halfway of the barrel I would think

@MakeItorBreakItNow

2 жыл бұрын

This my third attempt, I've tried the tapes and sprays. See this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qHWuy8mcldLMppc.html

Drill a small hole each end of the crack to stop the crack spreading.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

Great idea, I ended up doing this and the fix is still going strong: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3l3ppKdhsaWkaQ.html

Nothing too harsh, it is what it is...

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

True, but I think the commercials oversell the pastes' capabilities. Stay tuned for the final, better solution I plan to post soon.

may have to do plastic welding

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

werewasyo, agree, that's what I did, just been testing the results for a while, stay tuned for the plastic weld video coming soon.

But directions said wait 24 to 48 hours to let it seal and swell up

@MakeItorBreakItNow

4 ай бұрын

I actually waited for at times over a week and still had the same issues. I solved this one by plastic welding: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3l3ppKdhsaWkaQ.html

It is probably not flexible enough if the crack is expanding under pressure. Fish tank silicon would be better.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

Eric, never thought about using fish tank silicon, I'll have to give it a try. Also thinking about plastic welding the bottom.

@Aussienessful

Жыл бұрын

@@MakeItorBreakItNow It will depend how well silicon will stick to the plastic, seems some plastics need priming to get glues to stick. Silicon sticks very well to glass and withstands a lot of pressure.

@Aussienessful

Жыл бұрын

@@MakeItorBreakItNow Also the crack could extend past the glued area.

City water's no good, but it's okay to have your rainwater sitting in a barrel with toxic adhesive pasted on the inside wall lol.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

4 ай бұрын

That's why I ultimately solved this one with plastic welding. Here's the video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3l3ppKdhsaWkaQ.html

JB Weld Marine Weld Stick

@MakeItorBreakItNow

9 ай бұрын

Thanks, also plastic welding ultimately worked, here's the video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3l3ppKdhsaWkaQ.html

You are suppose to let it dry 24 hours before filling!

@MakeItorBreakItNow

6 ай бұрын

yes, let it dry for three times that and it still didn't work.

Everything flex tape never worked on anything I have used it on

@MakeItorBreakItNow

4 ай бұрын

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

Your work is Slappy .😂😂😂 10 minutes all talk .

@MakeItorBreakItNow

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. Ultimately plastic welding solved this challenge...

I did see you clean the area and now what ?

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

Last weekend, I tried plastic welding. Testing the barrels now, I think that's going to the solution that finally works for me. Stay tuned for the follow on video coming out soon...

The problem you're having is, none of those products were designed to work on plastic. I would have to say, your review is only honest in that it failed to patch a material it wasn't designed to patch in the first place.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

2 жыл бұрын

Donald, the label says it works on plastic, and if you look at some of the videos, they use it on clear plastic.

@donaldthomas3173

2 жыл бұрын

@@MakeItorBreakItNow they use it on plexiglass, stone, cement and it's only good on certain plastics per their own website.

@leahrichards2013

2 жыл бұрын

@@donaldthomas3173 Either way they ,the company, is being deceptive. I was under the very same impression !

@donaldthomas3173

2 жыл бұрын

@@leahrichards2013 The company was NOT deceptive. They never claimed their products would work for this application. This is why we read labels and research products BEFORE purchasing.

@leahrichards2013

2 жыл бұрын

@@donaldthomas3173 After taking I sure didn't mean to cause such upset but in all you'd have to at least admit it's implied. There are far more things I'd rather be doing than reading every $20 label. All my comment was referring to was the Morel end of business and how that is lacking in this day. Truly I haven't the time to pick people apart. Do go for it though! God Bless

Jb weld would do the trick just get the original

@MakeItorBreakItNow

2 жыл бұрын

DamStr8, thanks for the suggestion. I have some, and will have to give JB Weld a try.

silicone is the best

@MakeItorBreakItNow

2 жыл бұрын

Angy Antar, thanks for the suggestion, I might try that next along with some plastic welding.

But u didn't give it enough time to cure

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

I gave it 2 to 3 times as long as what the lable recommended. The Flex products do not last. Now Gorilla Tape, that's another matter... Here's what worked best for me: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3l3ppKdhsaWkaQ.html

How can you have 400 pounds of pressure? Pound is not a unit of pressure.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

2 жыл бұрын

Greg, 400 pounds force of the weight of the water, not really pressure.

@Aussienessful

2 жыл бұрын

PSI (pounds per square inch) is pressure.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

@@Aussienessful yup, pressure is a force...

@Aussienessful

Жыл бұрын

@@MakeItorBreakItNow Yes every square inch of the surface will have 400 pounds pushing against it.

Use an epoxy first. Then patch.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

6 ай бұрын

I ended up plastic welding the cracks, now I have a permenant solution: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3l3ppKdhsaWkaQ.html

A better preparation next time bro

@MakeItorBreakItNow

7 ай бұрын

to your point prep can always be better. Plastic welding is what did the trick here ultimately... Here's the video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3l3ppKdhsaWkaQ.html

STOP! throw the barrel out man! if you must do this with a plastic garbage can... place several metal bands from new please google water towers and design before you resume. And come see why you are failing so much.

@MakeItorBreakItNow

3 ай бұрын

I ended up using plastic welding, and embedded a wire mesh and now the barrels are working good as new, here's the video:kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3l3ppKdhsaWkaQ.html

What a scam!!!

@MakeItorBreakItNow

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I tend to agree with you on this one. here's how I ultimately solved the problem: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3l3ppKdhsaWkaQ.html