Brilliant my first go and well chuffed I’m 71 next month and learnt something new thank you take care

Gorgeous! Thanks for sharing.

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

3 жыл бұрын

Of course!

Gorgeous!

So beautiful

So smart, to drag the radial lines toward the point, rather than toward the edge.

Gorgeous

Cool!

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

2 жыл бұрын

It certainly is a cool process, I love it!

I love the colours of heated copper but I hate what sealants do to them, hence I either leave them unsealed and warn potential buyers(and advise them what they can use if they wish to seal and that it will kill some of the colour) , or keep heat treated pieces for myself.

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

2 жыл бұрын

Totally understand how frustrating it is for finished pieces to not contain the same amount of color as you intended…I’ve been sealing and informing customers of the before and after-that the sealant acts as a UV filter like glass-so their pieces may be a little less blue.

@lourias

2 жыл бұрын

Are you saying that spray painting copper with a clear-coat or even using clear nail polish will removed, or at least fade, a colored patina on copper?

@jacksonmcready3238

2 жыл бұрын

@@desertmoonshinejewelry2020 Maybe try sealing it with carnauba wax by lightly heating the piece up and applying the wax layer? I'm not sure if it will work here with copper, but i've seen this method used to seal damascus steel art pieces and etched blades so that the colour and contrast remain. Maybe worth a shot?

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

2 жыл бұрын

@@lourias any sealant seems to dull some of the blues a bit -it’s a widespread struggle for flame painters trying to find a way to preserve the brightness of their copper’s colors.

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacksonmcready3238 worth a try but I have a feeling heating it will alter the colors that have just been oxidized onto the piece or buffing the wax in any way may mess with the layer of oxidization. Someone also suggested nano ceramic plating so I’m researching that too. Thank you for your input!

Very cool! Can you share where I can get the crushed firebrick and blow? I'm just a beginner and hobbyist but this looks so fun

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

Жыл бұрын

Hi! The pumice pan and acetylene torch tip and hose are from Rio grande Jewelry Supply.

It reminded me of a butterfly wing - lovely. What do you coat it with to seal 🦆💕

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Pam, I ended up coating it in two layers of Rustoleum spray sealant and it kept most of its color. It does lose some color with the sealant but not all of it.

Love pattern and colors! Do you have to specifically use acetylene torch or any torch will do?

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

2 жыл бұрын

As far as I know, many flame painters use oxy/propane because it burns cleaner, but acetylene is what I have available to me at the moment. You’d want to avoid soot buildup.

@alchemykitchen777

2 жыл бұрын

any torch will do, size of flame matters though for how small you want detail.

@edienorris9268

Жыл бұрын

Mine keeps turning grey. What I’m I doing wrong. Got 2 different torches. I’m messing up all my cooper 😭

Beautiful colours and design. I have not tried this type of jewellery making yet - what is that black circular thing you hover over your work - would it be something like a cooler?

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

5 ай бұрын

It’s a fume extractor-I didn’t have a fan at the time so I was using the fume extractor to help cool my metal so the temperature would land on the color I hoped for.

Holy cow! thats super cool, how do you pinpoint what the color's going to be? is it based off temp?

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, copper goes through a spectrum as it reaches various degrees. So I aim to heat it to a point just before the color I’m looking for so the copper temp “arrives” at that color if that makes any sense.

@akkad7514

2 жыл бұрын

@@desertmoonshinejewelry2020 Interesting... im curious, is it possible for electroplated copper to be flame painted?

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

2 жыл бұрын

@@akkad7514 that’s a very good question. I would imagine that it would heat differently depending on the metal type beneath the electroplating, or would damage any organic material beneath the copper. Doesn’t hurt to do some research though!

So the hose on top is to haul out fumes or to cool it of quicker? If you don’t coat it with something will it lose its color?

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

2 жыл бұрын

I’m using the hose for both actually since I don’t have a little desk top fan yet. And you are correct, it will continue to oxidize unless it is sealed.

Hi sir, is it possible to get such preety patterns in more solid copper pieces? all i see are thin copper sheets being decorated in this flame techniques, i wanna know if its possible to do it in some copper flashlight bodies i have. I have access to an oxi-acetilene torch but not sure if it would work on more solid pieces

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

Жыл бұрын

Sorry for the late reply-I’ve been using 18 gauge copper and that seems to get some good results. I haven’t tried oxy acetylene setups and wonder if the flame would be too hot in places for the copper to be heated gradually but it’s worth a try. A lot of people use thin copper because it’s faster and has less weight for wall hangings and earrings.

that is so cool! May i ask you how to keep the color after?

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

2 жыл бұрын

The metal needs to be either sprayed or dipped with a sealant in order to keep the colored oxidization intact.

Beautiful color! What kind of torch is that?

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

2 жыл бұрын

Hi! For this one, I just used an acetylene torch with a Smith torch tip #1 to do the initial oxidization, and then a smaller size #00 for the drawing and heat patina coloring.

Are these color changes permanent or do they wear off over time? Do you need to throw a clear coat over the top to stop oxidation and color change? I'm asking because I think I might want to use this technique to make a watch dial for a watch I have.

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

5 ай бұрын

The layer of oxidization will stay for a while if left untouched and not exposed to UV light but it’s more practical to seal it. The sealant will block some of the UV light that enhances blues though so the colors will change a bit with the clear coat on top-just be aware

that's so neat! Whats the black tube you'er holding on top of it? is it cooling the copper?

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! And yes, it’s a fume extractor since I didn’t have a fan. It definitely helps to have something you can cool the copper with when it reaches the temp you are hoping for.

@1bigapp

3 жыл бұрын

@@desertmoonshinejewelry2020 so it works as exhaust, ain't it? 😀 Tia! You make such awesome things!

Though this was unusual!!!

Hola,ésto es sobre cerámica? Y los gases del soplete que son? Gracias x la información

@dedge8425

Жыл бұрын

Hola. No es sobre cerámica, solamente cobre, y los gases son oxígeno y acetileno.

BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!! Do you seal the piece to keep it's color? IF so, what do you use?

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I do seal it afterward. I’ve used Rustoleum gloss and Colorloc but am going to try UV Resin next to see what works best.

@keelygreen6455

Жыл бұрын

Sweet, thanks so much. Seems to be the thing to do now. Good luck! I am going to try that myself!

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

Жыл бұрын

@@keelygreen6455 Good luck to you too!

@yvonnerodney519

Жыл бұрын

I use Pretotecta Clear

@iGuide_net

Жыл бұрын

​@@desertmoonshinejewelry2020 uv resin for sure

do you have any method on brass or would this apply the same on brass?

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

Жыл бұрын

I’ve tried but brass has less copper content and just doesn’t get the same oxidization colors that 100% copper can get.

Can you coat it with something to protect?

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Padre! Yes, it's important to use a spray seal or lacquer to preserve this moment in time of the oxidization before the heat patina is rubbed off or just fades from oxidization over time. It's important to note that a sealant will alter the colors due to light interference, but you can still retain a lot of the color and contrast.

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@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

5 ай бұрын

This video doesn’t have any narration, just a short visual demonstration of the process.

Will this work on thicker copper,?

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

Жыл бұрын

Depends on what you mean by thicker copper? As long as you can bring the temperature up successfully you should technically be able to do it I think. This was 18 gauge copper and I’ve done bigger 16 gauge copper pieces using an acetylene torch too. There are other flame artists that use oxy/acetylene setups on much larger pieces of copper as well but I’m unsure of the thickness they may have been using. kzread.infovgLKuNepScY?feature=share

Does this work on copper powder too?

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a really great question Beth! I don’t personally have experience working with Copper Powder so I couldn’t tell you. All copper will have a similar reaction to heat and oxidization though.

Just had to have go

@desertmoonshinejewelry2020

2 жыл бұрын

How’d it go?!