Flash Photography For Portraits: ND Filter vs High Speed Sync Technique
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Learn the differences between using a flash with an ND filter versus using high-speed sync! Check it out and tag me on IG with your results!
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The question is, which do you prefer for shooting portraits wide open with flash? ND or High Speed Sync? Sound off in the comments below!
@steverogers1039
Жыл бұрын
I have been using clip in ND filters (rather than HSS) for the past 18 months. The main reason is it liberates more power for my strobes, and has meant that I can now do all I need with a dinky little Godox AD100 in a modifier most of the time, and if really bright, an AD300. Previously I was needing an AD400 and AD200's for the same results. This has really allowed me to save weight and space in my camera bag.
@stkuj
Жыл бұрын
I actually shoot both sometimes LOL
@zenphotocraftmedia8326
Жыл бұрын
Though I am guessing some camera can go upto 1/8000 sec and some camera can do high speed sync 1/4000 and it also what f stop will used and if dose it requires the nd filter
@MMPAspergerian
Жыл бұрын
HSS for sure. Great videos as always Miguel, thank you!
@PeteySmoothJazz5059
Жыл бұрын
I use both, however, in the spirit of the question, I favor ND filters.
ND allows better battery usage. HSS uses up more battery. So if it is going to be a longer shoot, might want to use the ND to have a spare battery. Both are great tools to get the job done. 🙂👍🏻
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Exactly right!
@MartinKamin
Жыл бұрын
I wrote my one note - the same...
@ZachGrayPhotography
Жыл бұрын
HSS doesn’t have power either as it’s bursting the flash.
@BrianCarey
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I was wondering about this!
@fostervf16
Жыл бұрын
Wrong. Using an nd filter means you need to increase the power of the flash. Hss makes the flash use less power but it technically is firing more times. But it balances out.
A word of advise, whenever you change the power of the flash you must purge the flash first before you take the photo. If you took a photo with a 4.0 setting and then went down to 2.0, you must purge the flash first because the flash charge is still at 4.0. Once the purge has been made the battery will charge the capacitor to 2.0 which is now ready to take a photo.
@DiagnosticDennis
Жыл бұрын
Good advice thank you 🙏
@Drasengan75
Жыл бұрын
how do you purge the flash? a power cycle?
@ooltimu
Жыл бұрын
@@Drasengan75 just fire it
@Drasengan75
Жыл бұрын
@ooltimu ohh haha thanks. Cuz i was literally confused. Thanks again.
@JakobeOcho
Жыл бұрын
What’s purge it mean
Love them both. Thank you for educating a beginner photographer here.
I am just starting out in photography. I was thinking of buying a strobe but it is quite expensive and I was thinking of a model without HSS.(It is way more cheaper than that with HSS.) I thought I might have problems shooting with a wide aperture in daylight, but then I found out there is a way to use an ND filter! I learned a great deal. Thank you!
I just came across this topic yesterday. I watched another video by a photographer about it, and now I saw yours on KZread about the same topic. However, yours was explained better because you went into more depth with the individual stops. Thank you, Miguel. Beautiful images !!
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
So happy to hear it! That's why I went into KZread creating tutorials. I see that kind of thing far too often. Hope it helps!
Great topic, I believe it's a matter of choice whether you're in for maximizing power like with a smaller light, going for ND it is... and if power isn't an issue, then High Speed sync is more flexible! Both are great tools, and your shots are awesome!
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and I totally agree!
This is very helpful. I struggle with off camera flash. This video put a lot of things in perspective for me. Thanks a lot!
Hi Miguel: Another great tutorial!! Love your explanation of the two techniques really makes it easy to understand. Think my next purchuse will be an ND filter.
This is an awesome video, I love how you did this kind of iterative approach that shows how each step of the way influences the final result. Definitely subscribed now!
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
So happy to hear you enjoyed it, and thanks for subscribing! More to come next week 😁📸
Great vid - thanks for that. It had been confusing me but now it's all clear. Keep up the good work !
Thanks!!!!! Really informative for me, as an advanced amateur. Personally, I think that the combo worked the best. HSS seemed entirely too bright overall. ND alone, in your time of day was unable to bring out the model's features and seemed to fall flat. Will definitely try w/my D500 & off camera flash.
One of the best tutorials on just using OCF and even easy follow on the HSS. Thank you for doing this tutorial Miguel
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
I bought an ND filter and love how the images came out... plus I don't lose power on my flash, so I'm happy with the ND filter
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Very true!
For portraits, I'd always go with nd filters. It's just more manageable for a photo shoot. The only times i use hss is for things in motion.
Great video & tutorial, I think i will try both techniques!
Great video! For professional shootings, well, whatever works best in the situation, but for people who do it as a hobby, clearly an V-ND filter is best - cheaper than lights/triggers with HSS, less battery consumption, and the filter is useful also for other kinds of photos or for video.
Very informative, I understood...............great video. I watched it after watching your most recent ND filter video. The pieces of the puzzle are beginning to fall into place for me.
Youre a great photographer and educator. Loved the video
Awesome video Miguel, now I will try the ND filter, thank you
I’ve done both methods and honestly it doesn’t matter much to me personally…it’s just another great tool option to have in your bag. I remember watching Joel Grimmes..years ago use nds for his portrait work and do amazing work . I just like options and a variable nd takes up little space in your bag so why not.
Beautifully explained. Thanks
Miguel has the best off camera flash instructional tutorials on KZread. PERIOD. Thank you for uploading these quality videos. It is directly influencing my photography purchases.
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you for the kind words! Glad my content is helping you out :)
@PeteySmoothJazz5059
Жыл бұрын
I concur!! I love his instructional tutorials!
Amazing video and what wonderful photos, very explanatory.
I'm new to photography..Thanks for the technique..This is great
Cool! I've never used an ND filter with flash....time to experiment ! Thank you....
Learned something new today, thanks Miguel
Great video!!!!! Learned a lot !!
Great video, it helped me out a lot I’m just starting to get into photography, I’m doing my home work first to see what I need
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Hope it helps! If you have any topics that you'd like me to cover along the way let me know. 👍
Thank you again, actually had to refer back to this video before buying NEW nd filters
If given the choice, I'd go w/HSS. I think it makes for a 'cleaner' shot (if that's even possible). Having a trigger/strobe that works natively w/your camera makes it easy. Once you've adjusted for abient (to get the real colors of your sky, there), it's then just a matter of finding the right power output from the strobe, based on the distance between the strobe and the model. As always, very well done, mate -- thanks!
As a complete newbie to flash photography (still deciding on my first Speedlite), HSS intrigues me a lot because it's easy and simple. I guess once I get it, I'll use HSS for now, especially since every flash with HSS could also do standard sync.
@hazard3020
Жыл бұрын
dont forget the cost of these things !!!
@paceyombex
Жыл бұрын
@@hazard3020 I decided to get a TT 685 II for my first flash, and for my need it's plenty for now. Now if I'll get another unit it'll be something from godox's wistro line since I really appreciate the HSS on my TT 685
Thanks for the video! Using both methods, as/when needed, will help anybody be a better photographer... I hope!
Hi Miguel. That's some powerful content here! Looking at your side-by-side comparisons, the ND filter frames look more contrasted as if the filter reduces overall luminosity to increase contrast. But it's so subtle that you wouldn't know. Great tutorial!
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Thanks brother! The ND shots definitely had a bit more contrast to them. I imagine I could have made them look fairly similar if I edited them but it's cool to see the results. 🙏
@TonySkraba
Жыл бұрын
@@MiguelQuilesJr i wonder if, because your ND is variable, it is due to it being a polarizer
great vdo ... thank you ... and you go at a good speed .. we can actually keep up!
Nicely explained and demonstrated Miguel!
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
I would go with an ND with wide aperture during the day time. Informative video. Thanks! 👍👍
Nice video, as I do have high speed sync and plan on getting the Nikon 85mm 1.2 with Z8 contemplating the ND for that lens specifically for this. I preferred the ND based on the colors as the pink top was perfect to express this. Also the softer light on the face as well. Both shots a greats and in a pinch one way other the other will make it happen.
Very nice video. It's good to point that with HSS we are loosing about one stop of light from the flash so if you want to overpower the ambient light in a more sunny day ND filter is the way to go.
@jasonbodden8816
4 ай бұрын
You lose more than that the further past your flash sync speed you go. ND filters for me.
The ND looks good and when I was in studio did go over 200. Awesome class.
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words and support! 🙏
I like the ND filter look for some reason. Great Video
Excellent work sir
Your videos are very helpful, you're an excellent teacher 👏
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the feedback!! 🙏
Great video, full of information
I guess it will depend on the type of light you use, if you have a speedlight the best option will be to use the ND. If you don't have power problems with the flash you use the HSS. Excellent demonstration.
You know you're a natural beauty when you're dressed down and still looking beautiful. Thanks Miguel as always for the lesson and nice work.
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the uplifting words and support! I'll be sure to share with Katelyn. Thanks for watching :)
@QUINPANO
Жыл бұрын
He was talking about you
Great topic, thank you so much
I don't know how or why I never subscribed. Miguel you are a legend. As always a big fan here!
@MiguelQuilesJr
8 ай бұрын
I appreciate your support!! 🙌
Brilliant video thanks.
Excellent tutorial simple and effective
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! That's always my goal 🙏
Your videos are really dope. Thanks for the info!💯‼️
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that, thank you!! 🙌
Budget is my limitation. Great vid man 🤙
You're photographing thru another lens so remember to take care of the ND filter, don't abuse it. Some cameras may struggle with focus with a really dark ND, and if the lens becomes warped from heat or misuse, you'll struggle with focus.
The subject is good at what she does. Great vid, it was helpful.thanks.
Woww nice Bro, so beautiful shot.. good job 🤙🤙🤙
Great tutorial
nice model. Nice tutorial, Thank you!
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
Thanks, great topic. Probably leaning towards ND so that my speedlight doesn't overheat in HSS.
They look almost the same to me. I like how both look but I do favor ND filters. Great vid! :)
Good work brother!
Tons of value from your 2 videos about this topic. In my budget case, I already have my ad200 with trigger, since the battery and the ND filter cost the same, either same battery with ND filter or add another battery because HSS uses more battery. I would go with battery. If you're a hybrid shooter go with ND filter for video purposes also. Thank you M.
Been using this technique ever since learning shoot on site
Nice work Miguel; alot of shooters mangle this topic- you didn't. Love the results. Old dude here/67; been using an old school (portable) Norman 400B flash unit for years + ND filters. I have a Big Stopper, 1-10 as needed. AF on my Nikons/DSLRs can sometimes wander, specific focus points....but WHEN it works, it works fine, and unlike HSS units....my flash doesn't have the continuous pulse- which eats up about half it's power. Plus a diffusion panel, etc. IF I went HSS, it would have to be high-power: 800+ watts min. Distance, Diffusion, Design eat up the Output.
I love the ND filter great photos
Great video
I’m new on this so new subscriber here 👋 thanks for sharing your tips 👍🏻
Thank you awesome video.
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
While I think it depends on your shooting style, for me, I have always used ND filters as it offers me more fast flexibility, without having to constantly try and punch up additional light from the flash. This is nothing against HSS, and in certain situations where you need to catch something that is in motion (even slightly), it will work much better than the ND filters
Dope video bro!
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Brandon! 🙏
ND filter is amazing !
Both look great
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Great Video!!
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Very good lesson. Take care...
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
Great Information Thank you Sir from INDIA
my nikon d5600 dont have hss but i do have nd filters this is a great technique - thanks for info
I am so used to hss I can’t think being without it. By big strobe has plenty of juice and my speedlights use lithium batteries so that helps. Thanks for the video.
I love soft soft so so so so much!
It‘s funny, I just watched your video from 6 months ago and at the end I saw this video linked. And it‘s made 1 day ago 😮💨 Lucky me haha
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Crazy timing! 😂
Nice photography sir
Very nice photos :) thank you
@MiguelQuilesJr
9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
To save battery and refresh battery time, I'd shoot without HSS. As far as the comparison between the two, it's really hard to tell because they look very similar. Of course, it helps when you have a pretty model 😉
Nice comparison. I've never used HSS, but I constantly use ND filters when shooting at fast apertures. I use them in the studio and in the field. Now you got me curious about HSS. Though I've never felt limited by the ND method.
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I really only found ND filters to be less effective when using a DSLR or attempting to focus with anything above ND4 or so. It throws the AF system off on many camera systems and can sometimes cause color cast/vignetting. I still like having the option though.
@91364Steve
Жыл бұрын
@@MiguelQuilesJr Yes, that much is certain. I'm shooting with a Canon 5D Mk IV, and it struggles to nail focus with 8 stops of ND (5+3) over my 85mm. Less than that (5 or 3 alone), and it seems to do just fine. A small LED as a focus assist, mounted over the trigger, or held by an assistant if I have one, helps a lot.
@91364Steve
Жыл бұрын
@@MiguelQuilesJr I do notice a slight color cast, but I kinda like it.
Thank you!
great video as usual. any focusing tips when using an ND filter? thanks.
I do have speedlites and just bought a monolight. The two speedlites can do hss. Im on a budget do the camera model i have, and the monolight that is arriving this week, are incapable of hss. So for me, the ND filter is the choice for me.The results look similar in your video, but that may not be the case when looking at a raw file. Thank you for the video.
Thank you for sharing, Miguel! I'm new to photography and using a flash has been very difficult for me. I got a question, do I have to turn off my radio every time I adjust anything on the camera so the new settings will take effect? Thanks again!
Excellent!
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed it :)
Both are great! Just that you would be spending at least $200 on a True Color ND filter. Definitely worth it if you want to always shoot at full power because using HSS cuts your flash power in half. So to get full power equivalent to 1/16 with HSS, you have to use 1/8. If you dont want to spend another $200 on an ND filter, then best to go with HSS.
Great video as always. Would love to see this same comparison in a brighter setting. Maybe a daytime beach shoot with HSS vs. ND? Then we could really see the effects of the power output limitation of HSS. and the potential real advantage of ND. Thanks!
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dennis! Now that I'm feeling better I'm definitely doing that. 📸
Awesome =, thanks!
Shout out to the lady too :), amazing no one mentions her 😅. Sharpe explanations thx
Great video Miguel. I will personally always side with HSS over ND as I personally believe adding an extra layer of glass on top of the lens (unless super high end ND glass) will degrade image quality to an extent.
@jasonbodden8816
9 ай бұрын
If it's a good quality filter it's negligible. Probably even imperceptible.
Thanks Miguel!
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Craig!
very helpful, thank you
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
My pleasure! 🙏
Although the one with the ND filter and HSS mode is exposed correctly, aesthetically the first overexposed background one looks more natural to me. Btw thanks for sharing
HSS never give a color cast, ND filter may introduce color cast depending on the quality of the filter.
@SuperMassara
Жыл бұрын
Just buy quality filters. It's EASY.
This was a great one. I like both as well . Is it possible to use both at the same time. I
I like the smoother light on her cheeks with the ND. I usually use HSS because it is always available but I would like to use ND but screw on filters in my kit are 77mm dia. but my preferred portrait lens is the 85 1.8S. Using the F mount 70-200 2.8 however will work. Most of my portrait work is done with a Z6 so I can use S lenses but I have a D850 and D800 with plenty of F lens choices. I just leased a new studio with 76sq meters/690sq ft with 6m high ceiling/20ft high ceiling so as soon at the build out is done next week I will experiment with these options. wall is 80% window so there is some work to do in making multiple drapes, blackout and translucent. My old studio had a large cyclorama but I do not want to go to the effort and expense to build one in the new place.
Both are very great , i would like you to teach us how to use the ND filter in the middle of the day . Thanks for your videos they are so amazing.👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@MiguelQuilesJr
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'll definitely be shooting a mid day version of the same video. Stay tuned! 🙌
@NiniRockX
Жыл бұрын
@@MiguelQuilesJr That would be awesome !!!
@patrickb4321
Жыл бұрын
For in the middle of the day portraits, you choose your wide open aperture, you choose iso 100 and you put your shutter speed at between 1/160 or 1/200s, depending on your camera's sync speed. You then maneuver the ND filter around to control ambient exposure to your liking. Generally, you want your variable ND filter to be between 6 or or 8 stops on very sunny days. After that you introduce your flash.
Great video. Nice gear to look after I want an fj 400 set up justo like that. In the end you did not say what is better yo you nd or hss.