Flash (T) vs Bisu (P) on Citadel, Game 1. Want to support ArtosisCasts? / artosis I'm probably LIVE right now, check me out: →Twitch: / artosis
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@tenpai573117 күн бұрын
it's amazing flash is back and playing again but i think it's just as nice that we have you still active and sharing all of this with everyone, thanks for doing these man, they're a highlight of my mornings
@outkast978
17 күн бұрын
for real. the brood war English scene is lucky to have someone as knowledgeable and passionate about the game as artosis is.
@swampybwoy17 күн бұрын
20 day flash streak
@anonymousaustralianhistory2081
17 күн бұрын
You're so right, it's far too little.
@alucard449
17 күн бұрын
Love it
@41italia
17 күн бұрын
are you a terran player?
@TC_WarDoc
17 күн бұрын
Keep it coming my man
@davidorawe3931
17 күн бұрын
Just a flash in the pan
@srcocomad17 күн бұрын
I love the fact that someone, unsuspecting, will hit artosis stream after getting hooked with all these flash games.
@eriks2962
17 күн бұрын
And then, their life will never be the same!
@ssf4evo
17 күн бұрын
rip to that person's ears
@ocircles738
16 күн бұрын
CIMA
@s13shaka
16 күн бұрын
You sound gay af
@1DeadSpirit
14 күн бұрын
🐥🐥🐥🐥🐥🐥🐥🐥
@KilljoySC217 күн бұрын
Artosis I start my morning with your Cast. These Flash games have been awesome, keep-up the good work!
@DENIS_Biomech17 күн бұрын
I don't know about you guys, but I am getting chills right now 😂😂😂
@pointlessmanatee
16 күн бұрын
NERD CHILLS TASTELESS
@simonchai304017 күн бұрын
Love it when artosis flashes us
@matticus1117 күн бұрын
Good discussion on the cutting edge of greed. Obviously Flash knows what the current meta is, he's banking on surviving the first big push.
@TheSuperappelflap
17 күн бұрын
It seems like he wants to figure out for himself to find a better way to play in the current meta instead of just copying the meta Terran builds. And that is something to be respected.
@antaresblazewar9083
17 күн бұрын
@@TheSuperappelflap it looks to me that he really likes to have the upgrade adventage. and he is trying to push the limits of that build to make it work.
@EebstertheGreat
17 күн бұрын
I didn't really understand how early academy can be greedy, though. Normally, a "greedy" play tries to get a lot of resources (extra workers or bases) or sometimes high tech early at the expense of army size or base defense. To me, a greedy play can be punished with some sort of early attack or harass, while an overly cautious play can only be punished by expanding. But early academy is sort of the opposite: getting early base defense at the expense of early resources. You can punish a _late_ academy with DTs, but you can't really punish an early academy, except by getting incrementally more resources.
@CanariasCanariass
17 күн бұрын
@@EebstertheGreat I think an academy is greedier than ebay + turrets? Did he mean that?
@corymeyer116217 күн бұрын
Arty. Thank you. You are so good at explaining the terrain side of the matchup. I watched flash games on another channel and their play by play was fine but they do not have the depth of knowledge or ability to explain it like you do. You should always cast terran games. You know so much about this matchup. Cheers
@mapro394817 күн бұрын
Thanks for your casts, my understanding of the game improved a lot over the last months. SC1 was the first game that I bought (was eight years old) and though I haven't played it myself for a long time, I now enjoy watching casts now more than ever. PS: again, the eight carrier win condition hits.
@theconqueror111117 күн бұрын
Beep beep, additional Flash videos required
@stefanc452017 күн бұрын
You had me at "Bisu" and if you cast 7 Bisu vs Flash I will literally lose my shit! ❤
@robinlinh17 күн бұрын
I miss the Flash-Bisu stream, where Flash just sit behind Bisu and making joke unintentionally
@abalayn22
17 күн бұрын
"Now I learned: Hydra - good unit".
@dobbersp17 күн бұрын
I've been devouring all of these pro ladder casts. Thanks for putting in all the work to bring us these great games! Looking forward to the next ones!
@ericomfg17 күн бұрын
Artosis, your consistency and diligence give me chills. Appreciate it!!
@mandrewski274217 күн бұрын
Yoooooo 7 more games aren’t enough! Keep um coming!😊
@wmecoy17 күн бұрын
You cast beautifully, like sun tzu
@lifenote194317 күн бұрын
Let's gooooooo, nah but seriously these games are awesome. I love how you can really see Flash's thought process throughout the games, almost every action he takes has a rationale behind it. Really informative games.
@susugam3004
17 күн бұрын
as opposed to all the other top level pros who spin a wheel of fortune to decide their every move, with zero rationale whatsoever. only flash is capable of planning things. what a god.
@michaelbird914816 күн бұрын
Great point about the unique opportunity of watching Flash re-adjust to the game. Will be excited once things balance out again and we watch other players (I loved the Flash interregnum for that reason!), but still such a treat to deep dive on one player. Hope you feel better soon!
@Kenshiken17 күн бұрын
Thanks for casting, Arty
@zhuzhong7417 күн бұрын
Welcome back to Flashosis
@meguemil854217 күн бұрын
As always, thank you, Artosis! I hope your voice gets better soon!
@fekkapa17 күн бұрын
Artosis, I sincerely hope you are going to keep these flash games continually running. I'm way too invested and way too far into the rabbit hole to stop any time soon. Kind regards from an old xds fan
@monkleyt17 күн бұрын
I like when you run game series. It's interesting to see the development between two players
@Raz0rIG17 күн бұрын
I’ve noticed a principle in broodwar that the weaker race cannot allow the stronger race snowball out of control in macro otherwise they just lose. Zerg wins in ZvP if Protoss leaves Zerg unchecked. Zerg greed goes further than Protoss greed. Same here with Protoss vs Terran. Protoss greed will always go further than Terran greed and Protoss can trade even with Terran and as long as they trade army for siege tanks or high quality units Protoss will rebuild army easier and faster. Same with Zerg if Protoss loses their high quality units and trades even with Zerg, Zerg is ahead.
@ollaitsrealgood
17 күн бұрын
You're backwards. Protoss win in all matches if literally any race lets them go unchecked. Also your statement is kind of a tautology because this is true in literally any situation. And not just on Starcraft. Imagine playing Undead and just letting your Human or Night Elf opponents play completely unmolested.
@TheSuperappelflap
17 күн бұрын
@@ollaitsrealgood Well, Undead if left unchecked and free to expand is the strongest race in wc3. Human and Night Elf need a second base to really get going. Orc can only snowball if their heroes get high level. But Undead has good units, although expensive, and amazing heroes. With a strong economy they snowball the hardest. The only thing they dont have is strong midgame units, past where crypt fiends are effective, and super late game air. Frost Wyrms just cost too much supply vs stuff like the Human hawks that can disable enemies and web from the Orc.
@arturstatkiewicz636017 күн бұрын
ArtosisCastsFlash, best channel ever!
@XtReMz9817 күн бұрын
Too many chills a day bring a raspy voice the next day!
@athanaseruisseau778417 күн бұрын
I really like Artosis showing us the only two races in Starcraft.
@Aubee8917 күн бұрын
7 games, Basil! *Squeegees glasses
@diechort17 күн бұрын
Another day, another Flash game(s). And I'm all for it!
@CouveTJ17 күн бұрын
Keep em coming boyo!
@jnerdal9 күн бұрын
I remember Flash VS Movie in the OSL Finale where Flash buildes wall after wall of supply depos.
@Mizokahun17 күн бұрын
Please keep the flash train comming! Lovely videos as always Artosis and wish you the best with your sore throat! :) Could you maybe up the video resolution though if not too much trouble? HD looks a little blurry. :S (youtube has low bitrate even with premium, 2K res maybe? 🤞)
@joshuahensley939517 күн бұрын
idk if that map explanation was for me, but thank you
@bkeerz17 күн бұрын
Artosis… Why wasn’t Flash targeting carriers directly, instead of fighting interceptors? Also… Would it have been a tough transition to add ghosts + lockdown? Lock half of fleet, get EMP off, and direct target carriers with goliaths? Forgive my ignorance, I’m just a spectator and haven’t played BW in 15 years. Please keep up the Flash casts! Thank you.
@marketingcoelho205817 күн бұрын
I'm a Protoss player and I dont know how I'll live without daily Artosis Flash. THANKS SO MUCH for this content Arty.
@OdinMayCall17 күн бұрын
Welcome back to flashcasts
@carllazarraga285817 күн бұрын
Keep em coming. I'm having more fun watching the progression of flash than watching any sc2 content.
@addlemm4417 күн бұрын
low game sound
@ZoeCalico17 күн бұрын
A new 7 game series and it's Flash v Bisu? This is good news.
@brandon178817 күн бұрын
MORE FLASH LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. DONT EVER STOP
@youuuuuuuuuuutube17 күн бұрын
Flash keeping making those adjustments. 1st game it looks like it just needed a better fortress, either with more vultures or mines or some buildings (supply depots for ex).
@GreenGloop17 күн бұрын
Babe wake up, @ArtosisCasts is posting a Flash vs Bisu series!
@dj_koen12657 күн бұрын
i really like the way flash is playing that second game, i think he is going to figure it out sooner rather than later i personally think that something terran players should start doing is to move a group of vultures ahead of the army and start picking off zealots
@lucasbritoarruda15 күн бұрын
OMG, bring me a blanket!!! I am getting CHILLS right now!!
@math92516 күн бұрын
Do Protoss build pylon walls like at 17:30 very often? Is that to help defend against Vulture harass? Do they build it in PvP or PvZ, as well?
@Penrose51717 күн бұрын
It's interesting to me seeing how much of a proponent he is for Goliaths
@l4unchp4dgaming3817 күн бұрын
"Welcome back to Flashback Casts, where we cast Flash back to back."
@kingart81317 күн бұрын
Yes!!!!! I love series!
@beaustebbings696817 күн бұрын
You’ve mentioned upgrade Terran and macro Terran a few times in your casts and I was wondering if there are other styles/builds.
@kahahabahaha17 күн бұрын
am i correct in saying that the lesson here is to be active with scouting vultures during an active, known carrier switch, to hunt for ht's?
@inguh704117 күн бұрын
wow what a high quality game 2!
@justingagnier287117 күн бұрын
My issue is dealing with carriers. Seems ever toss goes carriers. I can be smashing them and carriers always happens. How does terren players deal with this? Just mass glitches? A group of clocked wraths?
@christopherbui731517 күн бұрын
Hey artosis, I noticed that you do analysis of games at the start of the next game. Is it possible you do the analysis at the end of a game, thus the start of the next you can explain openers/reactions?
@dzmitryfedarkevich622316 күн бұрын
The big question in my mind, is why not to go simultaneously to ghosts with locks and Goliaths? You already cut his mining base, just kill what’s coming in carriers, and you still can win. But it seems he had no interest in fighting and ggs…. (Sound of scratching my head)
@Haris-mq3fx17 күн бұрын
Hi, what maps is this, i want to download it. Thanks
@duncanthaw685816 күн бұрын
Actually, this has already happened. Lu Xiaojun, one of the best weightlifters of all time basically started from scratch after not training at all for the longest time and video'd the whole thing. He got caught by a doping test before the championships tho
@stanecro174817 күн бұрын
Get well soon bro
@SaltyVest17 күн бұрын
You know, those supply depots just remind me of like, the early days with BoxeR like, blocking off ramps that wern't his or locking units into his base and stuff. That's the kinda meme shit that got me in in the first place.
@josepalacios7817 күн бұрын
Flash just practicing different strategies and prepare for ASL to own everyone.
@supradoom17 күн бұрын
Dumb question: Last time I played SC1 every Terran blocked and lifted off the barracks later. Why isnt this a thing at high level in sc1?
@maruwave538917 күн бұрын
For the 1st game did Flash mean to delay vulture mines and speed by so much? He never started speed and died before mines finished.
@Dylansinspace16 күн бұрын
ladder game looking like a grand finals wow
@shinuftw15 күн бұрын
carriers are absolutely nuts.
@fangedcow1234517 күн бұрын
Arotosis showing us that you might be God, you still can't beat gateway man, invisible man, a-move big ship. LOL
@canag0d17 күн бұрын
So I’ve been critical of Flash since he’s come back…. but I kinda think he’s playing possum. He’s playing bad on purpose, just to test shit out. However…. I used to be much better than I am now and as I get older I suck more. So is this really Flash sucking or is this Flash doing mind games? I find it hard to believe that Flash “devolved” to not being able to target with his tanks. He’s intentionally dying in my opinion…, Or he’s using strats he knows are bad but he’s just working it out.
@AuelReiuji17 күн бұрын
Yes! Let’s go!
@alexanderoaks294817 күн бұрын
Flash casts Saturday!
@almightyhydra17 күн бұрын
Are wraiths and valkyries not any good against carriers? Particularly valkyries, use the splash to kill all the interceptors.
@rambo32116 күн бұрын
damn GGz
@dewinmoonl17 күн бұрын
bisu de3finitely plays less greedy than some of the other protoss but it just felt like he had control of the whole game, even when attacking poorly trading 50 supplies for 10
@bfors849817 күн бұрын
God damn this channel has been a goldmine recently
@kilmindaro317 күн бұрын
I wonder if Arty with a meta build could win against Flash trying to find himself
@godynnel768016 күн бұрын
Let's Flashing gooooooo
@VladoMitkov17 күн бұрын
Another Flash game - who'd have thought?! 😅
@513pollo17 күн бұрын
Game 2 was awesome
@Fanelan05316 күн бұрын
Carrier for the win!
@AutumnflameGaming17 күн бұрын
I wonder how playing in the Evo mod would affect high level playb
@KorewaKosmo17 күн бұрын
Second game that's ridiculous man, how does Bisu win
@dizietz17 күн бұрын
Please more flash!
@pierQRzt18015 күн бұрын
One silly question. Do Flash and other pro/semi pro find themselves in a lobby and arrange matches, or do they simply queue? I ask because queueing at high level can still produce shitty pairings with hackers, cheesers and what not. I would hope there is a lobby (like the CPL discord) and they arrange matches there.
@SpiderWaffle17 күн бұрын
I can't help but wonder if this could be a rare case where one of the more extreme ways to combat carriers could be viable. Such as lockdown and nukes or cloaked wraiths and killing obs. It seems Flash was in a winning position when he scanned the carriers at 32:25, with the carriers being the only way for Bisu to comeback. Yet as it plays out, goliaths only seems an inevitable loss in this situation.
@TheSuperappelflap
17 күн бұрын
The problem is that carriers are a tier 3 massive investment for protoss and terran players lose to it because they dont get their own high tech out fast enough. Battlecruisers with yamato destroy carriers and they are equal tech compared to protoss carriers with the interceptor upgrade.
@pandabearguy1
17 күн бұрын
You think theres time to to get ghosts with upgrades and nukes agsinst 4 stargate carrier with 4 carriers already out and 8 out a minute later
@SpiderWaffle
17 күн бұрын
@@pandabearguy1 Well let's check. Covert ops and lock down take 25 and 63, ghost 31.5, they start with 50 energy need 100 for lockdown. Maybe around 30 minutes when Flash was winning he could have made a prophylactic covert ops for just 50/50 resources. a round of carriers takes 88 and 104 to make all 8 interceptors. Nuke silo and nuke only take 50 and 63.
@pandabearguy1
17 күн бұрын
@@SpiderWaffle Lots of if's. I'm not saying its impossible, but I'm not a pro either. I'm just a game theory expert, from MIT. Ghosts die way to easily as well. Cloaked wraiths seem to be a good choice if you see the carrier switch before any carriers are out.
@SpiderWaffle
17 күн бұрын
@@pandabearguy1 ya I don't know what' viable or best necessarily. I do think some sort of precautionary step should be made by T when they're up significantly enough late in a game and realistically only one thing could beat them. More ports is a big investment compared to covert ops + maybe a couple defensive barracks, which T already like to made more than one of for walls sometimes. But ya, the wraiths have been shown to be more practical than lockdown. Mixing in some Goliaths is also an option, or Valks. Maybe in a large numbers of interceptors and goliaths, valks do well to help kill more interceptors. A control tower, and some goliaths isn't that much cost.
@JackVermicelli16 күн бұрын
37:25 What would that matter? They're a hovering unit; mines shouldn't be triggered.
@dj_koen1265
7 күн бұрын
no they are not hovering
@JackVermicelli
7 күн бұрын
Since when?
@ambidex0med17 күн бұрын
Can you get away with cc first against these early nexus builds?
@hughtitchener647817 күн бұрын
Mid spoiler but the late game strategy employed by the winner in the second game never seems to fail from what I’ve seen, even when behind
@Tufas17 күн бұрын
Ah my daily window into the Broodwar people by the anthropologist himself. What will Flash have learned? How will Bisu react? How does it differ to what these people thought the optimal strategy was one year ago? How will it be in a year?
@krgrvnr117 күн бұрын
The Девалт games are textbook material, seriously.
@philbalistreri495817 күн бұрын
Artosis your not allowed to get sick. Sorry, so your gonna have to let that cold know, that your off limits.
@FlymanMS17 күн бұрын
4 HT for 2 vultures is a meme worthy trade. Pretty exciting second game, until the winner got the imba unit out.
@sandcat73117 күн бұрын
Flash ftw ty arty, crank out the commentary baby ❤❤
@vitaminamulti15 күн бұрын
Do you think Bisu sending those 4 Templar to die into that group of vultures was intentional to mislead Flash? Makes Flash think Bisu supply is tied up on making new Templar etc instead of recognizing the carrier push ealeier
@johnkalyvas483817 күн бұрын
Should have gone lockdown. He already had the science facility and 1 barracks, so half the infrastructure was already there. Carriers abuse hit and run tactics so lockdown is basically an insta-kill against them as long as you have enough gols to stand and fight. Imagine sending a single ghost with defense matrix and full energy against the golden armada and seeing them run away as hard as bio runs from a defiler with plague XD.
@lavq7000
17 күн бұрын
Yeah I also agree that ghosts with lockdown are a good solution vs Carriers. Especially considering that Flash had a decent ground army and Science Vessels out for the defense matrix. It is just one of those things that Terran players have not been able to make work. I feel that eventually they will make a breakthrough like what happened with Zerg Queens vs Mech
@dj_koen1265
7 күн бұрын
lockdown has only 8 range which makes it really awkward vs carriers
@nameunavailable0717 күн бұрын
Making carriers is a good skill toi have
@mitraSamarasinghe16 күн бұрын
Hey Artosis, Thank you for keeping me entertained and giving me a moment of relaxation as I'm currently trying to build a political party on "the Map" called Sweden. We are a terrain race, with the spirit of Apes and hope to build a horde and go on the offensive like the Zerg. Thanks again, I hope our Party (The Global Party) might be of some service in the future to you and your subscribes. Just know you are to great help at least for me, if not other members of the party to. Kind regards, Your friend ("Kamrat" in swedish) Karl Mitra Samarasinghe The Global Party
@amai230717 күн бұрын
I think Flash doesnt use mines at main base, because perfect protoss with a shuttle takes 0 damage from mines. To reword it mines are gamechanging against lesser players, but unreliable vs Snow or other top ones.
@basementbrotherscollectibles17 күн бұрын
You should drop 2 SC casts a day
@blazewarTV17 күн бұрын
Flash is having a lot of trouble with the modern protoss. Motive destroyed him.
@N-qo6bz17 күн бұрын
Use a cough button mate. Radio stations invented them decades ago.
@rareroe30517 күн бұрын
Uploaded at 9:06?
@BlahBlah-uh2yi17 күн бұрын
3 minutes in.... Clicks on cyber core, doesn't see it spinning, still doesn't realize bisu cancelled range for a faster nexus
@-LocoBolon17 күн бұрын
hey Arty. I think you need to make a live stream casting one of these days. 24 hours, marathon, only Flash, all day, non stop, just Flash, pure BW
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it's amazing flash is back and playing again but i think it's just as nice that we have you still active and sharing all of this with everyone, thanks for doing these man, they're a highlight of my mornings
@outkast978
17 күн бұрын
for real. the brood war English scene is lucky to have someone as knowledgeable and passionate about the game as artosis is.
20 day flash streak
@anonymousaustralianhistory2081
17 күн бұрын
You're so right, it's far too little.
@alucard449
17 күн бұрын
Love it
@41italia
17 күн бұрын
are you a terran player?
@TC_WarDoc
17 күн бұрын
Keep it coming my man
@davidorawe3931
17 күн бұрын
Just a flash in the pan
I love the fact that someone, unsuspecting, will hit artosis stream after getting hooked with all these flash games.
@eriks2962
17 күн бұрын
And then, their life will never be the same!
@ssf4evo
17 күн бұрын
rip to that person's ears
@ocircles738
16 күн бұрын
CIMA
@s13shaka
16 күн бұрын
You sound gay af
@1DeadSpirit
14 күн бұрын
🐥🐥🐥🐥🐥🐥🐥🐥
Artosis I start my morning with your Cast. These Flash games have been awesome, keep-up the good work!
I don't know about you guys, but I am getting chills right now 😂😂😂
@pointlessmanatee
16 күн бұрын
NERD CHILLS TASTELESS
Love it when artosis flashes us
Good discussion on the cutting edge of greed. Obviously Flash knows what the current meta is, he's banking on surviving the first big push.
@TheSuperappelflap
17 күн бұрын
It seems like he wants to figure out for himself to find a better way to play in the current meta instead of just copying the meta Terran builds. And that is something to be respected.
@antaresblazewar9083
17 күн бұрын
@@TheSuperappelflap it looks to me that he really likes to have the upgrade adventage. and he is trying to push the limits of that build to make it work.
@EebstertheGreat
17 күн бұрын
I didn't really understand how early academy can be greedy, though. Normally, a "greedy" play tries to get a lot of resources (extra workers or bases) or sometimes high tech early at the expense of army size or base defense. To me, a greedy play can be punished with some sort of early attack or harass, while an overly cautious play can only be punished by expanding. But early academy is sort of the opposite: getting early base defense at the expense of early resources. You can punish a _late_ academy with DTs, but you can't really punish an early academy, except by getting incrementally more resources.
@CanariasCanariass
17 күн бұрын
@@EebstertheGreat I think an academy is greedier than ebay + turrets? Did he mean that?
Arty. Thank you. You are so good at explaining the terrain side of the matchup. I watched flash games on another channel and their play by play was fine but they do not have the depth of knowledge or ability to explain it like you do. You should always cast terran games. You know so much about this matchup. Cheers
Thanks for your casts, my understanding of the game improved a lot over the last months. SC1 was the first game that I bought (was eight years old) and though I haven't played it myself for a long time, I now enjoy watching casts now more than ever. PS: again, the eight carrier win condition hits.
Beep beep, additional Flash videos required
You had me at "Bisu" and if you cast 7 Bisu vs Flash I will literally lose my shit! ❤
I miss the Flash-Bisu stream, where Flash just sit behind Bisu and making joke unintentionally
@abalayn22
17 күн бұрын
"Now I learned: Hydra - good unit".
I've been devouring all of these pro ladder casts. Thanks for putting in all the work to bring us these great games! Looking forward to the next ones!
Artosis, your consistency and diligence give me chills. Appreciate it!!
Yoooooo 7 more games aren’t enough! Keep um coming!😊
You cast beautifully, like sun tzu
Let's gooooooo, nah but seriously these games are awesome. I love how you can really see Flash's thought process throughout the games, almost every action he takes has a rationale behind it. Really informative games.
@susugam3004
17 күн бұрын
as opposed to all the other top level pros who spin a wheel of fortune to decide their every move, with zero rationale whatsoever. only flash is capable of planning things. what a god.
Great point about the unique opportunity of watching Flash re-adjust to the game. Will be excited once things balance out again and we watch other players (I loved the Flash interregnum for that reason!), but still such a treat to deep dive on one player. Hope you feel better soon!
Thanks for casting, Arty
Welcome back to Flashosis
As always, thank you, Artosis! I hope your voice gets better soon!
Artosis, I sincerely hope you are going to keep these flash games continually running. I'm way too invested and way too far into the rabbit hole to stop any time soon. Kind regards from an old xds fan
I like when you run game series. It's interesting to see the development between two players
I’ve noticed a principle in broodwar that the weaker race cannot allow the stronger race snowball out of control in macro otherwise they just lose. Zerg wins in ZvP if Protoss leaves Zerg unchecked. Zerg greed goes further than Protoss greed. Same here with Protoss vs Terran. Protoss greed will always go further than Terran greed and Protoss can trade even with Terran and as long as they trade army for siege tanks or high quality units Protoss will rebuild army easier and faster. Same with Zerg if Protoss loses their high quality units and trades even with Zerg, Zerg is ahead.
@ollaitsrealgood
17 күн бұрын
You're backwards. Protoss win in all matches if literally any race lets them go unchecked. Also your statement is kind of a tautology because this is true in literally any situation. And not just on Starcraft. Imagine playing Undead and just letting your Human or Night Elf opponents play completely unmolested.
@TheSuperappelflap
17 күн бұрын
@@ollaitsrealgood Well, Undead if left unchecked and free to expand is the strongest race in wc3. Human and Night Elf need a second base to really get going. Orc can only snowball if their heroes get high level. But Undead has good units, although expensive, and amazing heroes. With a strong economy they snowball the hardest. The only thing they dont have is strong midgame units, past where crypt fiends are effective, and super late game air. Frost Wyrms just cost too much supply vs stuff like the Human hawks that can disable enemies and web from the Orc.
ArtosisCastsFlash, best channel ever!
Too many chills a day bring a raspy voice the next day!
I really like Artosis showing us the only two races in Starcraft.
7 games, Basil! *Squeegees glasses
Another day, another Flash game(s). And I'm all for it!
Keep em coming boyo!
I remember Flash VS Movie in the OSL Finale where Flash buildes wall after wall of supply depos.
Please keep the flash train comming! Lovely videos as always Artosis and wish you the best with your sore throat! :) Could you maybe up the video resolution though if not too much trouble? HD looks a little blurry. :S (youtube has low bitrate even with premium, 2K res maybe? 🤞)
idk if that map explanation was for me, but thank you
Artosis… Why wasn’t Flash targeting carriers directly, instead of fighting interceptors? Also… Would it have been a tough transition to add ghosts + lockdown? Lock half of fleet, get EMP off, and direct target carriers with goliaths? Forgive my ignorance, I’m just a spectator and haven’t played BW in 15 years. Please keep up the Flash casts! Thank you.
I'm a Protoss player and I dont know how I'll live without daily Artosis Flash. THANKS SO MUCH for this content Arty.
Welcome back to flashcasts
Keep em coming. I'm having more fun watching the progression of flash than watching any sc2 content.
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A new 7 game series and it's Flash v Bisu? This is good news.
MORE FLASH LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. DONT EVER STOP
Flash keeping making those adjustments. 1st game it looks like it just needed a better fortress, either with more vultures or mines or some buildings (supply depots for ex).
Babe wake up, @ArtosisCasts is posting a Flash vs Bisu series!
i really like the way flash is playing that second game, i think he is going to figure it out sooner rather than later i personally think that something terran players should start doing is to move a group of vultures ahead of the army and start picking off zealots
OMG, bring me a blanket!!! I am getting CHILLS right now!!
Do Protoss build pylon walls like at 17:30 very often? Is that to help defend against Vulture harass? Do they build it in PvP or PvZ, as well?
It's interesting to me seeing how much of a proponent he is for Goliaths
"Welcome back to Flashback Casts, where we cast Flash back to back."
Yes!!!!! I love series!
You’ve mentioned upgrade Terran and macro Terran a few times in your casts and I was wondering if there are other styles/builds.
am i correct in saying that the lesson here is to be active with scouting vultures during an active, known carrier switch, to hunt for ht's?
wow what a high quality game 2!
My issue is dealing with carriers. Seems ever toss goes carriers. I can be smashing them and carriers always happens. How does terren players deal with this? Just mass glitches? A group of clocked wraths?
Hey artosis, I noticed that you do analysis of games at the start of the next game. Is it possible you do the analysis at the end of a game, thus the start of the next you can explain openers/reactions?
The big question in my mind, is why not to go simultaneously to ghosts with locks and Goliaths? You already cut his mining base, just kill what’s coming in carriers, and you still can win. But it seems he had no interest in fighting and ggs…. (Sound of scratching my head)
Hi, what maps is this, i want to download it. Thanks
Actually, this has already happened. Lu Xiaojun, one of the best weightlifters of all time basically started from scratch after not training at all for the longest time and video'd the whole thing. He got caught by a doping test before the championships tho
Get well soon bro
You know, those supply depots just remind me of like, the early days with BoxeR like, blocking off ramps that wern't his or locking units into his base and stuff. That's the kinda meme shit that got me in in the first place.
Flash just practicing different strategies and prepare for ASL to own everyone.
Dumb question: Last time I played SC1 every Terran blocked and lifted off the barracks later. Why isnt this a thing at high level in sc1?
For the 1st game did Flash mean to delay vulture mines and speed by so much? He never started speed and died before mines finished.
ladder game looking like a grand finals wow
carriers are absolutely nuts.
Arotosis showing us that you might be God, you still can't beat gateway man, invisible man, a-move big ship. LOL
So I’ve been critical of Flash since he’s come back…. but I kinda think he’s playing possum. He’s playing bad on purpose, just to test shit out. However…. I used to be much better than I am now and as I get older I suck more. So is this really Flash sucking or is this Flash doing mind games? I find it hard to believe that Flash “devolved” to not being able to target with his tanks. He’s intentionally dying in my opinion…, Or he’s using strats he knows are bad but he’s just working it out.
Yes! Let’s go!
Flash casts Saturday!
Are wraiths and valkyries not any good against carriers? Particularly valkyries, use the splash to kill all the interceptors.
damn GGz
bisu de3finitely plays less greedy than some of the other protoss but it just felt like he had control of the whole game, even when attacking poorly trading 50 supplies for 10
God damn this channel has been a goldmine recently
I wonder if Arty with a meta build could win against Flash trying to find himself
Let's Flashing gooooooo
Another Flash game - who'd have thought?! 😅
Game 2 was awesome
Carrier for the win!
I wonder how playing in the Evo mod would affect high level playb
Second game that's ridiculous man, how does Bisu win
Please more flash!
One silly question. Do Flash and other pro/semi pro find themselves in a lobby and arrange matches, or do they simply queue? I ask because queueing at high level can still produce shitty pairings with hackers, cheesers and what not. I would hope there is a lobby (like the CPL discord) and they arrange matches there.
I can't help but wonder if this could be a rare case where one of the more extreme ways to combat carriers could be viable. Such as lockdown and nukes or cloaked wraiths and killing obs. It seems Flash was in a winning position when he scanned the carriers at 32:25, with the carriers being the only way for Bisu to comeback. Yet as it plays out, goliaths only seems an inevitable loss in this situation.
@TheSuperappelflap
17 күн бұрын
The problem is that carriers are a tier 3 massive investment for protoss and terran players lose to it because they dont get their own high tech out fast enough. Battlecruisers with yamato destroy carriers and they are equal tech compared to protoss carriers with the interceptor upgrade.
@pandabearguy1
17 күн бұрын
You think theres time to to get ghosts with upgrades and nukes agsinst 4 stargate carrier with 4 carriers already out and 8 out a minute later
@SpiderWaffle
17 күн бұрын
@@pandabearguy1 Well let's check. Covert ops and lock down take 25 and 63, ghost 31.5, they start with 50 energy need 100 for lockdown. Maybe around 30 minutes when Flash was winning he could have made a prophylactic covert ops for just 50/50 resources. a round of carriers takes 88 and 104 to make all 8 interceptors. Nuke silo and nuke only take 50 and 63.
@pandabearguy1
17 күн бұрын
@@SpiderWaffle Lots of if's. I'm not saying its impossible, but I'm not a pro either. I'm just a game theory expert, from MIT. Ghosts die way to easily as well. Cloaked wraiths seem to be a good choice if you see the carrier switch before any carriers are out.
@SpiderWaffle
17 күн бұрын
@@pandabearguy1 ya I don't know what' viable or best necessarily. I do think some sort of precautionary step should be made by T when they're up significantly enough late in a game and realistically only one thing could beat them. More ports is a big investment compared to covert ops + maybe a couple defensive barracks, which T already like to made more than one of for walls sometimes. But ya, the wraiths have been shown to be more practical than lockdown. Mixing in some Goliaths is also an option, or Valks. Maybe in a large numbers of interceptors and goliaths, valks do well to help kill more interceptors. A control tower, and some goliaths isn't that much cost.
37:25 What would that matter? They're a hovering unit; mines shouldn't be triggered.
@dj_koen1265
7 күн бұрын
no they are not hovering
@JackVermicelli
7 күн бұрын
Since when?
Can you get away with cc first against these early nexus builds?
Mid spoiler but the late game strategy employed by the winner in the second game never seems to fail from what I’ve seen, even when behind
Ah my daily window into the Broodwar people by the anthropologist himself. What will Flash have learned? How will Bisu react? How does it differ to what these people thought the optimal strategy was one year ago? How will it be in a year?
The Девалт games are textbook material, seriously.
Artosis your not allowed to get sick. Sorry, so your gonna have to let that cold know, that your off limits.
4 HT for 2 vultures is a meme worthy trade. Pretty exciting second game, until the winner got the imba unit out.
Flash ftw ty arty, crank out the commentary baby ❤❤
Do you think Bisu sending those 4 Templar to die into that group of vultures was intentional to mislead Flash? Makes Flash think Bisu supply is tied up on making new Templar etc instead of recognizing the carrier push ealeier
Should have gone lockdown. He already had the science facility and 1 barracks, so half the infrastructure was already there. Carriers abuse hit and run tactics so lockdown is basically an insta-kill against them as long as you have enough gols to stand and fight. Imagine sending a single ghost with defense matrix and full energy against the golden armada and seeing them run away as hard as bio runs from a defiler with plague XD.
@lavq7000
17 күн бұрын
Yeah I also agree that ghosts with lockdown are a good solution vs Carriers. Especially considering that Flash had a decent ground army and Science Vessels out for the defense matrix. It is just one of those things that Terran players have not been able to make work. I feel that eventually they will make a breakthrough like what happened with Zerg Queens vs Mech
@dj_koen1265
7 күн бұрын
lockdown has only 8 range which makes it really awkward vs carriers
Making carriers is a good skill toi have
Hey Artosis, Thank you for keeping me entertained and giving me a moment of relaxation as I'm currently trying to build a political party on "the Map" called Sweden. We are a terrain race, with the spirit of Apes and hope to build a horde and go on the offensive like the Zerg. Thanks again, I hope our Party (The Global Party) might be of some service in the future to you and your subscribes. Just know you are to great help at least for me, if not other members of the party to. Kind regards, Your friend ("Kamrat" in swedish) Karl Mitra Samarasinghe The Global Party
I think Flash doesnt use mines at main base, because perfect protoss with a shuttle takes 0 damage from mines. To reword it mines are gamechanging against lesser players, but unreliable vs Snow or other top ones.
You should drop 2 SC casts a day
Flash is having a lot of trouble with the modern protoss. Motive destroyed him.
Use a cough button mate. Radio stations invented them decades ago.
Uploaded at 9:06?
3 minutes in.... Clicks on cyber core, doesn't see it spinning, still doesn't realize bisu cancelled range for a faster nexus
hey Arty. I think you need to make a live stream casting one of these days. 24 hours, marathon, only Flash, all day, non stop, just Flash, pure BW